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01:00 - Fake recruiter emails exposed
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There's a huge data job scam going on
right now, and no one is talking about it,
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:And honestly, it's starting to
get outta control, so that's why
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:I'm gonna talk about it today.
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:If you're applying for data jobs, chances
are you will apply to multiple fake scam
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:data jobs no matter how hard you try.
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:And even if you don't actually
go out there and apply to fake
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:job scams, the fake job scams
are starting to come to you now.
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:These job scams, they're all over
the place, and if you're not careful,
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:you'll lose out on thousands of
dollars and hours of wasted time.
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:So in this episode, I'll explain
one, what these job scams are.
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:Two, what the job scammers are after and
how they actually make money with it.
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:And then three, a bunch of red flags that
you can try to use to identify these jobs
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:so you don't fall victim to the scams.
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:But first, if you're new here, welcome.
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:My name is Avery Smith.
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:I'm a senior data analyst and data
career coach, this is kind of your jam.
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:Make sure you hit the subscribe
button, whether you're listening
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:on podcast or watching on YouTube,
so that way more content like
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:this ends up in your algorithm.
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:All right, so in this new era, I
think hundreds of data jobs are
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:being posted online that are complete
scams and posted by scammers.
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:So where are these scams
actually taking place?
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:And the honest answer is
it's kind of everywhere,
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:but I think the most dangerous
one right now is the email.
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:So let's start there and take a look
at what a fake scam data job email
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:actually looks like from my own email.
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:Avery Smith-2: Dear Avery,
I hope you're doing well.
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:My name is Mike DeSantis and I'm a
talent acquisition specialist in the
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:aerospace industry with GE Aerospace.
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:I came across your profile and wanted
to reach out based on your strong
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:background in data science, analytics,
and data engineering across both
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:industry and research environments.
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:Your experience working as a data
scientist and data engineer along with
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:your prior roles supporting optimization
simulations and applied machine learning
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:aligns well with the data-driven
work we support at GE Aerospace.
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:So, so far this is all pretty accurate
because I have worked as a data analyst,
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:data scientist, and a data engineer.
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:Um, I have dealt with a bunch of
machine learning and optimization and
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:simulations, and I have worked in industry
and in academic research environments.
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:So this is really accurate so far.
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:Your hands on experience with
Python, sql, statistical analysis,
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:modeling, and data visualization
combined with exposure to engineering.
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:Focus.
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:Problem solving is particularly
relevant to teams supporting operational
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:analytics, advanced engineer programs,
and business decision support experience.
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:Working across both academic research
and the large enterprise environments
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:is also a strong fit for our
collaboration cross-functional teams.
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:I'd welcome the opportunity to connect
and share more about our current upcoming
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:data science and analytics opportunities
at GA Aerospace and learn more about
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:what you may be interested in exploring.
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:Next best regards, Mike Desant,
talent acquisition specialist.
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:So on first glance, this
email is, seems very good.
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:They know a lot about me, to be honest.
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:Like they had a very accurate picture of
what I've done in the past and my skills.
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:Um, and it's like a really good fit for
me because if you're new, I actually
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:studied chemical engineering, so I was.
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:An engineer before I broke into data
science and I would really do well in
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:aerospace 'cause I understand engineering
and I obviously have a data science
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:background, so this job is actually
kind of a really good fit for me.
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:However, if you look closely, you're gonna
find out that this is a scam and I'll
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:actually show you how here right now.
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:So the biggest.
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:Giveaway basically in this whole thing.
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:'cause I actually think the copy of
the email is actually pretty good.
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:But the biggest thing is
right here, the email domain.
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:Any person working for a huge company
like ge, like multi-billion, maybe
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:a hundred billion dollar company, GE
is probably a hundred billion dollar.
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:I don't know.
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:They're going to have a GE email.
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:They're not going to have a gmail.com
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:email.
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:They're not gonna have an Outlook email
like anyone who's really going to be
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:emailing you and is actually serious, A
serious recruiter or HR person or anything
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:like that, they're not gonna be using.
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:Gmail, they're not gonna be using out
Outlook, they're not gonna be using Yahoo.
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:They're going to be using a domain
that's specific to their company.
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:So this is a dead giveaway right
here, that this is actually a scam.
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:Now, if you actually go and look at
this person on LinkedIn, and that's
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:always a really good idea, uh, to
do, is to try to find this person on
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:LinkedIn, which this person does exist.
