{"href":"http://player.captivate.fm/services/oembed?url=http%3A%2F%2Fplayer.captivate.fm%2Fepisode%2Ff990e0a3-339a-4cbe-9ff3-a93472a53a82","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Captivate.FM","provider_url":"https://www.captivate.fm","width":600,"height":200,"type":"rich","html":"<iframe style=\"width: 100%; height: 200px;\" title=\"Conversation | Grief, Hope, & Kindness with Leslie Hershberger\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allow=\"clipboard-write\" seamless src=\"http://player.captivate.fm/episode/f990e0a3-339a-4cbe-9ff3-a93472a53a82\"></iframe>","title":"Conversation | Grief, Hope, & Kindness with Leslie Hershberger","description":"<p>2020 was a dumpster fire, and we walk into 2021 with great expectations. On this New Year\u2019s Eve, we offer to you a powerful conversation about this threshold from one year to the next with our dear friend Leslie Hershberger. It\u2019s tempting to shake off the dust of this past year and never look back. Maybe there\u2019s another way?\u00a0</p>\n<p>\u00a0</p>\n<ul><li>How do we honor and integrate our pain and loss from this past year? [1:47]</li>\n<li>James Finley: \u201cLove doesn\u2019t save us from suffering. But it does sustain us.\u201d [15:15]</li>\n<li>The threshold from 2020 to 2021 [29:50]</li>\n<li>Hold the thing that is holding you back [31:50]</li>\n<li>How do we look to and dream of the future without being attached to its outcomes? [33:25]</li>\n<li>The difference between wise hope and clinging to an outcome [37:00]</li>\n<li>How kids are natural mystics [47:00]</li>\n<li>Morgan Harper Nichols on giving ourselves grace [50:45]</li>\n<li>How do we continue to hold this tension through this new year? [51:30]</li>\n<li>Wisdom from the Velveteen Rabbit [54:30]</li>\n<li>With intention, live into what matters most in 2021 [56:15]</li>\n<li>Not all contradictions are meant to be resolved. [58:30]</li>\n</ul>\n<p>\u00a0</p>\n<p>Follow Leslie\u2019s work: <a href='https://lesliehershberger.com/'>https://lesliehershberger.com/</a>\u00a0</p>\n<p>\u00a0</p>\n<p>**If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!**</p>\n<p>\u00a0</p>\n<p>\u2014</p>\n<p>Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: \u201cDiscovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.\u201d</p>\n<p>\u2014</p>\n<p>Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser</p>\n<p>Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore</p>\n<p>\u00a0</p>\n<ul><li>Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram</li>\n<li>Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram</li>\n<li>Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic</li>\n<li>Follow Drew: @enneagrammers</li>\n</ul>\n","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/8924702c-a2e4-43ea-bf2d-f8ec18608b30/1.jpg"}