Our conversation with Scar Markham and his journey within the Rochester music scene. He highlights the importance of representation and inclusivity in this vibrant community. Scar also shares his experience moving back to Rochester from New York City, reflecting on the differences in artistic opportunities. We dive into his thoughts on how local music venues are evolving and the need for more support for emerging artists. With a blend of personal stories and professional insights, Scar emphasizes the importance of creating a welcoming atmosphere that uplifts marginalized voices, reminding us of the power of shared experiences and the need for community engagement.

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Hi and welcome to the Change Makers, a series from the Sounds where we interview people who are making positive changes in our music scene and community in Rochester, New York.

My name is Kate Rogers.

I'm co founder of the Sound and I'm here with the sound team who I'll let introduce themselves.

Hey, I'm Joey.

And I'm Virginia.

Thank you guys.

And we have a very special guest here with us today, Scar Marcum.

I'll let you introduce yourself.

Hello everybody.

My name as you said, my name is Scar Marcum.

I am trans visual artist and also a musician here locally in Rochester, New York.

Well, thank you so much for being with us today.

You are a change maker and I think a lot of people in our community recognize you as that.

Not only in the art scene, but in the music scene.

You're constantly inspiring people and that's a reason why we wanted to have you on the show today.

So could you just tell us a little bit about yourself, your roots in Rochester and your inspiration behind the music and the art that you make?

Yeah, I grew up here in Rochester, New York.

Actually grew up right in this neighborhood that we're recording in right now.

Funny enough, so funny to hear the stories from you coming into this house when you're younger.

I'm hoping, hoping that there's not bad memories in this room.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

This was the house that had the pool.

So you know, there was the cool house to be at.

And thank you so much for having us.

Absolutely.

It's great to have everybody here today for the, for this great first interview.

Yeah, so I, yeah, growing up right down the street and I went to east aroundequoit school district and I met my husband there and we've been together for over 20 years.

And ever since then I've like, I got my start doing art in the skateboarding community and from there I got into the music scene.

So actually the skateboarding led to the art which led to the music, which I think a lot of what I do is connecting a lot of the different things that I'm interested in.

And I think that as a whole this town would be better if we did connect each other a lot more.

Yeah, that's a really interesting thought.

Is just this connectivity that's a reason why I started the sound is because when I moved here, I realized that there were a lot of really cool things happening, but not a lot of people within those communities knew each other.

And to me, that's kind of.

I don't know, it's.

It's sad because there's so many amazing people and so many amazing things.

And I think the crossing over of the different departments.

I put that in quotes.

Really adds a lot to our scene.

Yeah, I agree.

And I think that overall, Rochester is going to be a better place for it.

And so hopefully.

I mean, I have a lot of hobbies, so, like, I try and, like, bridge all those hobbies into everything that I do, whether it be music or lamb.

My artwork, which I.

In my artwork, I work in a lot of mediums.

I do woodworking mostly with recycled skateboard wood, and I paint and I draw.

And then a lot of times I'll mash those things together and I, like, will put recycled skateboard wood, like, mosaics into, like, my paintings and stuff like that.

And then I started making, like, because I'm into fixing old electronics.

So then I started making guitar pedals and, like, either painting the boxes or making the boxes out of recycled skateboard wood.

So I think just mashing all these different in.

Even just in the things that I'm doing, it's.

I've seen it in real time, like, interconnect people who wouldn't normally, you know, maybe wouldn't even have had interest in my art to begin with, but because it's like the niche that they were in, a, like, held their hand and like, brought them in.

So, yeah, I think that if we all work together, we can build a better world.

It's so true.

And I think, like, that leads into my next question, which is, I know you lived in Brooklyn for a while, and I did too.

And it felt like when you were trying to take chances, whether that's in music or in art, it was so much riskier in Brooklyn in a place where you had sky high rents and you may have not have known as many people and your time as well, the amount of time that you been working and doing tons of different things like that, you know, in Rochester, it just feels like there's more accessibility.

What are your thoughts on that compared to our music scene here and somewhere?

Like in Brooklyn when you live there?

