Amy Sikarskie and Reverend Luna traverses the intricate realms of energy healing and psychic development, inviting listeners to reflect on their own spiritual journeys. The dialogue is marked by a sincere exploration of the challenges faced by those who identify as empaths or sensitive individuals, particularly in a world that often dismisses such qualities. Luna shares her personal narrative of overcoming shyness and societal expectations to embrace her psychic abilities, asserting that everyone possesses a degree of intuition that can be cultivated with intention and practice.

The episode further emphasizes the significance of self-acceptance and the necessity of setting boundaries in both personal and professional realms. As the speakers discuss their experiences with clients, they illustrate the transformative impact of recognizing one's own energy and the importance of maintaining a clear separation from external influences. This theme is particularly relevant in the current socio-political climate, where collective anxiety and emotional turbulence can overwhelm even the most grounded individuals. Through their candid exchange, Amy and Luna provide practical insights and strategies for listeners to navigate their own emotional landscapes, encouraging a journey toward empowerment and self-discovery.

Takeaways:

• The journey of becoming a healer often requires overcoming personal fears and societal judgments.
• Each individual's spiritual journey is unique and consists of various lessons and growth periods.
• Maintaining personal boundaries is essential for empaths to manage the energy they absorb from others.
• Self-acceptance and awareness of one's own energy are critical components of spiritual development.
• The significance of establishing seniority in one's life leads to greater empowerment and clarity in decision-making.
• Connecting with nature and the energy of the Earth can facilitate profound healing and spiritual growth.

Resources

Amy & Luna will be channeling April 13th at Orykl Channeling Summit: Anchoring Light in Times of Change, which promises to be a gathering of like-minded souls dedicated to fostering healing and connection through shared experiences and insights. They invite all listeners to join us in this enriching complimentary experience, as we collectively navigate the path of spiritual growth and self-discovery.

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• Activating the Starseed
• A Messages for Starseeds & Lightworkers
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Amy became interested in healing modalities at the age of seventeen and began her professional training in 2001. She is the founder of Spirit School where she offers channeled messages, meditations, courses, and certifications in intuitive communication and energy therapy through online and in person classes.

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FOREIGN welcome to the Spirit and Soul Healing Podcast.

I'm Amy Sikarsky, master energy therapist, channeler, mentor, and friend.

I'm so happy to connect.

I hope you enjoy this episode.

FOREIGN.

Hi, everyone.

This is Amy Sikarski.

Welcome to the Spirit and Soul Healing Podcast.

I'm so happy you're here.

Thanks for tuning in today.

We're going to have an awesome conversation with my friend, Reverend Luna.

Hi, Luna.

How are you?

I'm good.

How are you?

I'm good.

It's an awesome day.

We've had a lot of storms that have cleared out, so the sun is shining.

I know.

I think that's everywhere.

Yeah, it's really getting active here.

Yeah.

So I'm so excited that you're on the podcast because we've met.

I actually had a session with you that was wonderful.

Oh, thank you.

Yeah, you're welcome.

It was.

I.

I felt like also, you know, like, when you have readings and then you come out of it, you're halfway here, halfway in this other spiritual space.

And so.

Yeah.

So I feel that afterwards we were talking, and I felt like we had a lot in common, and I remembered that from.

From, like, the part outside of the set session is that we got to chat about our experiences and channeling and healing world, and that we had quite a bit in common.

So I was so excited to bring you on the podcast and get to learn a little bit about you in this space.

So if you want to share.

Yeah.

With.

With me, of course, and our listeners, just a little bit about your background and anything that comes through.

Yeah.

So I'm Rev and Luna, and I am a psychic, but I, you know, I realized there's so many.

And it was so cool meeting you because there's so many people who have so many different abilities.

And so for me, why I always say everyone's psychic.

Right.

And it's just a matter of if you believe the information or not.

But for me, I realize I'm super empathic, and I think, you know, a lot of people are empaths, but I feel and read energy, so that's what my kind of specialty is.

So when I did the reading for you, I kind of looked at your energy and your chakras, and I looked at, you know, things like past lives and programming and stuff like that.

But, yeah, and it's so funny because I have always been psychic.

And honestly, it's not.

It's really been in the last 10 years that I've accepted it my whole life.

I grew up, and I was a really really shy kid.

Like, I was so scared to even raise my hand in class because the thought of everyone, like, looking at me at once, I was like.

And now I realize, like, I couldn't handle all that energy, like, focused on me, and it just freaked me out.

And so I would have these, like, very, very intense, like, psychic, metaphysical, paranormal, whatever you want to, like, say about them, like, once a year or, like, twice a year.

And then I would just totally block them out of my memory.

And I would just be like, oh, that was such a weird coincidence.

And it was literally, like 20 years of this when I was finally, like, maybe I should, like, do some more research or learn some more about it.

And, you know, I was always really interested in reading books about it, but I always like, oh, that's not me.

Like, I think these psychic people are so cool.

And then I started doing classes, and it took me a while to find the right, like, program for me.

So.

Yeah.

And so now I do readings for people.

I teach classes.

My really big goal is teaching other people how to work with their own energy.

Because I know for me, growing up, that was just such a hard thing to understand, like, what it's like to be sensitive in the world today.

And I.

So my goal is really to teach other people how to.

To manage that and deal with that.

And.

And.

And it makes you more psychic, too.

So that's just an added bonus.

Yeah.

It's so funny, everything you're saying.

I feel like you just described my life.

I was very shy.

Yeah.

I have things I would want to say, you know, but I was very quiet.

I was the quiet one in the class.

And then later, I guess in life, I think it's just when the timing is right and we have the right space, you know, because I am sensitive.

Yeah.

And so we can feel so much as children.

I think a lot of children can.

Like you said, very psychic.

We're all psychic, but to different degrees are.

You know, can we be more sensitive to things?

And so I was sensitive, too, in that, you know, like, there's the shy, the reserve part, but the sensitivity of what if I'm not accepted?

And.

And that was something.

Yeah.

I really had to.

I had to learn.

I had to.

I grew through those experiences and pushed through.

Even in elementary school.

Some memories are flooding back in right now.

Like, really they are.

But now as an adult, what I realize is that that helped me.

It was a part of my life because the work that I do isn't always accepted.

So I had to learn that inner trust.

And my frequency and what is my truth versus the others in my reality.

And I think that's a big part, you know, the healer's journey they talk about and the awakening experiences are spoken about and becoming a healer, what do we do and the experiences prior to them being comfortable offering our services to other others.

And so it just like that parallel to your story.

I really.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, and I, and I agree.

I'm so grateful.

I grew up on the northeast in New Jersey.

And I always say that's like a tough place to grow up if you're a shy, introverted kid.

Because people, people are very direct and to the point.

So as much as like, I don't live there now, but I really appreciate that.

I grew up there because it showed me like, it kind of forced me to learn how to deal with my energy.

And for a long time I really just blocked everyone else out.

And I was just kind of this very kind of serious.

I worked in the corporate world, corporate person.

And then it took me a while to realize, oh, I'm really like blocking out all of my energy.

Like, this isn't healthy for me and it's really draining me.

