In one of the most raw and revealing conversations to date, Pastor Mike Signorelli sits down with Richard Matthews, Angela Scafidi, and Naela Rose—three bold voices who walked away from the New Age, witchcraft, and the LGBTQ lifestyle to follow Jesus Christ.

These aren't just stories of leaving something behind. They're testimonies of radical transformation, deliverance, and identity restored through the power of the Gospel.

What happens when:

• A blood witch encounters the blood of Jesus?
• A New Age guru surrenders to the true God?
• Someone who thought they knew who they were hears their Father say, “This is my beloved child in whom I am well pleased”?

🔥 You’re about to hear first-hand accounts of demonic deception, spiritual warfare, and the unmatched love of the Father that breaks every chain.

• Why witchcraft works—and why it ultimately enslaves you
• How blood rituals are a counterfeit of the cross
• Why the New Age movement and LGBT ideology both sell false identities
• What it means to truly inherit your identity through Christ, not invent one
• How joy, freedom, and peace follow surrender to Jesus

💥 These are not just stories—they’re spiritual warfare blueprints and proof of revival in a generation desperate for truth.

👇 Subscribe to their channels below!

• Richard’s Channel @richwithpassion
• Angela’s Channel @heavenandhealingpodcast
• Naela’s Channel @naelarose

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Hey, I'm so excited for you to join this conversation.

We are going to be talking about blood covenants, witchcraft, I mean, sexuality.

I don't know what we're going to get into, but I've got some really incredible friends here.

Would you all be willing to go around and give an introduction?

You want to start?

I'll start.

Hi, guys.

That's not my camera.

Love that.

For me, I'm Richard, AKA Richie Rich.

Rg, rj.

All the things.

Son of God redeemed by the blood of the lamb.

And I have a YouTube channel podcast called Redemption and came out of the lifestyle denouncing LGBTQ and all the things.

And I'm married to Jesus.

And that's it.

Praise God.

I'll toss it over to you, Angela.

Okay, great.

The holy baton.

I'm Angela Scafidi, host of Heaven and Healing podcast.

You can find that on YouTube.

I am an ex New Ager now, a daughter of the most high king, period.

Amen.

Period.

I love how professional we all are.

Camera one, I'm Nayla Rose.

I'm an ex blood witch and I was saved and redeemed by Jesus.

I had a radical encounter with him face to face.

He transformed me and I am a born again child of God.

Amen.

There's so much joy.

You know, it's not happiness because the world has happiness, but I just.

There's joy.

You do too?

Yeah.

I'm always like, no, happiness is candy floss.

It's like the counterfeit of joy because happiness is this and then joy is forever.

Yeah, that's it.

I would say, like, happiness is synthetic, you know, like, there's a lot of enjoyment and synthetic things like that candy floss stuff.

Like synthetic clothes are fine, but it's not the real thing.

Like, you have something that's authentic, organic.

It has, like, depth and quality and power, and it's just.

Yeah, I feel that.

It's like what they said in acts when Peter and them, after they got dosed with the Holy Spirit, they were like, oh, you're drunk.

And you're like, I'm not drunk.

I have the Holy Spirit.

Imagine me being drunk.

Crazy, you know, imagine being on crazy.

Because, like, you each individually have your own lives with your own difficulties, but there's such a joy that came out of you.

And, you know, just you.

You kind of started with your story and we ended with you.

And you.

You literally said just.

And I like how she said it was my ex blood witch.

And like, you.

You, like, smiled through it.

But God, God has done Something so special in your life.

And I feel like me and you getting together was a long time coming as well.

Would you mind sharing a little bit more in depth about that?

Because I want to.

I want to talk about it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's really incredible.

I mean, we were all about how you get such a revelation of what God redeemed you from.

He is the God of redemption.

Whatever you were in, he.

He just transforms and then redeems that curse story.

And so for me, I was a blood witch.

And I can say that with a smile now because I'm just overflowing with joy and gratitude that he saved me out of that.

But I didn't realize exactly how dark and demonic what I was doing was.

But essentially, I was obsessed with blood.

I mean, I was doing witchcraft and magic and spells with blood daily.

And that was.

And because I was so obsessed with blood and the power of the blood, because there is power in the blood.

I was using the power that God put in blood.

Like God says that the.

The power of the flesh, the life of the flesh is in the blood.

Right.