Yeah, I mean, I don't have anything terrible to say about Brooklyn.

I actually enjoyed my time a lot there.

I just realized that my husband and I were never gonna own a house there.

Like, it was not gonna happen.

And all we did was work.

I didn't do anything but work.

And we worked opposite sched.

I Didn't even know, like, that I hadn't drawn since I was, like, in high school.

I mean, I would doodle.

I worked retail jobs and I would just doodle.

Like, I'd, like, push the feed button on the receipt paper thing and I just draw.

And then, like, scar, get back to work.

And I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah.

And like, I stuff it in my pockets.

And over the years, like, I had, like, just stacks of doodles that I made over the years.

But I still thought to myself, I'm like, I don't know how to draw.

I don't know how to do any of this stuff.

And when we moved back to Rochester and I was like, it was the first time I'd ever, like, started to skateboard with anybody.

I was still skateboarding, mostly alone, but I was going into the local skate shop and I was seeing a lot of zines and stuff.

And I was like, I could do that.

And I think just like, also having visual representation of something, and then people see it and then they realize, oh, maybe I can.

People try it.

And so I had that kind of moment in it.

And so then I just started making.

This was a decade ago.

And I started making a zine with my weird little receipt paper drawings.

And there's not a lot of them out there sometimes.

Like, people were like, oh, yeah, I remember those.

I'm like, seriously?

They're like, yeah, I still got a couple of them.

Like, I can't even believe it because it was just so.

It was such a little moment.

But it's what got me started on this journey of artwork.

It's really hard to believe that you have not been doing fantastic art your entire journey.

Because it's.

I mean, when I think about you and I think about the murals that you're doing and all this fantastic work you're doing for the community, it just seems like that is something that has always been with you.

Yeah, when I was a kid, I always drew.

I loved drawing and.

But I mostly kept to myself.

And then I remember in middle school, and it was so frustrating.

Cause the art teacher was giving me a critique, saying, oh, you're drawing your lines too lightly.

And I remember getting so mad that I vowed not to take any more art classes.

So that was the seventh grade, and I did eighth grade art.

And I was just like, no, stupid.

I don't want anyone telling me what to do.

And like, I sort of.

Like, I have, like, this defiant streak about me sometimes that I think, like, people might not know.

But, like, my husband definitely knows.

But like, mostly I keep it in check.

But most of the time I'm like, you know, screw the man, you know.

And so to me, the art teacher was the man and I wasn't going to be told what's what.

And so, yeah, I haven't taken an art class since the eighth grade.

And so I, I think maybe I wouldn't have gone along the way I did if I had gone a traditional route anyway.

I think just being very self taught and then also taking my time with it, it's.

I haven't tried to push my career at all.

It's just sort of happened over time.

And I think that all the things that have come out of it is because of that patience.

And so that's what I mostly tell people with any.

Anything that they're doing in their life.

That's the only like, thing I can part is like the patience part.

Because everything does anything good takes time.

It's true.

It's true.

And I think Rochester lends itself to give you the space to have a little bit more time, a little bit more acceptance.

At least that's been my perspective on it.

Yeah.

I'm kind of curious though, like, when you moved back, I know we've talked a lot about visual art, which that story is very interesting.

Yeah.

But as someone who moved away for so many years and then came back, I'm curious, how did you start stepping into the music scene here?

Because it's so much different than the art scene.

It was hard.

It was, that was the harder part.

And so I actually, I'd been asking around for some years and unless there's no way to like show anybody, like, hey, I can play music, you know, like, as, as opposed to like visual art.

You're like, this is what I do.

And someone's like, yeah, like, but with music you're just sort of like, hold on to this thing until like you have a moment to show it off.

And so there was Girls Rock coming that was going on.

But I had heard about it, but someone like had told me about a good friend and they're like, you should get involved with it and you might meet some friends who might want to play music with you.

And that's actually how I met Joey.

Yep, that's how we met.

Somewhere around there.

Yeah.

And yeah, it was.

Yeah.

Oh, wow.

And now she's graduated and now she's in College.

Yeah.

So.