So I kind of was like, I feel like I was in a way pretending to be someone I, I wasn't or I was pretending to be what I thought was accepted.

And so it took me years to realize, oh, like this journey for me, just like you're saying, it was very much about self acceptance and being okay with other people's judgments or ideas.

I mean, I didn't even really talk about it in the community that I live in.

I have two kids and I was always worried like, are they gonna get a hard time?

Like stuff like that.

And so I had a really, like, I talked to them about it.

One kid is like, kind of okay with it.

One is like, yeah, don't even talk to me.

Which is fine because I never want to push it on anyone.

I'm always like, if it resonates with you, great.

And so now like some other parents know about it and some don't, but I don't even try to hide it.

Now I'm like, it's just who I am.

And it's so funny.

I live in the San Francisco Bay area and you would think people here, like, everyone has this perception of San Francisco, like, oh, everybody's like that.

And there are a lot of people.

But I could tell you if I, you know, if I did an announcement at my kids school, I think people would be like, oh, interesting.

Like, some of them think it's funny.

Some of them think it's like a party trick kind of thing.

But I'm like, no, it's like, it's a very deep spiritual calling.

And I feel like the work that I do with people has, like, really amazing spiritual healing.

Like, I feel so great about the work I do because I know it really helps people.

And that's what I come back to.

I'm like, you know, you can.

I don't care if you make fun of me or if you don't believe me.

Like, it doesn't.

That doesn't bother me at all because I know at the end of the day, it really helps people.

Yeah, I.

I so agree with you.

And it makes me smile because one time I was doing a cross post from Instagram to Facebook, and my Facebook page was not my business page.

It was my neighbors.

It was like, you know, my kids, their classmates, parents.

Yeah.

And all my community in that way.

They didn't know what I did.

But I posted, like, you know, something regard me doing psychic readings or energy healing, something like that.

And then I didn't know until later I went on, and a lot of people responded.

I was like, oh, I guess they all know now, but they had positive feedback.

And then the people that you could feel just kind of looking at you like, what in the world?

I'm like, well, it is what it is.

Move along, you know, like.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it's so funny because I've done that too.

Like, also by mistake, where I was like, oh, shit.

Like, I.

But then I'll get great responses and I'll get great validation, like someone who I know, like, you know, will need my help.

And I'm like, oh, I'm so glad.

Like, it was worth it for all the people who, like, if they want to make fun of me, that's totally fine with me.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, my gosh.

This is amazing.

See how smiley I am?

It's just so fun to connect.

So, okay, so I had a thought that came through.

So when did you.

You said that, like, you're corporate.

You know, you've been working in the corporate space.

Yeah.

Yeah.

When did you step out into offering your services publicly, your spiritual healing services?

Yeah.

Well, I mean, it was a process because I, you know, I got really burned out from working in the corporate world.

Once I had kids, it was fine.

I had two kids, and then I was just like, oh, my God.

I kept feeling like the universe was pulling me away, but I wasn't quite ready to do, like, the psychic work.

So I was doing kind of like my.

I would say, like, it was coaching, basically.

It was like, mindset coaching, right?

And so.

And even at that point, I didn't really accept my psychic abilities.

But it's so funny because what I was teaching, I was.

I have a.

A sale of a sales business called the Quiet Selling Method.

And it's really about the mindset behind selling, right?

Because I always sold as an introvert, and I was really successful, and that was great.

And then it's so funny.

So I developed this whole program.

And then once I did my.

I did, like, kind of psychic training for two years out of school in San Francisco.

And all of these tools that they taught us to use were the things I was already teaching that I thought I kind of, like, figured out in my.

In my sales mindset business.

And I was like, oh, I've been teaching this already.

So it was so great because I was like, I was doing this, and this is what I'm doing, you know, because it was just different concepts about, like, I call it having seniority, which is really having confidence and, like, kind of owning a situation and staying grounded and, you know, having gratitude.

And there were all these things, but I was like, oh, okay.

And it was like my worlds came together, and then I was like, I.

And it was also validation for me.

So I would say I did start.

My first entry was really past lives.

For some reason, I've always had a really easy and just affinity for seeing people's past lives.

I'll, like, you know, go to the doctor and the receptionist will say something, and I'll, like, see all these past lives.

And I don't like to read people without permission.

So I would just be like, okay, no, thank you.

I wouldn't share the information, but I would see it a lot.

Like, even when my kids were little, I would be sitting in their room if they didn't want me to leave, and they were trying to go to sleep, and I'd be sitting there in the dark, and I would see all these, like, past lives with my kids, and I was like, whoa.

So I started out doing that as kind of as part of even that sales consulting business.

People knew I was kind of into that space, and so I started doing that.

And that was probably like, I guess, 10 years ago, but I didn't officially, like, launch my own website and do all of my.

The, like, the readings and have, like, a company that did that until I graduated from this clairvoyant school and.

And really it was because I was scared that I didn't understand all of my abilities and I wanted to make sure that they were like being used in the most responsible way and that I wasn't like, I wasn't really worried about myself because I don't get depleted when I do readings or have any issues like that.

But I wanted to make sure I was like serving people in the best way.

So that school, like I, it didn't really change my abilities, but it gave me a framework for how to understand everything and give and it gave me some great language to explain it.

Oh yeah, that's so important.

All the bells are going off.

Ding, ding, ding.

Yes, yes.

Oh, it's so important.

Yeah.

One time.

Well, let me just say that I feel a lot like you where I would have things come through and then I would say to myself, okay, I want to make sure I'm getting some professional training in this because clearly it's happening and let me make sure like everything is just structured accurately in my sessions and if there's anything that maybe I'm overlooking or missing.

So I really, I really felt called to get mentors and like even reading books and stuff so I'd have in person classes and all this.

And so one time I met a healer, I guess they're a healer reader on social and we were just dming, like chatting with each other and they said, no, I haven't had any formal training at all.

And it surprised me because they were just, you know, like the way they were presenting themselves was that they were a professional reader who have done this for a long time.

And like, I get it.

But then my thoughts were like, but you haven't had any mentors along the way.

Like, don't you want to make sure that you're feeling or just, you know, double check our.

Ourselves.

There's so much that can come when we're working with spirit and energy.

Right.

So I totally understand what you're saying and I feel like that's a strong message to anybody that's thinking about this.

Like I would highly recommend classes or a mentor, some kind of training because there's a lot of stuff that can be like unknown and when you have the foundation for it, you're going to be better prepared for if something did come through in a session.

Yes.

Yeah.

Like especially just even the way of how you, how you word, how you deliver messages, especially sensitive messages.

So.

Right.

Yeah.

I'm on so many forums and I do think it's important.

I mean, and actually I just met someone this past weekend who said, oh, I had the psychic reading and this person told me something, you know, really terrible.

And I'm like, whoa, stop right there.

Like that.

First of all, if something's terrible, there's something wrong.

Because when I'm reading, I'm always in a place of non judgment.

So there's nothing like, you know, first of all, I would never tell someone something they weren't ready to hear because I'm connecting to their higher self.

Right.

And so I always tell, you know, sometimes people are scared to get readings.

And I explained to them, I was like, I'm only going to see what you're showing me.

If you're not ready to see it, I'm not, I'm not gonna tell you.

