{"href":"http://player.captivate.fm/services/oembed?url=http%3A%2F%2Fplayer.captivate.fm%2Fepisode%2F82aae6fd-1cf7-405e-81d2-425fab9570f0","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Captivate.FM","provider_url":"https://www.captivate.fm","width":600,"height":200,"type":"rich","html":"","title":"Ep 075: De-Sizing the Church (pt 7) How To Use Your God-given Platform Well, with Daniel Darling","description":"Fame and celebrity have many downsides. But Daniel Darling brings a balanced approach to this subject by reminding us that fame is also what allows a good message to get through the clutter.\nIn this episode, Karl talks with Dan about a Twitter thread Dan wrote expressing appreciation for the fame of Tim Keller.\nIt was Tim Keller's platform and the celebrity status it gave him that allowed Dan and so many others to be introduced to Keller\u2019s teachings. Dan\u2019s perspective on the value of having a platform is an important balance to our conversations about the dangers of celebrity.\nDan Darling is the director of The Land Center, a columnist for WORLD and an opinion contributor for USA Today.\n\nLinks:\n\nDaniel Darling Tweet from May 20, 2023\n\nDanielDarling.com\n\nDaniel Darling's newsletter\n\nDaniel Darling books\n\n\nKarl's new book, De-sizing the Church: How Church Growth Became a Science, Then an Obsession, and What's Next, is now available wherever you buy books, either electronically or in print. If you\u2019ve read the book and you\u2019d like Karl to speak to your group about the issues he raises in it, reach out at KarlVaters.com/Contact Me.\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/79c417c7-8c07-4b85-b55e-fac6967f3ce9/a04c8e7d51e52cd57699e29f050757f2.png"}