In this episode, Blaise shares how losing his father at a young age and years of avoidance led to a pivotal turning point, when entering treatment opened the door to deep self-discovery and healing. He learned the power of turning inward and meeting experience directly, discovering that facing life rather than escaping it gradually restores aliveness and meaning. Blaise discusses his work supporting spiritually curious individuals seeking grounded pathways toward embodiment, agency, intimacy, and lasting transformation.

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Blaise Kennedy is a teacher and guide working at the intersection of embodiment, relational development, and consciousness. He is the creator of Developmental Architecture, an embodied map of growth integrating nervous system capacity, trauma repair, awakening, and relational maturity. Blaise focuses on recreating the conditions that allow insight to stabilize through safety, consistency, slow pacing, and genuine connection.

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Rev. DeeAnne ‘Rose Hope’ Riendeau B.Msc, HADM, PIDP, NLP is a thought leader in spiritual and business development whose mission is to elevate how we think and live. Experiencing a life of chronic illness, and 2 near death experiences, DeeAnne rebounded with 20 years of health education and a diverse health career.

She is known as the modern day Willy Wonka for giving away her company Your Holistic Earth, which is the first holistic health care system of its kind. She is currently the owner of Rose Hope International, in which she helps those who are seeking more joy, love, freedom, and a deeper meaning in life using your souls library also known as the Akashic Records.

She has spoken at Harvard University, appeared on Shaw TV, Global Television, and CTV and has been recognized as a visionary and business leader having been nominated for numerous awards including Alberta Business of Distinction. Along with being an entrepreneur, DeeAnne is a mom of 2 bright kids, publisher, popular speaker and international bestselling author who uses her heart and her head to guide others to create their best life.

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Rev. Rose Hope: Our guest today is Blaise Kennedy. Blaise is a teacher and guide working at the intersection of embodiment, relational development and consciousness. He supports growth oriented people who are spiritually curious, emotionally honest and are ready for change that shows up in daily life, not only in meditation. His work was shaped by a turning point at age 24 when he entered recovery and began a serious path of self inquiry, healing and integration. This led to the creation of developmental architecture, a staged, embodied map of growth that weaves together awakening nervous system capacity, trauma repair and relational maturity into a single developmental process. Rather than chasing peak experiences, Blaisee focuses on recreating the conditions that allow insight to stabilize, safety, consistency, slow, pacing and genuine connection. People come to his work when they feel stuck in between awareness and embodiment and want grounded pathways towards agency, intimacy and lasting transformation. Please sit back and enjoy our guests today. Welcome everyone. It's another edition of When Spirit calls. I'm so happy to be with you again, and today I have a very intriguing guest. I cannot wait to get to know our guests today. Blaise is in the house. Hello, Blaise.

Hi. Thanks for having me excited to be here.

Rev. Rose Hope: I'm so psyched that you're here, and I'm so excited to get to know you in your story. I've read a little bit about you, but this is actually our first time actually connecting or meeting, if you will, and so I can't wait to dive in. So you're doing some really incredible things in the world right now. But of course, there's a story behind it, as there is with every one of our guests, and I want to start us off by getting to know you a little bit better. Would you give us the backstory for Blaise and who you are?