And, and if there was ever even a doubt, I double check in my clairvoyant space and I asked myself, is this person ready to hear it?

So I, you know, that is something that I really trained in.

And so now I lost my train of thought.

But.

But yeah, I mean, I think that it.

Oh.

So I, Yeah, so I do hear people say that all the time.

And, and I hear people who don't get training.

But the other big thing that I notice is people don't know how to separate from energy.

And so I train a lot of other psychics and people who have, even people who have gotten training, I notice, don't always get this part of the training.

But I always say the most important thing when you're merging your energy with someone else to do a reading, or you're working with like a spirit or you're channeling, like you have to have a separation process after or else, you know, because everywhere we go, and this is a big thing I teach in my energy mastery is like we take on and we leave energy everywhere we go with people, places, things, right.

You know, sometimes someone will buy a weird table in an antique store and then they'll be like, oh my God, my house is haunted.

And I'm like, yeah, it's the table you bought.

You know, so I do tell people, like, just make sure you separate from the energy.

And it can be just as much of an intention.

Like I have a very short process.

But yeah, I think, you know, for me that's such a big thing because that's only how I can manage day to day.

Right?

Is me separating from like the collective energy.

You know, I remember during the earlier stages of COVID when everyone was so scared and I kept tapping, I kept getting like, my heart would beat super fast.

I felt like, super anxious.

And I'm a pretty calm person in general.

And I was.

And I, you know, I was home all alone.

We were home all alone, not going anywhere.

So I was like, what is this?

Because I felt such heightened anxiety and I realized, oh, I keep connecting to the collective.

And so then I was like, okay, I gotta separate.

And once I was able to separate, because, you know, I, you know, I think most psychic or empathic people naturally connect to other people's energy.

Right.

Like, and that's why people are so attracted to us.

Right.

They meet someone, they're like, oh, like you're gonna take in my energy?

And we do it naturally, but then we have to be as cautious about separating from it.

So that's what I think is so important.

Just for every person, every human.

Right.

They'll learn to separate from outside energies.

I'm just feeling back to that time.

How was that was a rough time for everyone, Especially for sensitives and paths.

Yes, yeah.

Went through that.

Yeah.

And I'm kind of like, honestly feeling that away a lot now with the kind of political stuff that's going on.

You know, either side that you're on, there's still so much discord and like, anxiety.

So I, Yeah, I've been doing a little extra meditation on that lately, just trying to, to separate and being like, okay, that's not mine.

Like, that's, you know, I feel like every.

There's a purpose for everyone to go through that.

But, you know, I don't, I don't like to feel the energy that's not mine.

Right.

And get swept away with it.

Exactly, yeah.

I feel you there.

So this is one of the foundational aspects of working in the space with readings or healings even.

Even if you're a hypnotherapist, because that's what I do that for past life stuff.

And whenever you're working with anybody, especially I would say, like in a spiritual connection, but also day to day life.

And so people that might be empathic and really sensitive to energy and not know what's going on.

I know until I figured out what it was, it was really hard to navigate.

Like, I would feel pressure at my heart, kind of like anxiety, but not exactly.

Or my chakras would get twisted and I feel like I have to vomit.

You know, I just, like my body would respond to energy and then this just feeling of frustration have to like, shake it off.

And so, yeah.

Oh my gosh.

Like, do you, do you meet a lot of people and what are some of the signs that you see in your, in your clients when you're with a client or mentoring a student.

Yeah, yeah, that's a great thing.

And I think that to me, and it's so funny because I feel my, this is my opinion, but I think that we always attract people that are very similar to we, how we are.

Right.

So I meet.

So two main issues come up for me all the time.

And this is the clients that are attracted to me.

So it's like a boundaries thing, right.

Either they're feeling a ton of energy from other people or from the collective.

So I get a lot of people who are like, I'm so upset about, you know, something and I don't know how to shake this feeling.

So.

And that's like a couple different situations.

It could be a really intense romantic breakup.

It could be like the death of a loved one.

Right.

And not just a person.

It could be like a pet or something like that.

And then.

Or it could be, you know, a big life change, like, oh, I, you know, left this work job or I got fired and I'm just, you know, I'm like so devastated more than I think I should be.

Right.

That's kind of what I hear people say.

Like.

Or I just, I'm having such a hard time, like, why is it already a year and I still can't get over this person or the situation.

And so that's a big one.

And that's really has to do with.

Yeah, like you kind of merge energies with something or a person or a group or a place.

Right.

And then, you know, there's something there for you.

Right.

There's a, there's a reason.

A lot of times I see there's like past life connections or there's something, you know, I feel like at the very, very core of it.

And I know this is what it is for me.

It's a self love issue, right.

It's like, okay, well this has to do with you, right?

Like, how much is this, what is this reflecting about you and the way that you love and accept yourself?

So I feel like for me that's the core of everything.

But I don't know if that's everybody, but that's definitely for me.

Yeah, but that's the big issue.

And then the other big one is what I call seniority.

And I was talking about this before and this is such a big thing for me.

So my idea around or the concept of seniority and some people don't like that word, but I do.

It's like, you own your Space or you own a situation.

So I'll give you a couple examples.

Like, you go to the doctor and he gives you a diagnosis of something that's really negative, right?

If you give up your seniority, you're just like, oh, my gosh, you know, said, I have six months to live.

And, you know, like, this is it.

I got to make my plans.

I'm going to tell everyone this sucks, right?

That's not having seniority.

A person who had seniority would be like, okay, I want to take control of this situation.

I want to get a second opinion, learn more.

Or, you know, even if they do accept it, they take ownership of it, right?

Because maybe.

Maybe it is their time.

I don't know.

But people don't realize they can take seniority over any situation.

So you have a ton of anxiety around something that's going on in the world, right?

Or something that's going on in your family.

Like, as someone who has teenagers, I find this happens a lot, right?

You're, like, super stressed out about what.

Your kids are doing.

You're like, okay, let me take ownership of the situation.

And that doesn't mean you can own someone else's part, because I always say, well, you can't control what someone else does, but you can control how you react to it.

So, you know, for me, if I have a really bad, you know, interaction with someone or someone takes something what I said the wrong way, I'm like, okay, I can't control.

Maybe that person doesn't like me, but that's their own deal.

I don't know.

But I can control how I react to it, right?

So I.

That's another big reason people will come to me.

Like, I just am really upset.

And, you know, I always say the opposite of being senior or having seniority is kind of going into victimhood.

And I don't.

I feel like that word is kind of overused and it's such a negative thing.

But we all do it, you know, sometimes.

And, you know, I do it, you know, if in certain situations I just am like, oh, this sucks.

And then I notice it in myself, and I'm like, okay, I'm kind of, you know, being a victim here.

I'm gonna, like, step up and my earphones falling out.

I'm gonna, like, take seniority of the situation.

So that's another big thing that I see people come up with.

I just did a reading for someone who has so many beings around them and spirits, and I told them, I was like, well, you are the one who has A body, right.

You can decide, like they don't have a body.

Like if you don't want them, you need to be in your body and like, you know, you have to take ownership of it.

You're not taking ownership, you're letting all these different beings come in.