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:You'll see him right here, Mike DeSantis.
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:He does indeed work as a
global HR executive at ge,
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:but what you'll find out here is really,
he's been working at GE since:
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:now he's an executive director, not even
just an executive, an executive director.
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:So the odds that this executive
director would be cold emailing me
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:when I've never applied for GE before
and I'm not looking for a data job.
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:I'm a data career coach, and
I'm very happy doing that.
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:It's like the best job ever.
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:It is pretty low.
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:So once again, a domain here
that doesn't make sense.
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:A LinkedIn page where this guy is
way too senior to be emailing me.
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:This whole thing is a scam.
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:Now we'll talk about what this person
is probably after here in a little bit,
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:but I just wanna show you that I get
a lot of these emails as you do too.
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:So for example, you can actually
see that Mike emailed me earlier.
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:Let's see, 13 days ago.
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:Nicole is emailing me here.
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:Once again a Gmail account, and this
is about some sort of Python SQL
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:machine learning data models role.
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:I worked at MIT.
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:Yes I did.
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:So they're, they're good.
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:They know what they're talking about.
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:Another one right here from a
Gmail account, it's the director
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:of Talent acquisition at.
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:The percentage, uh, group, company.
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:Um, let's see if I can
find you another one.
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:Susie, right here also wants to hire
me once again from a Gmail account.
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:Um, this one's kind of interesting
because it's a picture of her
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:and like her dog it looks like.
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:Um, and I don't think it's
very professional if you
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:click on her LinkedIn page.
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:Once again, her , LinkedIn page exists,
but like it's a different photo.
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:Like that's kind of interesting, right?
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:Um, also she's been working
at Qualcomm since:
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:Don't you think she would have a
Qualcomm email instead of this Gmail?
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:Right.
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:So this is a scam as well.
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:Basically these people are trying to
pretend to be someone that they're
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:not and they're trying to get
something from you, which is basically
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:money or information about you.
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:Avery Smith-3: Similarly, I
saw this, uh, post on LinkedIn.
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:Said, just got an email from Chris Zang
at beacon fire solution careers.com.
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:I assume this is a scammer and not you.
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:Sorry to hear that you're
identity keeps getting stolen.
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:Hope they stop soon.
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:And that actually led
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:Chris Zang to make a LinkedIn
post, uh, who is the director of
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:Digital Marketing at Beacon Fire
and say, . Hi LinkedIn Community.
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:I must write this post to help
everyone be aware of job scams.
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:Starting from last Friday, I have been
receiving LinkedIn InMails from folks,
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:who have received a job offer from me.
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:Apparently, there are some scammers
pretending to be me sending fake
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:job offers at Beacon Fire, such
as web developer to the community.
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:Once you sign the offer letter, they will
ask you for sensitive private information.
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:Please be aware this is a job scam.
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:If you're receiving anything,
please double check the email id.
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:My email address is ending
with beacon fire inc.com.
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:If the email ID is different
from this, please do not proceed.
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:It is a scam.
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:This is exploiting folks who have been
impacted by the layoffs during this time.
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:To everyone in the job search, be careful
and protect yourself from job scam.
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:Now this one was a little bit more
sophisticated because if you remember,
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:this email right here is from
beacon fire solution careers.com,
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:which is in a Gmail account.
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:It's not an Outlook account,
but it's not like the official
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:domain of Beacon Fire, right?
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:So this is another thing
that scammers will do.
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:They'll go buy domains that are
similar to what you might think.
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:The actual domain would be, so for
example, you might get an email from
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:someone who says they work for Google
and their domain is like google jobs.com
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:or google careers.com.
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:Anyone can go out there and buy any domain
that they want as long as it's available.
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:And so you can like create
for, for example, my company's
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:data, career dumpster.com.
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:I own that domain.
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:A scammer can watch this video and
buy data, career jumpstart careers.com
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:and pretend to be me, but
that's not my official domain.
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:Now, I will say there is a
little bit of a caveat here.
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:There's these things called
sub-domains that people use
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:on the front of their domain.
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:So for example,
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:if someone sent you an email from
careers dot beacon fire inc.com,
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:that would be okay if the change is
at the beginning, it can be okay.
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:Now, another thing that people do is they
actually try to make it look like there's
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:the actual domain at the beginning.
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:So it'll be like from.
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:Mike@google.com,
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:dot careers.com
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:or something like that.
