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Welcome to Blueprint for Brilliance Coaching Insights, a
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Welcome everyone to today's episode.
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I am absolutely thrilled you're here and I'm thrilled to have Jennifer Grove of Jay
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Grove Wellness and she's a venting coach.
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So I can't wait to hear more about what venting coach she is and she's gonna
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tell us a little bit about her story.
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So welcome to the show, Jennifer.
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It's lovely to have you.
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Thank you so much for having me on the show.
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Janine Wilson.
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I really appreciate it.
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I'm not sure that most people actually understand what venting coach means.
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Truly.
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It's not something that a lot of people really are looking for
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until they have nowhere else to go.
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What I love to tell my clients a lot of times, or even people that I'm meeting
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in public, is that when we vent to our girlfriends or to a group of people, to
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our spouse, to our family, and we want to stay and ruminate in, that's not venting.
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That's complaint.
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That's getting people on board with what you are thinking and not
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actually releasing the thought or the emotion that you're feeling from it.
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So with a venting coach, especially in my practice, we actually move
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the emotion out of the body.
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So it's a little talk therapy with a lot of somatic work that goes along to it.
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Because if we don't actually work with the body, the mind will just
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circle it around and around and we'll hold onto it for a long time.
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Wow.
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So when you said venting coach, I thought there was something that,
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I didn't know what it was that was called venting, but you're actually
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talking about people venting.
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Ah, I got these things in my head, in my body.
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That to get 'em out, that's what you're talking, yeah, 100%.
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Yes.
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Like we are moving the body in particular ways.
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I have had people truly ask me, what's the process you go through?
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And while there is.
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Somewhat of a guideline.
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Every single person is unique and different.
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So what works for one person might not work for the next.
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So while I do have a guideline of how I want to work with a client, that's not
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always going to be the case because if they have an issue with breath work, if
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that brings up something for them, if there creates maybe too much emotion in
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them and we're not releasing, then I'm gonna back off of that and I'm gonna try a
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different tool that I have in my toolbox.
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So it's not always.
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The exact same with every person.
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So yeah.
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So that's a great visual.
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So give us a few more.
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When someone comes to you, how do they know that they need your help?
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How about there?
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Let's start there.
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I love that question because I think that we all, as humans, need a village.
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Like we try to do everything on our own.
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We struggle so much with that a lot of times.
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So that's when we start to look for a therapist or a coach or really
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close knit friends that we can share what's going on in our lives.
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So when they finally make it to me, they're looking for a shift of some sort.
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They don't really know what they're looking for, but whatever they've
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experienced hasn't been working for them.
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And I love working with people because.
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Especially women.
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I have a few male clients, but not many.
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Most of the women come in with one particular thing in mind, and by the time
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they leave it's completely different.
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I didn't know I needed to work on that.
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Thank you.
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Now we know where we need to start.
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I love that.
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And you're so right.
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It's.
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Especially women.
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My business partner will say, men will outsource anything.
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If they could outsource going to the bathroom, they would, can
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you take care of this for me so I can finish what I'm working on?
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True.
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I know, right?
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And so just like you said, as women we're like, no, we're a failure
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if we can't do it all ourselves.
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We feel like we have to, and actually that's what we do.
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We help our clients outsource different things in their business and help
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them understand that they can do it.
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Stop brain surgery.
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It's just a skill that you have to learn, but oftentimes it is also a mindset
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involved in that, that I don't know if they think I'm not a good person if I
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can't do everything, but what we've.
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Find is that they feel so much more confident.
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Wow, I can do that.
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And I did it and it's working and it's taken all those pressure off me.
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It's amazing.
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Tell me some of your experiences with your clients.
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See, I love how you mentioned that outsourcing for women and how they
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really feel bad about themselves for that, because society has helped us to
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understand that our worth is tied to our output, and that is so not the case.
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We are worthy no matter what.
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So when I'm working with clients, whether I'm working one-on-one or we're on a
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retreat, we will truly have a session where we're talking about something.
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What are we feeling at the moment?
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What's on the surface?
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And then once we get to that surface level, we start to move
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some of that energy outta the body.
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Because if we don't work with the physical body and energy from it,
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no matter what that energy is, no matter what that emotion is.
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Then we can't actually work with the mind.
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'cause the mind's always there to protect us no matter what.
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It's such a smart tool, but the body needs consistency.
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The body needs to be able to move through whatever it's working with,
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whether that's joy, whether that's anger, whether that's sadness, happiness.
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We have to allow that emotion to physically move throughout our
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body because we're a frequency.
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I'm not sure the complete statistics of this.
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The numbers may have shifted some, but they say that at least.
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65% for women and 55% for men were water.
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So our bodies are at 55 to 65% water.
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That number may have shifted over time, but that being said, if we're
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65% water, we're majority water.
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And we've seen how the ocean moves, how the waves move with the temperature, the
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shift in weather, why would we think that?
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Our body, our emotions don't shift.
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If that's the case, then we need to allow them to move where a lot of times
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women specifically want to hold on to whatever emotion they're feeling because
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it's not okay for us to feel them.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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I can see that.