And so I get really passionate when I'm talking about stuff.

But I was like, you are senior.

It is your body.

You don't need to get give anyone else access to it.

So yeah, there's all, you know, that's an extreme situation, but that's a big thing.

Those are the two issues that I love dealing with because there are issues that I deal with all the time.

And I think that's why I attract people like that.

Yeah, yeah, that's.

Oh my gosh, so many thoughts I have.

I'm feeling everything you shared.

And then in that, like I can relate to it or I've had sessions like this as well.

And there's one thing at the beginning when you were mentioning, like maybe it could have been another person or a place, some kind of experience.

And it was the idea of leaving energy there or having their energy with us.

And so when you were talking about seniority and then having the lack of it, I was feeling that giving your power away.

Like, are we standing in our body?

We have our energy present?

Are we confident in owning the space which is our body and our aura?

Like owning our space, our life or giving our power away?

And I think sometimes just that awareness or perspective and that questioning, could this be.

It really can clear up a lot of confusion and it helps to realign the energy.

I know that when we do energy work, like Reiki or hands on, you know, any kind of energy work, basically we can go in and move things around.

But I've also clairvoyantly seen many times when a reading comes through and you deliver the message, I can see their energy reorganizing and aligning.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kind of like that.

If they just realize, oh, wait a minute, you are right, I did give my power away then.

Yeah, gives us a way.

Yeah, I've seen people do that like in a reading, right?

Because I always do a little healing at the end of my reading and I try to move all the energy out that doesn't need to be there and then I'll try to, you know, heal the energy.

But sometimes I get to the end and I see like, oh, you've already been like doing this as we've been talking.

Right?

Because I've been connecting with their higher self.

I'm like, wow, great job.

So, yeah, it is nice when that clicks.

And that's why I think it's so great, because our higher selves are so, like, you know, they're so amazing, and then they just, you know, sometimes something just clicks.

And.

And that's why I feel like, you know, even though everyone can heal themselves, it is so helpful to have another person look at stuff.

And.

And if I can help, you know, someone have that moment where their higher self is like, yes, like, that is true.

Let me, you know, like, get rid of that energy then.

Yeah, I'm so happy to help facilitate that.

Because I always say I don't even do the healing.

I.

I always say I work with your higher self for you to do it.

And I'm just holding the container because I always say, like, I'm just.

I'm just transmitting information.

Like, you're like, this reading is like, really, you're talking to me.

I'm just the translator, right?

Unless I'm channeling, then it's a little bit different.

But, yeah, so I love that because I, you know, I feel like a lot of people put psychics or spiritual people on a pedestal, and.

And I'm like, this is really you, right?

Like, this is like, I, you know, I.

I appreciate that you listen to me, and if that helps, great, but I'm not any.

You know, I'm just translating what your amazing higher self is telling me, and then you're even healing it.

So I'm like, great.

You're doing all the work.

I'm just.

I'm just here as a translator.

Oh, I love what you're sharing because it makes me feel like, yes.

Especially from, you know, somebody in the field.

I respect people who step out of, like, step out into the unknown, if you could say that, you know, and advance in their spiritual practice, following their heart to help people.

And, like, there's a level of respect there.

But that experience of, like, worshiping.

Oh, no.

You know, I just get all kinds of.

Does not sit right with me.

And as the practitioner, when you can feel somebody kind of starting to take that approach with us, I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no.

Let's realign.

You know, this isn't about me.

This is about.

This is just information.

This is you and God.

You and your past lives.

And we're here to help bring some clarity and a perspective.

Maybe we didn't.

They didn't have.

And that's why, like, I like to go to healers because I feel like we, like, I Know, for the most part, the struggles that I'm going through and what's kind of going on, but to just have guidance or support or somebody to hold the space for the energy to align.

Yeah, really supportive and really practical, even.

I think I can get a lot more done if I just make that a point appointment.

And then there we go, answers come through and energy realigns and it's perfect.

I really loved our session that we had, so I felt like a lot of shifting during and after.

Yeah, it was amazing.

And so I have to ask when you.

So I don't actually remember most of our.

The readings.

I do.

Do you remember?

Like, I do it.

And I actually set the intention to forget because first of all, it's like personal information.

And I'm always like, my brain doesn't need that.

I have so much stuff in there.

So I always, like, kind of intend to forget it.

But then, like, people will be like, yeah, remember you told me that?

And I'm like, I really don't.

I don't remember at all.

Yeah, I don't often either.

When I'm channeling the.

Like when I'm channeling for the group, the collective in a setting, then I remember quite a bit more because it applies to me and applies to everything.

Right.

But one on one, I don't.

And it's really fun because a lot of.

Well, 99% of my sessions that I offer are by phone, so I don't have video.

And I learned early on that it just helps.

Helps me.

Helps me to tune into the energy specifically.

And I don't make any human judgments like, oh, you know, age, gender, wherever their house looks, this kind of way.

Nothing.

I don't get any information but their name.

So that's how I work.

So sometimes I'll have clients come back and I'm in the middle of it, and then I start having the memories of the last time we worked together because I see the pattern again.

It's like I recognize the energy again.

Yeah, I.

Yeah, I have that too.

Yeah.

If it's relevant, it will definitely.

It'll come through.

Yeah.

But I don't.

So.

Same.

Sometimes people will say things and I'm like, oh, can you remind me a little bit again, please?

And then bring my awareness to that specific topic or intention and that.

That really helps.

And likewise, sometimes when I'm in healing sessions, I just release and surrender and it's like I'm out of my body a little bit because it is the higher self.

So I'm aware of higher Self having these conversations and moving things around and getting answers.

All the healing that's needed.

So then when I come back in through the integration, it's nice to have, like, a recording or something to.

To listen to again.

So then it becomes more part of my grounded human awareness and emerges.

But I do know in the experience, I can feel the energy and so much is happening.

So for me, typically, it's that emotion.

It's that shift I can feel.

And then the linear facts start to, like, unwind and kind of like domino's effects over the next few days.

It's like they just start to fold out in front of me and I can put it all together as a part of that integration.

Yeah.

So.

Yeah.

Well, one thing I want to mention, because I just got a real big ping on it when you were saying, you know, about how it feels uncomfortable when people kind of, like, give you their seniority.

Right.

Or whatever.

And I think that's a really good thing for people to know.

If you go to someone who is a reader and who kind of is telling you what to do.

Like, I even have a strong belief that I don't like to even give advice.

I'll give them a next step, a suggestion, but I never give advice.

And I even put that up before some of the books.

I'm like, you know, here's the things I don't tell the future.

I don't give advice.

But I think that's a really important thing for people to know that if they feel like a person wants to be put up on a peasant stole or wants to be worshiped or is really just telling them what to do, that's like a really big red flag, because I've even had psychic teachers like that.

Now looking back, like, they were not the best teachers because they kind of were doing it from a place of ego.

Right.

Instead of really trying to help, like, the.

The school that I did the most training in, like, even if you asked a question, they'd be like, I don't know, ask yourself.

So they, like, never really give you an answer.

And I was like, oh.

But now I look back and I was like, they're right, because I have all the information.

Like, we all.

