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Episode 252 • 24th July 2026 • True Creeps: True Crime, Ghost Stories, Cryptids, Horrors in History & Spooky Stories • Amanda Mednansky and Lindsey Charlick
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Come creep up with us while we talk about weird dream shit. We've gone down a respectable amount of rabbit holes looking into coma dreams, vivid dreams, and the lives people wake up grieving. Lives that never happened. We're going to touch on the science behind what could be happening too.


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Hello, everyone.

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I'm Amanda.

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And I'm Lindsey.

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And we're True Creeps.

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And we're live tonight.

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Wow.

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It's very spooky.

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Second to figure out the music in in the back.

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Are we ready?

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Okay.

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Can we do it?

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We're ready.

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We can do it.

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Okay.

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Give me one second.

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I'm like, you're in our snubs twice.

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There we go.

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I had our look at comments live because when you guys comment on YouTube, it takes a few seconds to pop up here.

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So Mhmm.

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Anyways, today, we are talking about dreams and weird dream shit as I said earlier.

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That's what I named our outline, like, two months ago when we wrote it.

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So excited.

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So excited.

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Now the idea came for this episode because I was scrolling, as one does, and I stumbled upon a story of a woman who woke up from a coma.

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And in her coma, she had children.

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I wanna say it was, like, seven years' worth of memories.

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And when she woke up, they never existed, and it kinda stayed with me.

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It was like, WandaVision in a way.

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But in anticipation for this episode, we asked a bunch of people about their weird dreams and we got so many responses and so many really cool, crazy dreams that we get to talk about.

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Some we're saving, but some we're gonna talk about tonight.

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So thank you everyone who commented back on our million social media posts because we appreciate it, and we had so much fun watching and reading about them.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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We love a new fresh rabbit hole.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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This has been a rabbit hole for a little while now.

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Mhmm.

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Mhmm.

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I mean, the new dreams.

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Oh, the new and now I wonder if we're gonna have some of these.

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Like, our mind is just gonna be playing them.

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I'm gonna be seeing a plastic Matt Damon, you know?

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We'll get we'll get there though.

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We'll get there.

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Do you have the comments coming still on here?

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I do.

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Yeah.

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They're on this side.

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Okay.

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Making sure.

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Okay.

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Well, first, we're gonna talk about a little bit of background on dreams.

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And for as long as people have been writing anything down, we've been writing down our dreams, and we've called them various things.

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So, like, messages from gods, warnings, visits from the dead, and random noise from a sleeping brain.

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Tonight, we wanna start at the very beginning, though, and not just what a dream is, but why we think about dreams the way that we do.

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And we are going to get into the oldest dreams and nightmares ever recorded, which are pretty freaking old.

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Yeah.

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How science finally started taking dreams seriously, and a whole pile of genuinely wild stuff that all of you have sent to us.

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So, again, thank you.

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Thank you.

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So let's start with the basics.

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What is a dream?

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Per Britannica

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Had you ever thought about that?

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Like, I was like, it's like a it's a thing that happens when you sleep.

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It's a thing that, like, it's going

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your mind being weird is all I think of.

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It's like

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Yeah.

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It's just like a a snoozy good time or a bad time.

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Yeah.

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And brains are weird, and they're just doing weird shit.

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Mhmm.

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So, per Britannica, a dream is a hallucinatory experience that occurs during sleep.

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Some elements of a dream can include the following.

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The content can be illogical and even incoherent, which, like, at the time of your dream, you're like, makes total sense.

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It's fine that it's been two days or that, you know, I can fly.

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Elements of waking life are typically incorporated in the dream, so, like, things that are familiar.

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Dreams can jump around quite a bit and change location suddenly.

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That happens quite a bit.

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Like, you'll be one place, and you're like, oh, now I'm here, and it's fine.

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It's fine.

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And they often can lack continuity where they they just don't make a lot of sense.

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And how do we define a nightmare?

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It's a dream that makes the dreamer feel negative feelings like dread, fear, panic, and they're usually strong enough to wake you up.

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And typically, like, you wake up kind of feeling scared or, like, uneasy.

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I just think it's so interesting that it's, like, part of the essential human experience is dreaming.

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And then we're just, like, dreaming like, nightmares are just equal bad dream.

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That, like, there's dreams, bad dreams, but we have a special name for bad dreams.

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You know?

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Like, that's how that's how no good.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Sorry.

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We've got our little outline.

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Amanda's has hers on her computer, and I'm a I'm a print gal, so mine's in front of me.

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So when we're talking about dreams, we have we truly have been talking about dreams forever, not just Amanda and I, because for us, it's only been five minutes recorded.

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Otherwise, many months.

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But when we're talking about this, like, people talking about dreams, it's older than recorded language.

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But pretty much as soon as people started to write, they started to write about their dreams.

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So starting in the third the late third millennium in Mesopotamia, we find one of the first recorded versions of a dream.

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And it's in a story about a shepherd god named Dumuzi.

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And so, basically, he tells a dream about the story is about this dream of from Dumuzi.

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And he's like, okay.

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He falls asleep, and the dream makes no sense to me.

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Just I'm gonna start with that.

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Right?

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Because Yeah.

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I was like, I understand most of those words, but not in this context.

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And I read it a couple times.

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That is kind yeah.

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I was like, like,

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what am I missing?

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Yeah.

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But then immediately, I'm gonna tell you what everything means, so it'll make sense.

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So Yeah.

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Dimuzi dreams that he sees rushes rising up around him, a single reed shaking its head, and then very tall tea trees looming over him.

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And then, like, his cup is, like, thrown down.

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Okay.

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Dramatic.

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It also, like in my head, I was like, that sounds like you were in a storm, and then you dropped your cup.

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You know?

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Like, it doesn't sound, like, worthy of, like, how old we're like, man, this was a dream from forever ago.

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But whatever.

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Okay.

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You know

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what I think of?

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So Is the cup we talked about in, one of our eBay episodes.

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The, like, pirate mug.

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That's what he sold me in my head.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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So, you know, this is the absolute venue for a haunted doll chat, where we're just scouring the Internet.

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That might that's that has to happen this year.

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I'm excited to share a screen.

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Okay.

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My gosh.

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So Very easy.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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For sure.

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He goes to his sister, and she is the first dream interpreter on record, which, like, what a title.

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I kind of love that for her.

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But so her name is Justina.

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Justina.

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And so she listens to him, and she's like, this is not a good dream.

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And he's like, I already know that because I'm the one that had it.

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I'm telling you about it.

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And she's like, okay.

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She then just kind of, like, rapid fire is like, you saw this, it means this.

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You saw this, it means this.

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So the rushes, he's she said, were bandits rising against him.

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You never want a bandit rising against you.

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No.

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Then the rage shaking its head was his mom.

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Mommy issues even then.

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And she was sad for him, though.

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So not mommy issues.

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She was just like, oof.

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You know?

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Okay.

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Then oh, gosh.

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Headphones falling out.

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The trees are evil men closing in.

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I don't like that.

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I don't like that one bit.

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I don't want I do not want trees to symbolize evil men.

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That's they're too prevalent in dreams.

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So and then she's like, oh, and by the way, all those things that I just said, they're not just, like, evil men, mom shaking her head, bandits.

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They mean you're gonna die.

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He's like,

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of course they do.

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Why not?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And so as things do in stories, he then dies because demons drag him to the underworld.

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So

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Happens.

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Sister was right.

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You know?

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Classic.

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So the version that we can actually see of this is on clay tablets.

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So again, super, super old.

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And it's you know, this is a story about a dream, but it is still we're talking about dreams from an early point.

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Right?

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But the first recorded version of a dream where someone is recounting the dream is from ancient Egypt.

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And it's what I thought was really, really interesting when we were doing our research was the way that they look.

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They saw dreams in ancient Egypt.

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It's not really surprising that they're gonna see them in a very different way than we would in, like, the westernized world.

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But basically, they were like, it's something that happens to you and it's external.

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So it's not that you're having a dream, it's that you saw a dream.

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And we're like it was like, something else is controlling the fact that you have the dream, not you.

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Interesting.

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Okay.

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I like that.

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I I actually kinda I like that.

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My woo woo in me likes that.

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But so around twenty one hundred BCE, a man named Heni wrote a letter to his dead father, which was a practice, like, around that time.

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And it's part of a group of texts called the letters to the dead, where people were writing to their relatives and asking them for help.

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And Henney is writing to his dad to ask for his help.

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Now Henney's problem is is that he's having, honestly, the most bland nightmare I've ever heard in my life.

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Certainly doesn't feel like it's worth writing to the dead for, but, like, who am I?

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So he's like, dad, your old servant is watching me in my dreams.

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Unsettling.

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He's like, he's looking at me too much.

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I don't like it.

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In this letter, Henny, in a not so innocent sounding way, he's like, I am not the cause.

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Like, I'm hitting my desk like this.

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There isn't gonna be audio and shake my camera.

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Like, I am not responsible for your servant getting hurt.

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That was was not I.

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Was the servant's name was Seni, by the way.

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He's like, oh, no.

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It wasn't it wasn't me.

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And he's like, can you please make Seni stop watching me in my sleep?

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And that was the whole point of it.

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He's, like, writing to his dad, be like, can you please make this man stop looking at me in my sleep?

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So I think that if anything, we've got scarier dreams today.

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I think we've got a lot scarier dreams.

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I feel like I don't want people looking at me either, though.

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Like, don't look at me.

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Do you want me to turn your camera off?

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I'm gonna write to someone about it.

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It.

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Yeah.

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She wants to write a strongly worded letter.

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Oh, yeah.

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You're

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weird.

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Also, we are looking at the various chats around, so just Mhmm.

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If we if we don't answer you right away, we are looking.

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It's just we're trying to also not be completely distracted.

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What a time.

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So we said at the beginning, but, like, how did we go from dreams being, like, omens to actual science?

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And people have been reading and interpreting dreams for thousands of years, but dreams were not taken seriously as real science until shockingly recently.

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And as recently as the nineteen eighties, studying dreams was seen as something not quite worthy of serious of serious scientific attention.

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They're like, we have more interesting things to do, but everyone almost everyone dreams or at least, like, remembers some occasionally.

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Right?

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So it is like a, I think, a big deal.

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One of the interesting things that we saw in our comments is that there was one person who commented that they only have nightmares, like, exclusively.

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And I was like and I have actually met some people who have not ever had a dream that they could remember.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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So there are two totally different questions you can ask about dreams.

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One is about dreaming itself, meaning, like, how and why we dream at all, and then the other I lost my thing.

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It happened.

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The other is about the content of the dreams, meaning why you had that specific dream.

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And for as long as time sorry.

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I can't even speak now.

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And for a long time, scientists were much more comfortable with the second question than the first.

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They were like, it doesn't matter how or why.

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That's fine.

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Let's just talk about the meetings.

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But part of the problem is that dream content is almost entirely self reported, which makes it super hard to study because you you're relying on someone remembering things and, like, big pieces of it.

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Right?

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And by the way, that's one of the reasons why hallucinations are also very hard to study because it's, you know, from someone self reported.

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And, Amanda, I am so sorry.

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I am gonna interrupt you because I took it out of our outline, and now I have to say it.

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Is that I'm gonna say it.

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You know, I have I'm unable to not say it.

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When you're thinking about, like, what a dream is and what a hallucination is, they're both sensory independent perceptions.

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So things that you perceive that are not from an external source.

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So, like, you hear something that's a sensory you know what I mean?

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Right.

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But, like, they consider them the same thing.

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Which I found like, I still

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I that that rocks me.

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We talked all about this in our mimics episode.

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Yeah.

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But, like, I I think that it's so interesting that we consider them, like, in the same realm.

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Right.

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Right.

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Now researchers tend to break the history of dream study into four different stages.

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The first is the ancient stage.

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Dreams were divine, supernatural, and full of folklore symbols.

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You figured out what a dream right?

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You figured out what a dream meant by consulting an oracle or a book that gave a fixed meaning of each symbol.

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Now, Lindsey, I have a very important question.

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Yes.

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How do I become an oracle?

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Baby, you just say you're an oracle.

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I am an oracle now.

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The

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world is now.

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I mean, you're, like, now.

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I will say you you might consider learning some divination practices.

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Get a little one here, if you will.

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Or you can just wanna be an oracle

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now.

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Right now.

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Yeah.

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Well, I mean, can you see the future?

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Isn't that what an oracle does?

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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I think you just wanna be a con man.

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I think that's what you want.

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Just kidding.

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Amanda is a totally legit oracle.

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She can Obviously.

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My next shirt's gonna be I am an oracle.

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Oh, I've been I I had a note for, like, what to have on my desk last time.

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Notebook.

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Because Amanda's the angsty minor, and, girls just go to Burkittsville and find the Blair, which is also the list of shirts.

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Shirt

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so bad.

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Yes.

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Someone said, you is the oracle.

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They know it.

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See?

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See?

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Hold on one moment.

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One moment.

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Because we're learning that we can do different things.

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So I'm gonna pin it, and it's gonna show yeah.

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There we we're gonna leave that up.

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There you go.

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It's underneath your name.

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You can from now on, when you put your little name in the chat, you can, which I am gonna put in front of us now that I'm realizing that it's not there.

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You can just put Oracle behind it.

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Why not?

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What am I gonna do?

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You know?

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You wanna be an Oracle too?

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I'm running the Oracle.

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I'll share it.

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Oh, true creep oracles.

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SEO.

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Also, so I'm, like, in every in every realm.

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So I'm also in our TikTok live where, Amane and Mike said she wants to rule the matrix, which I I think you might.

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I think you might wanna rule the matrix.

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Yeah.

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Why not?

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Throw that in there too.

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Ruler of matrix.

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Hers.

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Oracle, ruler of matrix.

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You're gonna have, like, honestly, the coolest LinkedIn, which that makes me old.

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I should honestly make a LinkedIn that says all of this.

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Yeah.

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People would love it.

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Yeah.

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And I'll connect with you with my corporate job, and it'll be great.

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I'll I'll endorse everything you have.

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Perfect.

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Perfect.