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Do you think too, I know endorphins have things to do with it too, but
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do you think that's why people who do yoga or exercise or walk on a
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regular basis overall feel better?
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Yes, because you're moving endorphins in your body.
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You're out in nature.
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That's a very big substance if you're walking, if you're exercising outside
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Now, if you're like in a studio, because I also teach clients yoga and Pilates.
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So if you are in a studio, your energy is binding with the other energies in the.
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So think of it like walking into a room of people that you have no idea who they are.
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You instantly can tell, your body can tell, oh my gosh, this
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doesn't feel comfortable, or This is gonna be the best event ever.
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Your body already knows.
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Your mind is just gonna take over whichever direction just to keep you safe.
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It's so true and.
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Speaking of yoga, I did hot yoga a few times and it was such a different vibe
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than doing just like a soft, gentle yoga.
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And the people in there were different.
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But yeah, as soon as I got in that room, I could feel this weird kind of
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energy with these people who were rr.
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That's so funny that you said, then I just put those two together.
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Yeah.
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Our bodies tell us a lot more than.
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What we truly listen to because we've been so desensitized throughout
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society, there's so many things.
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It's instant gratification.
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We have to hurry up, we have to do this, so that we can receive that.
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All of that starts to desensitize how we're really listening to our body.
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So rituals are such an important practice for every single one of us, and if we
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don't have a ritual in place, that's where I love for people to start.
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Okay.
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So that's great.
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How would you suggest that people start a ritual to start moving
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or to start feeling better?
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If right now everything is clenched up and they're frustrated, what
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would you tell them at least?
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Like a first step or first two.
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Let it out.
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Edit it out.
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Speak it out.
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Scream, yell.
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Hum.
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Sing whatever you need to do to get it from here to here out into the ether.
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That's gonna be the first step, because you're gonna
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feel a release instantaneously.
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It may be the smallest release, but you're going to feel it.
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I would suggest not doing it around a lot of other people.
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At first if you're not comfortable with it.
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Yeah, we used to have a punching bag because my daughter is a third
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degree black belt in karate, and so I used to love just putting on her
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gloves and just beating this thing up.
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You get the energy out.
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I love to do that with my retreat clients.
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When I take 'em on retreat, we will break things.
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I intentionally have a space.
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Set up that they go and they can pick a certain item and they break it because
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it just gives you this ability to release what you're feeling, that pent
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up energy, that anger, that frustration.
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Okay.
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I just wrote down break things.
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Love that.
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I know I've heard the statistic about water, but that is so interesting because,
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and topical, 'cause this time of year we have our VAs work in the Philippines and
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so they tend to get typhoons and so it's just like this angry water overflowing
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and moving and thrashing and it's.
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Just such a crazy kind of visual.
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And I also was thinking about maybe when you're angry, like your water is boiling.
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I get boiling angry.
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Yeah.
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Those are good visuals.
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And the water visual.
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Yeah.
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The other thing I was thinking of is a friend of ours, I can't remember
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who it was said, but if you think about how water travels down like down
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a hill, it creates a ravine, if you will, and it carves us out in the.
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And then if you wanna change that direction or stop that from happening,
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you've gotta do something pretty drastic because you can't just cover it up.
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'cause it's gonna dig it out again.
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And so I think that's how they described how your mind goes, because
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we tend to do the same thing and the same thing when we're frustrated
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or angry and we don't get anywhere.
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Yes.
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One of the reasons behind that is because we feel safe, albeit not so great.
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It's still something that we feel so familiar with.
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So we tie that to safe.
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Even when it's not working for us.
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Yeah.
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The safety, the ego.
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Yes.
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Back to that.
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So tell a bit about your clients.
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You said they're mostly women.
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Are they of a certain age?
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Are they typically business people?
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Are they women who don't work and stay home and take care
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of the kids in the house?
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Is there a commonality between them?
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I think there is.
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I work with a lot of women who are entrepreneurs or in the
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corporate world and the age ranges.
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From the mid thirties to upper seventies.
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Yeah.
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We have a lot of entrepreneurs in our program who are in their
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seventies and they're fantastic.
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They're so excited and anxious to keep learning and keep growing,
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and it's really inspiring.
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That is extremely inspiring.
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Yes.
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I love to listen to people that are older than myself just 'cause
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they've been on this earth longer.
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They have more knowledge, whether they know it or not, because they can share
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something through a story that will.
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Fire the next person.
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Yeah, I love that.
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That is so true.
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You obviously work with your clients one-on-one and you do retreats.
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I heard you say that as well.
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Do you work with them in groups as well, or does this type of
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work not quite work as well?
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I will do one-off workshops with groups, but this type of work really is for
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an individual because there could be quite a bit of motion that does come up.
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Throughout their sessions.
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So I feel like it's more intimate setting with one-on-one, although
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workshops do take place, but that is a very limited space and time for those.
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Yeah, that makes sense.
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So tell me a couple of the techniques, if you can share some of your secrets.
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When you work with your clients, do you first ask them like, where are you?
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What's happening in your mind?
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Or do you just jump right in with.
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Let's work on some breath work.
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Oh gosh, no.
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That would just freak out their nervous system.
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Just jumping right in.
