Jennifer Takagi:
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Welcome to Destin for success. I'm your
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host, Jennifer Takagi, and today I am happy to introduce Wendy
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Leggett. Wendy comes from us, from California. I believe
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you're right. Yeah, right. Okay, you're
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in California. Tell us where, and a little bit about yourself.
Wendy Leggett:
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Oh, thanks. I'm in Huntington Beach, California.
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I was actually born in Colorado, grew up in Washington State, and
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I'm one of those that we get to go to Washington on to
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California on occasion for vacation, and I lived for the
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sun, like the whole way there, I'd be saying, is it going to be
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sunny? And I'd be out there with beach chairs flying around
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because it's so windy, but I had to go back with a tan. So all
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that being said, when I got married, I said to my husband,
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the one thing is, can we move to California? And that's why, what
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brought me here, just the sun. So, yeah,
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I love that. I we I'm in Oklahoma, and we have
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a little lake place, and so every weekend, I get in the car
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and off I go to hang out at the lake. You're happy place? Yeah,
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yeah, exactly. So what do you do? How do you show up in the
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world? Who do you help? Tell me more.
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I appreciate that. I'm I'm a retirement life
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coach. I focus on the non financial aspects of retirement
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life planning. And it's interesting, Jennifer, because
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when I shared that with people, they say, Wow, what a great
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idea. I've never thought of that. How did you come up with
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it? And I think that there's not this recognition that this is a
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thing, and we've got more and more of a movement toward it.
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Because, as we know, so many in that baby boomer generation, of
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which I'm a part, are looking at retiring. And so it's really,
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you know, top of mind, like, what is that going to look like?
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And so my focus, and what's so important to me is the
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recognition that we don't want to just be one day you're in and
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the next day you're out. I don't know if you're a project, one
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way fan I am. So Heidi Klum would always say, in fashion,
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one day you're in and the next day you're out. And that can be
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with work if people don't think about it. You know that you've
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been in your career, you've been focused, maybe you have your
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financial house in order. So you think all the work's been done,
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and then it's going to be leisure travel and less
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weekends. And the reality is, and the study shows, that one in
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three struggle in retirement. But I don't know about you, if I
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before I started doing this work. If I'd say, you know,
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how's retirement going, generally, people would say, Oh,
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it's great, you know. And if somebody were to reveal that it
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wasn't, you think, Wow, that's crazy.
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Years ago, I think I was 23 so that was a few
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minutes ago, or decades, or whatever, and I worked at
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mortgage banking, and a gentleman in his 60s who had
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been vice president of a bank came to work for us, and we're
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visiting one day. And I was like, like, why are you here?
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What? What brought you it? And he goes, I've watched all my
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friends retire, and within drawing about 1012, Social
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Security checks. They're dead because they had nothing to do.
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Yeah? And I didn't want to do that in this job for me, based
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on my history and background. It's easy, it's low stress,
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because he was not in a management position, yeah, and
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he goes, I play golf one evening a week, because we get off at
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five, and I play every weekend, and I'm happy, and this is what
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I'm going to do.
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I mean, what an accurate and what a sobering and
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what a sad story, right? That people, because our work, like
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purpose, is built into our work, our sense of identity can be
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intertwined with it, our connections we you know, we
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don't even realize how many people we talk to and are on
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zoom with, or on calls or in meetings. And when we leave that
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behind, we can leave pieces of ourselves behind. And so to your
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point, that is what can happen with people. They start to feel
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aimless, they start to feel a disconnect, and then even a
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despondency. So that's that dark side of retirement. You know, I
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think it's either one side or the other that people think, oh,
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you know, it's rose colored glasses and everything's going
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to be perfect, or one foot into the grave. And what I want is
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really to bring it in balance. And what I call have a realistic
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optimism, be aware, be intentional, and then really
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move into action. I call it taking aim, you know, heighten
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your awareness, raise your intentionality, make make
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commitments and then move into action, get motivated. So
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I met a gentleman who is a pediatric
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plastic surgeon, and we got to visiting, and he said the number
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one cause of death with the elderly that cannot be cured by
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modern medicine is loneliness. And it was like, wow. And so I
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have a feeling that what you do helps prevent some of that
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loneliness, because if you have a plan for retirement.