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Yes, please.

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I'm gonna need a lot of people to do that for me.

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What was the t shirt you wanted, by the way?

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Because I already forgot.

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I didn't write it down.

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I just talked about it.

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I think I I'm the oracle.

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I'm the oracle.

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I'm the oracle now.

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Nope.

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I'm adding out oracle now.

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One oracle to rule them all, Ben says.

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Well, you know, icon of recognition does equal oracle, so I think that we've got we've got a lot of oracles going around.

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Yeah.

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I'm not seeing all of those comments pop up still, only this one, which this is Oh, oh, my

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bad.

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One second.

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Let's let's do this version.

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Guys, the tech version that I'm getting here.

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What like, how exciting.

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So techy I have I'm like the I'm the producer in this version because I'm running the software, and Amanda can't see everything.

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So I

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am trying what that

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means for real, man.

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Like, so if you ever see me get a far off look, I wanted to mention.

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It's not that I don't like what Amanda's saying or I'm just checking my email.

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It's that I'm, like, ruling the tech world here.

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She's trying to stop me from being the oracle.

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Yes.

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What I am saying is that I am her nemesis, and this is our origin story.

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That's actually we're gonna get rid of our old our old thing, and it's gonna be I am her nemesis.

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This is our our origin story.

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Writing that one down too.

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Becoming the Oracle.

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Anyway, you were trying to re like, talk about what we're gonna talk about today, and I Kool Aid man right on in as I do.

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I think I started it, though, wanting to be the Oracle, so it's okay.

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But I also I was like, oh, we left this first stage.

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I found that really interesting, that we were like, oh, there's other stages.

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And I was like, oh,

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there are.

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I agree a little bit.

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Yeah.

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Batman villains for suresies.

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Might as well be.

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Lindsey once has been, sorry.

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The photo.

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The penguin.

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What'd I do?

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Oh my gosh.

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Okay.

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When I have if I can figure out how to share it on this, I'm gonna give you all honestly, that's I'm gonna give you nightmares at the end of this, and I'm gonna show you the worst photo of me that has ever been taken.

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And, Amanda, by the way, by I mean, I'm gonna show it.

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I mean, I need you to find it because you have the real version.

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I just have a cropped in version of my face.

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So I Okay.

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You don't I'll do it now.

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I'm a look at my phone in a little bit.

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I'll read comments, and I'll be like, we're talking comments while Amanda pulls this video.

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But you are gonna have nightmares, and I can't prepare you enough for it.

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I have not there's not a single person who I've talked to who I'm like, it's a really bad photo, who's like, mhmm.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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They think I'm being, like, self deprecating.

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I'm not.

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It's my favorite photo ever taken.

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As it should be.

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I did have it made into a pillow for Damien.

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Yeah.

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I saw that, and I loved it.

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Alright.

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Let's move on to second stage.

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The big one.

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The second is the psychoanalytic analytic stage, if I can speak.

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This one starts with Freud in 1899, just a few years ago, with the interpretation of dreams.

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Freud said dreams were disguised psychological processes with a hidden deeper meaning.

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The big shift here is that the meaning came from the dreamer's own associations, not from a fixed symbol dictionary.

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I need to make a dictionary of it too, by the way.

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That's the oracle.

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This is usually considered I love

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that for us.

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Like, let's do it.

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Branded

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now.

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Weird.

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This is considered the first scientific stage of dream research.

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Okay.

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What I love is that so as part of my, like, bachelor's, I had to take this class where we read all the the original psychology, like, writings.

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And so I got I had I got the the pleasure of reading Freud shit.

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And, like, he was just like, it's probably sex.

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Is there's probably like, there's some sexual thing.

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So he's like, no.

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We attribute it.

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Well, this is science, and we are attributing it to their own experience.

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But, like, he's like, it's probably sex.

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Like, everything kind of just, like, ends up going back to the same things, I feel like.

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So I'm like, it just feels like you've rebranded it.

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It doesn't feel like you really improved upon anything.

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Don't worry.

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I'll do better.

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You were like, we're gonna narrow.

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Amanda's gonna do better.

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Perfect.

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Oh, I'm gonna I'm so sorry.

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I am gonna write at the bottom of her thing.

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I'm gonna say true creeps, dream dictionary, better than Freud.

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That's gonna be the top of it.

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Yeah.

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I wrote better better than Freud down.

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I think it's essential.

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Oh my gosh.

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The true creeps oracle deck?

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Yes.

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Hell yes.

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Hell yes.

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Oh, okay.

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Now someone said she is the oracle, and and you, the creator of the matrix.

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I do like that.

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I do like that.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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Does that mean that I'm just telling her what's gonna happen?

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We're in cahoots.

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We are in cahoots.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So, again, we said, well, there's four stages.

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So the third is the psychophysiological stage.

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And this is for the first time where we're like, hey, how do we dream?

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Like, what's going on in our brains or our bodies in some way to be able to understand what is going on here.

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Right?

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And it kicks off in 1953 when research when researchers discover REM sleep.

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Wild.

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Right?

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Like, that is, like, the first time they're like, something's happening.

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Right?

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And before this, they thought that when you went to sleep and you were dreaming that you're like they thought that when you went to sleep, your brain was just, like, power down.

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Right.

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That's just I think it's your gut should pass.

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I don't know

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why I find that so funny, but they're like, it's off.

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I mean, that's good.

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Your computer does.

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That's why it's called sleep mode.

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Oh my god.

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Yeah.

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You know what?

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You're right.

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End of podcast.

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That's it's all been a lie.

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So but they're like, oof.

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Turns out it doesn't just turn off.

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And that when it's in REM sleep, it's actually incredibly active.

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And what's what else is interesting?

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So we have our first two stages where they're like, this is the meaning of your dreams.

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And once they get to the how and they're like, Anne, it doesn't mean shit.

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Like, it means nothing.

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It's just random brain activity.

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It's just, like, static.

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And then it's just noise.

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Right?

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There's nothing in there.

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Like, why would you think it belongs with anything?

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Right.

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I'm like, well, I think you're wrong.

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So okay.

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We've given you our little our background.

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I'm looking at some comments to see if we have anything to address before we continue on.

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I don't know why I went in business mode, but I did.

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She's like, are you?

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Teams.

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This is a Teams meeting.

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I will be taking notes.

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I will follow I won't be.

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Afterwards.

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We're gonna circle back on this.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, hi, Stacy.

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It's so late there.

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Also, we do have some of our Patreons here.

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We've got Yeah.

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We're gonna see who we're gonna do a test of if I know who people's screen names are.

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We've got Mary.

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We've got Damien.

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We've got Gina, Benny.

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We've got Damien.

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Stacy.

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Is Magneto Mike your husband or just a random man?

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I mean, a different mic.

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There's several Mikes on different different ones, so maybe he's there.

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And then we've got Stacy as well.

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Bless.

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And also Stacy does have a beautiful garden.

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She shares an artist's board.

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I know.

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I love it.

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I'm jealous.

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I I'm like, come on.

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Show me how to do things.

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And I feel deep shame because I look out my front window at my just withering basil plant.

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Like, it's got, like, wooden stems.

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Something's I don't think that's a basil plant anymore.

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It's a basilosaurus.

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Oh, yeah.

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And She's still alive.

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Is here in, like, the middle of the night.

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So thank you so much again.

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But thank you to everybody who's here.

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Okay.

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But you're not really here probably to hear us yap about the history of dreams.

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You probably wanna hear about some weird fucking dreams.

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So let's just get on into that.

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So the first set that we're gonna talk about are quite specifically old mansion ones.

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And they are more prevalent than you might think.

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Because you've, like I think that we've probably, like, in the past few years heard of, like, dream worlds and stuff like that.

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But we haven't heard so much about, like, the mansions part of it, which is actually bizarre.

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So I posted a TikTok that was like, tell us your weird dream shit because we're gonna tell you about weird dream shit.

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And we got more comments than we've ever gotten, which I was like, I'm so excited about.

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And they weren't sorry.

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Able to talk about all that they weren't sorry.

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Because when we post haunted doll videos, they literally post people post sorry without like, I'm I'm pretty sure we have, like, over a 100 comments on one video.

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And I was like, you know what?

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They felt moved, and that's art.

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But anyway, let me tell you about these comments about mansion dreams.

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So we're gonna talk about two people.

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I didn't we don't I don't wanna read their usernames, so that feels rude.

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So I'm gonna call them Izzy and Doc.

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So both of them have spent years dreaming of big mansions with endless amounts of rooms that have like a Victorian style.

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And, I'm going to talk about, like, each of their unique experiences and, like, where they come together because they both commented separately, like, not realizing that somebody else had commented about a mansion.

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I was like, somebody else did this.

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So I was like, very, like, into it.

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But okay.

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So Izzy has never seen the outside of the house, only the inside of the mansion.

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And then for Izzy, they'll see people who they know.

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They'll see pets in the dreams.

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And then they'll also sometimes have to save those people and pets.

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That's stressful.

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And Yes.

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Because there's, like, this poltergeist like thing, which is how they describe it.

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That is like, it seems like they're hunting them, but not very hard.

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Right?

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Like, it seems like the like, they've gotta get out of this place, but it doesn't seem like it's, like, oh, no.

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They're only being hunted.

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It seems like they're being mostly hunted.

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Like, 70% hunted.

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That was my take on it.

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But anyway so

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just I'm just being 70% hunted.

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I mean, I guess I've tweeted it like that.

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I could be wrong.

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I could be wrong.

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So their but, like, their description of it is generally a nightmare.

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Like, they're like, I am not having a fun time.

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And so in one of the comments I said back, I was like, this seems like a like a video game.

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It's and it seems like better than that one where you're like, how old are you?

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How old are you?

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I'll hear Ben play.

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And I'm like, oh my god.

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And it was like, Kyle, I'm 15.

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Phasmophobia.

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It's fun.

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But it's, like, after, like, an hour and a half, I'm like, he keeps asking these ghosts what their names are.

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Are they allowed to ask other questions in this game?

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They can't well, he can do a scrolly thing where he just clicks instead of speaking to them too.

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He's doing this to get to you.

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He's like, you know what?

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You wanna go on little ghost things?

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Well, I'm gonna do it right here.

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Yeah.

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I can

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do it in here and like it.

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I I don't know how the game works.

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I'm just assuming that, like, the game can only answer so many responses.

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Right?

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Like, it like, there's only so many things you can ask it.

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It's not him being unoriginal.

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It's that the game's like, you can ask me my age, how I died, and my name.

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Yeah.

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There's only if you've

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got nothing else.

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But anyway Yeah.

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Okay.

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So I said it was like it seems like a video game.

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Izzy is like, Yeah, it actually does seem like a video game, especially because it's a first person view.

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So they can see like what you can see as a human.

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Right.

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They're not looking down on themselves.

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Like, they're not watching themselves, which I feel like that's a whole different type of dream when you're watching yourself versus watching, like like, interacting, if you will.

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And earlier in our TikTok, somebody said, like, oh, look, what do you think about dreams where you're looking down on yourself?

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And I'm like, I find those even scarier because it's not like, you're not you in that moment.

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But anyway so Right.

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Izzy is them, though.

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And they are they see themselves running.

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They'll see their hands if they're picking things up.

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Okay.

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And so, in a different, like, comment, Doc said, she's our second person, that they started having dreams about mansions, about the mansion when they were in elementary school.

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And so every few years, they would get to explore new rooms or new floors.

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And it wasn't until they were in high school, they were like, all of these places that I've been dreaming of are in the same place.

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That's I

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feel like I would've woke up and I'd be like, that's heavy for first thing

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when you wake up.

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Yeah.

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So then, Izzy and Doc start talking to each other.

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And that's where, like, I'm, like, eating popcorn.

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I'm like

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I love those comment sections.

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They're the best.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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And so doc doc asked Izzy if they had ever encountered a deep emerald room that had a painting above the fireplace, and the painting was of a young woman.

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And it either has, like, a melt or like, the painting is either melted in the face or smudged.

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And Izzy responds that they remember that room vaguely, but they don't remember the painting because when they went through it, they were running and they ran and they were there was a, a bathroom with three doors, which that's too many doors for a bathroom.

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Like, there's too many things to lock that you're gonna leave one of them unlocked.

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And but anyway, there's a bathroom with three doors, and then it also smelled like cigar smoke.

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And doc was like, yeah.

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That that yes.

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Same.

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So That's crazy.

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I had asked doc, making sure that I'm getting people correct.

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Yes.

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About whether any of, like, the furniture or things in the in the house itself really stuck out to them or repeated.

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And they said that there was this, like, very, very old Victorian style tea set that was just kind of, like, cracked and just filled with both, like, cobwebs.

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And there was also, like, a Victorian style couch.

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And so Izzy is like, is that your old is your tea set in a room with burgundy walls and the sound of a clock ticking, but you can't see a clock?

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Very Stranger Things.

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So specific, though, as well.

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Right?

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Like Yeah.

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You know?

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And doc is like,

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mhmm.

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Yes.

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But they're also, like when they're typing this, they're also, like, I've got goosebumps.

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Right?

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Like, that's what they're saying because Yeah.

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It's relating so thoroughly.

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And, like, that just feels very specific.

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I'm glad that, like, we could connect dream dream twins.

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But we were curious about this because, like, you know, it's not all like, we've heard of, like, mall world vaguely and stuff.

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Right?

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Like, where people are seeing the same places Have you been to

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mall world, though?

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I have not been to mall world.

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That bathroom, I've dreamt of.

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That bathroom.

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Everyone keeps putting the pictures up.

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Yeah.

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Maybe when we do our next episode, we'll also very specifically ask people to tell us about their mall world experiences.

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Or, like, I, like, I'd love to be able to, like, do at least maybe do at least one episode on dreams where we talk about, like, specific places people are seeing.

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Right.

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Anyhow.

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Right.

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So we were curious about what was going on with all the mansion dreams.

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Because we also did get comments from a few different people talking about either their childhood home or a house that was, like, a different house, but then it the rooms were their childhood home or just a random house.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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And one of the most interesting things that we found is that one of the most common locations in dreams are houses, which makes sense.

