{"href":"http://player.captivate.fm/services/oembed?url=http%3A%2F%2Fplayer.captivate.fm%2Fepisode%2Facee65b4-5bc2-48a2-ab3e-d0776eb59fa5","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Captivate.FM","provider_url":"https://www.captivate.fm","width":600,"height":200,"type":"rich","html":"","title":"Why We Talk About Corruption","description":"Whenever we hear the word corruption, we always think that it\u2019s others who are corrupt; it\u2019s never the people we support, and it\u2019s certainly never us. In this episode of Big World, SIS professor Malini Ranganathan and AU\u2019s College of Arts and Sciences professor David Pike join us to talk about corruption, the stories we tell about it, and the narratives to which we cling.\n\nProfessors Ranganathan and Pike discuss the inspiration behind their recent book, \u201cCorruption Plots,\u201d and explain why the story is so important now (2:01). Ranganathan walks us through defining what exactly \u201ccorruption talk\u201d is and how it differs from actual corruption (4:39). Pike describes the meaning behind the book\u2019s title and explains the ways in which the multiple connotations of the word \u201cplots\u201d make up different aspects of the co-authors\u2019 research expertise (6:32).\n\nSince the book itself is comprised of a multitude of stories, Ranganathan (8:40) and Pike (11:25) give their favorite anecdote and memory from their on-the-ground research. Pulling from his own discipline, what does Pike think fiction can teach us that real-life fieldwork cannot (13:29)? Ranganathan also describes what Operation Clean the Nation was and how understanding it can teach us about corruption narratives (18:35). \n\nWhy do social difference and inequality matter in the study of corruption (21:49)? And how does corruption apply to the middle class (25:12)? What is the relationship between corruption and capitalism, and are there economic systems that do a better job of preventing systemic corruption (27:48)?\n\nDuring our \u201cTake Five\u201d segment, Professors Ranganathan and Pike share the five things they would tell anti-corruption agencies (15:14).","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/635fde34-f942-4e4a-970d-82c4b24eda81/artworks-0ykqo6zva75nzy2o-52trbg-t3000x3000.jpg"}