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All right.
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Let's do this.
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No, I love to have the rapport.
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I love people, so I love to learn about them and I love for them to share what's
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happening in their mind, in their body.
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So we definitely have an intake process.
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Then when I actually meet with them one-on-one, whether it's
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in my office or virtually, we're talking and I'm just letting them.
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Share whatever's on their mind, whatever they're thinking,
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whatever they're feeling.
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And I may ask questions in between just to feed and drive out some of
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what was really happening behind the scenes of what they're telling me.
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And then we'll start to move into maybe breath work, or could be tapping it.
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It could be some other somatic form.
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I am an LP practitioner, so there's a variety of different outlets that I use.
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It could honestly be just a conversation where use particular words that
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they're not understanding but their subconscious can, can truly get to.
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This whole subconscious thing is fascinating to me.
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Absolutely fascinating how you gotta not manipulate it, but move
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it so that it doesn't keep doing the same thing or telling you the
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same thing over and over again.
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Yes, most definitely.
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Some of the funniest times when I know where a client is.
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In their process that I will maybe as they're speaking, just start counting
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out loud while they're speaking and it starts to throw them off so that then
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they get out of the critical brain.
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They're like, okay, wait a minute.
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I lost my train of thought.
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Okay, great.
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Let's start again.
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So you're breaking that habit.
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You are.
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You are breaking the habits.
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That's really good.
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Anyhow, how long do people typically work with you?
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Is there a certain amount of time or does it depend on the person?
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Yeah, it truly depends on the person, what they're going through.
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I start off with a particular program.
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I have a 30 day, it's like my signature program.
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It's a 30 days, and it's to get them from where they're at when
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they pretty much walk in the door to where they want to truly be.
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In that 30 days, we're clearing out the clutter.
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They're starting to take a little bit better.
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Care of themselves.
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They're starting to maybe look at things a little differently, and by that last
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day, they're like, okay, whatever I came in with 90% of the time is not
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what they wanna work on afterward.
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Oh, interesting.
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So you're clearing the clutter to get to the meat of it.
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Yes.
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And then from there.
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They can work with me for three months or six months, but the caveat is
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they have to do this 30 day program.
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It's called the Art of Wellbeing, because it's truly about the self-care that a
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lot of us tend to put off to the side.
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And it's the small things like enjoying music for an hour, just enjoying.
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Listening to music, maybe dancing, maybe singing with no other agenda in mind.
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How often do we truly do that?
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We're sitting in our car.
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I was gonna say that I usually sing in my car.
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It's things like that.
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It's another task that I have.
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'cause I have, it's like a daily task.
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Every day.
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There's a daily task.
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And then I also give them subliminals and hypnosis to go along with really
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letting go of what is holding them back.
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And so every day there's a particular task and it's.
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So small.
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Maybe it's making a cup of tea, but in making that cup of tea, you've got that 10
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minute span where you're not checking your phone, you're not talking to anybody else.
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You are truly focusing only on that cup of tea from the time the hot water
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starts to boil to the time you take that.
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Sip that you've got 10 minutes of just pure nothing.
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And how did that feel?
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A lot of times for most people, that feels really uncomfortable.
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Why?
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Because we're not used to that.
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I don't have 10 minutes to sit and just wait for a cup of tea.
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But we do, we prioritize some things that are not priority over our wellbeing when
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our wellbeing is the most important thing.
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Because if our cup is not full, we can't fill others.
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Not in the way that we really want to, and that is such a huge thing.
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It's such a big proponent for me and for what I do, because I see so many women
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struggle and be frustrated and shut down because they can't speak their truth.
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They don't feel safe enough in their own body to speak their truth.
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And so I give them the opportunity to start to feel safe, to not be judged,
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to be okay saying whatever it is they wanna say and not feel as if though
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someone is going to be mad at them or judge them, but then they start to say
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it in a little softer way because they're no longer upset or frustrated or angry.
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Now have a clean slate of emotions that they know how to move through their body.
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I love that.
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Jennifer, this has been so fantastic and you got me thinking all kinds of
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different things that good routines that I need to get into myself.
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I know there's people listening who are thinking this absolute same
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thing, so what is the best way for them to reach out to you and find
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out more about what you can do?
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I have a website called J Grove Wellness.
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I'm all over social media as.
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Again, j Grove Wellness.
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I even have a podcast myself called Getting in the Grove.
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I love that.
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That's so fun Getting in the Grove.
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I should have known you had a podcast.
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I can.
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Last question for you is the same that I asked my guests, and it is
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if there was one thing or one tip you could give the world to make it
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a better place, what would that be?
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Let it out.
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Let.
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It out, holding it in does nothing for anyone.
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It does more harm for yourself, for those around you because nobody
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understands what you are going through, so allow yourself to let it out.
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I love that.
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What a great way to end this episode.
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Let it out.
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Put earmuffs on or.
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Outside or Don't Neighbors though.
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Jennifer Grove, this has been an absolute delight.
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I am so grateful that you came and spent some time with me today with
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myself and my audience, and I know that they're walking away thinking
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about all these ways that they can improve what they're doing every day.
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So thank you.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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I really appreciated it.
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