Yeah, thank you for the opportunity. I always wanted to do incredible things in the world growing up that was a big part of the context of my life. And I am Canadian kid, and I would watch hockey players, I would watch great movies, I would read books, and I would talk about all these things often with my father, and I just dreamed of excellence. And then what happens is, as you grow older, supposed to produce or turn into something. And I really struggled to make the transition from kind of dreaming about life and playing as children do to creating or manifesting my life. And one thing in particular happened when I was 12 years old, my father died, who was sort of up until that point, my best kind of friend in life, and I had no skills or context for how to be with that I didn't have a strategy, or I didn't really even know what had happened to me, and the older I got, the further I fell behind. And so my pain as a teenager and adolescent as a young person was really the gap between what I wanted to be and what actually was. And I think I went to every parent teacher conference for my entire school career, and the conversation was the same. It was, you know, Blaze could do anything he wants, but he's not doing anything what's wrong? And I didn't have skills. I wasn't ready to take on the challenge. I didn't know what I was going to have to do to get better, and I just learned how to ease the pain, often by doing drugs or by being very avoidant. And I got in more and more trouble, progressively, the worse it got, the more I wanted to avoid in life, right? So when I was when I was 24 I got sent to a treatment center for drug addiction. That was my sort of rock bottom. And I remember when I was driving to the treatment center, I thought to myself, you know, I have wasted my whole life, and I'm not doing it, whatever I'm supposed to be doing, whatever life is supposed to be. I'm not doing it. I don't know how to do it. And I was really

grateful for the opportunity to go to treatment, and the moment I stepped in the doors of treatment, I realized I headed backwards. I realized this wasn't the end of my life. This was the very beginning. And slowly but surely, I realized that there was a path for me. I was laid out step by step. It was laid out progressively for me, and I. I was able to turn my life around, but the title of your podcast is really wonderful. Answering the call. My call came because first, nothing was working, and that bell just got louder and louder and louder. But as soon as I was ready again, I was 24 lots of time where it wasn't working or changing as soon as it was ready, I realized there was a there was a direction. And you know, I've had so many wonderful things happen to me in the past, whatever that is, 15 years, but getting back my work ethic, my direction, my sense of purpose, my ability to do the work that is the greatest gift I've ever had. So it's, you know, you can put my life in two chapters or three chapters before and after I went to treatment, totally different lives.

Rev. Rose Hope: Wow, I love hearing this from you, because I think a lot of people struggle with the gap. You talked about the gap of, okay, I wanted to be this thing, but I'm not the thing that I thought that I was going to be, or thought I should be. And there's a space there, right, of like, okay, what am I supposed to do? You know, and I've been seeing a lot of people come to me and they're like, they're not who they used to be, but they're not yet who they are becoming, and they're in this, like, in between kind of space. And it sounds to me like you going for treatment was kind of what opened things up to say, Wait a second. Maybe the gaps not as big as it seems, or maybe I can, maybe I can step into the person I know I am.

What I didn't know for the first 24 years of my life is that you source your intelligence, your purpose, your direction, you actually source that from inside yourself. And it's a super cliche, you know, if you want an answer, you look inside yourself, yeah, but I had no concept of that. I had no reflection in my life of people doing that. I was absent. I was ignorant to this most important thing. So what I would look to do things in the world or improve my life, or I looked at what was happening around me, and I kind of copied or tried to imitate that, but I didn't ever reflect on like, who am I? What am I? How do I work? How does this thing work? And what changed is in treatment, they basically say you need to look at yourself. And I had never done this. If I look at what my life looked like before, it was the avoidance of looking inside. I just never occurred to me that you could do that. And as soon as I was pointed in that direction, he a very bright light bulb went off, and I realized several things. One, like, of course, like, if you're not connected to yourself, how could you possibly be successful, it just seemed like the most obvious thing in the world. But more importantly, I think, is I liked it like self discovery was the first time in my life where I had something to do that I was intrinsically motivated by. Like it just fascinated me, and I realized that all the other things that I wanted to be, I wanted to master something superficial, outside of myself, none of those are very meaningful. What I realized is, if you want to be you, you don't have any competition, you don't have any barriers. There's no being you if that's your sport, if that's your pursuit, like there's really nothing that can get in your way. I felt extremely empowered and you know, and I was in a group of people who had all kinds of difficult life experiences, and I realized that it doesn't actually matter what you're experiencing. It matters whether