So what?

What is that organization?

So about it, Joey.

So Girls Rock is a 501C3 non profit.

It is a music camp for girls and queer youth.

So the kids come to camp for a week in the summer, they spend all day doing instrument instruction, going to workshops and they form a band, write a song all in a week and then at the end of the week they have a showcase, perform their songs.

That sounds awesome.

Like that just seems like a great opportunity for people just to be around people who want to do cool stuff.

It's wild as Scar can attest.

Also it's incredible what the kids, Even the like 8 and 9 year olds come up with.

Yeah.

And it's also, I don't know, it's just like you don't.

Again, taking chances.

You don't have to be an amazing musician.

You can show up and someone can help you play or someone can, you can just watch or hang out.

And I think that's such an important thing especially for, you know, people that are starting to get into the music scene.

Yeah, it's, it's a, it's a really daunting thing.

I think out of all of the different things I've done over the years, it was the one I had the most difficult getting into.

Not to say that like it was.

There weren't as many spaces or opportunities to get into music here, especially at that time.

I mean a lot has changed in the last five years.

Even.

A lot has changed even in the last two years, even in local music.

So you know, it was definitely a lot of a.

It was a boys club and the, and I'm not like talking bad on any of those bands.

Like a lot of those bands are like some of my favorite bands locally and stuff.

It's just that there wasn't like intent to make room for a lot of different.

A diverse group of people.

So.

And this is pre transition, so I'm presenting as a woman and no one wants a woman drummer.

And so I'm just like okay.

And like I never played in a band before.

I'd been playing, I self taught on drums.

When I was living in New York.

I used to take like.

Eventually I started taking lessons with this guy in a basement of a motorcycle bar and.

And I did that for years and then like moved back to Rochester and I like tried like so hard to make connect.

Like even in New York I tried to make connections to play drums with and it just never worked out.

And so doing Girls Rock really helped out a lot.

Meeting people and Then I actually.

And then, like, just jamming with people.

And then eventually one of my best friends, Ian Egling, I was one of his first clients when he started Kitty Box Press.

And so one day he's over at my house dropping off shirts, and he's like, oh, you have a drum set.

And I was like, yeah.

He's like, you know, I used to be a rock star myself.

Which is so Ian to say.

He's so funny.

And like.

And I was just like, oh, really?

I was like, we should jam sometime.

He's like, oh, yeah.

So we started jamming.

And then.

Then he started vacation days.

And then.

And then we were on pause.

But then once vacation days ended, he's like, hey, I hear about another project.

And that's how we started chores.

The birth of chores.

That was the birth of chores there.

So let's talk about chores, your band for a moment.

Tell us about.

Pick up.

Pick up from the birth of chores and tell us about the evolution of shores.

Yeah.

So Ian, a friend of his, was starting a new band and was a shoegaze band.

And this is before we had our little explosion of shoegaze bands.

So I'm gonna chime in occasionally with, I don't know, music.

Can you define what shoegaze is for non people who are deep into music?

Yeah.

So it started after post punk, a little bit after new wave.

And you have bands like the Stone Roses and things like that that were using a lot of pedals in their music.

And so they would look at their feet a lot because they're constantly just like, doo doo doo loo.

And so then they just called them shoegaze music.

Okay.

But then they started using, like, pretty offensive location, like, well, which even, like, my band were trying to take back more like shoe gays, you know, because we're all gays, so, you know, get it.

Yeah.

And.

But it sounds.

The sound is always very, like, droney.

I like to think it's very, like, song heavy.

It's not so much as, like.

There's maybe like, like, psychedelic music where it'll go on for a while and stuff like that.

That's like.

It's very, like, lyric heavy as well.

A lot of, like, depressing themes.

You gotta be sad to do shoegaze.

So Noisy, Noisy Bay.

I think that's.

That's right.

Is that like, all the shoe gays?

Like, whatever.

Do you have to wear shoes?

Like, is that a requirement?

Yes.

Okay.

And only vans, I'm sure.

Vans.

Or Chucks.

Chucks.