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Retirement. Tell me more about that. Yeah,
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you're right. I mean, that that epidemic of
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loneliness is one that we're hearing about so prevalently,
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and it's, it's at all ages, but most certainly, as we get older,
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if we don't have that runway to retirement and elderhood, then
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we start to see the loss. You know, if we're not really
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putting ourselves out there, and connecting more than that social
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circle gets smaller and smaller. And so that is a piece of the
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work that I do. I really start with people, first and foremost,
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like the gentleman that you met in the bank defining what is
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retirement to me, because I've had clients come to me that are
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planning for retirement, and when we drill down and say,
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Well, why are you retiring? What? What are you retiring to?
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And what are you retiring with? Oftentimes it's they've gotten
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all this social pressure, or they just assume they turned
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6062, 65 that they're supposed to or maybe they're going to
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keep up kind of nudging them out. But the question needs to
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still be asked, What does it mean to you? How do you define
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it? Because retirement, the word should really be retired. You
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know, it doesn't really fit any longer in our society, but it's
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our common language, so we're using it right now. We'll come
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up with something else, and maybe your listeners will will
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message in and let us know some ideas, but, but going back to
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it. So this idea that we're going to leave work and then,
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and then what? And so that's what I focus on, is what? What's
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the impetus for leaving? And then what do you see for
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yourself? What is your vision? And so we look into, you know,
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what's a typical day and a typical week going to look like?
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And you've got this time abundance now, but if you
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didn't, if your horizon wasn't as long, you know, what would be
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the priorities? How would you really want to be spending your
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time? So that, I know that's a message you share with your
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listeners. Is that purposefulness and that feeling
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at your soul, you know? So the human being part of it, at the
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human dealing, doing part of it. And so we really then speak
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about, you know, what are your values, and aligning those to
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feeling purposeful, and what, what do you see for yourself
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that you want to leave to the world and gift of yourself? So
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we really step through, I mean, I'm kind of jumping around, but
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I've got a road map to it, and we really step through the
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elements that serve my clients to make sure that by the end of
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our work together, they do have, again, this awareness. They've
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set these intentions, and they are motivated to act on those
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commitments and clarity and conviction about this next
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chapter.
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Well, and it's it's so important, because I've
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heard people say, and I retired at a very young age because they
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gave me the opportunity to walk out the door or move, and I
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wasn't moving. So I retired. I like air quotes. I retired and
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started my own business, and that's why I'm here. I'm an
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entrepreneur now. And I interviewed somebody recently,
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and she said, Yeah, I didn't do well at retirement. I kind of
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flunked retirement, and now I have this business that I love,
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right? So you step into something you love, yes, but I
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have heard people say, like, when you're like, oh my gosh,
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you're retiring, what are you going to do? And you hear things
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like, Well, I'm finally going to clean out the closet. I'm
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finally going to clean out the garage. I'm going to paint the
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house. Like, I'm able to paint the inside of the house, I'm
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going to paint the house. And then you talk to him six months
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later, and it's like, what do you do? And it's like, well, I
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did all those projects in the first three weeks, and now I've
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binge watched absolutely everything on every streaming
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channel there is,
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yeah, you know, the research shows that the
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average retiree watches 47 hours of TV a week. So they basically
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replaced a full time job with a full time job of watching TV.
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And we all know from a cognitive standpoint, from a health
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standpoint, from a connection standpoint, and that's that
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brings us then to that, you know, potentially early death,
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or at least feeling really despondent in that blue sense.
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So and no, I
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watched more than 47 hours of the Olympics,
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and I think I'm stronger and smarter and better.
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I can tell that, and I think that was probably
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motivating, but I'm going to guess that was in that moment of
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time and on. Because I know you're a mover and a shaker.
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You're not sitting binging on TV, but, but I think that it is
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important then, okay, then, how are we filling that time, but
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not filling it with busy, you know, filling it up, but
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fulfilling it up. And so there's a big difference, you know, time
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being fulfilling rather than time being filled. I've had
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clients come to me like you said that these long to do lists are
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all these activities, and they're saying I'm busier than
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ever. But yet, there's this piece that's missing. There's
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this there's this feeling that there's something else, or what
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really is this really meaningful? And that's what we
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want. You know? So each of us does bring our gifts into the
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world. We want to feel connected with that, and feel that we do
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have a purpose here, that I think that that can get really
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lost, and then how do you find it? And so I'm kind of that
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guide and help people translate, okay, all of these ideas that I
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have, what's going to feel right for me.
