{"href":"http://player.captivate.fm/services/oembed?url=http%3A%2F%2Fplayer.captivate.fm%2Fepisode%2F96a7a468-fcae-4e5b-aeb7-963ba0ba953f","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Captivate.FM","provider_url":"https://www.captivate.fm","width":600,"height":200,"type":"rich","html":"<iframe style=\"width: 100%; height: 200px;\" title=\"Interview | Waking Up to Our Shadow with Beatrice Chestnut\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allow=\"clipboard-write\" seamless src=\"http://player.captivate.fm/episode/96a7a468-fcae-4e5b-aeb7-963ba0ba953f\"></iframe>","title":"Interview | Waking Up to Our Shadow with Beatrice Chestnut","description":"<p class=\"p1\">In this week\u2019s episode, we have the privilege of talking with the one and only Beatrice Chestnut. Beatrice joined us to talk about her new book with Uranio Paes, The Enneagram Guide to Waking Up. But, the conversation doesn\u2019t stop there. We get to know Beatrice beyond her enneagram teaching and writing, and the result was a fun and meaningful conversation.\u00a0</p>\n<p class=\"p1\">6:10 - Beatrice\u2019s thoughts on the enneagram and our stories</p>\n<p class=\"p1\">7:40 - Getting to know Beatrice [hobbies, interests, TV shows]\u00a0</p>\n<p class=\"p1\">14:10 - The inspiration behind her new book</p>\n<p class=\"p1\">17:45 - Her experience co writing with Uranio Paes</p>\n<p class=\"p1\">19:30 - How her perspectives shifted since she wrote her earlier books</p>\n<p class=\"p1\">21:00 - How to engage the book</p>\n<p class=\"p1\">22:10 - \u201cFalling asleep\u201d and \u201cwaking up\u201d</p>\n<p class=\"p1\">25:15 - How do we know we\u2019re awake?</p>\n<p class=\"p1\">28:20 - The path before each type</p>\n<p class=\"p1\">33:00 - How Beatrice approaching coaching with the enneagram</p>\n<p class=\"p1\">38:00 - The Enneagram and Dante\u2019s Divine Comedy as a map of process</p>\n<p class=\"p1\">40:00 - The dangers of over-pathologizing Type 4s</p>\n<p class=\"p1\">43:00 - Beatrice\u2019s approach to the subtypes</p>\n<p class=\"p1\">53:00 - The shadows of the subtypes</p>\n<p class=\"p1\">59:05 - Beatrice talks about the shadows of our subtypes [Abram: SX9 // Creek: SP4 // Drew: SP3]</p>\n<p class=\"p1\">1:11:35 - How to follow Beatrice\u2019s work</p>\n<p class=\"p3\">\u00a0Follow Beatrice: <a href='http://cpenneagram.com'>cpenneagram.com</a> // <a href='http://beatricechestnut.com'>beatricechestnut.com</a>\u00a0</p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><a href='https://www.amazon.com/Enneagram-Guide-Waking-Up-Discover/dp/164297031X/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=enneagram+guide+to+waking+up&qid=1641421060&sprefix=enneagram+guid%2Caps%2C153&sr=8-1'>The Enneagram Guide to Waking Up</a></p>\n<p class=\"p1\">\u2014</p>\n<p class=\"p1\">Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: \u201cDiscovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.\u201d</p>\n<p class=\"p1\">\u2014</p>\n<p class=\"p1\">Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser</p>\n<p class=\"p1\">Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore</p>\n<ul class=\"ul1\"><li class=\"li1\">Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram</li>\n<li class=\"li1\">Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram</li>\n<li class=\"li1\">Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic</li>\n<li class=\"li1\">Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram</li>\n</ul>\n","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/be7b8087-58a2-485f-9a69-349585d6466c/1.jpg"}