Like in my head, the visual I have for this is Chucks with like a really messy pedal board and like wire spaghetti is happening.

I don't think any of the bad Bloom pedal boards look like that.

No, they're very organized.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

That's a whole other story.

So sorry to interrupt the journey with this musical history moment.

No, that's okay.

Hey, but go ahead.

Education is it.

There's this guy I watch consciously on Instagram.

He's always like, education is elevation.

I'm like, yes, yes, it is.

He's super dope.

So chores.

And so.

Oh yes.

So we started practicing, just through Ian and I and our friend Alex.

And then he just.

We were looking for was it.

He said, oh, yeah, I have a friend of mine and he wants to play guitar.

He's always drumming, but he finally wants to play guitar in a band.

So is our buddy Dylan Stock.

And then we're like, we really.

We should get a singer.

And so then I.

My.

One of my best friends, Heather Swenson, who had talked about for years, like, I really want to sing in a band.

One day I was like, buckle up, this is your time.

And so then I like.

She's like, no, I'm too scared.

I'm like, you're coming.

Just sit.

You don't have to do anything, you know, you don't have to join if you don't want to.

And so then the next day, like the Instagram got updated and she was added onto it.

I didn't, I didn't do it.

But she's like, I guess I'm in the band now.

Like, yes, you are, I guess.

And so yeah, then after a while we came became a four piece.

So it's just myself on drums, Ian Egling on bass, Dylan Stock on guitar, and then Heather Swenson on vocals.

And we went on like that for a couple of years until Dylan moved away last year to Virginia.

And then Heather went to grad school in Philly.

And so we were.

We had some holes and it was just Ian and I and we were thinking about breaking up chores altogether and just starting a whole new project.

And then a friend of mine was coming to town G.

They have a musical project called Calicoco and they live in Long island right now and they're extremely talented.

And there was already a three band bill at Bug Jar.

And I was just like, if Ian.

Because Ian and I wanted to see if we could do it just the two of us.

And we played that show and Jen was at that show and saw us And I guess she was impressed.

And so saw Jen Wemling, and she's also in Bad Bloom.

She's also in Croy.

She's very in demand guitarist.

And I say she's the best guitarist in Rochester.

But I would, you know, I would agree.

Yeah, she's.

I mean, if you haven't seen her at all, you should go see her because it's.

It's something else.

So I.

I talked to her after we got off stage, and I was like.

Because I had saw some Instagram videos of her shredding, and I invited her to a practice and she came and she shredded.

And immediately I was just like, so you're in the band?

She was just like, well, what do you all think?

And before Ian could say anything, because Ian and I are pretty good about.

Let's take a moment.

We'll talk about it tomorrow.

And I just forewent that.

And I apologized afterwards because it's important to talk to people.

Consent and all that.

But I was like, join now, Jen.

I was afraid to lose her.

And so.

And that's how we got Jen.

And we've got an album coming out next month.

I think it's amazing.

And so that's what's going on with Chores.

I.

I love not only like playing drums in it, but it's.

I don't know, as a drummer, being able.

I mean, I'm allowed to write songs.

That's great.

You know, that's like unheard of.

No, it's not.

Nonheart of.

But, you know, that doesn't usually happen for a drummer.

It's usually like, okay, you stay over there and drum and, you know, when you're bored, just like, spin your sticks.

So.

No, that's great.

I've heard some of the new Chores stuff, and it's incredible.

I encourage everyone listening to go check out Chores.

Also.

Fun fact, if my memory is correct, the first Chores show, Bad Bloom also played.

Yeah, it was Bad Bloom's first Rochester show.

It certainly was.

Yeah.

That's awesome.

And speaking of coincidences, we're gonna go to break and we'll be right back.

All right.

We're coming back from break and just want to take a second to let Scar, let everybody know what is the best way to listen to the band and when they should roughly expect to hear the new music.

Yes.

So we already have our first single off the new album out called Here Again.

You can listen to that on all the streaming services.

The easiest way to find us is to go on Instagram.

We are Chores, the band and you can also find us on Facebook as well.

Our first album will be coming out October 24th and it'll be coming out the same day we have the record release show at Bar.