We all have all of the information that we need, you know, and it's just a matter of getting it.

But I do think that's important for people to recognize that.

Yeah, if they feel like someone is behaving like, you know, they're superior to them, especially from that perspective, like, that's a big red flag.

It is a big red flag.

Yes.

And I remember I have an instructor, Dan Bufo, and he's actually lives in California.

He came to Texas to train us.

It was my advanced class.

It was amazing.

And he would do that.

I'd ask a question a couple of times and he'd be like, well, what do you think?

And like, push, put it back.

And I loved it because.

Oh.

I mean, at first I was like, oh, oh, really?

You know, I'm thinking, as a new student, you have all the answers.

And he was really wonderful in helping us discover our own gifts and the answers for ourselves.

So I definitely feel that.

Yeah.

And there's that aspect of mentorship and in the readings as well, like in the guidance of.

Well, there's these different options, and the choice is really up to us.

Or, you know, we would say to our client, these are the options that your team is sharing with me.

So, like, the way I work is I don't get any answers, typically unless their team is sharing it.

And for the most part, if they are, then I'm giving them the information.

But that, a lot of that, actually, in that kind of a stream, when it comes through is when I'm doing the healing work.

And the guides will say, like, how you were sharing about past lives.

They'll say, oh, this is related to past life, or this is related to that relationship or this age, you know, go back to age of 12 and that kind of a thing.

But.

But, you know, that's already happened.

So we're not taking the power out of their, you know, we're not taking it like we are owning the energy or the outcome.

And.

And it's just really describing, like you're sharing earlier about kind of translating the information and describing what we're receiving, but then from there, the next step is for them.

So, yeah.

Yeah, I love that.

Yeah.

And I love how you said that, like, they have different paths.

Right.

Because I always say that too, because people.

People love to ask me, well, what's going to happen?

And I'm like, well, like, that's why I don't tell the future.

I was like, you have all of these choices, and, you know, it's usually not just you.

Right.

Another person or a group or various parties have choices.

And I was like, well, it depends on, you know, what you all want together.

So there's always options.

And that's why I also.

Oh, I mean, I think so many people look at it as a negative, like, oh, you can't tell the future.

I'm like, no, it's great because that means anything can happen.

Like, don't you see that?

Like, you can actually decide and, you know, if you want a totally different path, like, you get to do that.

That's a great thing.

It really is.

So, yeah, yeah, I know there's some people, like, who are.

I don't know, I've seen these books or someone showed me some book recently where there's some guy who really talks about how every.

He has a philosophy.

Well, everything's already set in stone.

Like, you can't change anything.

And it's funny, he was like.

I think he's like a Stanford, like, professor, wrote a book.

And I was just like, that could not be more wrong.

But I'm like, okay.

I mean, but I was like, someone, I guess, needs to have that experience to believe that.

Great.

You know, maybe you need to have a life where you do believe that to go and then, you know, review it and then be like, oh, I thought I didn't have choices.

And, you know, now I do.

So I'm always like, there's a purpose for that.

So even though I was like, I didn't publicly.

Well, I guess now I am publicly.

But I was like, I'm not gonna say anything.

Because I was like, some.

Some people, if you're called to that, maybe that's the journey that you're having.

Right.

And I don't want to judge that.

I'm like, that's the experience.

If that's a lifetime where you need to learn that, then that's something you need to learn.

Great.

Right?

It's their truth for that moment.

Just like things can change our thoughts and opinions.

And certain advice that I need in different chapters of life, you know, is going to shift in the next space that I'm in.

So that makes a lot of sense.

But of course, you're bringing up this whole life review part, which I.

I love that because I look at things a lot like that as well.

Oh, my gosh.

You know, I wonder what it's going to look like looking back on my life at the end of it.

And there's so many thoughts that can come through.

Right?

Yeah.

And I know for me, because I dove so much into past lives before I even did the psychic work.

I, like, I saw, you know, talking about kind of fear of judgment, especially coming out with, like, psychic gifts.

I mean, I saw so many lifetimes where I was either like a witch or a healer or a medicine woman.

And I, you know, many times I was, you know, heard or killed or tortured.

Or whatever because of those things.

But then I look back at, like, the lives where I was so happy were the lives when I spoke my truth.

And I look at them even, and some of them did not end well, but I was still like.

So I just remember, you know, I can feel the feeling of how my spirit felt completing that life.

Like.

Like, I spoke up, and I spoke my truth, and I owned.

You know, I took seniority over my life.

And that.

That to me was, are those to me, are, like, the greatest lives.

And that's, you know, why I'm like, you know, even though when I get scared, I'm like, okay, that.

That, you know, yeah, you can be scared, but I don't want to go through more lives where I regret, you know, not kind of sharing.

I mean, of course, if you're burned at the stake, you couldn't really control it.

But I think, like, we're back past that stage.

So.

Yeah, you know what?

Even if that does come back again, if I share my truth, because, you know, the.

I would say the most painful life I saw was when.

When that did happen and I denied my own gifts.

I denied them to, like, the public, to save myself, and then I actually ended up believing it.

So I was, like, this really amazing.

And that one, like, just every time I think about it, it breaks my heart because I denied who I was to myself.

And I was like, man, that was.

You know, I lied in public, but I actually believed it.

And that's why I'm so careful about what I say out loud, because I was like.

It was like I had brainwashed myself.

And I'm like, that's why it's so important to not just speak your truth privately, but to speak it publicly.

Because it's almost like a reinforcement, I think.

Totally.

Yeah.

It's taking our power back.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It really is.

And thinking about some of my past lives, that's interesting.

Were those the ones that first came up for you for the.

The challenging ones?

Okay.

No.

I mean, I feel like I don't know what your experience is.

I'm like.

I feel like 90% of them are challenging.

And I guess it's because I'm looking at what, you know, there's good things about them, but I am always looking at, like, hey, why do I have blocked energy around something?

So I'm always looking at, like, hey, what was a core issue?

Like, why is this coming up again in.

Right?

And it's like.

And I'm sure you see this, too.

It's like an onion Right.

You deal with some stuff on the surface, and then you go deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper.

And it's like, a lot of the same issues, but you're like, oh, I thought I was over this issue.

And you're like, nope, I'm still dealing with, like, the fear of judgment or the fear of, you know, using my voice.

And it's just a different past life.

So I feel like those have come.

Sometimes I do set an intention to look at, like, a positive past life.

If I'm just all, like, kind of in a rut, I actually will go and I'll think, like, what are some, like, gifts I had in another lifetime that I can call on right now?

Because I'm, like, really struggling.

Like, I have ADD and I'm really bad at managing a lot of stuff.

Yeah.

And so I'll be like, I know there was a life where I was, like, super organized.

And so I remember seeing this past life where I was, like, a professional, like, cellist, and I was, like, like a musician.

And I was just so great about, like, consistently doing my practice and, like, you know, doing my, like, playing music.

And, like, just I was so dedicated.

And so I always am going back to that one.

I was like, I know how to do this.

I really do.

I just have to call on that.

So.

But to answer your question, no, they're always.

They always come in at different times.

So I feel like I'm always uncovering more, and I'm like, how.

Gee, I'm like, how many times am I going to deal with this?