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:So you have to be really careful
when you're looking at those
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:domains to make sure they actually
match what you think they do.
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:And when in doubt, maybe ask a
friend, a family member, maybe even
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:sending me a mail to the actual
person and be like, Hey, is this you?
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:If it is, let me know.
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:But otherwise, I think, uh, someone's
pretending to be you, and I think
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:they'll be thankful for it and
you'll be thankful for it as well.
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:Avery Smith-5: Now to go back to
these emails here, how did they
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:know so many things about me?
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:Like for instance, one of them
knew that I was a data coach.
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:I taught data engineering
basically at MIT.
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:How did they know that?
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:I know SQL and Python and I've done.
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:Optimization and simulation
and machine learning.
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:Well, the answer is my LinkedIn profile.
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:All that stuff is on my LinkedIn profile,
and they're probably using scraping.
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:They're basically scraping LinkedIn
to get information about you,
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:including your email, which is
somehow available on LinkedIn.
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:Don't ask me how that works.
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:There's like a setting, I don't know, but.
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:They're basically getting my email
and all my information about me via a
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:scraper, and then they probably have
some sort of automated processes to mass
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:send these emails to hundreds, if not
thousands of people to try to scam them.
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:Now what are they after?
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:We'll talk about that right after
we talk about the other place that
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:they're going to be trying to scam
you, which is actually on LinkedIn 10.
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:So if you've been subscribed to this
YouTube channel or this podcast,
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:or you've been subscribed to my
newsletter, wink, wink, that's
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:the best place to be subscribed.
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:You know that I like to talk about,
you're going to have to do more than just
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:apply for jobs to actually land a job.
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:There's this whole process called
the SPN method, S being skills,
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:P being portfolio, and being your
networking and career skills.
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:And part of your networking and career
skills is your ability to do things
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:that people aren't willing to do and to
network in ways that people aren't really.
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:Willing to network.
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:And one of the things I talk about
is the hidden job market, which is
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:basically you go on LinkedIn and
you type in hiring data analyst or
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:hiring analyst at the top right here.
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:And you go to the post and
you sort by the latest.
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:And then what this is gonna
show you is all the posts that
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:say the phrase hiring analyst.
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:And you'll see the most recent ones and
you'll be able to see who posted them
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:and you can send them cold messages
or pitch them on, Hey, I'm awesome.
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:You should hire me.
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:That's a whole different
topic for another day.
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:But if you do that, or if you're
just scrolling through LinkedIn,
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:you might see posts that look
like this from James Parker.
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:Now hiring at Alliance.
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:Next career move starts here.
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:Join the network, powering
the world's digital economy.
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:Sounds pretty great, right?
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:Or you might see a post that
looks like this from Victor.
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:We're hiring at Puma Group.
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:Join Puma Group, one of the
world's leading sportswear
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:and lifestyle companies.
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:Sounds good.
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:I'm in, right?
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:Like you might be interested in those
positions, but, I've done this so many
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:times that I can already tell right
off the bat that these are both scams.
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:And let me show you some of the
red flags that I'm seeing that.
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:Prove that this is, uh, a scam.
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:First off, once again, too high
of a position posting this, the
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:chief people officer, really that's
what the Chief People Officer is
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:doing, is posting job postings.
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:Doesn't seem likely when you click
on the more button here, you'll also
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:see that there is an outlook.com
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:email.
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:Oh, so the, the CPO is using just.
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:An Outlook domain and not
actually an alliance domain.
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:Not very likely.
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:In fact, 0% chance.
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:So this is obviously a scam right here.
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:I've also noticed that they've started to
repost some viral posts from someone else.
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:To try to get you to stop and
then you read it, and then
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:you're like, oh, I want a job.
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:I'm gonna apply for this.
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:Um, similarly also, a lot of the
times these, uh, these LinkedIn
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:profiles, they just look too good.
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:Like, like the, the pictures look like
they're just AI pictures of people.
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:So like James Parker, I don't
think this person actually exists.
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:He just looks like a guy.
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:Like look at, he's been like, he has
17 experiences, no bullet points.
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:His LinkedIn's just empty.
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:There's literally zero followers.
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:He's connected to no one.
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:You can just tell that this is a
fake profile, so this is just a fake
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:profile, and they posted a fake job.
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:On this one.
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:A lot of the times when they use images
that look like this, where it has like
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:the brand and it says we're hiring and
big, it's like people don't actually do
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:that when people are actually hiring.