Bad ending with great new space.

So cool.

Yeah, they're all doing a great job there.

The food, you can eat it and not get sick.

Feels really good.

And yeah, the.

The space feels really good and everything sounds really good too, which is like also a really important thing to me.

Even though it's like a smaller space, like, like it's like, I don't know, feels really good there.

So he cares really hard about music, which is a great thing with any venue that they care about how it sounds.

And I always, I'm always going to ask this question, where's the place you want people to listen to it that best supports the band?

Probably Band camp.

That's probably the best way.

And we have that linked in our Instagram account also.

I think it's an important thing to always talk about.

It's like, hey, how do you want people to listen to it?

Yeah, to support the band.

Because, you know, some of the big services don't really support the bands.

No, they don't.

No.

And that really show.

We will having Cheap Kids with us.

Yay.

And then also Comfy will be releasing their album.

So it'll.

At that show.

So it'll actually be a double release show.

Double feature.

Yeah.

Double album day.

Yeah.

Yeah, I know.

I don't know if I've ever been to a double release show, so it's cool to be in one.

Yeah.

I think that's going to be a big moment.

It's the.

A collection of the finest.

Right.

I mean, you know, I.

We asked those bands to be with us because we're big fans of them as well.

So it'll be really nice to share stage with Cheap Kids, which we have earlier this year.

And then we did share stage with Comfy earlier in the year as well, but I had Covid, so it was just Ian and Jen playing.

So it'll be nice to like, you know, get that show in with Comfy and have a good time.

Yeah, I was at that show.

You were missed.

Definitely.

You know, our last show we just played, it was only Ian and I because Jen had Covid.

So now we have to have it so that Ian gets Covid and then Jen and I will play.

I think that's like, if we can.

I don't want to, you know, Ian get Covid, like, so we can.

As someone that sees Ian every Day.

I do not wish him to get Covid.

Ian is a very hard worker, but that's why he is the best printing press in the city.

That's right.

So I want to go back to talking about change in Rochester.

And while we have a lot of good things happening, I wanted to talk to you about what you think needs growth.

Where do you think that we could change a little bit harder or make things better for musicians in Rochester?

Yeah, certainly.

I think even just not.

Not getting too deep, I think there should be a lot more support for bands playing at venues.

We put in a lot of hard work and to walk away with no money can be a little bit frustrating because, like, it means a lot to us, what we're doing.

So I think, yeah, just having more support from venues would be really great.

I know it can be really hard for venues, so I'm not discounting that.

It's not a hard time, especially since most of the venues here are indie music venues.

So I think they're probably.

I think where we're missing is like communication between bands and venues because it is a little bit lacking.

And I feel like I don't know where or how that would start, but there's definitely like a bridge that needs to happen between the two and then getting a little bit deeper into that.

Like, there's been like a representation that has been getting better here, but could be a heck of a lot better.

And I think just continuing on that direction is going to be better for everybody.

Everybody's just going to get better music.

And you know, when people can express themselves, you're going to get a better experience.

So if people are going into spaces and not feeling comfortable, obviously it's just going to create like a not comfortable environment.

And so I.

I'm glad to see more queer people and more people of color and more women in spaces, in the music spaces.

But even then, like, it could still be a lot better.

I know other than myself, there's one, like, I started seeing Rick playing bass around town and he's like the only other trans masc person I know, I personally know in the music scene right now.

And for a while it's just myself.

So it felt pretty lonely.

And so I think even just like all of us doing our part and like representing different parts of our community and showing the diversity of Rochester, there's younger people who can come in and see themselves up on stage and then can see us place for themselves.

And so I.

It's not only just that, but the type of music that's being played as well.

It's sometimes like.

And I love.

I prefer rock music, but I feel like there can be better representation of different styles.

And I've been seeing more country music, which is really cool.

It'd be cool to see more hip hop out there, more R B, just like represent the city a lot better.

Because I just feel like that, I mean, what we have one of, like, the greatest radio stations in.

WDKX is one of the.

Is the first black owned New York radio station in New York state.