But it's just, you know, I guess there's no limit, apparently.

Apparently.

Right.

I feel you.

Yes.

So I think it's about the intention and the space and what we need.

Because my first past life that I started.

Yeah, I started going into was where I was a healer, but it was, like, positive.

It was like remembering my gifts and seeing how I was working energy and all of this.

And then lifetime's not on earth and a lot of messages there.

And there was some heaviness in that one, but it wasn't the focus.

And that heaviness didn't really, like, become highlighted till later on when it was like, oh, what's coming up in this life?

And I, like, a few things that came up in this life I wasn't really expecting, had the past life ties to them.

But my healer, yeah, I went to see her, and she's like, oh.

And I'm seeing all this.

You know, it's kind of cool working with another healer.

Because she'll see a piece to it and it matches what I've seen and then the puzzle.

Yeah.

Ye.

So I was like, really, man, I thought, like, you know, we'd be past this by now.

And like you said, though, it's just.

It's just the same theme.

Another person in another lifetime or a layer deeper, you know, like a continuation.

And so having that awareness, although it can be, let's say, just like, really intense.

It was for me, very intense.

And it took a lot of my energy and effort to, I guess, like heal or get to the bottom of it all.

But it was many lifetimes, man.

I'm so glad I did because I just feel like a whole different person after we.

We get through it and we heal it and we.

Yeah, especially like, it really does.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It really, really changes kind of.

Yeah, everything.

I mean, and I can give an example of this.

I.

I grew up going to church, right.

My parents weren't super religious, but, you know, I went to church.

We were Lutheran.

And.

And then I started seeing all of.

And I think I see this still now.

A lot of people have a lot of programming from religion and from the church.

Right.

You know, and.

And I saw so many lifetimes where I worked in religious settings and I gave my seniority up to the church and I, you know, hurt people for it.

I hurt myself.

And so I had.

I kind of had this very negative view of just religion in general.

Even though in my mind I was like, well, having faith is so important.

And it was like I had all of these lifetimes where I saw these really, really kind of horrific religious pictures.

And then it wasn't until very recently I saw a lifetime where I was a priest and I loved it.

It was like the most fulfilling, beautiful, like, amazing lifetime.

And I feel like it healed all of this kind of pain I had around, like, religious programming.

Because I feel like, you know, that doesn't come from the religion, it comes from the people and the way that they use it, it to control people, you know, so it's not really the religion's fault, right?

Or the people who have faith.

It's not their fault.

It's the, the people who are using it.

And so that to me was like an amazing kind of wrap up of that because I was so.

Even.

I wouldn't say I was anti religious, but I just had a lot of like, anger around, like, even Christianity specifically, because I had seen so many lifetimes where I had been punished for different things and.

But that one was just.

Just seeing My lifetime as a priest and like, the community I worked with, like, it touched my heart so beautifully.

I was like, this is amazing.

And I was just so grateful for that.

So that was a really cool experience that I had.

And that was like.

I think last year I saw that.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, it feels like it's healing, deeply healing.

I can feel that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it makes me, like, I get so fascinated and curious and there's a mixture of emotions when it comes to religion because it's the same.

Like, I grew up in a strong religious family community and left it because, you know, what I do wouldn't be accepted.

And healers in that religion were the men.

And I'm like, well, hello.

Right.

I'm a healer.

Like, I do hands on healing.

So.

So it was just a whole different situation.

But then later on in life, I hear about people who.

Their different religions kind of honor things like speaking in tongues or mysticism and even like mystical Christians.

And then I think, like, how is that any different than all these people that were persecuted for their gifts would label as like a witch or a heretic?

You know, like all these things.

And I'm just like, oh, gosh, you know, that's just, man, these are the people in power for whatever ego trips and all of, you know, control or whatever.

But.

Right.

Yeah, I feel you there.

There's a lot, I think, that many of us, especially if we've had many lifetimes here, can find.

We're healing those religions, I don't know if we want to call it stories, programs, imprints, everything that's there that goes back many lifetimes just to heal that.

And I think, like, you're saying, like, coming into your seniority and that authority of.

Of your life and who you are and honoring and respecting yourself is a major part.

Part of that.

You know, it really.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I feel like there's a couple things just.

Yeah.

As a human that we encounter.

There are such, like, amazing life lessons.

Right.

Like, just money is one of them.

Right.

Like your relationship with money.

Religion is one of them.

Right.

You know, like, I just feel like there's a couple of these core issues where you're like, you know, what.

What is.

Like, what's the purpose of this?

I've looked at it so much, especially from a sales perspective, like, what's the purpose of money?

Right?

And I.

And I always look at it, and then I look at it and I'm like, oh, it's neutral.

It's like, it's not the money.

It's the way we perceive it or the way we allow ourselves to believe about it.

And I keep seeing it, like, you know, it's like it's a symbol or it's like a tool for us.

And same with religion or faith, really.

Right.

And then I feel like these things are so powerful, but they can be used in different ways.

Right.

Like, faith can be used in such a beautiful way.

I mean, when you think about, like, the power of prayer, people talk about that, and that's.

I mean, I so strongly believe in that.

When everyone together is praying for something, like, it really does shift energy.

But that's also because of that power.

That's why people have tried to manipulate, you know, religion and stuff like that.

So.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's really fascinating.

Yeah, I feel you there.

I do.

Young, like, going back to energy and the prayer and that is the same.

It's.

Sorry, go back to money.

Money.

See, I already can feel it.

So to me, it's just energy.

It's like.

Yeah, it's like the money is energy.

Prayer is energy.

But, you know, our time is energy.

Our light that we're sharing is energy.

And so it's a way to confine it and direct it in a certain path.

And then that can be used for good, neutral, or, you know, with nefarious intentions.

But I think that's one of the biggest parts of living on Earth is that duality.

And how are we.

How are we implementing our abilities and our choices and then navigating through all the options?

Yeah, yeah.

And we have so many choices.

Right.

And.

And to me, a big thing, especially with money, is kind of the.

The programming that we get around it.

Because I always say, like, there's.

We get so much programming from media and from just society.

And, like, you know, living here is very different than if you, you know, grew up in a small, you know, tribal village in Brazil.

You're gonna have a very different idea of what life is.

And so I always, you know, tell people.

And that's a big thing I see in readings, too, is, like, how we've been programmed to behave as women, as, you know, Americans who live in this corporate culture, as, you know, humans, as people who, you know, use money.

Right.

There's.

There's so much programming, so it's really.

It's.

And it's, you know, it's almost impossible to get around that, you know, And.

And I think anyone who has kids, I'm sure you've seen it.

You'd, like, even.

I remember my daughter, when she was really young, she'd be like, how come the rich kids are always mean in the movie?

And I'm like, exactly.

I was like, very good point.

And I'm like, don't you know people who have money, who are nice, like.

And she's like, yeah.

And I'm like, huh, I wonder what that is about.

And she, of course, is like, yeah, what?

Whatever.

But.

But I'm like, yeah, like, you know, if.

If you're recognizing that.

A kid.

As a kid.

But I was so glad she noticed that.

So I'm like, yeah, we get that all the time as women.

Like, oh, my God.