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Right?

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Because, like, we're in them all the time.

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But one of the most found out foundational dream content studies was, from Hall and Vandercastle in the nineteen sixties.

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And that was when they were studying, like, the content of dreams.

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And they were like, oh, yeah, this shows up more than anything else.

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I also do wonder, though, like, again, with self reporting, there's only so much, like, truly batshit stuff you're gonna tell, like, a stranger on, like, a dream report.

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You know?

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Like, I'd be curious how people will, like, explain to them now if there was, like, a truly anonymous version.

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Yeah.

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So Oh, maybe.

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That's what we need to do as oracles.

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Mhmm.

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Mhmm.

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We'll make like a

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We figured it out.

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Submit it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So and then also, just generally, like, today, people often report very big massive houses with lots of rooms.

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That's not altogether surprising.

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And specifically, an endless house.

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And then there's one situation where we saw where a person dreamed of, like, rooms and doors that, like, every time they would open a door, it would lead to another door.

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So, like, it was the longest, like, the longest house ever.

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And Damien said that's what I think of as the back rooms.

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I have no idea what that is.

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I have I must be under a rock.

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I don't know.

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I don't get the reference.

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What is it?

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Tell me.

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I'm like

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Like, a never ending, like yeah.

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Like, kind of like a hallway with various doors that all look the same.

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Oh.

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Game.

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There's a few different games of it there.

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I think there's a movie.

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Right?

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They're making a movie?

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They made, like, even, like, a weird semi kid Roblox version of it from what I saw.

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Ollie showed me it.

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It was weird.

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I'm intrigued.

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I'm

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intrigued.

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In a monstrous type.

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Yeah.

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But also, apparently, quite specifically, like, red rooms are very, very common, like, imagery that people see in dreams.

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Now, are they necessarily seeing a burgundy room with a Victorian style couch and a tea set that's broken with cobwebs?

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That sounds more specific to me, but, like Yeah.

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Who am I?

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And then another really, really interesting piece before we move to our next type of dreams is that typically in dreams, you're going to have mostly, like, a visual and audio kind of experience.

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Right?

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You're not necessarily like, it's pretty rare that you'll remember a smell.

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So being able to remember that cigar smoke smell is really interesting and pretty rare.

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And because even if you think back to your own dreams, how often do you remember a scent associated with it?

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Yeah.

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That's true.

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Mhmm.

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Oh, what Stacy said too, door after doors reminds me of that game you guys talked about ages ago where you write that number on your arm before you go to sleep.

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Remember when we were talking about the ritual games?

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Oh, yeah.

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It was, like, the Internet challenges, the spooky ones.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Thank you, Damien, for explaining to me, because I did not understand that backrooms was an old video game thing from the early nineteen from the early, by the I almost said nineteen twenties.

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I just said Meghan.

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From

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the old twenties.

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It's a movie and creepypasta made into something sim like a simple spooky game.

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Okay.

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I'm intrigued.

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I'm intrigued.

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I'll show her.

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I'll make Ollie show her.

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But perfect.

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But none of these things that we've that we talked about, like, about being common and, like, the fact that, like, houses are really common and bedrooms are really common.

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I just don't think that that accounts for the overlap that we're seeing with Izzy and Doc.

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This feels unique to me.

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Also, Jessica asked, what's worse?

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A dream smell or a ghost smell?

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I'm gonna go ghost smell.

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I think so.

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Yeah.

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Mhmm.

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Mhmm.

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Yeah.

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The hallway of Band Aid.

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And our

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last one, Amanda talked about, ghost smell of Band Aid.

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So now I'm like, oh, it could be a ghost smell of Band Aid or blood.

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And I would rather smell like dream cigar smoke.

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I think so too.

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Yeah.

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But you know what though?

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No.

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In the dream, unless you're, like, lucid dreaming, you necessarily don't always, like, escape the smell.

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Like, you're just there.

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Like, it's hap you know what I mean?

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Like, you're not, like, running the dream normally.

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So a ghost smell I could typically leave.

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I don't know.

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It's not good either way.

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I don't want uninvited smells.

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And then I'm writing that down as well.

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Because I that just it hits my soul.

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Ancient text from the nineteen hundreds.

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Yeah.

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You know, they probably did have it, but it was just old farmhouse after old farmhouse.

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Yeah.

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Or I could see like like a version of that where you didn't have houses where that were as big as this.

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It would be like like a field or something that was just like, like you kept going and going and going.

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Oh, Jessica's dream sound fun.

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Dream smells are bakery related.

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I'm okay with that.

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Hell yeah.

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Yeah.

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I would love a great dream.

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Bakery related dream.

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Yeah.

::

So now let's move on to another type of dream, and it's dreams where people are being hunted.

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And a bunch of you sent dreams where you're basically having the same plot.

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Something is hunting you.

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And Cassidy has had a reoccurring dream that was alligator nightmares for twenty five years and has ever once been in an alligator related dangerous situation.

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I okay.

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Well, first off, I love that.

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I already did look up what that meant, though.

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If you follow us on TikTok, I was like, I need to know what alligators and dreams mean.

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And I just think that that is, like, the funniest thing because they're like, they see you before you see them.

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I just don't feel like dreamdictionary.com or whatever website I was looking at needed to, like, to do that.

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It's like a weird different dream symbolize danger that is, like, perceived danger that may or may not actually be danger.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Alligators or crocodiles.

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So

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I wouldn't know the difference.

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I still don't.

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I think Ben's explained, like, 300 times

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comments, please.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I was like, he's hard.

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Told

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me I did three to

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yeah, like, 300 times, and I'm just like, I'll forget it in five minutes.

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Don't worry.

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But I actually, for my, you know, scary creature dream is usually rattlesnakes.

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Like, we have them out here, but I've never, like, been close enough, and, like, they're really not all that bad.

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They're normally pretty chill, but and I'm not afraid of them, so it's weird.

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Yeah.

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But I think that that sound is, like, so jarring.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I love the screen name.

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Homie Band Aid had only nightmares until they were 19, including a cult dedicated to hunting them down and eating them alive.

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That's not great.

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That's terrifying.

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That's too much.

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That's And until they were 19, so, like, as they were, like, little, like, how early?

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I don't like it.

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I remember having nightmares as, like, a child, but I don't remember them being Oh,

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that intense.

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I'm being, like, like, my life is being threatened.

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I think it was more, like, embarrassing dreams or, like, I'm falling there, which is, like, weird shit.

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Yeah.

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And I typically did all the embarrassing things.

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I've fallen in front of a group of people.

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Did

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Oh, yeah.

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I mean, look.

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I'll wanna

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a cell embarrassment.

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You know how to

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Amanda, I'm gonna pin this comment for you to see

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because it's above state.

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Australia.

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Yeah.

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It you are the Australia of America.

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We've seen terrifying creatures many times, but I just haven't had, like, like, we've run into rattlesnakes, but not in, like, a scary situation where, like, we stepped on one or, you know, anything like that.

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Mhmm.

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Alright.

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I was catching up to the comments.

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Okay.

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For the person who had a question, pop it in the chat.

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We're not gonna well, we will get to it because I wanna go through the ones that we have first because we might answer your question.

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And then, we'll also talk about yours, Ashley, when we get to after I'm gonna write it down a note, Minna, of of when we're gonna talk about it.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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We've got other things to talk about with that.

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Okay.

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Proceed, ma'am.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Mhmm.

::

And both Mansion Dreamers that Lindsey had talked about had spent nights running from entities that will kill them if they were caught.

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I've also had many dreams of being hunted by various things, like either, like, ghosty things or, like, like, hunter type things, go like, guns, all kinds of stuff.

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What about you?

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Has that happened?

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Do you have that?

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Oh, yeah.

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I mean, I feel like any nightmare is essentially some version of you being, like, hunted in some way.

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Yeah.

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You know?

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I feel like someone's trying to get you, then that's a that's a that's a haunted dream.

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Hold on.

::

Damien's comment real quick.

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Tell me what that makes you think of.

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I had a friend in childhood who had a constant repeating dream of a giant Kermit the frog trying to eat her, and she swore she didn't think it was Kermit, that she didn't think Kermit was scary until it was a dream until it was dream Kermit.

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It sounds like someone might be lightly lying.

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It's there's no shame in being afraid of frogs.

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No.

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I was gonna say, if there's someone else that's afraid of a weird puppet creature.

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Oh oh, no.

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I was I was gonna say that.

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I was like, can you wanna do you wanna add him?

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Do you wanna tell everybody what he's afraid of?

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Well, I told him I was like, can I bring it up?

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And he was like, well, don't tell people I'm afraid of it because that was, like, when I was a kid.

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I was like, hold on one second.

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I

::

want me to put a picture of it.

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So just really, really talk talk about this in a roundabout way until I have a picture up because it'll make it better.

::

Someone we know had dreams as a child of Grimace from McDonald's, stalking and, like, hunting.

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But then how Grimace would kill him is he would be, like, eaten by Grimace's, like, plush.

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He calls it memory foam mattress material.

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His plush memory foam mattress material.

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I mean, like, that is what you should call it.

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But I mean, you know, like sorry.

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I just really do need to just we're just gonna do a little recap.

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Maybe we'll just let Grimace hang with us for a bit.

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You know what I mean?

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Like like that.

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Like, he can be in the middle.

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But, like, could you imagine that smooshing you?

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It's a little terrifying.

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Is it not?

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I mean yeah.

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Yeah.

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Like, it it is, but it isn't and it's a good thing.

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That's terrifying.

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Is it?

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Is it terrifying?

::

What was it?

::

The hunter creatures have their eyes just, like, on the front like that?

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Like, when he turns, it's always, like, upfront.

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Oh oh, like, predators have forward facing eyes?

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Yeah.

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Like me trying to, like, move us around.

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There we go.

::

Sorry.

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It took me eighty five years to figure out how to do that.

::

Well, let's let Grimace hang here for a second.

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But Perfect.

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Yeah.

::

Who took that?

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He's not afraid of Grimace.

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Just has nightmares of Grimace.

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Yeah.

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I don't think that Grimace smells good.

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He's a he hangs out in a McDonald's.

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Like, he's in, like, the

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nineties that was filled with cigarette smoke.

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No.

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Cigarette smoke and beef beef scents and deep fryer.

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That's what he smells like.

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Delicious.

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He would.

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He would.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

::

I mean, I also have a really massive bean bag that my husband got me from my burka that is named Grimace because he's, like, the same color, And Ben got, like, the Grimace, like, plush thing to put on him, but I also kinda wanna get, like, pillows that look like eyes.

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Doesn't that sound like one time?

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Eyes on there.

::

Yeah.

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I mean, world's my oyster.

::

And I love that when they had that Grimace shake, it was unsettling.

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Like, all the videos were always, like, Grimace killed them.

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Mhmm.

::

Oh, a gagiest candle of a Grimace.

::

That does sound like, the scent of Grimace.

::

The scent of Grimace, but that's just cigarette smoke.

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You just put, like, a cigarette on top of the candle.

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Oh, no.

::

Grimace's taste bud.

::

Oh, yeah.

::

I heard about that.

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He's a taste bud, but, like,

::

terrible.

::

What?

::

Yeah.

::

If Grimace is a taste bud, then explain uncle one moment.

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Oh, yeah.

::

Grimace's uncle.

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Let me

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I don't know.

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Don't say don't say.

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The freedom's name.

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Uncle.

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Because why is uncle o grimace y?

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Like, what does that mean?

::

Is he also a taste bud?

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Oh my god.

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Oh my gosh.

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One moment.

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One moment.

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Beautiful.

::

Tangent has started.

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You're gonna love this.

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You're gonna love it.

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I guarantee it.

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Whoop.

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Whoop.

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That there is here.

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I'm doing guys, I'm doing technology and this at the same time.

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Hey.

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Oh.

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Look at him.

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Oh, my god.

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There we go.

::

Just leave that right here.

::

Let me just go ahead and little little fix.

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There you go.

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Now it's legible that you can still Oh my gosh.

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An uncle o grimace y at the same time.

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I like I like the idea of someone starting now and having no idea why Perfect.

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Miss an uncle o grimace y.

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Well, actually,

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I should probably turn this off take that off because McDonald's could get mad about it.

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Like, they shouldn't, but they could.

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Ugh.

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We are promoting Grimace shakes from, like, three years ago.

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No.

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No.

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No.

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We're not we're not promoting anything.

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We are, this is a parody of Grimace and Uncle O Grimacey.

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And this is not not sorry.

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It's a parody.

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So don't, like, ignore it, everyone.

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It's not a copyright problem.

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Anyway Fine.

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He's a predatory blood butt plug that smells of grapes.

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I what other description could there be?

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Perfect.

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Purple I also does officially they're like, he's a taste bud.

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And it's like, okay.

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He's terrible.

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But who has purple taste?

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Are like, are they purple?

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Like, I put my tongue out.

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Like, my tongue is purple.

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Some tongue doctor's like, oh, no.

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She's got a deficiency.

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After we did our live last time, I took various screenshots.

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I look crazy.

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And I was like, do we look like this?

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And I gonna be one of them.

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Chef's kiss.

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Beautiful.

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Beautiful.

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Okay.

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Alright.

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So back to being hunted.

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One of the being hunted dreams seemed particularly chilling, and it was submitted by Mary.

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So Mary's here in the comments somewhere still.

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She said that she had these nightmares every time she got sick starting when she was about seven or eight until she was about 12, and this is horrifying.

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We're going to read you what Mary sent.

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A demon dressed in black sorry.

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A demon there we go.

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It's starting.

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It's starting.

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This bloopers mid episode.

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You're welcome.

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A treat.

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A demon dressed in black flowing robes would flow at the foot of my bed and tell me he was here to take me to hell.

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He didn't use words.

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He communicated to me with his mind.

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I don't even know if he had a mouth.

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I never saw his face.

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But this experience felt so real.

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I believed without a doubt that this demon was sent to pull me to the depths of hell where I would burn forever.

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That's so sad.

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When he entered my room, it would fill with black fog and a raw terror would rush over me.