you're willing to experience it or not. That's the basic principle. If you are willing to be where you are, you win in this game of life. If you are not willing to be where you are, you lose. That's the basic principle, and it's so blue collar. When you're an addict, it's so blue collar. Like the difference between facing yourself and leaving yourself is so dramatic and the consequences are so high. But this basic principle was just so simple. All you have to do, all I have to do is actually just be with me. That's really easy. I just discovered for me that was the easiest thing in the world. Wow. And I was really happy, like, genuinely. There were people in treatment who kept saying, like, you know, this isn't the real world. I got to get back to my life. And I thought, I don't, I don't have a life, you know, like I there's nothing going on in the world for me. This is it. I found it. And as difficult as it is to face yourself and feel, yeah, I was I found my sport, you know, I found my my pursuit, my pleasure. I. Just loved it.

Rev. Rose Hope: I love that we're having this conversation, because what I heard you say is that you gave yourself permission just to be you and to be with yourself as you and I think a lot of us avoid that.

Well, there's lots of good reasons to avoid it, but the other thing I would add is that I was in a community that I got a lot of positive feedback for doing it. This is a really important piece is, and part of what I create in the world now is when people see you being honest and vulnerable, they respond people who have people who are also doing the same thing. They're inspired by it. They're motivated by it. They like you more. They move closer to you. They feel more connected to you. They share more with you. Then I sort of realized actually, this is how you make friends. Never thought about that. I thought you made friends by saying funny things and, you know, like it just these are the most basic principles of being a human being, the your vulnerable truth is what attracts you to people, your reality, what's actually true for you? To attract me? Yeah. So I found like I had this currency. The more I did this, the more the world responded positively. So, you know, I think before that, I didn't have that experience again, when I look at around it, our culture and as our world. As a kid, I didn't see people being vulnerable, getting rewarded for that. So there's not a lot of emotional literacy or capacity in our culture, and I certainly didn't have any. So it wasn't until I kind of was in a community of people that that build each other up for this, that I realized, hey, you know, I'm actually I feel good about myself. I feel I like I'm good. I'm doing a good job, and people like me, and it was very, very meaningful to me to be supported by other people. So yeah, avoiding myself was was one way of life, and I always like to maybe people didn't grow up watching Seinfeld, but there was this one premise where George Costanza said everything he'd ever done was wrong, and it was suggested to him, if he just did the opposite, everything would work out. And the rest of the episode is him just doing the opposite. It was literally that for me,

I was thinking, you know, if I've been avoiding myself and afraid of feeling and afraid of emotions and afraid of the truth and afraid of being, what if I just did the opposite of that, what would the result be? I think that's the more that I did that the more that things opened up for me. And I just kept being like, well, how, how far can you take this? Like, what? Where? If you walk through the sore over and over and over again, where does it take you? And I just decided that's what I was going to do with my life. Wow. So again, at 24 I walked in feeling like my life was over and I'd screwed up, and I walked out feeling like I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be. I have a direction, you know, I don't really know where it goes. I have a minimal skills. I'm vague about a lot of things in spirituality and personal development, but at least I'm I feel for the first time in my life like I'm going where I need to be going, and then I just again, we can talk about the details with the next 15 years of my life. Was me just doing that full time as I could possibly do it.

Rev. Rose Hope: So I love this for a lot of reasons, and I just want to highlight a couple more things before we kind of move on to this, this next phase of your life. But, you know, I think it's so important. You know, you talked about, you know, winning in life when our goal is to have an experience. And I think there's a quote like that, like, we're always winning in life when our goal is to actually just have an experience. Isn't that wonderful? And that's what you spoke to. You're like, No, I'm gonna win because I'm just, I'm just having experience, right? We're not going to judge the experience. We're just going to have an experience. If our goal is to have a certain achievement of that experience, well, then oftentimes we suffer, because suffering happens when we're not getting what we think we should be getting, whereas if we if we're just here to have an experience, it doesn't matter if the experience can be perceived as good, bad, or otherwise, we're getting the experience. And so I wanted to bring that to the surface for people, because I think it's so easy for us to get caught up in these expectations, and then we suffer, and then we feel this disappointment, but we are winning when our goal is to have an experience.