So I utilized that power like the devil hijacks the power of God all the time to try and pervert it, distort it.

And I became powerful.

I could manifest anything I wanted.

I manifest my relationship with my ex, I manifest my house.

I manifested the money I wanted, all using blood spells, like very basic, classic, traditional witchcraft.

But I went really deep, and Jesus saved me from that and gave me a profoundly deep revelation of the blood of Jesus, because that is the true power.

There is nothing more powerful than the blood of Christ.

But you can do, like, low kind of crime.

If you work with the devil in blood, you can still make things happen, but of course you pay with your soul.

And so when Jesus saved me, he gave me such a profound revelation of the blood of Jesus because I had been so obsessed with blood in the occult.

Wow.

I don't know if I know this, but how did you find out about that?

You know what I mean?

Was it just things you were exposed to on the Internet?

How did I find out about blood magic?

Yeah.

Oh, my goodness.

I mean, I was raised in the occult, so I was born and raised in the occult, and everyone I knew and grew up with was a witch.

All of my.

My, like, peers and all of my friends, parents.

My own mother is a Reiki practitioner.

And so I grew up in this bubble where I was not exposed to the Gospel.

I never heard about Jesus.

I never heard about anything to do with Christianity, never Seen a Bible in my life, like, just totally enclosed in occultism.

So I didn't really have to sort of find out about these things.

This was part of my childhood.

I was always involved in ritualistic magic, elemental magic.

From a young age, I started using fire, wind, water, earth to do elemental magic, which is just a very simplistic and ancient way to open the spiritual realm.

The Native Americans used to do that.

I mean, they still do, I guess.

You can use elements of God's creation to open portals into the spirit realm.

So because that was my foundation.

I'd been doing that since I could remember when it came to the blood.

Like a revelation of how there's a demonic revelation, a counterfeit revelation of the blood in the New Age, which is we were both exposed to, which is based around womb magic and the Goddess worship that we see in the occult.

So the idea is that a woman's womb creates life.

It's a portal, and therefore there's power in that.

So while that is partly true, the Devil always gives you 90% truth, 10% lie.

Like that is true.

God has chosen to use a woman's womb as a portal for human life.

He a soul from heaven into a woman's womb, and then she births.

I mean, it is a portal, so there's truth in it.

But what the Devil's done is he's had women in the New Age, like me, become obsessed with the creative power within the blood of a woman's menstruation.

So menstrual blood.

And so there's a whole movement called womb work and womb wisdom in the New Age, where women like me and Angela, who were yoga teachers and who worshiped the Goddess and the creation and the stars and, you know, just misplaced worship and devot.

The devil has used that to make these women obsessed with blood.

So we use our blood, or I used my blood to literally open a portal into the spirit realm.

I used to do lots of different things, but the main thing I would do is actually cover my whole body and my blood, anoint my house with my blood.

I would feed my blood to my plants.

I would, like, write out a spell and then cover the page in my blood, like writing in my blood, anointing papers with my blood.

I would also dry my blood into discs and then burn it as a burnt offering.

The altar that I had in my room.

And I would make sacrifices to idols, to pagan deities, Hindu deities, and I would always get whatever I prayed for because there's power in the blood.

I did love spells.

I Mean, it's an offering.

It's a burnt offering and a blood offering.

So it's like.

Yeah, I got into it just by being raised up in a culture of worshiping the creation and worshiping the self and wanting to ascend and become awakened through your own spiritual endeavors without Jesus.

Wow.

Can I.

This is the first time I've made this connection about, seriously, this is revelation.

This is revelation.

It's been happening all time, real time revelation.

So I was thinking about how in our, like, with the moon stuff that I was really into with the astrology and I had like these full moon and new moon rituals, there was like that encouragement, like you can like collect your menstrual blood in like a little vial and you can put it in the ground, in the earth, underneath the moon.

And I was thinking about all the stuff I used to do, like ritualistically, never did that.

Praise the Lord.

However, something I used to do because you just said it's an offering, not just blood, but with fire.

So with those how I told you in our interview with the full moon, it was always about release.

We would literally write things on paper and then burn it in the middle of our moon circle.

And I'm thinking to myself, wow, I'm literally writing, I release my depression and I'm giving it to the devil.

I'm literally burning, burning the release of my depression to Satan.

And then guess what he did with it made me more depressed.

And I came into agreement with those spirits of depression and anxiety and they actually consumed me.