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So can you share with us a couple of things
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that our listener could do for themselves, like as they're
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contemplating they might already, already be in the
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throes of retirement and thinking, absolutely this isn't
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quite as exciting. I mean, if you've got a bazillion dollars,
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it doesn't take that much to travel a lot, but if you think
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you have to have that much like, are you traveling as much as you
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want? My husband and I had a conversation recently because
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I've been traveling a lot, and there's going to come a day when
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I just don't want to right that, either physically, it's too
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hard, or it's too much trouble, or I'm just over it, because as
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hard as that is for me to imagine at this point, I kind of
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think at some point I could be over it, and then what? So I
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come to you, I'm like, in the throes of retirement. I didn't
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pre plan, but now here I am, yes, like, what can I do now?
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Joe, sure, and I do work with people that are pre
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retirement and post, you know, post retirement, I do a lot of
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presentations, and I do have people in the audience that say,
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Wow, I wish I'd known about you when, because I've gone through
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all of this difficulty or wasting time, or feeling less
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than for so long. And, you know, potentially, they get over it,
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or they get into these patterns that don't serve but in any
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event, each of us has to make those decisions. So for someone
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who does decide, yes, I would like some support. Or for your
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listeners, okay, where do I start? It's really that idea of
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what does retirement mean to me? So really defining it and then
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really getting some clarity or beginning ideas of what is your
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vision? Because we know that the average retiree now lives 2030,
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or more years. And so that's a third of your life, a third of
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your life. And so yes, you've got this bucket list, maybe, or
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travel or the to do, but yeah, as you said, that's going to
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wear thin, or it's going to wear out and and there's also so much
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more to life. So even if you've got travel plans, then really
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think about what is it about that place that I really want to
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see? What will I want to bring back with me in the way of
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memories or understanding or learning, really stepping into
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it and doing the research, if that resonates for you, but
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being present and squeezing everything out of all the
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different things that we do. So I would say, really define. You
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know, I'm in retirement now, or I'm looking at retirement. What
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does that mean to me? What am I about? What's important to me,
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what's my vision, and what are the steps I need to take to get
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there? So that's a lot, and at the end, I will share with
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everyone that there is this little mini workbook that I'd
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like to offer them, this roadmap to retirement, and it does help
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step you through that definition about retirement that you know
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no regrets retirement, envisioning that first day, what
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it looks like, and envisioning, what if you only had a limited
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amount of time, what would be your priorities on that workbook
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as well, it really does speak to what's your perspective, because
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we know so often people go in with this feeling of loss, that
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they're aging and that their their world is getting smaller.
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But we can shift that perspective, and we can go in
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with, wow, I've got these possibilities and this outlook
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of positivity and being in that present and filled with
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gratitude, which is also a little sheet in the mini
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workbook. So I think people will enjoy that.
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So I I love all of this. I can't wait to get
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mine. But how did you get to this point? Like, what was your
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your background, that you woke up one day and said, I need to
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help people with this. How did you get to that point?
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I appreciate the question, and I'll try to be
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succinct, but I'll take you all through just a little bit of my
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background. So I was in corporate for about 25 years in
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sales leadership, so anywhere from Fortune 50 to fashion to
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franchises. And I loved the work. I loved the sales process.
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I loved being able to elevate my team members capabilities. Love
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the connection with clients, and really loved having
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deliverables, you know, meeting those sales and service KPIs. I
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loved all of it. The last position that I was in, and this
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was about five or so years ago, was as a leader of these number
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of franchises. Loved the work. We were doing amazing things,
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very creative, which is a part of what I enjoy, too. But they
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decided to sell the business and in for in hindsight, good on
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them, because we were at the height of the business, so but
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that, that unfortunate part is. That the new owner had a very
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different philosophy in facing the market and how he worked
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with the team members. And so I really tried to work with that.