I'll add to that. I'll build on what you've said, which is taking drugs is also a strategy to have experiences, and when you take drugs, very true, what happens is, the more you do drugs, the less you feel. It's like borrowing money. You go into debt. So after years of doing drugs, drugs don't make you happy. You don't feel very alive, you're numb. It progressively gets worse. So what I realized was that feeling, being present, all the things we're talking about, is the opposite. So yes, it might not feel good in the moment to feel angry or sad or shame or all these whatever the positive or negative feeling is. What happens is over time. Time, you become more and more alive progressively. So it's not just about the feeling that you're having today that's going to move shame you feel sadness today, but over time, the present moment, just whatever is happening gets richer and richer and richer and richer. It's the opposite of what I was used to doing drugs. And so I realized, like, no matter what is happening today, if I'm just willing to face it or even move towards it actively, as I did, it's just going to get more and more. Like the experience, the ordinary experience of being, is going to get richer. And so the happiness becomes more implicit in just the experience of being alive. You know, when I was, when I was a teenager, I was especially because of the passing of my father and the way that I handled or dealt with it, the trauma of it, I couldn't feel anything. I just life was not very satisfying intrinsically. And so it was just such a breath of fresh air to just feel more and more alive and to feel like I have some control over this. I actually have a say in how I and how alive I am, and all I have to do is not try to minimize pain and maximize pleasure. That's the only rule, if I just indiscriminately welcome every part of life I'm going to in the long term, I'm just going to get more and more alive. And that became,

that's sort of a thing that I was doing. If you ask me what I was doing, I'm doing that, and I don't know where I didn't know where it went, or what I was going to get out of it.

Rev. Rose Hope: I think it's brilliant, and I think it's a reminder for all of us, because so many of us are so distracted and so much caught in this escapism and this addiction. And I'm talking addiction of phones, TV, sugar, like all the other addictions too. We have been, you know, bombarded with all of this. And so people are getting caught up in this escaping, this disconnecting, this numbing, and they're wondering, what, how come I feel dead inside right? And you just spoke to that so beautifully in that willingness to feel, the willingness to not avoid right, the opposite of avoiding right and and I think that if we all did a little bit more of that, and we were willing to be with our feelings and be present with that, I really feel like we would make we would move mountains here. So I think it's so important that you speak to that. And thank you for sharing that. I do want to just for a moment acknowledge this loss of your father, and ask a couple questions, if that's okay, absolutely. You know, 12 is a very vulnerable age. My son is 12 right now, you know. And so I already I'm imagining, you know, what that experience would be for him and and so I'm curious to know, what is your relationship with your dad now, do you still have a relationship with Dad? Do you feel like dad was the reason why you, you know, maybe went into into rehab, or, you know, what does that look like for you?

Yeah, I mean, it's a big question. I could probably talk for a long time about it. The first thing that I realized along the journey was that the reason that you So first, I didn't feel I didn't grieve at all. I was not able to do that as a child. I tried to move on. If you'd asked me as a teenager, I would have said, you know, I got over that. And then I realized that there's really no such thing as that. And I realized that because when I was in treatment, they had me write a letter to my father, and I remember feeling when I read it like I was 12 years old. I remember being shocked thinking, how can my body be storing emotion from the past? How can I be feeling 12 that doesn't doesn't fit with my experience of what reality is, wow. So I learned, I learned to grieve. And the basic thing that I learned is the reason that you feel sad about losing people is because you love. That's the basic reason. And if you're willing to feel sad, then you get to have the love, and moreover, you get to live in a dimension of consciousness, you get to live in a part of yourself where love pervades reality. Love connection is ever present. Yeah, and so it's kind of paradoxical. You think I'm letting go of this person, I'm saying goodbye, I'm feeling the loss, and the result is that they are with you forever. They are literally part of you. They are part of this fabric of reality made out of energy and light which pervades your body, which your body is a part of, which pervades the universe. So you go through this very painful door, and if you're willing to go through the door on the other side is a totally different. Experience of what reality is, what it is to be born, what it is to die, what it is to be connected to people. And again, this was so intrinsically interesting and meaningful to me, I just stopped caring if there were times in which it meant that I had to feel pain or hurt. So today, you know, sometimes I things happen in my life