Yeah, because there's real.

You see how the devil always distorts what God has made.

So God instituted sacrifice for sin.

We see in the Old Testament, the wages of sin is death.

They had to make burnt offerings and blood offerings for sin.

So that's part of his righteous law to deal with sin.

That's how he dealt with it.

So the devil's like, great, let's pervert that.

Let's take that ritual of burning and blood and let's have you make all these sacrifices to demons, to deities.

Give it to me.

I have my way.

Yeah.

And like we said earlier, you know, me and Angela were talking about this.

He gave me a revelation when I got saved of the counterfeit element of how the devil works.

He counterfeits everything God creates.

And so he's trying to counterfeit the cross with that.

Right.

The cross is the perfect sacrifice of the spotless, blameless lamb of Jesus, his pure blood.

And so the devil wants to counterfeit so he will use innocent blood.

That's why every Satanist and different levels of the occult, whether it's Freemasonry or Jesuit stuff, they all make sacrifices using children's blood because it's innocent blood to counterfeit pure blood.

And this isn't conspiracy theory.

No, this is real.

This is established, like well known, established facts.

I've talked to people in medical communities in multiple nations, confirm what you said.

So it's like we take the blood of a child and then obviously portion is a big part of witchcraft as well connected to the womb.

And so you have like the Virgin Mary conceives of Jesus as the Holy Spirit overshadows her, right?

But then the demonic version of that is like portion.

And you see that.

And that's a huge part of my story.

My first official blood sacrifice to the devil was an abortion when I was 19 years old.

And that opened a door in my life that meant that now I would be exposed to those spirits, those demons that encouraged me to become obsessed with blood ritual and blood sacrifice and blood magic.

And I just graduated through the years to like full blown blood magic where I was literally just writing spells and manifesting my own reality, as they say in New Age, through, through my blood.

And it seemed worth it because it was working, right?

And it's like that's what we have to tell Christians because they would hear these stories and be like, why would you ever do that?

Because their assumption is your life gets worse, right?

And it eventually gets worse, but it's like the dev.

I think what happens is like in Christianity initially it's hard because you're dying to self you're destroying altars and idols.

But then in the long term it's eternal life, right?

But then the devil does the opposite where it's in the short term he's blood, you know what I mean?

Because it's, he's blessing you in the short term, but then long term, right?

And that's why I've heard so many stories like this.

I got chills all over me.

Yeah, me too.

You know, because it's, it's like we're exposing a deception, right?

Because there's so many people watching this video right now.

Maybe they even came to judge it because they're in the beginning phase where it's still working, right?

And it does.

You know, witchcraft works and sin feels good, but you'll pay for it with your soul.

There's a price.

So, you know, when we come to Christ, we lose things in the natural world.

Like maybe we lose all our friends because they think we're crazy.

Or maybe we lose relationships, money, fame, acclaim.

But you gain eternal life and you store up treasures in heaven.

But yeah, if you want to be a friend of this world, then the devil will give you whatever you want.

If you love this world, then the love of the Father is not in you.

That's why the scripture says that.

Because this world, you cannot serve money and God, you cannot drink from the cup of demons and the Lord.

Like this world is the place where you're going to be blessed temporarily, carnally, and it feels great.

But there's eternity and you got to deal with that.

You know, you're going to pay in eternity for what you do here.

Oh, so good.

That makes me just think though, that although things are taken away, God still restores and redeems.

He does.

Yes.

And the things that he gives, like you said, is eternal.

We can have that here on earth.

Right?

Right.

Like we were laughing and talking earlier, talking about happiness versus joy.

So God gives us joy.

The scripture says the joy of the Lord is my strength.

And even though when we come to new life in Christ, there's still struggles, but we have our hope and our hope is in Jesus and he's able to help us endure.

So I love that, you know, things might be taken away, but the Lord still gives us gifts.

We get his Holy Spirit, we get joy, we get peace.

And those are the things that fill us up.

I know in your interview you talked about going to those wells, those broken cisterns, and whether it's sexual or you know, into the occult, there's still this broken cisterns that we're going to that are not filling us up.

And I just think and wonder in your story and in your interview you talked about dying to yourself and getting to that point.

So of course maybe it's working now and then eternally it doesn't work.

But I guess how did you come to a point where you were like, okay, this is not working right?

And where you were saying, I need life because the power of the blood gives us life and life more abundantly.

The scripture says amen, you know.