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He would grip my arms tightly and start pulling me off the bed, and I would fight back.

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As I would struggle to break free and push away, his arms would stretch so he didn't lose his grip.

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I knew if I lost the tug of war that I would die and he would take me directly to hell.

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I would fight for my life sorry.

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I would fight like my life depended on it, breaking free because it did.

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At some point, I I always managed to get loose, and I would scramble to the far side of my bed.

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I would be exhausted and drenched in sweat.

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At that point, I would it say again.

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It's starting.

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At that point, a whirlpool of gray clouds would open up at the foot of the bed, and the demon would be sucked back to hell, all while he was telling me that he would be back to collect me.

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That's horrifying.

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As a child.

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I'm so sorry.

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Because, again, right, you said that she was seven, like, from, like, seven or eight to 12.

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Like, so scary.

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And, we had emailed back and forth with her, and she had even said, like, she she did think that if he had been able to pull her off the bed that, like, she may have died.

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Like, she didn't she was like something like, I knew something bad was gonna happen.

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I was like, woof.

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Yeah.

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So terrifying for a little kid.

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I hate the idea of children having, like, recurring nightmares like that.

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Yeah.

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That's so sad.

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He didn't get very scary.

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Night terrors.

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I'm adding night terrors to the list for next time.

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Night terrors.

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Oh, night terrors are bad.

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Because I don't write my notes to myself with any context.

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So it's just a whole bunch of random phrases that probably look like I am not stable.

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That's okay.

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Perfect.

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So for these dreams, what's exactly going on?

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There's a real theory for this, and it's one of the more fun ones, which is kind of strange to say when we're talking about terrifying things.

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But

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it's called threat simulation theory, if you will,

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from a reach researcher named anti I'm gonna butcher this, but I'm gonna try.

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Revenossoo.

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And the idea is that dreaming evolved as a kind of safe practice arena for danger, and your brain runs through threat scenarios over and over so that back in waking life, you are better at spotting and escaping danger.

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That's, like, really interesting though.

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Right?

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Mhmm.

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Studies have found that a big chunk of reoccurring dreams contain a threat, and that the threats tend to be aimed right at the dreamer.

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Researchers even found that children who lived through real danger had more threatening dreams than kids who grew up safe.

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Fair warning, this theory is debated, and some studies have not backed it up.

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But it is genuinely interesting as a way to look at it, twenty five years of alligators that never really showed up.

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Right?

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Like, it may Yeah.

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You're preparing.

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You're prepped.

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You're ready for when the alligator shows up.

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I also I don't know why, but when you read the phrase, like, you know, like, children who live through real danger compared to children who grow up safe, like, my soul is just, like, shouldn't we be able to say that they all grow up safe?

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Like, that's, like, that's It would.

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My heart.

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You know what

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I mean?

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Be able to.

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Big feelings all of a sudden.

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You know what I mean?

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Sometimes things just hit you.

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But, like, it is interesting that your brain's like, we're just gonna do a trial run real quick.

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And you're like, oh Yeah.

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Wish you wouldn't because we don't need a trial run for alligators.

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We're good we're good on that.

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Or demons.

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You know?

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Maybe.

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I don't know.

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They're prepped and ready.

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They're prepped.

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This also does remind me, like, of that.

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I I was looking at some I can't remember what it was, what I was looking at.

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They were talking about people who, like, read romance and stuff like that that is, like, very, like, up and down, like, has a lot of emotions in it.

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But they tend to be more resilient because they're re they're reading, like, so much of this, like, heartbreaking stuff over and over and over again.

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I was like, what an interesting little thing.

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Where my mind

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went is like,

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we need to find where the studies are that the CIA used dreams, you know, to, like, start prepping.

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You know I wanna look at the CIA.

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You know, that's

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my point.

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CIA docs.

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Oh my gosh.

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Mhmm.

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You know, I have considered the fact that maybe we should do some of our old episodes again live, because it would be neat to do you ready for it?

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Black Forest live Oh, god.

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Where we actually can show the doc.

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That documentary together?

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Hell, yeah.

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That's like I

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don't even know where it is.

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That's a Patreon.

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I

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bought it.

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Screen that.

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Because I was like, yeah.

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We did.

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Worth every penny.

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I think I saw the DVD case for it somewhere, but it wasn't

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should be in a place of honor in your home.

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I should frame it.

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You should.

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You should.

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Okay.

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So we're moving to our next section, which is medic like, dreams that are happening when you're either medicated or in a coma or, like, unconscious for some reason.

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Mhmm.

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And so Kathle was in a hospital for a few weeks in 2019, and they were on the Lawton, and they had a very vivid dream.

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And in this dream, she was talking to a man made of plastic.

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And she said that this man looked like Matt Damon in the Liberace movie, which is called behind the candelabra.

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So I was like, what the fuck

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is that movie?

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I need to know about it.

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Let me just bless you for a minute.

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She saw this fellow right here.

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Over here on the right, he was taught he was a man made of all plastic, talking to her about grilled meats.

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I hate it.

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And I was like, can he grill?

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Like, I feel like if you're a person made of plastic, you probably shouldn't be grilling.

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Like, it's probably a very bad idea.

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It's

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an old ass situation.

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Yeah.

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I was like, can he eat these grilled meats?

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I was like, I don't think he can because his organs would be plastic.

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I don't understand.

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Organs aren't plastic.

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It's just the outside?

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No.

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He was fully stolen

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organs.

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Fully plastic.

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Oh, no.

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He, like, carved his, like, pen center out and filled it with human organs, and we made it a weird quilt.

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Well, yeah.

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You tell us a unsettling dream.

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We make it worse.

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Yeah.

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It's what we do for you.

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And, oh, also, by the way, during this Googling session, I did see there's another actor that you'll probably recognize.

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This is Rob Lowe in behind the candelabra, and

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I love it so much.

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I don't even know.

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Like, there's something that looks like

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a bit,

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But I

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don't know what it is.

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It's the it's the brows.

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Oh, he looks like

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a

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a Vulcan?

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Is that?

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Re Quinto?

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Leonard Nimoy?

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Kind of?

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Kind yeah.

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Maybe.

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Maybe.

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And Conan did?

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Maybe?

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Like like, had a baby?

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Yeah.

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His forehead never looked bigger.

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Well, yeah.

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I mean, they also gave him quite the bob.

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You know?

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There's and also just, like, what a good pose.

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He did so well.

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Whatever this shot was, he was great.

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I I'm like, Ben, we need to watch it.

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He was like, okay.

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So I was like, hey.

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I just wanna show you a trailer real quick.

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I made you watch it on YouTube.

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It's like nothing but trouble all over again.

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Oh, no.

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Little devil.

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It's giving Damien Salvatore.

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You know what?

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It is.

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It is.

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Perfect.

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Okay.

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So we're talking about a medicated dream.

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Right?

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And this kind of lands in the same territory as coma dreams, where the sedation or opioids can produce dreams that are really, really vivid that people think are incredibly real.

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And when Kathlyn mentioned, like, talked about their dream, they were like, I thought it was real for a second, even though it was bananas.

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Like, I woke up and was like, plastic curling Dan like, Matt Damon and plastic man.

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Like, took them a second to adjust, if you will.

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The hair has so much volume.

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It does.

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I like how he's still up, by the way.

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He's watching.

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Always.

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We'll give these fellas

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I just want him somewhere in the background of everything now,

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just like a framed photo.

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There's other photos too.

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I was like, what is like, presumably, it matches something in the movie, but I haven't watched it, so I don't know.

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But I'll report back.

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Yeah.

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I'll only see him as Parks and Rec forever.

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Oh, yeah.

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I mean, like, I was like, oh, no.

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This doesn't seem like him at all.

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I'm suddenly forgetting his character's name, but here we are.

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Okay.

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So we're moving into a more some some a little we're gonna move into coma dreams, which is really interesting because that is also originally what this entire episode was really gonna be about.

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It was gonna be the dreams that people had when they were in comas.

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And then we got so many cool fucking stories that we were like, oh, we're gonna shorten this area and talk about some other stuff because we've got so many things now.

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But Mhmm.

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We are gonna talk a bit about coma dreams.

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So when we're thinking about what a coma is, it's a state of prolonged loss of consciousness.

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And in a coma, a person cannot be awoken, like, by any form of simulation.

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So if you're in a medically induced coma, if they, like, remove the medicine, then for sure.

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But, like, if, you know, otherwise, can't be woken up.

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And then they don't show any response to, like, sensory types of stuff.

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Right?

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So they don't show any, like, reactions to being touched, light, anything like that, or sound.

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And then there's also a distinct lack of that cyclical nature between sleep and wakefulness that's going on.

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And so while a person is in a coma, depending on why they're in that coma and how the brain is damaged, it can make it so it makes it so that their dreams are just a little bit different from what we normally talk about with dreams.

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And we're gonna talk about some that are, like, chilling.

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There were a couple other stories that we originally had seen about this.

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We were but we were, like, you know, for length, we didn't include all of them.

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But a lot of them have, like, very like, a very detailed perspective, which we'll get into in a second.

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But Yeah.

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Coma dreams may not actually happen in the deep coma itself, but during the transition between in and out of consciousness, which is really interesting because hallucinations that you have or sensory independent perceptions that you have when you're waking up and going to sleep are considered hallucinations.

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They're typically not considered dreams.

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So it is interesting that when we consider comas though, because of like the nature of what it is and how waking up happens, they're, they're different.

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Right?

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And so because you're also like, basically on just, you're only in the sleep cycle.

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Right?

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So it, it ends up being very vivid.

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And the organized mental activity is a bit different as well.

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So these coma dreams, again, they often experienced well, coma experiences are often very coherent and they have more of a story line.

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So when we're thinking of dreams, typically, it's not just fragments of images.

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It's one of that's that's one of the things that that makes them different than hallucinations is that they are typically the story line based.

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But

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Right.

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In coma dreams, it's even more so.

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So think, like, not only are you, like, watching a movie, but you're watching, like, thirty years of a movie.

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Like, you're watching a sombra, if you will.

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Like, you know every character and evil twin and etcetera.

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Right?

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They have stable locations with recurring people and a routine.

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They have emotional continuity.

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And people can feel like they've lived there for even months or years.

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Now, by the way, we're talking about this coma dream real quick, but I realized that I missed something from earlier.

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So now I have to tell you.

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Remember when we were talking about Mansion Dreams?

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Uh-huh.

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Okay.

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Izzy saw people that they knew.

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And they also met people in this mansion world.

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Right?

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And sometimes, they met them in the mansion world first, then met them in the real world later.

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Does that fuck you up?

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Yeah.

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Between that and people that have seen houses or gone into homes in their dreams

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Mhmm.

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And that before.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Like, visiting a new place or going on vacation and then finding that same home.

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There's so many theories, and I love diving into those theories too as to, like, I

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love it happens.

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I'm sorry to drag us back, but okay.

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Home of dreams.

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And so, again, it feels like it's gonna be a much long, it can be like it's a much longer time.

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So months, years.

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And it doesn't feel dreamlike.

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It feels like they're experiencing it truly.

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And some scientists think that the reason why the dreams are different is because their brain is picking up on the sensory stuff that's happening around them, and it's trying to organize it in some way that it can make sense of.

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But because it's not really getting all of it, it can't.

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So it's like basically filling in the blanks where, like, if you know part of a story of what's going on, your brain's gonna make gonna make something up in the middle, you know?

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So, like, kinda like doing that, which I'm like, I don't know.

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But yeah.

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It also I mean, it also would explain why the large chunks of time, like, why it is longer because it actually what physically is longer.

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You're not it's not just

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not years usually, but yeah.

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Like, some people have lived years and years in their coma dream.

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Just unsettling, Amanda.

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Imagine?

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Yes.

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No.

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No.

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I also am Horrible.

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Terrified of being of of, like, the idea of being in a coma is deeply terrifying to me.

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Really?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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So okay, Amanda.

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Are you ready to tell us about some coma dreams?

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Yeah.

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Well, we're yeah.

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One was a knockout dream, but close close enough.

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But, yes.

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So Unconscious dreams.

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Unconscious.

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Conscious not sleep dream.

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Yeah.

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Not sleep dream.

::

So the first story we're gonna share went viral on Reddit a while ago, And it's unknown if it's a true story as it was a post, but it was super interesting, and it's actually become a creepypasta story as well.

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Originally, this was a response to a Reddit question that said, quote, have you ever felt a deep connection to a person you've met in a dream?

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And that thread, I sat on for far too long.

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It was very interesting, and there were so many, like, little stories too.

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Yeah.

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These guys.

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Yeah.

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Sorry.

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I couldn't help myself.

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But there were so many just, like, little, I don't know, like, three sentence stories, and I was like,

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these are so good.

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But I'm just gonna read the story as it was posted because it's not terribly long.

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And what they called it is a parallel life awoken by a lamp.

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I was like, awoken by a lamp?

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What does what does that even mean?

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Specific.

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Specific.

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Very specific.

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So they started throw away

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by a moth.

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Sorry.

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It wasn't They started it

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with throwaway account because it's really personal.

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My last semester at a certain college, I was assaulted by a football player for walking where he was trying to drive.

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Note, he was three hundred and twenty five pounds, and I was a hundred and twenty pounds.

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While unconscious on the ground, I lived a different life.

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I hate it.

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I met a wonderful young lady.

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She made my heart skip and my face red.

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I pursued her for months and dispatched a few jaw sorry, jerk boyfriends before I finally won her over.

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After two years, we got married, and almost immediately, she bore me a daughter.

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So two years already.

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Right?

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Like, oh, well, months and two years after pursuing her.

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I had a great job, and my wife didn't have to work outside of the home.

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When my daughter was two, she, my wife, bore me a son.

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My son was the joy of my life.

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I would walk into his room every morning before I left for work and dote on him and and my daughter.

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One day, while sitting on the couch, I noticed that the perspective of the lamp was odd, like inverted.

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It was still three d, but just wrong.

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It was a square lamp base, red with gold trim, on four legs with a white square shade.

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I was transfixed.

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I couldn't look away from it.