where I, you know, I'd like to tell my father something, or I'd like him to, I think, oh, he'd really love my, one of my daughters in particular. And like, he'd really, he'd really get a kick out of her. But like, if I go inside, it's like he's what is essential about him is with me all the time forever, and that is extended beyond my father to, you know, to all ancestors and all the people. I mean, if we talk later about what I do, I'm really big on the fact that consciousness is basically a field of interrelatedness that we can we can access and be woven into. We can feel ourselves woven into this giant interrelatedness of consciousness in life, and I actively have just woven myself into this over and over and over again. So there's really no one, no person that I feel like I can't be connected to or I can't get access to, yeah, so yeah, that's that'll be my answer for now.

Rev. Rose Hope: It's a brilliant answer. I loved it. Loved every second. Thank you so much for for your willingness to open that up and to share with our group.

If I can, I would also just add to this that what I realized through this process is what I was experiencing, what I had experienced was trauma, and I had that word didn't exist in my world, right? Nobody in my world knew that that had happened to me or knew that that had happened to them. It was not a word in our culture when I was a kid, yeah, and I realized, like, there's like this layer, you said, move mountains, there's like this layer of frozen experience that separates me from having all of these meaningful, beautiful, fancy experiences. And you know, now today I help people that's the mountain that we really have to move is frozen, frozen experience to the reason why people feel primarily like physical objects, and wonder what happens when we die, wonder what the nature of reality is, and wonder what happened to their parents and so on, and that all can be melted. It's just melted by feeling. It's melted by being willing to feel.

Rev. Rose Hope: I love that analogy, please. I think that's fantastic, because it's a reminder for us, that we can melt away all those obstacle crunchy parts you know that maybe are holding us back or causing, you know, us to be kind of stuck in these cyclical patterns. So let's talk about now what has arisen from your life experiences, because now you're helping other people in understanding some of these concepts that we've been talking about. So can you tell us, kind of like fast forward to doing now, and I also, I want to pick your brain a little bit about what are the kind of core things that you also wish that you knew back then.

Well, I'll start by saying, you know, so I leave, I'll give a little bridge by going, you know, I leave treatment, and I pretty quickly realized, you know, being in AA and NA and working through recovery is not my path. And I had this really crazy series of experiences where I had a very strong spiritual awakening. I met my wife, and she brought with me several spiritual teachers. What I found very quickly is that there are several different things in spirituality, which people so aspects of spirituality, which people offer, and one would be non duality and the singular nature of reality and the search, the quest for enlightenment and liberation. And I was like, oh, I want that that appeals to me. Then other is this trauma healing stuff and the recognition of the the for me, the frozen development of my childhood and the need to become an adult, essentially to go back into my life and feel all of the parts of my developmental process that were incomplete, so I could be the highest potential of me. And the third thing, then, there are all these sort of fancy cosmic you used the word woo, woo earlier, but there are all these, like, really fancy things that happen in the universe or in the history of the earth. And I was like, gee whiz, I want that too. And what I found is most spiritual teachers would only offer kind of a slice of the pie. And so for a long time, I just went from, I kind of had to piecemeal together the whole thing from many different teachings. So I, you know, I had a teacher that was grounded in Buddhism, and you know, his teachings were extremely helpful. I met another teacher named Thomas, who. Bull, whose ability to understand interrelatedness, to see through the transparency of consciousness and to support healing, blew my mind. And I can't quite say how the third one initially, that was kind of vague the higher dimensions, anyway. So I I worked under these teachings for a long time. I spent a lot of