Well, I was thinking when we were listening to Angela, cause we were just like behind the camera praying the whole time.

We have such a, like identical testimony with different details, like this parallel of how we came out.

So it was the same with me as it was for her.

I just was trying, trying, trying, trying.

Trying to fill the God shaped hole in my heart.

Trying to fill the emptiness.

I was always depressed, I was always miserable.

The witchcraft worked in the Sense that I saw results of what I was trying to do.

But I didn't feel any more fulfilled.

I still felt I was suicid age of 11 when I received a spirit of suicide.

Until I met Jesus at 32, every day of my life was spiritual agony.

I was totally empty inside.

So, yes, it worked in terms of, like the natural, you know, getting money, getting fame, getting acclaim, getting around this world.

But inside I was vacuously empty and just so, so depressed.

You know, it's interesting too, kind of piggybacking what you were saying.

What you were saying this, like, joy.

It's like, yeah, sometimes things may be taken, but then he restores everything.

And something that I like to talk a lot about, me and Nayla have talked about this a lot on even my show is like the joy of the Lord, right?

And this idea of suffering, how you're actually going to suffer either way, like, as a Christian or not.

But here's the difference, is that as a Christian, you're actually dead to yourself.

So you suffer for Christ.

And I think a lot of.

I don't know if you've ever done any teachings on this, but I think, like, a lot of Christians are always talking about how they're depressed or they're anxious or they're this.

And they're like, well, the Bible says we're gonna suffer, but that's not what it means.

Like, that's how you suffer in the world with that vacuous hole.

You suffer with depression and anxiety, but when you come to the Lord, like, you suffer for his sake, you don't suffer for your sake anymore because he's taken that from you.

He suffered for your sake, and now you suffer for his name because you're a follower of Him.

But that doesn't mean you should struggle with, like, depression and anxiety and misery.

And I think for you, this is why your tough is so triggering to the community you came from, because they don't have that.

And that's.

I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what you're looking for in that lifestyle is that unending joy.

But it's all coming from being alive in yourself, because it's all about the self.

And now you're in Christ and it's like they can't fathom that.

You're just.

You're genuinely joyful and that part of you is dead.

Yeah, right.

I know a lot of stories from people because the culture, the lifestyle is partying, drinking, all the things you know.

And even though I didn't necessarily come out.

I started to come to church.

But like, all of that culture is just going to those broken cisterns, and you keep going in that cycle.

It's a different cycle, but it's still a cycle.

It's a different hamster wheel, but it's still a hamster wheel.

And so I see a lot of people, they get older, they're, you know, not saying that marriage is, you know, called for everyone, but people who are older, and they're just so sad and depressed, and then they start grooming other young men because they want that emotional or some kind of connection.

We see people who are.

Who are older, you know, the partying goes away.

But now they're heavily addicted.

And so when I say, respectfully, I don't want that, I don't want your life, I mean that in all honesty, because we haven't seen good fruit bear from that.

And at this point, I want good fruit in my life.

For me, my heaviest struggle was getting out of porn, you know, And I.

One day I woke up and it was gone.

Through the power of Jesus after totally surrendering.

I know you guys spoke about surrender a little bit earlier, but there are stages and levels of surrender.

So I just also want to encourage people to fully surrender.

And when you fully surrender and die to yourself, you truly have freedom, you truly have life.

Otherwise, you'll continue to go in cycles.

I was tired of going in cycles, Covid.

And the pandemic was a blessing, you know, as well.

It was like a halt.

It was a stop to really reflect.

I'm a striver, I'm a worker.

So I've been working and striving and doing all these things for years, up until Covid, when the Lord called me me into rest.

And the rest that I got was that I'm exchanging my burdens for yours.

His yoke is easy and his rest is light.

Amen.

And that's why we can count it all.

Joy, right?

The suffering that you.

That you talked about suffering for Christ, it doesn't feel like the suffering in the world.

The suffering in the world is like all on you.

It's internal torment.

But when you suffer for Christ, it's persecution for your faith or, you know, something like that.

Losing worldly possessions.

You count it, Joy.

When I lost everything, when I came to Christ, I was literally skipping like this.

Get this image.

I'm in the Pyrenees mountains.

I was literally skipping through the mountains, like swinging my hand, imagining I'm Holding Jesus hand, going, I have Jesus.

I lost my house, my relationship, my friends, all my money.