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I stayed up all night staring at it.

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The next morning, I didn't go to work.

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Something was just not right with the lamp.

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I stopped eating.

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I left the couch only to use their bathroom at first.

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Soon, I stopped doing that too as I wasn't eating or drinking.

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I stared at that fucking lamp for three more days before my wife got really worried.

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She had someone come and try to talk to me, but this time, my cognizance was breaking up, and my wife was freaking out.

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She took the kids to her mother's house just before I had my epiphany.

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The lamp was not real.

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The house was not real.

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My wife, my kids, none of it was real.

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The last ten years of my life are not fucking real.

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The lamp started to grow wider and deeper.

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It was still inverted dimensions.

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It looked it took up my entire perspective, and all I could see was red.

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I heard voices, screams, all kinds of weird noises, and I became aware of pain, a fucking shit ton of pain.

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The first words I said were I'm missing teeth, and then I opened my eyes.

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I was laying on my back on the sidewalk surrounded by people that I didn't know.

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Lots were freaking out, and I was completely confused.

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At some point, a cop scooped me up, dragged, slash walked me across the sidewalk and brass, and threw me face down in the back of the cop car, and I was still confused.

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I was taken to the hospital by the cop.

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Seems he didn't wanna wait for an ambulance to arrive, and they gave me a and they gave me CT scans and shit.

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I went through about three years of horrid depression.

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I was grieving the loss of my wife and my children and dealing with the knowledge that they never existed.

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I was scared that I was going insane, and I would cry myself to sleep hoping that I would see her in my dreams.

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I never have, but sometimes I see my son, usually just a glimpse out of my peripheral vision.

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He's perpetually five years old, and I can never hear what he says.

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Update after the user posted.

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That was the end of the story.

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I've had many PMs describing similar experiences and three posters stating that such experiences are impossible.

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I'd say more research needs to be done on brain functions.

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Premed students don't assume you know everything.

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A few have asked him him or her, to write a book or a screenplay, stage play, rage comic, whatever.

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And a lot of people have asked, like, for more, but there's never been any more.

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But creepypasta and a bunch of places have used, like, this story, to make other stories.

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Okay.

::

So two things.

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One, somebody's commenting very bizarre things in the chat, so I'm just gonna ignore them.

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But it's bizarre, and I don't understand.

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So just let them live their life.

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And then the second part is is that I find it so, like, just heartbreaking, the idea of, like, you're living this dream life and you're like, everything's great, and then this happens.

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And I could see if it were to happen, like, you know, say they meet somebody, they fall in love, they have kids, like, that gut feeling of, like, what if this is a dream?

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Like, it would I think it would fuck you up is all I'm saying here.

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Like, that sounds terrifying.

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And, like, this is by no means, like, a singular experience.

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So, like, wild.

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Yeah.

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That will

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And people sad.

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Right?

::

And, yeah, the depression and, like, yeah, grief

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And how do you explain that?

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Is real.

::

Like, there was another story, like, the one that I I said right at the beginning that kinda, like, caught my attention.

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And they had three children.

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One passed, and, like, they remembered it and grieved them and everything.

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But, yeah, wild thing.

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And I feel like, yeah, that could be a movie.

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Right?

::

Should be?

::

Mhmm.

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Yeah.

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I'd watch it.

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I would.

::

Now there was another one that's similar, but, you know, just kind of the world building I thought was interesting, and her name was Caroline Levitt.

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And, after giving birth to her son, she got insanely sick with a blood clotting disorder.

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Because of it, she was put into a medical coma with memory blockers.

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The blockers were so that she didn't remember the pain of any of the procedures.

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When she woke up, she remembers it feeling like someone pulling her violently from one world into another.

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While in the coma, she had been living in a town in an apartment.

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The apartment was hard to get to, like, she remembers it being very hard to get to, but it was big and it was very pretty.

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She remembers a bunch of stores in the area, the streets, the people.

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So, like, daily life of living in this apartment.

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So and

::

I feel like in dreams, you typically are remembering, like, big events.

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It's not like the minutiae of daily life.

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Like, you're not remembering, like, that kind of stuff.

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Like Yeah.

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You're remembering big events, not like even if it was, like, a long dream, like, you would feel like big events, not every single day.

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And, like, what are your daily life of living somewhere?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And the world that she had been in during the coma didn't end after she woke up.

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She continued to dream about this specific world.

::

Well Even after the doctor said it was due to all the meds, like, that she was on during the coma, it was still happening.

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Mhmm.

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And the same town came back in her dreams every like, when she would sleep, and she knew the street.

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She knew her way around.

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Everything was just just, like, back to normal, back to her other life when she'd sleep.

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But this time, when she went back to it, she was living in a house.

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And I love this.

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It had a moat at some point and an animal guard.

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The story seems like this is where she lived originally, but she had called it an apartment at first, so I was a little confused on that.

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But the next time she went back to the town in her dream, she heard that someone she loved who had died actually didn't die, and she was shocked.

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He had faked his death, and everyone agreed to just pretend about it, and now he's living in California, like someone that she knew.

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She bolted awake, but, like, it seemed so real that he was, like, he had just faked his death.

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She says, I believed it was true as if I could hold two realities in my mind.

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Over the years, she dreamed about the same place.

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Things slowly changed, like, she moved to the West Village where she always wanted to live.

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Like, she had dreams of living other places in that dream, if that makes sense.

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Like, she was like, oh, that's Yeah.

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No.

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I do not wanna be like, air.

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As I could.

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Yeah.

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So she talked to her therapist about the dreams who pointed out that they all started in trauma of the coma, and that it makes sense that it would still reappear.

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But she's talked to a quantum physicist friend who told her about paranormal not paranormal.

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Parallel worlds and how different realities can coexist.

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And she doesn't know for sure, but she ended with, all I know is something is happening, and I'm choosing to see it as an adventure to stick to stick around for what might come next or not come next.

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So, like, she believes perhaps she's just visiting herself in another parallel universe and getting, like, a little taste of that life.

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I like, perhaps.

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Like, I'm not I'm not against that theory.

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I also do find it funny the idea that they're like Amanda has said before that if she had the opportunity to jump to a better timeline, that she'd be like, fuck that other version of me.

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It's my turn.

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And, like, in my brain, that's happening, but both versions have figured out how to time jump to the best version.

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So they're just knocking each other out of position.

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They're like, no.

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It's for me.

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I want this.

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No.

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I want this.

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Because, like, you're you in both versions, and you're like, fuck you.

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I want my life.

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The other one's like, no.

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Fuck you.

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I want that life.

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Interesting.

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Mhmm.

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That's crazy.

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I wonder

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if that other one is dreaming when she's dreaming.

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You know?

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Ugh.

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Creepy.

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Creepy.

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I like it.

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Okay.

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So we've covered a good bit of dreams tonight, and there's a bunch that we are not gonna talk about, because we're over, we're over our hour already.

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And because we're gonna have other dream episodes, so we're gonna do we're gonna in other dream episodes, we don't know we haven't decided whether they're gonna be a singular one or a middle one.

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Yeah.

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There was no, Amanda.

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Not anything that was like but they're we're gonna get to them in a second after.

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I lost you.

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But so we're gonna talk about lucid dreaming.

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We're gonna talk about sleep paralysis.

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That might be its own.

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Because actually, we've had research started for that forever.

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Like, when I say forever, I mean, at least three years.

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Because every time I started, I'm like, I'm just I don't feel like doing this right now.

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But now that we've got some, like, live examples, now I'm ready.

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And so we're also and then, like, there's also a ton of dreams that just don't fit into, like, any of the buckets that we've talked about, and they also happen to be some of the weirdest ones.

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So we'll probably do two things.

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One, have episodes.

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And then, also, you'll also see them on our social media too that we're gonna comment and talk about them as well.

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So just as a heads up for those.

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But we did have two things that we were gonna look at.

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So first was Magna Mike had a question earlier about a dream.

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Pop that in the chat, and we will pin it.

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And then also, Ashley asked if we think that you can see people who have passed, like relatives, in your dreams.

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That is also something we're gonna talk about in another episode because we got some of those.

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But I think so.

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Like

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I think so too.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I'm definitely of the woo woo flavor of dreams.

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So, like, in that in that feel, I think that that would be, like, a definitely in my opinion.

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But Yeah.

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Who knows what science Agreed.

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Is.

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You know?

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I'm checking everywhere to see if we have other things things to respond to, but I think we're good.

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Oh, oh, oh.

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Okay.

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Well Oh, I am trying to find out.

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Just time someone out and we're just gonna block them.

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That's what we're gonna do instead.

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What a time.

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Okay.

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So while we're waiting for a magnet mic's question, if they're still here, we looked at also, how do you remember your dreams?

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I'm a person who doesn't tend to remember a lot of my dreams.

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And if I, like, get up and write them down, I'm more likely to.

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But I generally don't remember them.

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Now Yeah.

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If you want to figure out how to, like, remember your dreams, here's some things you can do.

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Write them down the second you wake up.

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And, like, before you move, like like while you're in bed, grab your notebook or your phone and, you know, put it into your notes app.

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And then write whatever you can remember.

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So even if it's just like a snippet of the dream, just put that because you'll start to be able to remember more.

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Like, it's kinda like a muscle, it seems like.

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And when we talked earlier, I so one of the things that I kept asking people was like, do you normally remember your dreams?

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Do you normally remember your dreams or do you write them down?

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Like, what do you do?

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Yeah.

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I started getting a very, like, these are the questions I've got.

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And what a lot of people said was the people who had really vivid dreams are people who typically remember their dreams.

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But Izzy, our mansion story earlier said that, fear locks their the the details in for them.

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And so, like, that's one of the things that they think is why they remember it is because they're so scared that, like, it's like, how could they not remember it?

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They yeah.

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They are practicing.

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You you wanna show the comments they ask their questions?

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Oh, yes.

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I will.

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I will.

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Okay.

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Well, first off, I'm gonna I'm gonna we're gonna we're gonna go in order of questions that are here.

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So one moment.

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The first one here that we're gonna point out is, do either of you talk in your sleep?

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I don't talk in my sleep.

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But I know someone who does, and that person giggles and says, no, in their sleep as well.

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My son does.

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Not naming names.

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Sleep a lot.

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And sometimes he'll sit up and say something, and we'll be like, are you awake, or are you not awake?

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No.

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And he won't respond Not children.

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Back down.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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No.

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That's that's a hard pass for a child doing that.

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Okay.

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And then the next question that we had was, just the fact that my dad okay.

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So this person was saying that their dad was, like, evil and or was trying to hurt them in their dream, but it's bizarre because their dad's, like, a good man.

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Like, not like somebody who would do that.

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So it's, like, why why would you be dreaming of them being evil or, like, attacking you?

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And I would even say, like,

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fear I'd say.

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Right?

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Like Mhmm.

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I mean, that just could be, like, a fear of, like, someone that you love and trust turning,

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I feel like.

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Mhmm.

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That's like a common

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I was even gonna say if we yeah.

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Like, I was even gonna say that, when, when you're thinking of that idea of, like, practicing danger, what better way for your brain to give you an opportunity to practice, like, how to escape than to have it with a person who's actually genuinely, like, not gonna hurt you.

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Like Yeah.

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Right?

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Because it's not like you wake up and you're like, this person who already scares me now scares me more.

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You're like, that's my dad.

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We're good.

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Yeah.

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That's my guess.

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Interesting.

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Yeah.

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But, oh, but they keep having it.

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And that would be stressful.

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I wouldn't like that one bit.

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Oh, and then Damien said, I have the most vivid details of dreams when I have night terror nightmares.

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It's a real cool thing that my brain does.

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Night terrors are tricky.

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Those suck.

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Mhmm.

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It's all it's all no thanks for nightmares.

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You know?

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Like, it's been a like, I tend to have, like, nightmares about things that I'm stressed about that are, like, a current stress, which, like, I've, like, dreamt about work stuff, and I'm like, I'm not paid right now.

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So, like, you don't get paid from my sleep.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And so I don't like that.

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But, like, typically, mine are, like, like, around, like, the world of what I'm, like, living in and that kind of stress.

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Or I'll wake up just, like, knowing I had a nightmare because my entire body's tense.

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Or I will sometimes get so stressed out in my dreams that I'll wake up with a migraine.

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And I was like, oh, that's unique to me because I have bad posture and a really tight neck.

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And, like, that's, like, just like a Lindsey thing.

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And in our research, I found that that is actually not a fucking Lindsey thing.

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That it's actually like a thing that happens is that people will have nightmares that, like, get them to have sorry.

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I, like, hit my mic.

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Nightmares that, like, precede a migraine.

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Like, that's, like, a a thing.

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No dream work.

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No ghost work.

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I agree.

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Agree.

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Have any have have we died in our dreams?

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Put it in the chat if you've died in a dream.

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I have not.

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Someone had mentioned that when they wake up we'll we'll find the comment.

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It's on one of our socials, but they always feel like they fell down, like, back onto their mattress.

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I've done that if I've died in my dream.

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Oh.

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My mattress is falling.

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Yeah.

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Kind of.

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Like, my heart rate's going crazy.

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I'm usually really stressed out, but I feel like I'd, like, wake up super fast.

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Like, I just fell down.

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And then Shannon on TikTok said, yes, multiple times to having died in your I don't like that one more time.

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One bit at all.

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Oh, replaying replaying conversations, but, like, in a different context.

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Yeah.

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I

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would love, though, if it was, like, you were, like, rehabbing a conversation that, like, didn't go the way you wanted it, and it was, like, you dreamt of it, like, the perfect way.

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That sounds satisfying.

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I feel like that's a dream

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I could get behind.

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Why can dream me be better?

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I'm stealing her spot.

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Amanda is all about knocking that other Amanda bitch out of the fucking way.

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I'm like, oh, well, this is what it could've been, but it wasn't.

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Oh, well.

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Amanda's like, I'm gonna fuck that Amanda up.

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Okay.

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Okay, girl.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So let's see.

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Well, I'm I'm checking our notes, if you will.

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So if you wanna remember your dreams, very simple.