time meditating. I spent a lot of time in therapy and other therapeutic modalities. And I was really, really motivated to, you know, I started out with, kind of with nothing like a sort of blank slate. I had to figure out how to make my relationship work. I wanted to have children. I wanted my children to be well. I wanted to explore the universe. I wanted to know the nature of reality and arrive at the sort of singular truth. And long story short, I through diligence, I got everything that I was looking for. And so at some point, I was pretty aware that, like, I'm not only doing this for me, this is what I'm gonna do for career. At some point, some point. And about five years ago, I started teaching. And remember the first time I ever wanted to teach. I went to a yoga studio and in Nelson, and I said I'd like to teach meditation. Nelson's where I live, and they said, greed, tell us about your approach to meditation. And I went to speak, and no words came out of my mouth. And I was really shocked. I thought, if I have all this experience and all of this knowledge, how do I not know how to teach? And I realized, well, because you've never taught before, and you're not a teacher, you're a person who has had experience. So I've been trained as a as a somatic therapist at the time, and I I felt very fortunate that I got to start to work with people. I got to people. Whatever it is that I was saying was meaningful enough to people that they started to work with me. And I spent the last five years listening and learning by being with people. So I sit with people all the time, just like I'm sitting with you, and I just listen and I learn, and what I use my tool set is that my development gives me a lot of access into consciousness and so that I can feel what's happening in you and through you, because my body and my Consciousness have developed to do so this is a fundamental reality, is that consciousness is transparent. The it's not physical. It's

transparent. The substance of it is love, light and space. It's not a solid object. So you can feel through it all the time. So for the last five years, I've been sitting with people, working with them, listening and figuring out, like, how, how am I going to help people? Like, what do I have to offer? What is my way? And I've arrived essentially at the same three things that I talked about, I want I offer as programs. And the first is that, whether we call it our chakra system or our nervous system, our developmental process from the time that we were born into the time that we become adults can be actively supported, meaning that just because I'm 20 years old, or when I went to treatment, just because I'm 24 years old does not mean that the development of my body happened consciously, and that I am that my body is alive and that all the different parts of my body consciousness are working together. And so I help people. This is, you know, traditional to somatic therapy and to attachment theory. I help people to complete that process. So, you know, if you for example, just a really common example, you have chaos in your household, in the base of your body, you will notice often that you compensate for that, you may leave the base of your body where there's a lot of contraction you do not feel safe. People who don't grow up in safety don't feel safe. So what I help people to do is feel the past and then create the ideal condition. So no matter what you experience, developmentally, your body can be an expression of your highest potential. So that's again, learning how to navigate that your your body kind of works like a like a tree or like a building. All levels of your life who are present at the same time, like the past is not gone, and that you can actively work on that structure by feeling, essentially feeling and relating to other people, because that's the design of human beings. This is one kind of dimension. And, you know, I work with a lot

of people who are therapists or coaches, or we can get better at our skills, but also become more integrated. And many of the things you're talking about, like phone addiction or I have all these behaviors. I don't know why I do them, you know, I I'm reactive like, you know, I challenge this to my children. A lot of these get resolved just by learning how to work through all the frozen stock energy that's about. Right? The second thing that I help people to do is it became, at some point, super fascinated with the process of incarnating, and we can call it a soul. I tend not to talk about it as a soul. It is a stream of light that enters the world through us, and the more that I turn my attention to that it sounds like a like the soul is like an object, like, right? Like it, just to, I don't know, like a simple object, but it's a magnificent, never ending pool of intelligence and value. Like it, yes, it's an endless discovery of how the the potential and experience of the universe flows in through you. And as sort of as a model when, if you were born in Tibet and you were recognized as a lama, what they would do strategically as a civilization is they would try to get your light, which is experience and potential and high frequency consciousness, they would try to get that into you and into the world as much as possible. In our culture, we don't actively try to do that. That's not in our social contract. That's not in a parent's understanding of what they're having children. But what I do is I help groups of people, I have people and groups of people progressively recognize their light and embody it. Just because you are here doesn't mean that that light is actually present in your life and your consciousness. It can be very much just like trauma numbs and freezes energy, this can become obscured. So I want people to have as much access to that. I want the world to have access to that. And then the third thing is to know the singular nature of reality.