You know, like, I had so much joy to lose everything in this world for him because he is everything and.

He'S already conquered the world.

It's he who's greater than the one that's in the world.

Yes.

And I love when it talks about in Colossians 10, I've been studying that a lot, but it talks about experiencing the fullness of God through Jesus Christ.

Amen.

The one who came to the earth who was a man but did not sin.

Like, how do you think you're going to overcome anything without Jesus?

He was the perfect man who didn't sin and overcame the world.

So the only way for you to be able to move through life and experience the fullness and the destiny that God has for you is through him.

Amen.

Wow.

Oh, you know what's crazy to think about?

So you're involved in witchcraft and you're offering your body.

You're involved in, I believe, another form of witchcraft.

Offering your body.

Think about it.

Manipulation.

Yeah.

What exactly.

Mind control.

Yeah.

But then what does Christ do?

He offers his body.

Oh, thank.

So it's like salvation is receiving what Christ already offered and witchcraft is you being the offering.

Exactly.

So it's like, yeah, he was the offering for us.

So we don't have to put ourselves on the altar anymore for the devil.

And the world.

And the world.

World, the world is struggling right now with I need to define myself.

But the gospel is die to self.

Amen.

So it's like, cuz right now everybody's trying to define themselves, but we're saying, no, die to self.

And I think the burden of this generation is self assigned identity.

So in.

Because like, I'm a dad, I never had a dad.

I had multiple abusive stepdads.

And so you want to make something of yourself.

And that's really what we're seeing with like the culture now is like, I'm going to define myself as new age, I'm going to define myself with an lgbt.

It's like you're creating your own identity, but there's a weight.

But see, what happens is when you have a father, you don't create an identity, you inherit it.

Yeah.

And so it's like, what should have happened is, hey, you're a signorelli.

Let me tell you what that means.

You lay your life down for your family, your wife, for Christ, you die to self.

We have integrity, you know, we're generous, like, you know what I mean?

Like you inherit an identity, and you're proud of where you came from.

From.

But we.

We exchange being proud of the lineage for pride.

So it's like.

You get what I'm saying?

It's like.

And so I think the gospel is inheritance versus making right.

And there's a lot of people who are like, they're.

They're going online, like, oh, maybe I can become more powerful through this.

Maybe I can become more influential.

So I just wanted to interject that idea.

They don't know their identity.

I didn't know my identity.

I didn't know that God made me to love me, that I'm supposed to be destined to be a child of God.

No one told me that.

Right.

So I was trying to figure out, who am I?

Why am I on this planet?

And that's why we both went into the occult, because, well, I was already in the occult.

But why we went deep is we're like, who am I?

Why am I here?

Why do I exist?

Who is God?

What is this?

And that's a problem.

Even in the church.

Christians often don't know their identity in Christ.

Like, to truly understand that.

Well, yeah, and I've seen you face so much rejection as well.

But I think it's because you know who you are that you're able to survive that.

So I don't know if you want to talk about that.

I was just going to say the revelation.

Revelation with, like, defining yourself.

One thing that I learned that the Lord gave me was like, well, when does it end?

I keep defining myself.

I keep going.

I keep going and I keep going.

It's another cycle.

Okay, I'm gay.

Okay, I'm bi.

Okay, I'm trans.

I'm pansexual.

I'm asexual.

I'm doing all.

And now we're adding more colors to the flag, more symbols, all the things.

I have no idea what's going on, but it's like, when does it end?

When you receive identity from the father, you get a full sentence with a period.

You don't get a comma.

You don't get a hyphen.

It's done.

And so that was so freeing for me.

And I just want to encourage everyone to just.

When you receive identity, you don't have to keep feeling yourself.

You don't have to keep adding question marks and commas to things.

It's already finished and done.

I don't have to do anything.

Right.

I just heard her period.

Right.

It's sons.

See, like, it's like completely different stories.

Like, New Age, lgbt, like, but it's the same because the devil is not creative.

He's just crafty.

So it's always the same thing in a different package.

And what you're saying, it's like, well, what's the next thing?

What's the next.

What's the next letter of the Alphabet that we're gonna use?

Right.

It's like, with us, it was like, well, what's the next thing?

Because for us, it's like your identity is always being defined.

And for us, it was always like, well, you're always healing, so it's always another layer of healing and always another upgrade, always another ascension.

It's never like, there's no means to an end.