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Write them down when you go to sleep.

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In our research, we

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typically wake up.

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But if you could, I guess,

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sleep right,

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do that too.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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But also, when we do our lucid dreams episode, what's fun about that is that we can talk about tips to be able to do lucid dreaming.

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And then there's we there's also some studies that have been done about how to, like, control what happens in your dreams, like, before you fall asleep.

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So, like, not you're dreaming and you know you're dreaming, but, like, being able to, like, pick the channel to a certain extent, which I'm, like, that's interesting.

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So, like, being like, if you're thinking about a certain thing before you go to sleep, you're more likely it's, like, fresh on the mind.

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And then That's what

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we used to do when we were kids.

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It's, like, if we wanted to, like, sleep well, we'd, like, think of something good and, like, talk about it before bed.

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That was, like, a thing.

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Mhmm.

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But

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Yeah.

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I mean, I also I still think it's, like, a good practice to, like, think of that kind of stuff before before bedtime.

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Come on.

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It makes me so sad.

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Which one I have is

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a home invasion, and the guy has a gun to my head in front of my family.

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The guy shoots.

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The dream slows, and I can slowly see the bullet going through the layers.

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Oh my gosh.

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I hate it.

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Oh god.

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No.

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That's very bad.

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That few times?

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That's a nightmare.

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Yeah.

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Oh my gosh.

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Okay.

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Very bad.

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So fascinating when we, like, have recurring dreams of the same thing over and over again.

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Like, I'm like, what?

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Like, it's hard for me to get behind the idea that it's random brain activity when you have the same thing.

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Like, if it's so random, how do you have it twice?

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On TikTok, Shannon said that I usually die in all my dreams that I remember, and I also have premonitions in my dreams, which there was another person who commented on, like, our TikTok video that said all of their dreams were nightmares.

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And I was like that.

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And they and I was like, that sounds like it's really hard to sleep there.

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Like, it is.

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I'm exhausted.

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And I was like, fair.

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Like, if every time you go to sleep, you see something awful, you're not gonna you're not gonna wanna go to sleep.

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And then for the premonitions bit, that is on our list of, like, next time dreams.

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So, Shannon, please feel free to shoot us a message if you if you wanna tell us any of the the dreams you want us to include them next time.

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But, like, generally, like, it's wild to know, like, that it's it's brain activity, apparently, that's just random, but we're it's coming through.

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Distorted away.

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These people.

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Like, no.

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No.

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No.

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No.

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No.

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No.

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I've seen the what?

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You only see people in your dream that you've seen before?

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Or, like,

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you can't make a difference?

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That stresses me out because I'm like, who the fuck are some of these people?

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Now do I remember it?

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I can't even remember, like, what I did yesterday.

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Yeah.

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But also, when you're thinking of all of the faces you've seen in your life, like, you're gonna walk by a bazillion people when you're out in the world, and you're not gonna remember every single one of them.

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Like, if there's a reason for your brain to remember it, yeah, well, you're okay.

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I mean, okay.

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Amanda's brain does.

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Your your sleep brain does.

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Like, how do you No.

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That's what I'm saying.

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That's my point, though, is that it's, like, not somebody who you, like, gazed upon, somebody who was, like, a background character.

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Yeah.

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It's weird.

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So earlier, Jessica said Amanda has FOMO for alter Amanda.

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Accurate.

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Accurate.

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Yeah.

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She does.

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She does.

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And then, Damien said that he's died in his dream many times, but then it becomes a third person dream where he's like a ghost, a dream ghost.

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That's scary.

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Well and, also, here here but hear me.

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You ready?

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Think about this.

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So if you're having a dream where you're, like, watching people, even if it's yourself, are you a dream ghost?

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Like, if you aren't interacting and you're purely watching, are you a dream ghost?

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Or are you looking in on the alternate dimension?

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Another dimension.

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Yeah.

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You're a ghost in the alternate dimension.

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Mhmm.

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Mhmm.

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Mhmm.

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You're haunting someone.

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Yeah.

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That's what I think I said that years ago in an episode, the person that was haunting the house that they would visit in their dreams.

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And then they they were

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the ghosts in

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the house.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Mm-mm.

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I don't like them.

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That stresses me out one bit.

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On TikTok, Bunny said that they've been having the same nice nightmares since they were a child.

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And it's morphed if they've aged, but it's like the same thing.

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I also find that generally fascinating because how interesting that your brain's like updating updating this, like, dream world or situation to yeah.

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Mhmm.

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I'm

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sorry.

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Okay.

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So I was gonna save Joe's for our other episode because he's here.

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I'm gonna tell you about it.

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You ready?

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Only for one of your email.

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Because he he was he was one of ours that did not fall into a neat bucket, but he's like, I think I'm gonna have it again because we've been talking about it.

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And I'm like, no.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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I'm gonna find your email.

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Okay.

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You can see like the bright white of my other screen.

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So for his dream, he said, the first time I remember having this dream, I was a sophomore in high school.

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And the bones of the dream are always the same, but the specifics might wait, it might change here and there.

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Starts normal enough.

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I'm a traveler in medieval times, which just made me think of, like, the place medieval times, which is not what he means.

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But I'm just out traveling the wilderness when I hear a voice.

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It's very siren like.

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It's a beckoning female.

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I find the voice and it's just a hole.

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And around probably six feet wide, bottomless hole where the voice just drifts out of it.

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Sometimes it's a cave.

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Sometimes it's in a sometimes it's in a cave.

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Sometimes it's in a clearing.

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But it's just completely nondescript.

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I talk.

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I stop.

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I talk.

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And I end up falling completely enamored with the voice.

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And I keep coming back to it.

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I sleep next to it.

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I dedicate my life to it, and the woman never comes out.

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It just keeps talking to me.

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I bring fruit food and flowers and put it in the hole.

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And that's just it.

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I'm just there.

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There's been a couple of times I've been there until I died, but it's usually just a really long time.

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The weird thing is that this feels really long.

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And sometimes or sometimes it feels a little the weird thing is that it feels long, really long.

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Sometimes it's the only dream I remember having that night.

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It's a little discombobulating.

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And when he wakes up, he's like he feels like that longing, like remote like romantically, like, romantically fulfilled.

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Or sometimes it's like the longing of, like, that feeling, which, like, woof.

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It's I think it's a really interesting idea to have that, like, love feeling in a dream like that in a recurring way where you're like, I can feel

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it.

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Yeah.

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That's yeah.

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That's wild.

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And unsettling.

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And I hope you don't have that dream soon.

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Yeah.

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And also hold on one moment.

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Joe, you're in the you're here, so I'm gonna ask you.

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Say yes if I can say the other things that you had told me about your dream.

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I just wanna make sure before I say it.

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But before that, while while I'm we're waiting for him to respond, I want I would love if people who had dreams, who wanted us to share them in our podiversary episode this year

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Yes.

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Gave sent us some dreams.

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We'll include them in other episodes too.

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But, also, we'll take any scary dream.

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Love a good scary dream.

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Yes.

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And or I say any dream.

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Any scary story.

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We want all spooky stories.

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Like, what we can't have enough.

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Okay.

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You ready, Amanda?

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He talked to an oracle about his dreams.

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We chatted.

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Yeah.

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Amanda Amanda and and Joe.

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But they said that they thought it was somebody from a past life who hadn't moved on.

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Oh.

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And I was like, see.

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I think that, it's it from, like, what he was saying, the way he described it, to me, it sounded a lot like like a memory of loving someone.

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Like, that's just kind of, like, my interpretation of how he explained it.

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I was like, that's really interesting, like, to have that kind of feeling where it's recurring versus, like, in our in our, like, medically induced or or coma or, you know, unconscious ones.

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First off, like, there's, like, that that extra element of there being a medical component.

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But also, those are, like, they're part of a life.

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Right?

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Like, that's, like, like, actually happening versus this is, like, completely different scene, completely different space.

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I also was like, hey, what kind of flowers was it?

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Like, just curious of whether we're seeing the same thing over and over.

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And he was like, sometimes I would just bring flowers that I saw.

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Other times, I would, I would plant flowers around, like, the hole.

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Mhmm.

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I was like, but, like, wild.

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Right?

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What a wild dream.

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Super random.

::

Well, what we cut some of it again for the sake of time, but, like, some theories for the dreams were that you were visiting some of your past lives.

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Or if we wanna talk about the way that we had learned about, different lives in Saint Augustine, your different tentacles

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of life.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Like, you know, you're just part of your soul.

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Yeah.

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You're popping in either to an older life or, you know, a life that's happening at the same time, or parallel universes, which I thought was interesting too.

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Mhmm.

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But I love all of the theories for it.

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Well, and also, when we're thinking of alternate realities, like, there's worlds where we don't we aren't like, in my opinion, it's completely feasible that there's worlds where the world looks very different from where we're at, where it might look similar to how it looked hundreds of years ago.

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Joe also said the fact that it's so eerily similar sometimes years apart, it's weird, which fair.

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Like, that same feeling, the same imagery, like, that would be deeply, deeply unsettling.

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Well, that's what makes it seem more like a memory then.

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Like, if it Exactly.

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Nothing's really changing.

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Yeah.

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Mhmm.

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Weird.

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I love it.

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I love all of this.

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I love it.

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I love all of it.

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We're gonna talk more about dreams because we've got so many to talk about.

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Now, like, Amanda, we're we're an oracle.

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We're oracles.

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Well, I'm the I'm the master of the matrix.

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I think they don't know.

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I was the queen of the matrix.

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Somebody said something.

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I don't know.

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Yeah.

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Weird LinkedIns.

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Oh, or the photo of when you were Batman villain as well.

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Oh, yes.

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Yes.

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So we told you we wanted you to share your scary stories with us.

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So I'm gonna scare you now.

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Now Great.

::

Before I show it to you, Amanda, you wanna roll that beautiful bean footage on the last things we had to say?

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So this way because they're gonna be so scared, they're gonna exit right out of this.

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So I have to prep it.

::

So we wanna know, what do you think's going on?

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Like, what do you think a dream is?

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Is it a memory, a past life, a parallel universe, your brain being weird?

::

Like, what is it?

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And, I mean, I think that depending on the dream, it could be like any of those.

::

What about you, Lindsey?

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I think it can be any of those.

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I think that there's times when it's just like our brain doing a weird thing.

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I think there's times when it could be a past life where you're, you know, making sense of, like, chaotic sounds around you, even processing information that you got in that day.

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Like, one of the things that people will do is actively, like, before they go to bed, they're like, what problems do I wanna solve tomorrow?

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Or, like, what things did I didn't I get done that, like, I wanna be able to tackle tomorrow?

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And sometimes people will wake up, like, with the answer.

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Or, like, the next time they go to it go to it, it's like they've been working on it for a while, and I'm like, intriguing.

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So you could instead my thing is, like, I'm always, like, that's future Amanda to figure out.

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Right?

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I could be, like, it's sleep Amanda that'll figure that one out for me, because I don't want to.

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I mean, yeah.

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Yeah, but is there a sleep Amanda?

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There's really not.

::

Yeah.

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There's no, you don't, you don't, Amanda, she's light on sleep at all times.

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I'm not a good sleeper.

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I'm not good at it.

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But I'm

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not seeing that photo.

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I just have to

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I can zoom in

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I can talk.

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Intensely.

::

Neuroscience understands a shocking amount about the mechanics of the brain and still cannot fully explain two things.

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We do not really understand consciousness, and we do not know why we dream at all still, which is bizarre.

::

So in all of our comments on all of our places, we wanna know what you think is happening and send us your dream stories for October because doing the Podiversary live is gonna be so much fun.

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Yeah.

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And so with it being live oh, gosh.

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I'm doing two things at once, so just bear with me here.

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If you wanna send us a video, you can as well.

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Don't send us weird stuff though, please.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Or if

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you're like, if you've got a haunted object and you wanna, like, show it to us, we would love to see that.

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Like, if you wanna record a little video of you talking, would also love that.

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10 out of 10.

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Okay.

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One moment.

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I am working on my scary photo.

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Oh, I need to check.

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Show the photo first.

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Like, I'm oh, I'm gonna show both Yeah.

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So that they can see, like, how far out and just the the incredible amount of zooming that had to occur.

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Oops.

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Sorry.

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Again, I have a thousand windows with comments and such.

::

So I am what I was gonna, like, touch on TikTok comments really quick.

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Two friends said they're gonna haunt each other's dreams, which I think is funny.

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But there's two friends that are in the TikTok and it's Bunny and Shanim.

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And I'm pretty sure I went to middle school with at least one of them, but and elementary school.

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But they said that Shannon said that Bunny is their closest friend and that they've they've seen their, like, dreams where their their premonitions, where they're, you know, they woke up and said, hey, I've had a had this dream.

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Then they're like, hey, this is going on.

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So I'm like, interesting.

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I like that, like, backup.

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If they're gonna haunt each other's dreams, my BFF and I made a string of random words that should not go together, and that's how we know the other one's actually homogeneous

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as if we

::

yeah, code word.

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Oh.

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If string words

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I do like that.

::

That's a code word.

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That's something that we saw in the back of a car years ago, and that's our code word, and it will always be.

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I am a very big fan of having, like, a code phrase because of two things.

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One, because of, like, if you're gonna haunt someone, dreams or life otherwise.

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And then, two, a long time ago, Amanda and I talked about phone scams where people were, like, they have your voice so they could, like, make your like, they used AI or, like, something else then, but now AI.

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And they're, like, here's your voice.

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And they can, like, have you call a loved one and basically, like, either lure them out of their house to hurt them or, like, try to, like, get money from them.

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And, Amanda Yeah.

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There's a lot of our voice out in the world, so we better have code phrases Yeah.

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For people who would consider ransoming giving us ransom money or being lured out.

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There's It's not many, but for me.

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I feel like, there's a there's a few things that we could say that, like, we would only understand between things, or, like, we have our code for if we get murdered.

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Mhmm.

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Mhmm.

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Like, if we knew the person that Yeah.

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Yes.

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No.

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Sorry.

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Hold on.

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Wait.

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I'm moving us all around.

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Okay.

