{"href":"http://player.captivate.fm/services/oembed?url=http%3A%2F%2Fplayer.captivate.fm%2Fepisode%2Ff7d74b0b-1384-43d9-aa56-6dbea3de54d0","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Captivate.FM","provider_url":"https://www.captivate.fm","width":600,"height":200,"type":"rich","html":"<iframe style=\"width: 100%; height: 200px;\" title=\"13: Games People Play, with Daveed Gartenstein-Ross and Amal Ali\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allow=\"clipboard-write\" seamless src=\"http://player.captivate.fm/episode/f7d74b0b-1384-43d9-aa56-6dbea3de54d0\"></iframe>","title":"13: Games People Play, with Daveed Gartenstein-Ross and Amal Ali","description":"<p>Immersive gaming exercises offer a powerful tool for understanding complex geopolitical scenarios and developing strategic empathy. They provide insights that traditional analysis often misses. By inhabiting different perspectives and grappling with real-world constraints, participants gain a deeper appreciation for the multifaceted nature of global challenges and decision-making processes.&nbsp;</p><br><p>In this episode of Crosstabs, Farrah talks to Daveed Gartenstein-Ross and Amal Ali of Valens Games about their innovative approach, going beyond wargaming and scenario planning to more immersive strategic experiences. They discuss how their exercises help leaders break free from cognitive biases, explore alternative futures, and gain insight into complex political and social dynamics. We talk about the potential applications of these techniques to the current political situation, offering listeners a fresh perspective on analyzing and preparing for uncertain futures.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><h2>Resources&nbsp;</h2><p><a href=\"https://a.co/d/4w3GyCo\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Influence</em></a> by Robert Cialdini&nbsp;</p><p><a href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-an-open-democratic-convention-would-work/id1548604447?i=1000660890745\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Ezra Klein's episode</a> on an open Democratic convention:&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Sarah Longwell's<a href=\"https://www.thebulwark.com/s/thefocusgroup\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> The Focus Group at The Bulwark</a> </p><p><a href=\"https://valensgames.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Valens Games war games</a> </p><p> </p><h2>Our Guests&nbsp;</h2><p><strong>Daveed Gartenstein-Ross</strong> </p><p>Daveed Gartenstein-Ross is the founder and CEO of Valens Games. He is a practitioner, scholar, and entrepreneur whose career has focused on analyzing complex 21st-century challenges and forging laudable solutions to them. Daveed is also the author or volume editor of over 30 books and monographs, including Enemies Near and Far (Columbia University Press, 2022), which examines ISIS and al-Qaeda\u2019s processes of engaging in organizational learning. He is on the faculty at Carnegie Mellon University and Duke University. </p><p> </p><p><strong>Amal Ali</strong> </p><p>Amal Ali serves as the Senior Vice President of Strategy at Valens Games, where she specializes in engaging with government and public sector clients. Her career spans military service, intelligence work, and strategic consulting. Ali is a military veteran with experience in the U.S. intelligence community, including work at the agency level and supporting Army and joint special operations. Ali's background in intelligence analysis, coupled with her cross-cultural understanding, informs her approach to game design and facilitation at Valens Games. In her role, she focuses on developing immersive exercises that help decision-makers gain new perspectives on complex geopolitical challenges.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h2>Your Host&nbsp;</h2><p>Farrah Bostic is the founder and Head of Research &amp; Strategy at<a href=\"https://www.thedifferenceengine.co/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> The Difference Engine</a>, a strategic insights consultancy. With over 20 years of experience in research and strategy for B2B and B2C companies, Farrah helps business leaders make big decisions. Connect with Farrah on<a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/farrahbostic/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> LinkedIn</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h2>Subscribe to Cross Tabs&nbsp;</h2><p>Don't miss an episode! Subscribe to Cross Tabs on your favorite podcast platform:&nbsp;</p><ul><li><a href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cross-tabs/id1725891109\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href=\"https://open.spotify.com/show/2oH1B657X6ItTcJnFqyFWy\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Spotify</a>&nbsp;</li></ul><br /><hr>","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/883627ce-f00e-4770-a056-3da1fa0dccc2/1704389322147-b8d177a02d4d4125e6b214eba19fac69.jpeg"}