{"href":"http://player.captivate.fm/services/oembed?url=http%3A%2F%2Fplayer.captivate.fm%2Fepisode%2Ff3187a88-c09b-4597-9ca2-5480d47b5500","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Captivate.FM","provider_url":"https://www.captivate.fm","width":600,"height":200,"type":"rich","html":"","title":"Busting Vegan Myths with Conscious Muscle","description":"Today on The Karen Kenney Show, we\u2019re talking to my first ever podcast guest (EP04), Jordan Dranes or as some of you may know him as, \u201cConscious Muscle\u201d. \n\nWhen I first saw Jordan online over 7 years ago, I was so impressed with him being a vegan bodybuilder, an animal activist, a dad, the founder of Conscious Muscle: Online Fitness & Nutrition Coaching, co-founder of a 100% Vegan Supplement Company and a successful entrepreneur with a huge following - who uses his platform to not only help animals, but to help humans, too. \n\nThe work he does and what he stands for inspired me and created so much curiosity, I just had to reach out to him!\n\nJump ahead to now, I wanted help creating a Kick-Ass strength and conditioning program that would also include all of my nutrients and macros (from a vegan standpoint) and I knew Jordan was the ONE to call! \n\nIn this conversation, Jordan and I are telling stories, talking shop and busting some vegan myths, bro-science and misinformation about vegans, being vegan, going vegan and how it\u2019s absolutely possible to build muscle, get strong and be healthy - without the cholesterol, carcinogens and cruelty to animals from eating them!\n\nJordan\u2019s motto is, \u201cWe kill workouts, not animals!\u201d and in today\u2019s episode we dive deep into what it means truly to be a heart-centered vegan. I\u2019ve been vegan for 20+ years and Jordan went vegan 9 years ago - so we also share what inspired us to start our own journeys and to make that change.\n\nSo, whether you\u2019re already living a vegan lifestyle, looking for some new information or are just starting out on your path of wanting to make the switch, Jordan is my super-duper smarty pants friend, trainer and coach, who can provide you with the right info, inspire your journey forward and answer the usual kinds of questions that come up so often; like, \u201cHow do you get your protein?\u201d\n\nThis is a really down to earth, raw, honest, passionate, in-the-moment conversation between two friends, peers, colleagues and also clients of one another! We go with the flow in this episode and we also hone in on the points and places where our lives intersect. \n\nSo buckle up for safety (click, click) and most of all, I hope you enjoy this wicked fun conversation between me and one of my favorite people on the planet, Jordan Dranes of Conscious Muscle and CM Supplements.\n\n\n\n[JUST A HEADS UP:] This episode contains some sensitive topics where Jordan and I share some deeply personal stories, that include graphic details of violence and adult language.","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/22c50850-e75c-4734-b25e-87faf90de9ff/2026-Podcast-Artwork-512KB.jpg"}