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:It looks like this right here.
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:Um, now this is a recruiter, so
they're using like a notch Gmail
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:or not Outlook, but it's not like.
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:You probably have heard
of SGS consulting, right?
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:These are like what normal job
postings kind of look like.
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:We're hiring data
engineers at Puma Energy.
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:Like this is probably a real job.
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:Um, and you can kind of check
this person's LinkedIn if you
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:wanted to and try to confirm that.
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:But whenever you see a job
posting on LinkedIn, you should
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:be confirming who's posting it.
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:Does that person look real?
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:Does they actually work for the company?
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:And are there any sort of red flags?
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:So make sure you're doing that when
you're looking on LinkedIn, and you
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:can try to do it on other job boards.
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:It's a little bit harder.
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:We'll talk about some other red flags
you can look for later that will identify
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:these fake jobs on the platforms.
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:Okay.
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:Now that we kind of know where these
job scams are, let's talk about
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:what they're actually trying to do.
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:And to do that, I'm going to
actually read you a story that
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:someone sent me, about being scammed
basically, or almost scammed.
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:And I got a lot of these, some of
them are from my students inside of my
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:bootcamp, the Data Analytic Accelerator.
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:some of them are just from LinkedIn
followers or i'm gonna just read
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:it and I'll, uh, pop up the text on
YouTube if you're watching, but I
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:don't wanna screen share 'cause I
don't wanna show this person's name.
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:So, I created a profile on AngelList
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:(AngelList = Job Platform)
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:A so-called recruiter named
Sean Miller reached out to me
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:via text message and said this,
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:(Texts = Easy to Reach You)
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:This is Mr.
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:Leanne Clark.
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:(What is this person's name?)
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:Interview Manager / Corporate
Recruiter at Coordination Solutions.
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:(Generic business name)
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:We've retrieved your resume from
AngelList recruitment service
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:platform and your request from
a job placement is under review.
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:We're currently in the process
of setting up a team of business
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:analysts working remotely.
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:Please lemme know if you're
interested in the position.
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:Thank you.
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:Then there was an interview kind of
thing via Google Meet where they had a
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:few questions I had to answer via text.
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:This is a huge red flag.
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:If you are doing an interview, first
off, if the interview is like insanely
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:easy to get, almost like too easy,
it's probably too good to be true.
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:Uh, and then also if that interview
happens only via text, like via chat,
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:like you hop on Microsoft teams and they
won't show their face, they won't talk.
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:They're just talking to you via text.
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:That's a scam too.
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:That's another red.
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:Then they had some training
assessment every day at 9:00 AM.
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:They told me, they'd mail me a check
for signing bonus and equipments.
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:They sent a $4,850 check for me
to deposit in the nearest ATM.
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:I instead went to Chase Bank and
verified the check with them.
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:Turns out it was a fake check!
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:And the bank authorities told me they
will ask you to return half the money
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:back saying they overpaid and they'll be
in a loss that money's owed to the bank.
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:So basically they were
like, Hey, you got the job.
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:Here's some money for your equipment.
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:Here's some money for a
test you have to take.
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:And they might have you, like
for instance, cash, a bad check.
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:They might have you say, oh,
we meant to send only 2,500 and
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:then you have to return the rest.
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:Uh, it's just kind of unfortunate
that that's what they're trying to do.
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:They're basically trying to get
you to spend money on something
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:that you don't have to do.
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:Uh, another example that I
had from someone else that.
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:That messaged me said that they were
applying for a scrum master role and
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:that in order to like be qualified for
this role, they, they needed to do this
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:like certificate, and the certificate
was $400, but if they passed their
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:certificate, they basically had the job.
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:Or another one is, hey, you have to
verify yourself before we like move
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:you on in the interview process.
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:This check.
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:This identification check or Id
check cost you a hundred dollars.
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:Any identification check that a
business does during a job interview
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:process, they're gonna pay for it.
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:You're not gonna pay for it.
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:So don't ever pay for any of those things.
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:Those are all just scams to
try to get you to pay money.
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:The last thing these scammers are
trying to do is steal your identity.
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:So they'll try to get important
things like your social
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:security, your date of birth.
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:Your address, those types of things.
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:I'm less familiar with what they can
do with that, like stolen identity.
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:They can like basically return
taxes or try to get a tax
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:refund or something for you.