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But, and maybe you've been in this position too, that when
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you're carrying forward someone else's values, to be able to to
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say that to clients, or say that to your your the folks that are
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working for you, it feels so bad, I mean, and I kept trying,
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but I just could not, I just could not continue to carry the
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message. So I'm fortunate in a way that that happened, because
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I think had it not, I would have just continued on. I think that
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at that moment, I was at that crossroads, okay, do I find a
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new position or what. And it was really, then I really started
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thinking, you know, the thing that I love is bringing myself
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forward, making those connections, making life better
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for people. And so why not bring myself forward? So I researched
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things. I discovered the world of coaching, which I didn't even
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know existed. You know, we were, yeah, and so, and, you know, I
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guess I'd work with coaches, but in a very niche way, like in
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presentations, or in, you know, facing the market or whatever.
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But so I went back to school. I am now have, I went to an
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international coaching Federation accredited school, so
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I now have my professional sort of certification as a coach. And
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so then that leads to, okay, but why retirement? So I was, you
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know, they say, teach, what your coach, what, you know? So I
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started as a business coach, but what I was finding Jennifer is
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it still stayed very transactional. You know, it was
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really about helping elevate people's capabilities. It was
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really about the strategies, but it wasn't getting at the soul.
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It wasn't getting at that deeper piece. And I felt that I really
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want to make a difference, which I define as that transformation.
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So what I was observing, though, is, again, in this demographic,
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baby boomers, that are the ones that are tending to be retiring.
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Those that were born in 1946 to 1964 or 65 I was seeing, what
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we've talked about is that, you know, they've stepped into this
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retirement undefined and then unclear. And, as one client
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said, lost in the desert, you know, and just trying to do what
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they think is successful by having travel and leisure, maybe
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a little volunteering, sprinkle up with grandkids and taking
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care of them, if that's the case, but just not really having
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their own vision and not taking control. I call it a retirement
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by design, not default and so. So then I discovered, you know,
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isn't it so fun? You and I discovered coaching. Then I
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discovered there's this whole world around retirement
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coaching, so I was able to go back and get several
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certifications and that become a member of that community. And
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that's, that's what I've been Springboarding off. And I do
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want to express that this is just so important to me. It's,
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it's very gratifying work, because in our demographic, we
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weren't raised with positive psychology. We weren't raised
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with those ideas that emotions or flags to something deeper,
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and they're they're telling us we need to look at something
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more closely. And so I think that a lot of the people that I
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work with, who I know, also looked at no pain, no gain power
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through be highly productive. If you've got some feelings about
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things. You put it to the side, or you push it down, because
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that's inefficient. And so I'm really able to help open that
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door for people and let them step into something that's
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deeper, not in a way that, you know, sometimes people think,
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Oh, that's so, you know, it's so nebulous, or it's a woo out
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there. So it's not that. It's just really key into who they
Wendy Leggett:
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are, what's important to them, and how can we move forward in
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that direction?
Jennifer Takagi:
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Well, we've had a very similar path, because I
Jennifer Takagi:
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worked for the federal government, and most training
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was how to do something not like personal development, which
Jennifer Takagi:
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there's this misconception that personal development is airy
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fairy, whatever, but in actuality, you elevate the
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person and their work is going to elevate like it's a direct
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connection, and there's lots of research about that. But I also
Jennifer Takagi:
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did leadership training as my first foray into retirement and
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entrepreneurship and and then you just keep making shifts and
Jennifer Takagi:
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turns, and then you finally land where it's like, this feels this
Jennifer Takagi:
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is it. This feels good the people who do the business
Jennifer Takagi:
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coaching, I mean, good for you. We need you, and without you, I
Jennifer Takagi:
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wouldn't be here. But when it no longer serves you to be teaching
Jennifer Takagi:
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and training in that you know, it's time to to address
Jennifer Takagi:
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something else and move a little different path. So I love this,
Jennifer Takagi:
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and I love that you're providing a platform and a place for
Jennifer Takagi:
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people to go and learn and do more. I I've been. Teased
Jennifer Takagi:
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somewhat. You might have experienced this too with, I'm
Jennifer Takagi:
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just exhausted watching you. You're supposed to be retired.