And I think not acknowledge, like, it feels like the music scene doesn't acknowledge that, like, that music as much as it should.

So I think that's where I'm mostly at.

Like, we're.

We can definitely do a lot better on diversity and a lot better on community, definitely.

Yeah, we hear you.

I think it's.

Yeah, like you said, there's a lot of good things happening, but there's.

There's always room for more of that to.

To happen.

Right.

And this isn't like a dig at Rochester.

This isn't a dig at anybody.

It's just like, we could.

We could totally do more.

We can take on more.

We like, it's definitely within our capabilities.

So.

And I asked the question.

So I was asking for, you know, it's good to know what you can improve because I think as individuals, we look at big things that are out of our scope that we can't.

We can't tackle, but things like this, we definitely can.

Being in local bands, being connected to the community, these are things that we can.

We can move in a positive way.

And I think that's the purpose of the sounds and that's the purpose of this show.

So there we go.

Yeah.

Not to get too deep, but who do you think is a change maker in Rochester?

Oh, I mean, this person is always my number one when it comes to that.

And he's not so much in the music.

So are we looking like, mostly at the music or just like, all around?

Go for it.

All right.

He's the reason why, while therapy existed, he's the reason why we have a skate park downtown.

He continues to show Rochester a lot more love than I've seen out of anybody.

And I think that people who don't know who he is, like, should and because he's definitely got, like, open arms for everybody.

And I wouldn't be where I am as an artist, as a musician, as a skateboarder without him.

So definitely Like, a lot that's happened around this city he's to thank for, but he's always behind the scenes, and a lot of people don't.

Won't know it and.

But like, those in the.

No, no.

Yeah, it's.

It's fascinating how much he's influenced and how purposeful he has been and not being out front in the last few years.

He's been very purposeful about it.

If you want to hear our whole interview with Eric, Molly Darwin did a great interview on behind the Studio Door.

Did a full hour with Eric.

You get to really learn about him.

He's just got a frenetic mind.

And also when you mentioned all those things, his influence is hard to under, hard to over represent, and that all the things that are going on now are an evolution of what he did before.

And it's amazing now to see the next generation of people picking up that mantle and creating their own things.

And that's why this kind of thing is exciting, is because there are the people before that did the work, and now it's up to all of us to do great things, too, and to carry that responsibility and try to make Rochester a better place.

Yeah, definitely.

And that's the thing.

It's like we have all these people that are doing those things, and we're so lucky to have that.

And I think, like, even going back to the Brooklyn conversation, like, I was there for 10 years and I had a great experience.

It's just that you here, you know, you can literally go to someone's house and say, hey, I need help with this.

Even with this podcast.

Hey, let's all meet up and talk about this stuff because it's important and it's.

And it's nice.

I embrace that so much.

I love every part.

Yeah, the amount of community here is.

It's wonderful.

And I.

Because of how my art and just even do, like, my hobbies and my, like, doing skateboarding has become very.

I do it alone.

And I spoke about this in my interview in the City magazine last month.

Is that community?

Rochester?

Rochester's music is where I find my community.

And just going out to friends shows and being able to always see somebody I know and catch up and then show my music to friends.

And they'd be like, what do you think?

Just that back and forth, it means a lot.

And I can't overemphasize it enough.

That music is the thing that saved my life through my, like, medical transition.

So I really don't think I would be here if it weren't for this music community.

We're happy that you're here.

Yeah.

I think you're one of the people that I run into most frequently at shows as well.

Yeah.

And you're always so happy.

Hi.

It's like, I don't know, at a show.

Like, I feel the same way as a transplant.

I'm not from here.

I moved here from Boston a couple of years ago.

And the music scene definitely is so approachable.

It's like a social gathering.

Like, it feels like a community.

And you're definitely someone where if you go to a show, if you've met like, a couple of times, you're always so positive and excited to say, hi, how's it going?

And you always remember something to bring up, so I don't know.

Yeah, no, I'm genuinely excited for people, period.

I just like, you know, like, whatever's going on with your life, like, I want to know about it.

And I also, like, want to, like.