I always preach that, that there's no means to an end with New Age.

It's just like a constant healing.

But it's a paradox because it's also the preaching of, well, you are perfect, whole, and complete, and yet you have to do all these things to be healed.

So it's like, what?

It's very.

Work space.

It's work space.

It's very validation that you never actually achieve.

But I think what happens to get out of that is the revelation of the love of the Father.

Because you talked about realizing that God loves you.

That was it.

And although I grew up in church, I just.

My understanding of God was that he was judgment, he was judgeful, he was, you know, I couldn't stand up.

I couldn't live up to a certain expectation.

But that's not love.

That's shame, that's guilt.

That's love with a condition.

But we serve a God, Christianity.

Jesus is the only religion where he says, I love you and you don't have to do anything.

That's so freeing.

Well, Scripture even says, son, I loved you at your darkest.

You know, like.

And I think that's the love that the world needs to hear.

I loved you at your darkest, but I didn't keep you in darkness.

Yeah.

And I think that's the difference.

The other thing, too, is, like, the more you go on that.

That definition route, there's no rest for your soul.

Right.

And, like, what I feel on you all is.

Is a paradoxical nature, but not of works with more works, but doing the will of God in the midst of rest.

So, in other words, I'm resting in my salvation because I know it's in him.

I couldn't earn it.

Everything I offer was filthy rags.

Think about that.

When you're in witchcraft, it's like, what's the best offering I can make.

But the gospel says even your best is filthy rags.

And so then you're at rest in that, and then that rest empowers you to now do the will of the Father without striving.

So good.

And I feel like this is.

We're getting to roots real quick.

I know we don't have, like.

Okay, let me just say this because we only got a few more minutes because, everybody, this is.

This has been the easiest podcast I ever did.

I knew this was gonna happen.

I was like, lord, make me the dumbest one at the table.

And he did it today.

So we're gonna have to do round two.

We'll have to go deeper on this one.

But we have just a few more minutes left.

And I.

I want to, like, shift the focus because.

To ministering, because we kind of been diagnosing like.

Like, if.

If you all could just take these last.

Like, we literally have few minutes just to minister to those who are watching because they're finally, like, okay, now what do I do?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Who wants to go?

Okay, so, yeah, if I could just speak to all the new ages out there.

I didn't know I was in New Age until I got saved and I encountered Jesus.

I never even heard the term New age.

So let me just say, anyone who's mixed up in witchcraft, mixed up in things of the occult, whether it's tarot, yoga, Reiki crystals, healing using sound vibrations, ascension, culture, I was big into goddess worship and the divine feminine movement, and all these things that, you know, all come under the umbrella time of new age.

You are looking for the truth.

And I know that because I was a truth seeker.

That was why I was so driven to seek these occult mysteries.

It's because I wanted the truth, the truth above every other truth.

And that was my search spiritually, my whole life.

And what changed for me is when I cried out to the universe, which, as God at the time, and I said, show me the ultimate truth, the truth above every other truth, because I know there's a capital T, truth, and I have all this lowercase T, truth, like all these different mystery texts I read, and I had so much worldly wisdom.

I read every book on religion, but I knew I didn't have the ultimate truth because I was still vacuous and empty inside.

And if you found the truth, you wouldn't still have this huge burning question mark in your soul.

So I knew that I hadn't found the truth.

And so I cried out and asked, and if you're really actually hungry, for truth.

And you're not prideful and you're not concerned with being right, but you're just concerned with receiving the truth.

If you ask, Jesus Christ himself will reveal himself to you because Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.

And there is no one who can come to God or truth except through Him.

He's the only way to God.

And so that was my revelation because I got desperate enough to say, you know what, even if I don't like the truth, just give it me to.

I want it.

So I just appeal to anyone who truly wants truth.

If you are truly hungry for truth, you will arrive at Jesus Christ because he is truth.

That's literally one of his names.

So I cried out truth and he's like, here I am.

So if you really, really want to know, just ask.

Like, ask from your soul.

Cry out from the depths of yourself with a genuine curiosity.

And yeah, don't try and disprove God or test him, but just actually ask for the truth and you will receive it.

Because Jesus says, knock and the door will be open.

Happened.

Yeah.

That's so good.

Yeah, praise God.

I'll just piggyback off that because it's simple too.

From our testimony, we have like the same testimony.

It's so true.

