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Hey there.
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Welcome back to Marketing
Therapy, episode 75.
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Today we're talking about marketing
when you're licensed in multiple states.
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This is something that obviously had a
huge boom post-pandemic, but continues
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to be something that I see come up a lot
in practices, and a question I'm often
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asked, "Anna, I got licensed in another
state," or, "Anna, I'm a PSYPACT provider.
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How do I get clients in
all of those states?"
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And that's a great
question and a fair one.
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You can see clients in 40-plus states,
right, if you're a PSYPACT provider,
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or you can see clients in three states
if you're licensed in that many.
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But does that mean you
actually get clients there?
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How do I get clients in other states?
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That's the question we're tackling today.
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Now, PSYPACT, Counselors Compact,
whatever it is, these sound
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like a marketer's dream, right?
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All of a sudden, your market has
increased in size by 30, 40, 50x.
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We're talking millions and millions
and millions of potential clients.
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That should mean more clients, right?
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More reach, more opportunity.
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But this is actually something I see
a lot of clinicians stumble around.
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So today's episode is really about
why that seemingly unlimited reach
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can actually end up paralyzing your
marketing, and why there is something to
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be said for staying in your lane, staying
close to home, and that kind of thing.
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This episode, of course, will
apply to anyone licensed in
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multiple states, whether that's
two or, like I said, PSYPACT 43
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or however many it is currently.
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The name of the game, again,
these days is specificity.
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We know right now in this market
that marketing is working best when
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you are clearly speaking to someone.
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So saying, "I can see clients in
40 states," you, my friend, are
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communicating a legal credential.
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You can legally see clients
in that many states.
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That is not itself a value proposition.
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It is not a reason someone would
choose you, and it doesn't actually
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mean a lot for your marketing.
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Sometimes when your potential market
is enormous, I often experience
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this when clients come to us being
PSYPACT providers in particular.
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They have this illusion that if
they narrow down into a particular
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market demographically or
geographically, that they're leaving
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money on the table because, well,
I could see clients elsewhere.
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But in the same way that a generalist
private pay practice is gonna be a
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lot slower to grow than a niche one,
the same is true for your geography.
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So PSYPACT multi-state marketing, that's
about enabling your ability to work,
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but it does not define your marketing.
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It is not itself a marketing strategy.
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That's really what I want you to walk
away from this episode understanding.
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So when we look at this and when we're
coaching students through this in
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Confident Copy Live or we're discussing
it with them in our done-for-you
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services, we're going to recommend what
we call a primary market or a home base.
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This is about basing
your marketing somewhere.
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Okay?
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When we say primary market, we mean a
geographic audience that your website
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and your language and your visibility
strategy is ultimately anchored to.
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We've been talking a lot about visibility
so far this summer, how just because
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you exist, of course, doesn't mean
you're gonna be found, and so a lot of
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your ongoing marketing is about making
sure that people know that you exist.
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We really suggest that you keep those
efforts focused close to home, even if
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you can see clients across the country.
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So we're talking your home state.
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We're talking about the state
where you have the deepest roots
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and relationships and credibility.
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We're talking about your individual
city or metro area leaning in,
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and I'm talking regardless of whether
or not you are in person or online.
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Now, in this market, as I shared in
last week's episode, I would absolutely
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recommend having an in-person location,
even if it's just a once-a-week
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sublease, because of the benefits
it allows you in terms of marketing.
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But this episode is useful
regardless of if you are online
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only or hybrid and in person.
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Now, a lot of this reasoning,
a lot of the strategy behind
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recommending a target location or
a primary market is related to SEO.
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And I'm not gonna get into the
nitty-gritty of SEO here, but it's really
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important to recognize that even if you
never meet a single client in person, even
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if you are exclusively telehealth forever
and ever Amen, geography still matters
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for your marketing and for your SEO.
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When someone wants to find a
therapist online, they often still
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append location-specific signals.
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One study showed us that forty-three
percent of people who want telehealth, who
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know that they're going to see a provider
online, still search with local intent.
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So that means something like therapist
in Florida or, you know, anxiety therapy
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in Nashville, whatever that might be.
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They're attaching a location to it
almost by instinct, even though they
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fully intend to see someone virtually.
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And Google is reading those signals.