Jennifer Takagi:
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And it was like, it, you know, fills me up. I'm very happy
Wendy Leggett:
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to Yes, yeah. Well, I think, I think, as
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social creatures, we want things to make sense, you know, we
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want, we want this cohesiveness, this herd, this tribe, and so
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people tend to want to put us into a box. And I think that
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awareness that you know that no judgment there. You're good
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where you are, but an awareness that I don't want to be in that
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box, that that label doesn't fit me. And so So I think that's
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important. I wonder too, since we're discovering that we both
Wendy Leggett:
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found this world of coaching, and I think your listeners might
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benefit from this too. Did you find the world of Positive
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Intelligence or anything like that? Because I'm a certified
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Positive Intelligence coach, and that idea that we have these
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negative emotions, and so by catching them, they're called
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saboteurs in Sherzad work, catching them and then allowing
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ourselves to really define, okay, what's coming up for me,
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give ourselves a little brain, breathe there a little space and
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grace, and then move into a more positive stance, what he calls
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sage. That's been a springboard for me with my work with clients
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too, because, as I mentioned earlier, not brought up with
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positive psychology. For most I'm not really keyed into
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emotions. This becomes, then a pathway to that. And so I do
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feel strongly that a lot of times, people have an awareness
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that something's not quite right, but then they need the
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tools and they need that guidance. And so I think that
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that's that full package that I provide. So I
Jennifer Takagi:
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love that, and I had a girlfriend reach out to
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me one time, and she's just in the last couple years, and she
Jennifer Takagi:
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said, Hey, can you be a part of this session? And I was like,
Jennifer Takagi:
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Yeah. I didn't even know what it was, but I a young man was
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getting his certification in. I froze up for a sec. A young man
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was getting his certification in that PQ Positive Intelligence
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Program, and so he needed people in his beta group to do his
Jennifer Takagi:
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stuff. And I often need people in mind, because those of you
Jennifer Takagi:
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been listening to me a while, I've got a lot of certification,
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so I need people. And I was like, Yeah, I would love to that
Jennifer Takagi:
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sounds great. And so just for the listeners, as simple, like,
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without going into any detail, one of the things is we just let
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our you know. First you have an emotion, something happens. You
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have an emotion, yeah? But then if you add meaning to it, then
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you create a feeling which lasts much longer. And then if you're
Jennifer Takagi:
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feeling last long enough, you get into a mood that can last a
Jennifer Takagi:
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long time. And the question is, is any of it serving you?
Jennifer Takagi:
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Sometimes it is. Sometimes it's not. But if something happens
Jennifer Takagi:
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and you have that emotion, and you're instantly triggered with
Jennifer Takagi:
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this, I'm going to say negative emotion, not happiness and joy,
Jennifer Takagi:
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but typically not, yes, if you can just very gently rub your
Jennifer Takagi:
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thumb and is it your index finger? Does it matter which
Jennifer Takagi:
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finger? Is it your ring finger? Your middle finger? Yeah,
Wendy Leggett:
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I think whatever I mean, I it, he always showed
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it this way, but, yeah, that's doing a PQ, right? That you're
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feeling the ridges of your fingertips, and you just give it
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the that total focus. And what is so gently, yes, so gently,
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yeah. But when we put total focus on that, it clears out the
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clutter in our brain. It just gives us a chance to just quiet
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the noise. And I think that's what you're talking about, is
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that otherwise those negative or difficult emotions move then
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into these feelings become cemented, can ruminate, so we
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just just break that cycle
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and break it quickly. And I shared this with
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my nieces at the time. We had, I think, one in high school and
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two in college, and now we got two in college and one out of
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college. So, and I'm over there a lot, but I shared that with
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them, and one of them that was out of college at this point
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said I was at a meeting, and they said something that was
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really bothersome, triggering whatever word irritated her, and
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she goes, and I sat there under the table and very gently rub my
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fingers together, and Just was feeling those ridges, and I
Jennifer Takagi:
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calmed right down. It was like, yeah, it works. Sometimes the
Jennifer Takagi:
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simplest things can have the the greatest impact. So
Wendy Leggett:
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yeah, I think we connect, like in her case and in
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mine. And you know what we're saying is that you connect that
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rubbing those fingertips with this sense of calm, and then
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move into that laser focus. It just allows, it just allows us
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to not keep our hand on the hot stove. Is what we can move it
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quickly.