Like, you know, what we're supposed to be doing or what's acceptable or, you know, all of that.

It's just.

It's kind of overwhelming.

Yeah, it really can be.

It can be.

And, you know, as you're sharing this, it's like, yes, it can be.

All of us can be.

And so then it.

It's.

I feel the mom the morning time.

Like, when I have my spiritual practice, when I wake up in the morning, like, we come back to ourself again.

And then just like, if I let myself get lost in all of this, it'll be so overwhelming.

It's kind of like, let me just stay focused on my life and you, like, my immediate family and close friends and my sessions.

Because I think we can get so lost in everything, especially right now.

The collective energy.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

All of that.

Like, the.

I mean, it's.

If it sticks or not.

It's a form of programming whatever's out on the airwaves as well as what we're feeling in the psychic field of people's emotions and thoughts and responses to it.

So, yeah, my guides will just, like, that's why we tell you, like, it's one of my foundational practices to release what isn't mine and kind of put that boundary up.

So I'm just focusing on my path and not getting distracted.

And that's not being.

Cutting myself off from people or being selfish.

It's actually helping to conserve my energy so I can utilize it for my intentions for the day and not feeling so spread out or things, you know, like, you get mixed up in the emotions.

You can really get mixed up in the emotions.

Yeah.

And that's why, you know, a big thing, because people, especially who get worried about politics or whatever, and I just tell them, like, or.

Or even kids or relationships, I'm like, the best thing you can do is just live your life to the way that believe it should be lived and I'm like, you're a reflection, right?

Like, everyone will see what you're doing.

Like, the best thing you can do to impact other people is just to live your truth and live the.

The life that you want.

Because you can't change other people, right?

You can't change what they believe.

You can't.

And not that you shouldn't speak out if you think something's wrong, but you can't change another person.

All you can do is, like, live the life that you want to live and feel good about it, like, because that's.

That's the only thing you have control over.

So, yeah, I mean, I feel that overwhelm.

Absolute.

Because I look at the.

The state of the world, and I'm like, why?

You know why?

And I'm like, okay.

Like, all, like.

And, you know, there's a lot of theories that would say that we're.

We're creating it all, and we're, you know, it's all just our illusion.

And I'm like, okay, if I.

I don't even have time to wrap my head around that right now.

So let me just focus on me.

Yeah, yeah.

And believe that, like, my little mini world is like, the whole world, because I do kind of believe that.

That.

So.

But that goes back to your point.

You really just have to focus on yourself because that's the only thing you can control anyway.

So that's what I always come back to.

I'm like, I just try to focus on me, and then, you know, I do have kids, so I'm like.

And I just want to give them guidance.

I can't control them either, so I just want to give them a safe space and support for what they need.

And then, yeah, I can.

You know, I.

I just want everyone else to learn the lesson they need to learn, because I can't.

Yeah, I can't support the whole collective, which to me is actually, like.

I don't know.

That's like a hard.

That was a hard acceptance for me early on in my spiritual work, because I think I really did want to save everybody.

And I think a lot of spiritual people do have that idea, like, oh, I want to help everybody else.

And then you.

And then it took me a long time to see.

And this was what was so great about the training.

And I did.

They showed us.

They were like, okay, visualize if you did that.

And then you see, like, first of all, you can't.

And in the process of doing that, you completely deplete yourself and give away your energy.

So it doesn't help anyone.

So it's, you know, once I kind of was able to grasp that, I was like, oh, it's even more important for me to just take care of myself because that's what it comes down to.

Definitely.

One time on social, I posted this quote about, you know, like, we're not here to save the world or something like this.

And somebody responded quite angrily, like, very aggressive.

What do you mean?

Don't tell me that I'm a Reiki master.

I am here to save the world.

Like, I take all these clients and I'm like, oh, gosh.

You know, so I feel like, okay, it's like, how are we?

How do we understand these words?

Because I do feel like we all are here helping, but it's not a one person job.

Like when we keep our energy bright and clear and we're supporting those closest to us, it will have a ripple effect.

And then we connect other healers and it's like there's so many amazing people out here that are holding a space of peace and compassion and like shining light.

And it can be any type of culture, community, religion, whatever it might be.

And so in that way, then yes, we are.

And we don't have to take all of the responsibility on.

Because like you said, it's not even possible.

Yeah, yeah.

And I love that.

Yeah.

What you said, because we can't heal and that's fine if she, you know, I'm sure that like that person will learn that lesson eventually.

But yeah, that is so important for people to know, especially people who do like spiritual work.

Because.

Yeah, it's just, it's, it's.

Yeah, it's very draining.

Yes.

Can be very, very draining.

And there was something else.

Oh, okay.

So when you were speaking about, I'm just going to call it like the chaos that's going on around us on the world stage and all of that.

Yeah.

You know, like the mantra that's been coming through in my mind the last few months and then it just did again was like, just watch.

Like, just let it be, Watch it unfold.

Stay in our peace, stay grounded, stay calm.

Focus on what's brought to me that day that I have a say on, you know, like something that I can help directly with.

Otherwise it's kind of out of my hands right now.

Meaning, like if the moment comes and there's an action item or something, I can vocalize and share, I will.

But me, like frustrated in my home or somebody yelling at the TV like, that's nice.

Just expensing your energy So I think, like, that's one of the.

That's one of the.

I'm hearing, like, a spiritual truth.

A spiritual practice is how to know how we navigate everything happening around us, and how do we.

When we're going to share our energy, in what way do we do so where it's actually meaningful and healthy.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because there are times when, like, anger is healthy.

Right.

But in, like, the case that you.

The example you just gave.

Right.

If you're going to yell at the tv.

Right.

About something that you can control, it's not.

Yeah.

It's not really helpful.

But you're right.

It is really kind of a spiritual lesson for you to go through.

Right.

And I think even, you know, like, you see kids go through this, and, like, I think just watching kids grow up is such an amazing, like, miraculous thing because you see so much.

It's, like, so reflective.

Every little thing they do, you're like, oh, my God, that's like a big life lesson.

Yeah.

But, yeah, you know, like, they're trying to put a block in a.

You know, a square peg in a round, you know, block or whatever that little game is.

Right.

And then they get so frustrated, and then.

Then they learn, like, oh, like, that doesn't make sense.

That doesn't go there.

Or that's, like, not a.

You know, I don't need to be angry about it.

I just have to figure it out.

And I feel like that's.

That's life.

Right.

Figuring out, like, I don't have to fit it in there, and I can't force it.

So I can just, like, pause for a minute and take a breath and.

Yeah.

Figure out a different way to approach it.

Right.

And that is exactly, like, what I.

I think is so important about teaching people.

Like, that's working with your own energy.

Right.

And that's saying, like, I want to redirect that anger or use that emotion, that frustration, in a different way.

Right.

So it aligns and it makes sense and it flows.

Yeah.

I'm feeling it.

Yeah.

Yes.

Our.

Our children are grown, and we just had a conversation because our son visited.

They live out of state, and he's in college, and so he came home for spring break.

And so my husband and I, yeah, we were just like, wow, like, watching the two grow up, it's like.

Like them becoming their own.

Having their own path, and you have to step back and just, like, support and watch and love.