These are all processes. Growing up is a process, incarnating is a process, and the universe is itself as a process. And so the third thing that I teach about is how to feel consciousness is a singular thing, and to recognize the self, which is beyond all experience, just the traditional path to the absolute or liberation. And again, that's a lot, so I teach it progressively in courses. But I think I want people to have everything. And you know, many spiritual teachings say you're going to be happy if you get one of these things, or affair people say you're going to get happy if you just work on your childhood, or if you just are able to manifest your pension, or you just know the nature of reality, you're going to be happy. And in my experience, life is meant to be to have everything. It's one thing, all of it, and I'm trying to get as much of that to the people I work with as possible. I love every day I work with people and groups and we, you know, I'm learning how to do this progressively. We start where we start, and we just go deeper into it and deeper into it and deeper into it.

Rev. Rose Hope: I love how you explained kind of the the work that you do, and it sounds to me like you're really wanting to create, like, that smorgasbord, you know, I think I'm going to Bonanza as a kid, and you'd have all the food options, and you'd be able to take everything that you wanted. And, you know, I feel like part of your experience was like, Oh, well, there's that, and there's that, and there's that, and I'm going to bring it all together and make this a very holistic kind of experience for people.

And just to add to I just add two things to it briefly. One is that what gives me great joy is if you were able to progressively, have people go more progressively into their body, essentially, yeah, there's nothing that ordinary people cannot access. Yeah. The consciousness in the world is changing so much so that all the experiences I'm talking about and beyond are accessible to anyone who is willing to show up for it. And if you do it as a progression, then people don't get in and over their heads. People don't get confused. You guide them gently. This is my job as a teacher, to guide people so they have success after success after success. They can feel how all the pieces work together, and they can learn how not to bypass any part of their development in life. They can learn how it all works together, and then they can navigate it intelligently. And then the second thing is, I do this through groups that work together, so I teach people relational skills, just like I learned when I was in treatment, yeah, create, you know, collective fields of consciousness, essentially. And so these two things, again, if you give people a progression that they can be super successful on you watch everybody, everybody has breakthroughs. Essentially, it wasn't like that traditionally on this earth, very, very few people had sort of spiritual insight. The good news is today is that anybody who's motivated can have breakthroughs with the right guidance and orientation, and that when we all do that together, we create these very, very powerful fields that feels like you live in a different world, right?

Rev. Rose Hope: Ah, it's amazing. Okay, what do you need people to know? So I want to know, you know, what are the things you wish you knew that have changed everything for you? And I know you dropped to keep a few seeds already, so you can certainly go back and recap some of the things. But yeah, you know, I really want our audience to be like, okay, so yeah, there's all these paths, and what do I need to know about my next step? So what do you want to share?

Yeah, well, I'll start with one very important thing that I end up telling people over and over and over again, which is all of these processes that I describe, all of these facets of healing and awakening. Are they come out of the interrelatedness of consciousness. Consciousness is like a giant internet. You could think about it like, like a giant field of information or field of intelligence. And the way that many people approach this is as a personal journey. And so meditation essentially sets us up for a personal orientation, I recommend a relational path. The best way to leverage your gifts and abilities is to be in relationship with other people who have gifts and abilities and to leverage them together. This is not to be done by yourself. I see no advantage in that even if you have a lot of gifts and ability, and you had a spiritual awakening, and you're very capable being with other people who are supportive. Only is going to support that to grow, and it's going to it's going to support their growth. Like this thing is designed to work together. We are by design to work together. We are the same thing moving in the same direction together, and the more that we can work together, the better it is for everybody. So this is the message that I give over and over and over again. If you have if you have skills and gifts, great, if you feel really confident, great. Let's work on that together. If you're having challenges, great. Let's work on that together. Yeah, there's no there's only advantage when you find yourself coming together with other people who can support this collective action that is called awakening. So that's the main thing. And so where I where I start people, is like to do that, to be together, we have to, there's kind of like a fundamental language that we have to learn of how to actually be and feel together. And that's where I start. Pretty much everybody