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Are you ready?

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Yes.

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You're

::

you're not.

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You're not.

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You're not ready.

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No one's ready for this.

::

Every time everyone's like,

::

oh, it's probably not that bad.

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But, like, it's

::

Oh, yeah.

::

No.

::

Like, you're probably just making fun of it.

::

So earlier, I said that I was gonna share a photo that is the scariest photo of me that you'll ever see.

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And we brought it up because somebody something something about Batman villains.

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And I, in my opinion, look like the younger, unattractive sister of Danny DeVito's the penguin.

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So this is the photo that Amanda took when I jumped off a like, a little that little cliff in Mexico.

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By the way, I'm afraid of heights.

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I had a fever.

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I was doing unwell not well, but I didn't know that.

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We didn't know that.

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Right?

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And so I jumped from there.

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They didn't know that I had jumped because I literally walked up and was like, am I good?

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And then just ran off this fucking cliff.

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Yeah.

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The guy was like, I didn't look down first.

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So I'm, like, going down, figuring out, like, let's not hit people.

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But, anyway, so she she captures this just, like, iconic photo of it.

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Look how pretty

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You can see me right here.

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It's stunning.

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It's stunning.

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Everything is stunning.

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Beautiful place.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

::

So and then this is where like, the first thing I did was I, like, zoomed in on this bad boy.

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You know?

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I was like, well, like, you know, how what do, like, what do I look like?

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You know?

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Just I'm curious.

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Sorry.

::

I'm I'm skipping for those here.

::

Oh, for sure.

::

Yeah.

::

Like, if if this is what people saw for mermaids, I think that they would be a lot more scared of mermaids, frankly.

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They are.

::

Sorry.

::

I'm I'm, like, fighting for my life trying to find where I saved this.

::

It is true, Davian.

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It's proof that

::

the most beautiful person can still take a bad photo.

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And it is, in fact, the worst photo.

::

Here she is.

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She's, like, comment.

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The right photo.

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Look at her.

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Amanda, I'm taking you off just for a second so that it's it's just it's just me and me.

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You know what I mean?

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Bam.

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Same person.

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Look at her.

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Look at this flips.

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Classic.

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Oh, God.

::

Now I've hidden us, and I don't know how to get back to it.

::

Just kidding.

::

You're back.

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Did I mute you on accident?

::

Possibly.

::

You're back.

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Like it's okay.

::

It could just be you and mermaid Lindsey forever.

::

It's just me and me.

::

You know what I mean?

::

You when I talk.

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Just rattle it when I speak.

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Just rattles.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So but you're welcome.

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You're welcome for that little gem.

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Little this little gem.

::

That's my it's, the group chat photo for my brother and sister-in-law, Ben and I.

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I also like my one of my favorite things is seeing people's reaction when they see that photo because it is that level of them.

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I just love when you describe each piece of it too.

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Like, the hair part.

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I don't know.

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Oh, oh my gosh.

::

I didn't even do that part.

::

Really?

::

Let's, like, let's take her in.

::

What's going on up here, guys?

::

Where does that hair go?

::

Like, she has hair.

::

Look.

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I've got light roots.

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I dyed them today, so they're not I mean, they're not great, but they're better.

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But they're light, but they're not that light.

::

Where'd my hair go?

::

Where'd my hair go?

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My face, I don't think I look I don't think it looks like that.

::

I will I will just tell you that that life vest was a very secure life vest, and then it went around, and it went up under.

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And when I jumped down, what you think happened is what happened.

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So, like, that face matches how I felt in that moment, but I don't recall having made that face.

::

Do you should I try to make it?

::

Hold on.

::

Are you ready?

::

Like, stretch my shoulders.

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Put yourself back into Mexico.

::

Yeah.

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I'm just like, I've I've got a fever.

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I've jumped off a cliff.

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I can't float in a raft.

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So start here.

::

There's your next screenshot.

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I've got so many for you.

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I love it, and

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I love it.

::

Well that day, the our, like, hell was trying to get back to our hotel, and it took us, like, six hours for some reason.

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Oh my gosh.

::

They were like, you're the first pickup, but you're the last one off the bus.

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And we were like, we lived there for years.

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Okay.

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But we've gone on.

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We've gone on and on forever and always.

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This has been a a fantastic live.

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We're excited.

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Our next one's gonna be in August.

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Mermaid Lindsey makes it to your dreams.

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Oh oh my gosh.

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If you dream of me tonight, you better fucking tell me, like, immediately.

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I want you to get get online.

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This is you getting online,

::

like, working on computers.

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Don't no.

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Don't run

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out of your computer.

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Laying in bed.

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I want you to lay in bed and type that note out.

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Type that note out.

::

I want as many details as you have within reason.

::

You know what I mean?

::

I'm dropping my thing.

::

Like, keep some things to yourself if you know what I'm saying here.

::

But, like, I really like, if you if you have a dream of this gorgeous gal, you better tell us.

::

Just I wanna know anyone else that's jumped off that cliff at that place.

::

Like, if this is what happens when you jump off that cliff?

::

Yeah.

::

Like, is there, like, some sort of glitch thing that happens in a portal,

::

perhaps, like, the matrix?

::

Yeah.

::

That, like, ruins every photo.

::

Here's the thing.

::

They are missing out on money not having photos of people.

::

Like, you know, like, when you go through a roller coaster, and you're like, like, you're telling me you don't want a little keychain thing of this bad boy?

::

I'd buy it.

::

I would.

::

I would've bought it that day.

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In a heartbeat.

::

Like, again, I've made her into a pillow for Damien.

::

You know?

::

Oh, no.

::

The penguin is gonna be at the bottom.

::

Oh, no.

::

A lovely voice, but she's down there just, like

::

With your flippers.

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My flippers.

::

When I made the pillow, it you can see where my arms, like, you can just see them above the water.

::

So I did, like, a background remover on the website, and so it cut me off here.

::

So it had I just had, like, little flips on the side.

::

It's my favorite.

::

No good.

::

No, no good.

::

But also just a moment in and of herself.

::

Okay.

::

Before we I'm gonna I'm gonna check to make sure that we didn't miss any comments and such.

::

And then, doom and to loom is what Ben said because it was so hot there that we would love to be your version of suit.

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Doom and Tulum.

::

That was, like, the story.

::

One, I didn't know that I was very sick, but it was we were, like, sweating, and it looked like we had just gotten out of the shower.

::

Like I've never

::

And our tour guide was like, I want you to be in direct sunlight at all all times.

::

Other ones were like, here's an umbrella.

::

Here's a tree.

::

Not us.

::

Ours is like, can I make you die?

::

Yes.

::

Exactly.

::

Ben was like, Lindsey no.

::

Ben was like, wait until you see her in all her splendor because someone had said, Lindsey is the way hotter sister of Danny DeVito.

::

So now I am, but not here.

::

Not here.

::

A stunning a vision.

::

And then someone said my hair is shiny.

::

Bless you.

::

But that's not what that is because that would it would be shiny equally.

::

Whereas it looks like

::

created that bot spot.

::

It I'm actually these two balls, that's the portal line right there.

::

There's a mirror on either side as well.

::

Oh, Damien is going to them.

::

Events commenting in several different places.

::

Angelic Siren of the Deep.

::

And he said she is.

::

And then Damien was like, she's celebrating this house.

::

I think he's my I think he might be texting me the photo of the, pillow.

::

Oh, yay.

::

So that you can really I've

::

seen a picture of it when you first got it.

::

Just a little pillow talk at the end of this.

::

Then I you know?

::

Oh, that's that's that's how they could dream of you.

::

Perfect.

::

Dream of me as a pillow?

::

Well, no.

::

We can spell

::

this as a

::

pillow so you can have penguin dreams.

::

Oh, oh, oh, we're selling them so that people can actively try

::

to dream of this version of it?

::

Yeah.

::

That's gonna be a whole new thing.

::

Like, it comes with a little comment card, like, when you go to this website to talk about the dream that you had of the

::

Yeah.

::

Please report.

::

It's like some people really wanna have an experience.

::

They don't care whether it's a good or a bad experience, and I respect that.

::

Like, one of the things that Ben and I are really big on

::

is the fact

::

that, like, even if something wasn't, like, an objectively good, like, meal or play or whatever, we're like, but it was an experience, and, you know, that's what I can promise with this pillow.

::

I love that.

::

Like, what's with the balls?

::

I think that was just, like, you need to stay out of this area so people can jump.

::

I was not paying attention.

::

And I did not know that.

::

I jumped.

::

I was like, oh, there's people all around.

::

I don't know.

::

I was like, I don't know how this was happening, frankly.

::

That was like the landing zone, I think.

::

Yeah.

::

Hold on one second.

::

We're gonna duplicate this, and then I'm going to show you guys the pillow.

::

And then if you're listening to this podcast podcast version

::

If you're listening to this podcast.

::

Podcast.

::

Podcast version.

::

I can't speak.

::

It happens.

::

I usually can cut it.

::

Oh, no.

::

I love it so much.

::

Amanda's response.

::

Oh, no.

::

Yeah.

::

I mean, it really first off, that tag is funny to me, but it really brings out my bald spot.

::

It's my favorite thing ever.

::

I also when I bought it, I didn't realize how tiny it was.

::

That's, like, travel size.

::

Oh my god.

::

I can't even with you.

::

I was gonna say

::

I was like, I can rip the stuffing out of it and make it into a purse.

::

Arts and crafts, baby.

::

What can I be?

::

Oh, yeah.

::

Oh, your flippers can hold the

::

the flippers.

::

That's where the straps are.

::

It's like a fanny pack, though.

::

So it's, like, really

::

or, like,

::

fanny pack and then, like, I wear it across it's a fanny pack, but I wear it across my chest.

::

Yeah.

::

Right there.

::

10 to 10 no notes.

::

Okay.

::

I'm doing one more final check.

::

I'm deceased.

::

But are we let's see.

::

We don't Amanda, do we did we decide on a date for August?

::

I think we did.

::

I think

::

we before we did.

::

Yeah.

::

Let's if you gave

::

it all on the phone,

::

we're gonna we'll we'll tell you on social media and or yes.

::

I don't know where where the and or was.

::

We'll tell everybody on social media when our next live is just because we wanna confirm the date.

::

But we're very excited, and we've had so much fun tonight.

::

Again, if you dream of me tonight or Amanda you know what I mean?

::

But we're Amanda, do you

::

have any bad photos to share?

::

Like

::

All my photos are bad for just take a quick screenshot of this live, and you'll get one.

::

Yeah.

::

Done.

::

There you go.

::

And here's the deal.

::

Right?

::

If you want dream advice from Amanda, like and she's not gonna look it up.

::

She's gonna she's shooting from the hip.

::

She's going on vibes.

::

Right?

::

Absolutely.

::

You can just, just make sure you put hashtag Amanda the oracle on your on your post to us.

::

And hold on one moment one moment because I can do a thing Oh

::

my gosh.

::

In here now.

::

One moment real quick.

::

Uh-uh.

::

I'm so scared.

::

You should be.

::

Oh, god.

::

We've done something.

::

I feel like we could just share the the pictures that I sent you last time of, like, truly random screenshots, but all of them were just gems.

::

Yes.

::

10 out of 10.

::

One moment.

::

I'm really scared.

::

How do I I don't oh, there we go.

::

I have to click this.

::

Just over and over.

::

Roll that.

::

Roll it over.

::

So much.

::

That's who you're gonna that's what you're gonna tag and add us.

::

Internet.

::

You know what I'm saying?

::

If you want her to Yeah.

::

Make up a dream reading.

::

Yeah.

::

On the Internet where we are

::

Pound sign.

::

Pound sign.

::

And you're gonna you're gonna go to the oh my god.

::

The interwebs.

::

The

::

no.

::

I'm I'm so disappointed to myself.

::

No.

::

You're gonna go to you're gonna type one, and then you're gonna so you're gonna type it on your Nokia.

::

You're gonna type it out.

::

Mhmm.

::

I do think that that should be what we as millennials decide is gonna be our ghost language is that you would have to, like, like, 1 333444.

::

Yeah.

::

Yeah.

::

Yeah.

::

Yeah.

::

Just like that.

::

I think that that's what we should do to the younger generation.

::

Secret language.

::

They won't know.

::

That's our secret millennial language.

::

They're I don't I don't know if we have youth listening to this.

::

I don't I don't think we do.

::

I don't I don't think we're for them.

::

They'd have some insult.

::

I don't know what it means.

::

Like, they'd call me Ohio, and I I don't get it.

::

We're just we're we're it's never ending.

::

Okay.

::

Hawthorne Heights likes

::

it.

::

What?

::

Ohio?

::

Yeah.

::

Oh, okay.

::

I I didn't this is a this is a reference I don't understand.

::

I am feeling geriatric today.

::

There is so many like, every pop culture reference, I'm like, I don't know what that means.

::

I hope someone else understood that.

::

Yeah.

::

Leave it.

::

Just good night.

::

Well, keep her keep her there.

::

Keep her there.

::

Well, godspeed.

::

Oh, okay.

::

I'm so sorry.

::

Everybody was gonna leave.

::

But real quick, Amanda, who what what cryptid do you think Timothy might be that we've talked about?

::

My guess is

::

I don't know.

::

My look.

::

I think that there is a bald Timothy out there, and that's the Dover demon because he had fingies.

::

Oh, see, I follow a lot of dogs with that same condition that I'm obsessed with.

::

I've seen one of them.

::

I've seen one of them.

::

There's just not enough.

::

There's not enough Jimothy out there.

::

I saw a post before we got on that there could perhaps be two raccoons with that same one, and that there's two Jimmothys, and then they're like, okay, now it's starting to seem like something scary and evil because there's two of them.

::

It's not, but I mean, it was a joke, but yeah, like, that that perhaps there was, like, some weird spill and all the raccoons are turning into Jimothy's.

::

I'm just more like maybe they've just they're they're they're evolving in a different way.

::

Maybe this is how they work now.

::

So I follow a lot of dogs with a lot of strange conditions, and I love them all.

::

I love them all.

::

Unsolved and I have these three.