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Google is looking for signals
of your location and also of the
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searcher's location in order to match
those and potentially surface you.
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So if your website has no clear
geographic kind of anchor or home base,
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if you're really trying to speak to
forty states at once, Google doesn't know
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where to put you, and that's an issue.
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So you end up not really
showing up strongly anywhere.
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And then there's the ranking
reality here that you cannot
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rank everywhere simultaneously.
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It's just not how search works.
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Spreading yourself across forty
states is nearly impossible.
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Ranking well in one state is
challenging when people are
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searching with local intent.
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Ranking well in 40 states when
people are searching with local
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intent is borderline impossible.
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And so if your practice is deeply
optimized for Tennessee, for instance,
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that has the language and the
pages and all the referral signals,
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whatever that might be, it's going
to surface far more reliably for
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Tennessee searches than a website that
is spread thin across forty states
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trying to be relevant to all of them.
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So even if you're online only,
when it comes to SEO, searchers are
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still using geographic language,
and Google is still treating those
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queries, even if they haven't
appended a location geographically.
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And so it is in your best
interest to make sure that your
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website is still based somewhere.
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We can't abandon geography completely,
and we also can't attempt to
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be all places at all times and
rank well in multiple states.
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It's really about finding a primary
one and then adding on from there.
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This is the greatest argument
for why you need to make sure
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that you're focusing somewhere.
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The other thing to keep in mind here
is that if you were to select your
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home state or your city or whatever
that might be, whether or not you're
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online or in person, is where you also
likely have the richest connections.
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It's also where you are most likely
to be cited in a local magazine or
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to start forming those connections.
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And the more authoritative you can
appear in a particular area, the stronger
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that presence is going to be, right?
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And so if people are most likely
going to be referring to you in
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the city of Nashville, then noting
that you are based in Nashville and
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serving X number of states or clients
in whatever other areas is going to
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reinforce that really, really well.
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Lean into where you already are.
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Your ability to be found in your local
area because of your connections,
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because of your SEO, whatever that
might be, is going to be stronger than
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your ability to be found by a client
on the other side of the country.
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Now, obviously if you have a physical
location, even part-time, even that
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once-a-week sublease like I was talking
about, there's your primary market.
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Done.
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Done and dusted.
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If you're online only, that's where
things get a little bit trickier.
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But it's important to think
about where you already have
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the most referral relationships.
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That's probably gonna be where
you're physically located,
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but it might be different.
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I've talked to two clinicians who,
you know, were based in California
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and then moved to another state and
continue to base their marketing
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out of California because of their
well-established connections there.
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You can think about things like
where your niche population is going
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to be concentrated geographically.
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We don't need to get too specific here
because quite frankly, there is likely a
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caseload full of clients in any area of
the country to fill your niche practice.
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But if there are areas of the country
where people may need your services
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more, that is worth thinking about.
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I wouldn't let that take priority
over your own relationships,
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but something to think on.
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You can think about places where you
have personal credibility, right?
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Lived experience, maybe where
you went to school, cultural
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knowledge, whatever that may be.
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And again, I would think about this at a
secondary level, but are there areas that
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have demand and perhaps less competition?
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Now in this market, chances are just about
everywhere feels saturated to you, but it
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is possible that there are some pockets of
the country where you are well-established
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and and that don't have as many therapists
serving the niche population that you do.
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So those are a couple things to
think on if you're fully virtual.
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Chances are it's going to be
where you're physically located
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or where you have previously been.
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But this is where we see
kind of your niche and your
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geography start to work together.
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What I'm gonna suggest and kind
of caution you against is choosing
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a market just based on where you
think there's less competition.
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Because, again, if you don't have an
authentic connection to that place,
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if you don't have any established
relationships, it's likely not
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gonna serve you particularly well.
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I would rather you base yourself out of
the place where you have the deepest roots
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versus where you think it's strategically
more lucrative, if that makes sense.
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Now, if you establish a primary market,
you can still see clients in other places,
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so what do you do about those, right?
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So you have your primary location.
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You are based in Nashville.
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You are based wherever you decide on.
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What about the others?
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My suggestion here, when boiled
down, is essentially wherever
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you want to get clients, market
as if you were physically there.
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Be as there in those markets as you
would be if you were in your primary one.
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So this means that we're not just gonna
be spraying and praying across 43 states.