Rev. Rose Hope: love it. I think that's such that's

my basic message for now is, and to say that in these groups or in these fields, you become, just as I described it for myself, in treatment, you become like a gift to the world and to all the other people in this group. It's a completely mutually beneficial relationship. So you are needed. You are needed by other people, and other people are needed by you, and the more that we embrace and lean into that, the better. So when it comes to my work, I'm looking for people, because every single person who comes into my life and into my world and into my community enriches it, no matter what they're bringing, no matter how who they are.

Rev. Rose Hope: Did you all hear that everybody we you are needed. We are needed. You know, this reminds me of the Ubuntu philosophy from the Zulu tribe, right? I am because we are right, right? And so I love that you're tuned into this and this relational experience. Because I think a lot of people are like, No, I need to, I need to go and do it on my own, right. And there's so much of that separateness of like, I got to do it on my own. But we can go so much faster and so much farther when we are really working in Unity together.

There was a time in which people had computers that they didn't plug into the Internet. Today, no one would disconnect their computer from the internet anymore. Why? Because when you connect your computer the internet, you get access to everything. And what is the internet? It's just an agreement that we're all going to put our computers on the same network. That's what it is. So essentially, what I'm talking about is a consciousness equivalent of this. Everything goes faster. You have access to more information. Everyone benefits, because we all contribute to this one field that we share.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah, I love that, that unity consciousness. Love that place that's amazing. Ah, well, I know time is going by really fast. So is there anything else and you really want to get out of your system before we kind of tell people how they can meet with you? Is there anything else that you know we didn't cover that you wanted to pull out in terms of value for our audience?

I think the last thing that I would say is I'm expecting in intense, radical change in our world, and I'm just inviting you to notice and embrace how that shows up in your life. Awakening is not a comfortable process. It doesn't flatter you necessarily. And so this is another reason to be together. Is because there's so many parts of this that are challenging, and when you share them with other people who are also going on, that challenge which you have is sort of mutual inspiration. So sometimes it's hard to embrace things in your life, in your own Yeah, and just to share, like, whatever challenges you're having, whatever you're seeing in the world, these are all signs that things are changing rapidly.

Rev. Rose Hope: Isn't it so true? You know, we are in this massive awakening that's been a continuation on even from the last several years, and we continue to see these massive shifts in us as human beings. And you know, you talked about this inward journey and not even realizing, like, oh, oh, there is something to that you know. And I think a lot of us miss that we don't know what we don't know. And so I hope all of you listening that you know something you didn't know before. Now, Blaze, this has been a real treat. So I know you have something in store extra special for our listeners, and we're going to put a link in the show notes. Do you want to tell people what that people what that is about?

Yeah, I just would love to share there's lots of different ways to engage with my work, from the content that I make, the meditations that I host, the groups that I describe that are progressive retreats that I run. And if you're interested in knowing more about this, just look in the show notes. I'll put a special link for this podcast in there, and you can get in touch with me, see what I'm up to.

Rev. Rose Hope: Wonderful. Thank you, Blaise, so much for taking time out of your schedule to be with us and to share a bit of your story. It has been a real pleasure and honor and and I got some I got some golden nuggets and some good reminders out of that too. So thank you. Thank you for your wisdom and for your sharing. So deeply appreciate it and for all of you listening. Thank you so much for tuning in to another edition of When Spirit calls until next time. Be Well, everybody. Bye, bye.

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