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:I don't know.
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:They can open up credit cards in
your name, those types of things.
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:So that's the other thing they're trying
to do is either trying to get money
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:from you or information to eventually
get money from you down the road.
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:All right, so we talked about
where these job scams are.
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:We talked about what they're trying to do.
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:Let's talk about how you cannot
fall victim to these things.
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:So the first thing I wanna show you
is I actually built something for you
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:that's going to help you with this.
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:Let me show you.
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:Avery Smith-7: So I built this
tool, it's called Data Fairy, and
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:I basically made it for you guys.
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:It's basically like if you're
trying to land a data job,
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:this should be your companion.
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:Um, you can try it out for free.
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:I think there's 50 free uses a month
right now, and then the paid plan is
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:only, I think 10 bucks a month and
it gets you access to like chat, GPT
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:Premium and all this other stuff.
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:But, uh, there's a bunch of different
tools that we built that basically
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:will help you with your job hunt
and becoming a data analyst.
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:One of the ones I really like is
the job scam analyzer that lets you
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:basically like put in any sort of job
post you find on LinkedIn, any sort of
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:message that you get from a recruiter
via email, and then run the scam check
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:here, and it'll actually tell you
if it's a scam or if it looks okay.
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:And I like that a lot because that's like.
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:A really easy accessible friend, basically
that's trained specifically on this.
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:, I gave it a bunch of rules and
red flags that I'll show you here
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:in a second to do this analysis.
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:So you could, like, for instance, if you
wanna know if this is actually a real
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:job or not, you could basically plug
that in into our job scam analyzer here.
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:So this is called Data Fairy.
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:Well the link to it in the show notes
down below, like I said, the free
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:version I think is very generous.
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:Um, so Data Fairy.
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:The next thing I wanted to
quickly show you and feel free to.
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:To screenshot this or, or jot these down.
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:Um, this is a lesson inside of my
bootcamp, the Data Analytics accelerator.
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:The lesson title is Job Scams
to look out for, and I wanna go
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:through some of these red flags.
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:Number one, signing a contract
before you get an offer letter.
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:Like basically signing anything,
asking for full address social
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:security or bank information,
, before or after, , an interview.
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:Unless like you've done multiple
interviews, poor grammar and spelling,
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:in any of the emails, they ask you
for an upfront fee on anything.
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is like a Google phone number.
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has one to two employees.
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something for the interview,
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equipment with your own money, and they'll
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reimburse you or they say You need to
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their video turned on in an interview
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they contact you via text or WhatsApp.
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like this is too good to be true.
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you a job right away.
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like help you for a fee.
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it ends up being a fee, I guess
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the interview or the company until
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helpful and these are the type of
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different lessons I have inside of the
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basically designed to help someone go
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:We'll teach you all the skills.
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with a bunch of projects on it and do
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resume, all those good things to
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job if you're looking for a little bit
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data crew jumper.com/daa.
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:The next thing I wanna tell you about
is premium data jobs, uh, dot com.
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that I, I actually run personally.
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the hidden job market that
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LinkedIn and finding these jobs that
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literally has the recruiter's name and.
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number, at least their LinkedIn profile
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job in Florida for Disney experiences.
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actually see that recruiter's name.
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not have enough candidates that
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and you can actually send
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post with your portfolio or with some
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hopefully skip the whole a TS process
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:So all of these jobs that we source
at premium data jobs are from
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job market has, I would say, for
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just like are overseas, like in
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actually find the jobs to yourself.
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:We make it easy that you don't have to
go through it, you just subscribe here.
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:And then if you're interested in actually
getting more than 10 jobs and getting
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:some filters, um, we have some different
pricing plans that you can take a look at.
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:Now I've given you guys so
many different resources.
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:We talked about my newsletter.
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:We talked about, uh, my bootcamp, we
talked about premium data jobs.com.
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:We talked about my AI companion
data fairy, and all business people
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:and YouTubers and podcasters would
be like, you really shouldn't give
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episode, and I probably shouldn't.
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wanna help you and I'm hoping that.
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good solution for you.
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that I saw my students struggling with.
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out of money, and so I've really
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out of money, and I'm just
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scam checker, go to Data Ferry.
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just get really good.
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:Nice data jobs that you can apply
for and talk to a recruiter.
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:Uh, if you want more help on
your data journey, please go
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:and check out the bootcamp, whatever
ones is the right one for you.
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