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It means you're gonna be really
thoughtful about the secondary or
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tertiary locations that you choose,
and engage thoughtfully, strategically,
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relationally in those places
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Oftentimes that might mean
joining the local Facebook
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groups for clinicians there.
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That might be reaching out to establish
some relationships with other clinicians,
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either adjacent or same niche as you.
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Starting to form connections with other
providers who in your primary location are
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already serving as fruitful relationships.
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It's going to be very, very relational.
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Now you can also make some changes as
it relates to SEO and your website.
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You can create individual pages of your
website for the different states or
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metro areas that you're focusing on.
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You know, making sure that your
directory profiles are reflective
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of those other zip codes.
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Making sure that anytime someone lands
on your website, it notes based in X, but
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serving clients in, you know, X, Y, and Z.
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So we absolutely wanna make sure if
someone from a tertiary location or from
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a random state that you are technically
licensed in lands here, they know
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you can serve them, but recognizing
that the majority of those folks are
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likely to be in your primary market.
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So if you decide, "You know what?
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I wanna go after clients in X market,"
choose that market thoughtfully
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and then go after that market
as if it was your primary one.
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So it's about being really
thoughtful about that expansion.
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Again, just because you can serve
clients in all of these states doesn't
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mean that they just suddenly know that
you exist or going to come flocking.
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They're gonna find you because
you've engaged in thoughtful
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marketing around them.
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Okay?
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I wanna highlight here that
the sequencing matters.
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When you are thinking about how to
expand and how to market yourself,
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engage, invest, lean into that
primary market first, and then be
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thoughtful about those secondary
and tertiary ones that come after.
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Primary first, build that up strong.
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Build a presence there, because trying
to build presence in five, 10, 15
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states is how you end up with a just
watered-down spray and pray approach,
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and that's what I don't want for you.
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The deeper you can go in
individual markets, the more
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successful you are likely to be.
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Now, everything we're talking about
today is running through your website.
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Like, that is the core home base of
your marketing that is communicating
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to your primary market and your
secondary and tertiary ones that
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you are available to serve them.
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It is the asset that is anchoring
you where you belong and making sure
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that when someone lands there, they
know if you are able to serve them.
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We need to make sure that your location
is mentioned strategically, thoughtfully,
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and consistently across your website,
homepage, about page, specialty pages.
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All of those need to make very,
very clear what your primary,
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secondary, and tertiary markets are.
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We need to make sure that regardless of
where they are located, they are landing
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here and getting a sense of your niche
and determining whether or not you're a
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good fit for them aside from location.
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Okay?
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This is all based in your website.
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If you know that your website is
not speaking clearly to a primary
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audience, start there before
we even get into primary and
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secondary and tertiary locations.
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Okay?
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You can be super str- super strategic
about your location marketing, but if you
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aren't clear about your audience and your
niche first, we're gonna have an issue.
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So start there, and then you can start
building on these additional strategies
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The clinicians who are doing well
right now got clear on that first,
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and then added on things like location
and SEO and individual strategies,
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like what we're talking about here.
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This is a cherry on top strategy to
the foundational client conversion
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engine that you need built regardless.
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So please know that.
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Of course, we wanna start there.
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Now, like I said at the top of
the episode, PSYPACT, multi-state
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licenser, it's a genuine advantage.
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How cool that you are available
to serve all of those clients.
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But it is only going to be useful
for you if you use it strategically,
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not as a headline, not as a value
proposition, and not just thinking,
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"Well, because I can see clients,
those clients are going to find me."
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You're gonna have to be intentional
about who you're going after and where
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you're going after them in order to
bring in clients from other states
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So if you're wondering what to do
about your multi-state marketing,
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pick that primary market first.
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If you're in person, you
already know what that is.
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If you're virtual, consider
what that should be given your
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established relationships and the
competition around your niche.
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Build your website around your ideal
client, and then go after those
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clients in those markets really,
really thoughtfully and strategically
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Don't let the idea of being licensed
in multiple states masquerade
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as a marketing strategy, okay?
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It is not itself a marketing
strategy, but it does point you
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in some really cool directions.
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It does open you up to new opportunities,
but only if you do it thoughtfully, okay?
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I hope this one was helpful for you.
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See you in our next episode