And I know better than anyone, because I was there, that if you are in that right now where you are searching and searching and searching, then your heart is fertile to receive the Lord because he meets you in that place of humility.

And as Nayla's talking, I'm thinking that to myself, how, how it does come from that first little willingness to actually surrender and say, well, what if I don't know better?

And so that's what I would just encourage is just that willingness to just say, okay, I've done it this way for so long.

Just allow yourself to embrace the what if.

What if what these girls are saying is true and all of this witchcraft, all this new age stuff that I've been doing, doing is not the way.

What if Jesus is the way because he will meet you there?

Because he is the way.

He is absolutely the way.

And all this other stuff will never fulfill you.

He is the only one that can fulfill you.

He is the only one that can fill the God shaped hole in your heart because it's in the shape of a cross.

And I just want to encourage you, all that, the new age stuff, it's all a counterfeit, it's all a lie.

No one wants to take your spirituality away from you.

God created spirituality and he will redeem that and the gifts that you have, he will redeem that, that for his glory.

He's the one that created it.

The devil has taken it and perverted it for his kingdom.

God will redeem it.

But more important, you will have eternal life.

You will be forgiven, you will be covered, you will be made new, a new creation.

The Bible says.

And yeah, do not sell out for these lies because you are already bought with a price by Jesus.

So good.

Amen.

I just wanted to the scripture that saved my life and that I always say a lot of that times is Matthew 3:17.

This is my beloved Son whom I love and I'm well pleased with him.

This is what God said to Jesus after he was baptized.

When the heavens opened and the Holy Spirit descended like a dove, before Jesus did anything, he was affirmed by His Father.

And if you hear a lot of our stories, you'll see the connecting thread.

We surrendered.

We came to the end of ourselves and we found Jesus.

We found peace and we found so I just want to let you know that you are loved and that you are seen and that you are valued, that he loves you so much.

Your identity is not an outcast.

Your identity is not alienated or feeling like you're not seeing that you're hidden.

Your identity is that you're a son and daughter of the Lord and He loves you so much.

That's what set me free.

And I'm so grateful for that.

Even at one point when I was identifying as a maybe potential gay Christian, like literally three years ago, I just realized in my surrender I was able to receive the fullness of God.

And I never want to do anything to come away from that.

Because when I have love, I have everything.

So no matter what your background is, whether you had a great upbringing, whether you didn't, whether you've been in Colt or not, single parent household or not, you are loved.

And that love is going to take you to glory.

So oh so good.

I want to thank all of you at the table for your yes, thank you for your yes.

Like I just the boldness that you've had to stand for Christ and share in his sufferings and just on behalf of all the lives that you've touched and so many more, thank you.

You know, I want to say that because I know they're going to be in the comment sections thanking you, but on behalf of all them, thank you because I know it's not easy and sometimes you make it look like way easier than it is.

They don't know the anguish they don't know the struggle.

They don't know how you have to pray through the confusion.

And many of you are literally hacking your way through all of the.

The.

The brush and the debris of this generation to.

To.

To do something that.

Who's made the playbook?

Right.

So I just want to say thank you for being willing to pioneer and find.

Find a new way.

And for all of you watching right now, this is a.

A phrase.

Like when we launched our church, this is something the.

A revelation God gave me me is to call.

To call those who say yes to Jesus, the wild ones.

Because sometimes we think like, oh, yeah, I'm going to come into Christianity.

I'm going to lose my edge.

But it's like, we are.

We are the wild ones.

There's nothing more exciting than being walking with Jesus.

It's an adventure knowing God.

Yeah.

Because it's like in the world, you wake up and you're like, okay, now what.

What do I make with my life?

But when you accept the love of the Father, you wake up and you say, ah, Baba, like, papa, what's.

What adventure are we gonna have today?

What miracle are you gonna do today that'll break anxiety?

Because anxiety is.

I don't know what today's gonna hold, but faith in crisis, Papa, what are we gonna do today?

And he knows.

He knows every day of our life.

He's already written it.

That's it.

So we're just in his hand, just like, thank you, God.

Oh, come on.

Okay, so the potter and clay.

That's it.

That's it.

Okay, so we're gonna go.

We're gonna do another one of these.

So I already know y' all.

And then their chant channels are linked in the description.

So go over, subscribe to their channels, follow them on different socials, receive from their lives.

And as always, guys, thank you so much for making this such a special place here together online.

I'll see you in the next one.