Yeah.

Like, all.

You know, we're all such beautiful individuals and.

And, like, kind of like what you mentioned My kids, they knew when they were young what I did as a job, but I didn't push it on them.

And they know, but it's not their path.

And even though if they are super in tune, let's say they're going.

They feel drawn to go into their spaces.

And it's not in the spiritual.

The spiritual field for work right now, and maybe in the future, I don't know.

But just watching the.

And so they have found their path.

They're aligning, you know, like they're.

They're in their flow.

And.

Yeah.

So I just wanted to share that because that's actually a theme that we just were processing.

We were talking about this a few days ago, and.

Makes me smile.

Yeah.

And it.

And it's so.

Well, I feel like.

Well, for me, it's easy because it's my kids and I.

And I love them and I want them to be happy, so I don't try to steer them in a certain way, but.

Yeah, but it makes.

I have so much more compassion for other people then, who are like, oh, I have to do this, or, you know, it has to fit in this certain way.

And then I'm.

You know, it just.

It's interesting.

It just gives me more compassion for other people when I see them going through something or, you know, you see people who are forced to do a job that they don't really enjoy or, you know, and it's.

It's tough, but I just have compassion because I'm like, yeah, it's hard, but it's.

It's also.

Everybody has their own lesson.

I did a lot of different things.

And, you know, for me, in my life, there was, like, a lot of trial and error, and I was like, you know what?

If I hadn't done these different.

If I hadn't worked in the corporate world, I wouldn't know that.

Hey, that's not really the place for me.

I don't really enjoy that energy.

I don't enjoy a lot of things.

But if I hadn't.

But I also got things out of it, right?

I got.

I learned so much about myself, and so I'm.

I'm grateful that I did that because it was really important for me, and that was part of my path.

So I never want to steer, you know, my kids or anyone into something because I'm like, you know, or people will ask me, well, what should I do?

And I'm like, that's kind of the wrong question.

It's more like, what.

What do you have the opportunity to learn right?

So.

Because I always say everything is a learning experience.

Because I.

You know, I'm sure you hear this a lot.

A lot, too.

But I hear a lot of, well, why did this happen?

And, like, why did this relationship end?

Have to end.

Why did this job have to end?

And I'm like, well, I mean, ask yourself.

But also.

But, you know, there was a lesson there, right?

And now you're ready for a new lesson, so that's actually great.

You're.

You're growing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, yeah, I would say nothing.

All of our experiences bring wisdom.

Truly.

Like, there's been no wasted experience.

We're gonna leave with something.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's one school I took classes on and know they call it a growth period.

And so everyone knows, like, oh, you know, you go through these different growth periods in your life, and they would say, happy growth period.

And we're kind of joking because we're like, this is really freaking painful.

But they would just end every class with, like, happy growth period.

And you're like, oh, my God, I'm dying.

This is just the most frustrating time.

I'm like, okay, thank you for the reminder.

Oh, that's awesome.

Yeah.

I think that reminds me of a few of my growth periods.

Like, definitely new.

Like, we know when we're there.

Oh, my God.

Right?

Well, I'm so excited that we got to connect, and then you and I are going to be a part of Oracle's, their summit coming up in April.

Yeah.

I'm so excited about that.

Yeah, I am, too.

Yeah.

Who are you channeling?

Okay, so I'll be channeling the Council of Light and Amazing.

Yeah, I'll be the last one to go.

So I'll be hosting.

I'll be there.

Yeah.

Beautiful.

So it'll be fun to.

Just to see.

And then Allison will go first.

First.

So I forget who she's channeling.

And then.

And then.

You're near the beginning.

Yes, I am.

Yeah.

I usually channel the beings from Sirius B or the Hathors, but for some reason, Gaia has kept coming to me, So I think I'm channeling information from the Earth.

Okay.

Beautiful.

Yeah.

Interesting.

I was just sharing Sirius.

The Syrians came and visited me last night, so.

They're nice.

I love them.

Yeah, it was awesome.

I had this little headache, and they came in, helped me resolve it.

Yeah.

They're amazing healers.

Yeah.

And, like, the reason I love working with them is because they always give me very practical things for healing.

You know, like, they'll tell me, and it's always Something really simple like go buy fresh flowers and put them in your house.

Like the energy of flowers will, you know, help heal you.

And it's just always stuff where I'm like, like oh my gosh.

So yeah.

Oh, I love that advice.

Yeah, I need to take that advice for sure.

Yeah.

So and then all the Hathors.

Oh, I had an experience with them some time ago.

It's been a while.

That's, that's wonderful that you connect with them.

Yeah, yeah.

Only a couple times, but they're so full of love and light.

So.

Yeah, I kind of, I don't know, I feel like it always comes through for me the day before or like that day.

So we'll see.

Yeah, I know it's kind of like we ask people who are you going to be channeling?

Like really, like, you know, it's kind of up to spirit.

And also I find a lot of times, especially when it's for the collective, like it might change, you know, so like if we, we ask a few weeks in advance, well, what's going on on the world stage?

And like you just mentioned and I agree we all have a lot of say in how things are flowing.

It's not set in stone.

So spirit is also navigating and going to show up at that right moment for what is needed.

But Gaia has been a huge part of, of this.

I recently moved to a place that's more nature based so.

Oh, nice.

Yeah.

I've just been connecting deeper with Guy and I love it.

So I'm so excited to see, to see who comes through be so wonderful.

So definitely that's on April 13th and we'll put the information below for anybody who wants to join.

So it's going to be a great.

Yeah, it's free and when you sign up you get a chance to ask a question but you also get a gift from all of the speakers and there's eight of us.

So.

Yeah, yeah, there's some great gifts.

I know I'm doing a free like boundaries meditation.

So love that, love that.

I'm doing like a little mini class on channeling.

So like.

Oh fantastic.

Yeah, that's great.

Yeah, so it's gonna be.

See exactly like I just love this, the variety and also to fill all the light that will be there and then if others want to meet you, if they want to work with you in a session personally, like a one on one session or do you offer a group, group experiences.

Yeah, so I do.

So you can go to my website, reverend luna.com and I'm on like every social media platform at Reverend Luna, Facebook, Instagram, Tick Tock.

And I do do individual readings and I even now have like a thing where you can do a mini reading if you just want to test it out first.

That's like a 15 minute reading.

So I can do that.

I have a couple programs coming out.

One is called Energy Mastery and that's like a pretty advanced six month program if someone's interested in that.

That starts the first week of April and it's really six months where I kind of teaching them all of these tools and visualizations to learn to manage their own energy from the grounding and the seniority.

We talked about setting boundaries, working with your guides, all of that stuff.

But I'm also launching an app for Reverend Luna where there's going to be tons of free meditations and visualizations.

So if you're just interested in finding out more, that would be a great thing.

Just go to my website and you can find out more.

Awesome.

Oh my gosh, it sounds so exciting.

Of course I'm going to be checking it all out.

Amazing.

Amazing.

Well, thank you for coming on today.

Yeah, thank you.

Yeah, it was great chatting with you.

Likewise.

Yes.

And then I know we'll be staying in touch and we'll connect soon here in just a couple of weeks, so.

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