I feel like maybe in my early 20s, I might have, like, been a little bit jealous of people and where they were at in.

In my 30s.

Like, I have no, I'm not a jealous bone in my body.

I'm just excited for everybody.

I like, I just want everyone to good.

Like, and tackle the world and.

Yeah.

And for us all to, like, share in that excitement and happiness.

So I think just like, living in a world where we're just excited for each other is like, where I want to be.

That's the best.

That's the greatest feeling.

Yeah.

I'm gonna pass it to Joey to ask you the last question.

Oh, the last question.

The one I was very glad you put on here because I was thinking it.

Anyway.

So, Scar, who is your favorite Rochester.

Band at the moment, other than chores.

Not including bands you're in.

Yes.

Okay, so.

And I'm only going, like, based on what I've just been listening to constantly over, like, the last month.

And I can't stop is cheap kids.

I just, I can't.

Like, they're like, so good.

Their live show is so good and I'm obsessed.

And please don't tell them that.

Like, you know, if I do have any jealousy, like, I'm.

I'm jealous of their sound.

It's.

It's.

But mostly like their live show, it's just.

It's a head banging good time.

So they're so fun.

Can you describe.

Can you describe their music?

And then you mentioned.

I could tell it.

You have a lot of feeling.

Yeah.

About.

About them.

Like, can you describe what they sound like and how it makes you feel.

So they're.

They kind of remind me of like a early Jimmy Eats world.

Like, this is.

I'd say it's more like Mid to late 90s emo music, Midwestern emo music, but it's got like.

Like, kind of like slight paramore vibes to it.

And.

But as a drummer, like Raf, their drummer, like, brings it and so.

And like, he play as any.

Compared to any other local drummer, he plays the most similar to my style.

And I think that's also what, like, really draws me to their music.

I can't help it.

You know, drummers rule.

So is there.

Is there a specific technique you listen to that you're like, oh, I'm gonna have to try this.

Whoever just, like, hits really hard and with a lot of emotion.

Like.

Like, I'm really emotion.

I like emotional drummers.

Like, and that's where, like.

Like, I don't know.

I'm an emotional guy.

Like, and, like, so I'm really angsty when I play the drums.

I'm like, just die drums and so that I'm trying to.

Trying to destroy them.

So.

And Raf plays that way, so I'm just like, you know.

You know, game recognizes game, you know, and so.

But yeah, they're Jose and Kristen.

Like, Kristen plays bass and sings, and then Jose plays guitar for that.

Yeah, it's just.

It's.

It's a really high energy with a lot of stops in it that, like, you're like.

And then the music comes back in, then you just, like, jump and it's.

Yeah.

So I'm really excited to have them for our record release show.

Yeah, I pushed for it.

I mean, not that, like, you know, Ian and Jen were against it.

It's just that I was just like, so, like, we should really have cheap kids.

Yeah.

So I'm.

I'm a fanboy.

Yeah, for sure.

That's amazing.

Well, do you have any final words as we wrap up or anything else you'd like to talk about or say or tout before we go?

Well, even just like, where you can follow me and my music and my art is Flower Pale Kids.

It's F L O U R P A I L K I D S.

There's a dot com if you want to go to the website.

There's an Instagram that's those words and Facebook and whatever.

And so I'll update about whatever I'm working on, whether it be electronics or music or painting.

So it's all there.

Well, that's great.

Everybody Go follow Scar.

Thank you so much for being on the show today.

Thank you for tuning in to our show today.

And we will have more amazing things to come.

So, Kate, where can everybody read about what's going on in the music scene and follow what you're doing on the sound?

Sure.

So you can follow the sounds at.

At the Sound Rock on Instagram.

Instagram.

And we also have a website, thesoundrochester.com the website has a bunch of music resources, a band's artists database, a venue database, music stores, everything that you kind of need in the community.

And then I also post the weekly roundup of all of the shows that are happening in Rochester every week.

There's also a submission form so bands can submit their shows, preferably a week in advance or more.

Yeah, that's awesome.

So this is so amazing to be here for this inaugural interview.

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