Jennifer Takagi:
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Yeah, we can move it quickly. Man, Wendy,
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this has been great. There are so many people that are going to
Jennifer Takagi:
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benefit from the work that you're doing on helping navigate
Jennifer Takagi:
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this path of. Retirement. I know you have a free gift, but in
Jennifer Takagi:
00:25:02
general, can you give us a little glimpse into how you work
Jennifer Takagi:
00:25:06
with people? Do you work one on one? Do you have group like,
Jennifer Takagi:
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what's that look like? Yeah,
Wendy Leggett:
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I do work one on one. I found that it's so
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individualized that, in my case, that just feels like that allows
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people to really voice, really excavate what's going on for
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them, and then allows them to then move forward. So I do have
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a four session package. I have a four month package, and
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anything, you know, in between, but those are the two kind of
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hallmarks of my program. And then it's just really whatever
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is going to meet people's needs. But I, I do tend to really find
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the most value in the one on one. So
Jennifer Takagi:
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oh my gosh, I love that. And we will have the
Jennifer Takagi:
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link in the show notes so people can get your free gift that they
Jennifer Takagi:
00:25:51
can start mapping out their roadmap. That's what it is,
Jennifer Takagi:
00:25:53
right?
Wendy Leggett:
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Yeah? Like, yes, yeah, roadmap to retirement and
Wendy Leggett:
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beginning that, and then in the when you download it. And I hope
Wendy Leggett:
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everybody does, because I like it, and I think that you will
Wendy Leggett:
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too listeners, then I do invite you to a discovery call, so a
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00:26:08
free, one hour coaching session. And what you can do is you work
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through that workbook, and then connect with me, and we can go
Wendy Leggett:
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over your findings in it. We can go over what other obstacles,
Wendy Leggett:
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opportunities you have. But I think, and I think this is a
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message you carry forward to Jennifer, is that that idea of
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hope without action remains hope. You know, we were bringing
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you some ideas here today. Hopefully you've heightened your
Wendy Leggett:
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awareness and you have some insights. But if we don't take
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those insights and put them into action, then they just kind of
Wendy Leggett:
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sit on the shelf and they don't, it was like, Oh, that was so
Wendy Leggett:
00:26:41
interesting that it doesn't really take us forward. And
Wendy Leggett:
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that's what we're about, right? Is making that difference?
Jennifer Takagi:
00:26:47
Oh my gosh, I love this so much. So people
Jennifer Takagi:
00:26:50
typically listen to podcasts. Listeners out there, you're
Jennifer Takagi:
00:26:53
listening on your phone, and I just want you to say you can
Jennifer Takagi:
00:26:56
just scroll down to the show notes, click the link, there's a
Jennifer Takagi:
00:26:59
link there, so you don't even have to leave your platform to
Jennifer Takagi:
00:27:03
get to the roadmap. This has been awesome. Wendy, do you have
Jennifer Takagi:
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any final words for our audience?
Wendy Leggett:
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I mentioned earlier this idea of a
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retirement by design, not default, and that this is your
Wendy Leggett:
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time. And so rather than allowing family, friends, the
Wendy Leggett:
00:27:24
media, the world out there to design it for you, really take
Wendy Leggett:
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that charge and really step into this is a wonderful this is such
Wendy Leggett:
00:27:33
a unique, wonderful, different experience, make the most of it.
Jennifer Takagi:
00:27:40
Ah, that is awesome. Retirement by design. I
Jennifer Takagi:
00:27:43
love it. Wendy, thank you so much for your insights and
Jennifer Takagi:
00:27:46
sharing your time with us today.
Wendy Leggett:
00:27:48
Oh, it's really enjoyable. I love your energy
Wendy Leggett:
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always, and I'm a avid listener, and so thank you so much for the
Wendy Leggett:
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time as well. Ah,
Jennifer Takagi:
00:27:56
thank you. I love that. So if you're
Jennifer Takagi:
00:27:58
listening, you know, hit, subscribe, follow, whatever the
Jennifer Takagi:
00:28:01
buttons all are, do all those things. I'm Jennifer Takagi with
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destin for success, and I look forward to connecting with you
Jennifer Takagi:
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soon on the stop.