::

Yeah.

::

Well, I mean, look.

::

You're gonna have to get it as a pillow.

::

Put it on your head.

::

Someone said, play us out mermaid starfish.

::

And, like, look, look.

::

That's what we're gonna do.

::

We're gonna spotlight this bag this this little this little baddie right here.

::

So and with that, have a great week Friday and weekend.

::

Thanks for creeping with us.

::

Good night.

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192. Spooky Travel: The Millennium Biltmore Hotel - Los Angeles
01:12:14
191. The Spanish Inquisition
00:37:33
190. Villisca Investigation (Villisca Axe Murder House)
02:08:37
189. Cryptids: Mongolian Death Worm, Batsquatch, and the Dungavenhooter
00:58:48
188. Malvern Manor: Revisited
00:59:43
187. Appalachian Trail True Crime: Murder of Joel Polson and Kidnapping of Margaret Harritt
01:05:44
186. The Elms Hotel: Paranormal Investigation
01:22:02
185. True Crime Digest 19
00:39:24
184. Mushrooms: History, Folklore, & World Domination
00:56:13
183. The Murder of Judith Barsi
01:01:18
182. Spooky Travel: Hotel Savoy/21C (Kansas City)
00:48:45
181. Abel Clemmens
00:38:51
180. Tulpamancy
00:54:15
179. The Unsolved Murder of Mercedes Vega
01:02:01
178. Cryptids: The Vampire Beast of Bladenboro
00:46:25
177. Tulpas
00:49:38
176. Spooky Travel: Hawthorne Hotel
00:50:33
175. Death by Chocolate
01:08:20
174. The Disappearance of Asha Degree
01:29:05
173. True Crime Digest 18: The Jackson, MS Graveyard; Cecil Hotel; Spiders; and the Disappearances of Daniel Robinson, Kimberly Avila, & Taylor Johnson
00:47:10
172. Appalachia: Flatwoods Monster, Brown Mountain Lights, Trans-Allegheny Lunatic Asylum, & Shades of Death Road
01:11:11
171. The Murders of: Ruth Cooper, Steven Harkins, Diana Robertson, Michael Riemer, Kimberly Diana LaVine, & Edward Smith (Tube Sock Killings)
00:58:46
170. Cryptids: The Hopkinsville Goblins/Kelly Green Men
01:15:47
169. Lava Lake Murders: Ed Nichols, Roy Wilson, and Dewey Morris
00:56:53
169. Peachy Bean at the Windmill (Best of 2023)
00:19:25
168. A Mysterious Compilation
00:23:32
167. Oops! All Tangents!
00:20:05
166. Suspiciously Wooden Snake that Drinks Milk from a Cow's Udder (2023 Best of Episode)
00:25:39
165. Creepy Christmas
01:11:37
164. Urban Legends: The Green Man & Gurdon Lights
00:50:42
163. Spooky Travel: Malvern Manor
00:57:06
162. Chupacabra
01:09:25
161. Halloween Trends & True Crime
00:45:51
160. Tar & Feathered
00:52:15
159. Friday the 13th: Lake Bodom & Peter Moore
00:42:20
158. 3rd Podiversary Episode: Listener Stories
00:59:00
157. Spiders
00:56:59
156. Lavinia Fisher
00:40:33
155. Spooky Travel: Galveston, Texas
00:50:31
154. True Crime Digest 17: Jelani Day; Lori Vallow; Yvonne Pless/ Samuel Little; Naomi Irion; Khadija O / Sharaban K; Taylor Johnson; Kimberly Avila; Dontiasiah Hooper
00:48:47
153. The Story of Terry Jo Duperrault
00:50:39
152. Daniel LaPlante
00:54:27
151. Cryptids: Mogollon Monster and Dogman
00:49:19
150. Fear of Heights
00:38:30
149. Spooky Travel: The Elms Hotel (Kansas City)
00:46:19
148. The Disappearance of Rebecca Coriam
01:02:21
147. Snakes
00:30:43
146. Giggling Granny: Nancy Hazel/Hazle (Nannie Doss)
00:30:30
145. True Crime Digest 16: Dr. John Forsyth; Daniel Robinson; Shopping Cart Killer; West Memphis 3; Lori Vallow/ Chad Daybell Cases; Villisca Axe Murder House
01:08:32
144. Carl Tanzler's Obsession: Elena de Hoyos
00:57:11
143. Haunted Houses: Sales, Stories, and The Ghostbusters Ruling
01:11:09
142. Cryptids: Dover Demon, Snallygaster & Dwayyo
01:08:24
141. Lori Vallow Trial Update: GUILTY (5/1/23-5/12/23)
01:18:46
140. Emo Mozart's journey to Pluckley England: The Monk Next Door (there is no lonely windmill boy)
00:37:41
139. Phone Scams
00:43:34
138. Lori Vallow Trial Update 4/18/23-4/28/23 (Vallow & Daybell Update)
01:00:59
137. Toilet Terrors
00:34:17
136. The Mad Bomber
00:46:27
135. Lori Vallow Trial Update 4/13/23-4/14/23 (Vallow & Daybell Update)
00:42:13
134. Lori Vallow Trial Update 4/12/23 (Vallow & Daybell Update)
00:04:51
133. Lori Vallow Trial Update 4/11/23 (Vallow & Daybell Update)
00:26:41
132. Lori Vallow Trial Update 4/10/23 (Vallow & Daybell Update)
00:16:50
131. Poisonous Queens
01:06:21
130. Vallow & Daybell Update March 2023
00:47:57
129. Overview of the Cases Against Lori Vallow & Chad Daybell - March 2023
00:06:51
128. Strange Medicine
01:01:08
127. Double Trouble
00:44:35
126. The Hauntings of the Crescent Hotel
01:02:04
125. Devil's Road
00:51:42
124. True Crime Digest 15
00:38:03
123. Antarctica
00:50:13
122. The Watcher: John List
00:28:31
121. Mothman: Sightings & Disasters
00:48:04
120. The Watcher: The True Story
01:01:36
119. Paranormal Challenges
01:18:49
118. The Bizarre Murder of Brian Egg
01:01:20
117. Christmas Monsters 3
00:53:12
116. True Creeps Presents: History Detective Podcast's Case 16 Gunnhild Viking Mother of Kings
00:13:39
115. Possible Iowa Serial Killer: The Investigation of Donald Studey
00:38:09
114. 11/11 Spooky Adventures
00:57:42
113. Ed Gein
00:53:12
112. Haunted Dolls 3: haunted vessel, dial masochism, succubus, metaphysical, supernatural gratification
00:27:19
111. The Avril Lavigne Conspiracy (Halloween Shorts)
00:28:18
110. Strange Ways to Die: Sinkholes (Halloween Shorts)
00:18:18
109. The Deadly Pepsi Contest (Halloween Shorts)
00:32:20
108. Untucked Tootsies (Halloween Shorts)
00:25:39
107. A Couple of Curses (Halloween Shortie)
00:21:24
106. Haunted Hotels: Jerome, AZ
00:51:54
105. 2nd Podiversary Episode: Listener Stories
01:05:44
104. Vallow & Daybell Update September 2022
01:23:46
103. Hocus Pocus
01:11:17
102. The Murders of Barbara Raposa, Karen Marsden, & Doreen Levesque (Fall River Cult Killings): Bridgewater Triangle & Satanic Panic III
01:32:58
101. More Haunted Dolls
00:32:32
100. Mothman: Origins
01:05:24
99. Cryptids: Sheepsquatch & The Ozark Howler
00:54:37
98. Stranger Things: Inspiration & History
01:08:14
97. Vallow & Daybell Update August 2022
00:54:19
96. True Crime Digest 14: Daniel Robinson, Jelani Day, West Memphis 3, Hugo Osorio Chavez, Molly Bish, Andrés Mendoza
00:55:43
95. Mayan Legends
00:52:08
94. The Power [St]Ranger Curse: Murder, Fraud, Violence, and Death
01:03:58
93. Lake Lanier
01:09:17
92. The Odd & Outrageous Origins of Children's Stories
00:56:06
91. Deltona Massacre: The murders of Erin Bellanger; Michelle Nathan; Roberto Gonzalez; Anthony Vega; Francisco Ayo-Roman; and Jonathan Gleason
00:57:19
90. Creepy Scientific Discoveries: Sharkcanos, Sinkholes, and Zombies
01:03:21
89. True Crime Digest 13: Daniel Robinson; Joseph Bolduc; Taryn Summers; Jelani Day; Daniel Brophy; Crystal Turner and Kylen Shulte; Michelle Guse, Lori Farmer, and Denise Milner (the Girl Scout Murders); Beth Redmond, Sonya Champ, Stephanie Harrison, and Tonita smith (victims of the Shopping Cart Killer)
00:42:41
88. Multiverse Travel: Vasile Gorgos, Pedro Ramirez & Carol Chase Elheney
01:00:14
87. Spooky Places: Thompson Park, Bodie, & The Island of Dolls
00:54:19
86. Vallow & Daybell Update May 2022
00:40:18
85. Satanic Panic Injustice: The Murders of Steven Branch, Christopher Byers & Michael Moore and the West Memphis Three (Jason Baldwin, Jessie Misskelley, & Damien Echols)
01:05:05
84. Ourang Medan
01:01:37
83. Satanic Panic 101
01:14:16
82. Bridgewater Triangle II: Hockomock Swamp, UFOS, Big Foot & Other Cryptids
00:44:56
81. Vallow & Daybell Update April 2022
00:12:46
80. True Crime Digest 12: Jubi Monsif, Daniel Robinson, Naomi Irion, Dyatlov Pass & Apple Airtags
00:50:02
79. April Fools: Killer Clowns & Pranks
00:58:23
78. Bridge Water Triangle I: History, Haunts & the Horrifying Taunton State Hospital
00:48:45
77. Julie Popovich
01:02:43
76. Ghostly Vengence
00:47:16
75. True Crime Digest 11
00:45:31
74. Shopping Cart Killer: The Murders of Sonya Champ, Tonita Smith, Stephanie Harrison, Cheyenne Brown, & Beth Redmon
00:37:44
73. Blobs
00:49:41
72. The Disappearance of Daniel Robinson
00:39:23
71. Vallow & Daybell Update February 2022
00:42:08
70. True Crime Digest 10
00:22:45
69. The Hotel Del Coronado Mystery
00:52:37
68. The Pine Barrens & The Jersey Devil
00:52:45
67. Vallow & Daybell Update January 2022
01:06:31
66. Doppelgängers
00:57:04
65. Christmas Monsters 2
00:29:22
64. True Crime Digest 9
00:36:08
63. Black Friday
00:56:50
62. Bunny Man
00:38:59
61. Vallow & Daybell Updates
01:09:51
60. True Crime Digest 8
01:23:28
59. Halloween True Crime 2
00:52:31
58. More Ghosts
01:03:47
57. Scream: The True Stories
01:02:01
56. Urban Legends: Loveland Frogman, Chullachaqui, Ningen, and the Crying Boy
00:53:42
55. 1st Podiversary: Spooky Listener Stories
00:57:56
54. Belanglo Forest
00:55:39
53. The Denver Airport Conspiracies
00:59:13
52. Texas Killing Fields: 90's Victims & Killers
01:03:39
51. True Crime Digest 7
01:11:21
50. Mermaids
00:54:52
48. Dybbuk Box: Debunked
00:44:00
47. Friday the 13th
00:58:18
46. True Crime Digest 6
01:00:06
45. Texas Killing Fields: 80's Victims & Killers
00:58:02
44. Urban Legends: The Goatman of Pope Lick Creek, The Ship of Death, The Miniwashitu, and The Walking Man
00:33:53
43. Lori Vallow: Conspiracy Charges for Charles Vallow's Murder
00:57:17
42. Girl Scout Murders
01:03:31
41. True Crime Digest 5
00:52:57
40. Cursed: People
01:15:37
39. Texas Killing Fields: 70's Victims & Killers
00:40:28
38. Creepy Kids
00:46:20
37. True Crime Digest 4
00:16:56
36. Murder Charges Against Lori Vallow Daybell & Chad Daybell
01:05:46
35. The Woods
01:08:03
34. Murderous Marys
01:01:10
33. Brian Shaffer
01:17:57
32. True Crime Digest 3: Derek Chauvin, Linda Stoltzfoos, Lori Vallow Daybell, & Taryn Summers
00:57:30
31. Kendrick Johnson
01:20:20
30. Bloody Mary
01:05:50
29. Samuel Little
00:44:52
28. An Abundance of Skeletons
00:58:51
27. True Crime Digest 2: Kendrick Johnson, Lori Vallow Daybell, & Kay Day
01:11:11
bonus True Crêpes: Tasty Terror
00:14:53
26. Sea Monsters
01:03:24
25. Georgia Guidestones
01:03:47
24. Texas Killing Fields: Unsolved
00:44:17
23. True Crime Digest
01:01:53
22. Crime Fighting Critters
00:38:51
21. Haunted Dolls
00:56:35
20. Sinister Love: Vallow & Daybell
01:35:09
19. Hotels That Kill: Cecil Hotel, H.H. Holmes' Castle, & Hotel San Carlos
01:23:56
18. Ant Hill Kids
00:54:45
17. Texas Killing Fields: Calder Road
00:48:48
16. Bermuda Triangle
01:01:55
15. Where is Lucas Horan?
00:36:54
14. New Year, Same Me: Kenneth McDuff
01:17:18
13. Christmas Monsters
00:41:11
12. Christmas True Crime
00:59:17
11. Zozo and Black Eyed Kids, and Yetis, Oh My!
01:03:54
10. Dyatlov Pass
01:18:39
9. Leonarda Cianciulli
01:06:17
8. Ouija True Crime & Stories
00:51:53
7. Ouija 101
00:52:22
6. Elizabeth Bathory
01:00:27
5. Halloween: History, Myths, & Mischief
01:16:04
4. Halloween True Crime
01:08:19
3. Ghosts
01:03:16
2. Black Forest
00:55:08
1. Villisca Axe Murders
01:10:13
Teaser
00:00:29