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Welcome to Blueprints for Brilliance Coaching Insights, a
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podcast by coaches for coaches.
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Our guests share their hard one wisdom to help you grow your coaching
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business and create a life of success.
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So get ready to unlock the blueprints to your success.
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Welcome everyone to today's episode.
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I'm so grateful that you join me, and I'm also grateful to
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have Alfredo Borowski here.
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He is an executive coach from New York and I am excited to hear his story.
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So welcome to the show, Alfredo.
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It's lovely to have you.
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Hi Jean.
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Happy to be here.
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Excellent.
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So tell us a little bit about how you became an executive coach, and you told me
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also that you work with some nonprofits, so tell us a little bit more about that.
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I am executive coach.
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I do mostly what is called positive psychology, the science of
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Flourishing, and I was the executive director of a major organization
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coming from Argentina middle class.
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I had my office facing Central Park.
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I was on top of the world and didn't have to think about anything positive
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because I was living the life of positive until 2013 on June 19th when
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I was arrested, I was manic for three months, didn't know it, and I went to
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my psychiatrist, I a psychiatrist, and I lied, and I told him that I was depressed.
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Then I got an antidepressant because your manic people are super creative,
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energized, lose weight, and I la my mania and I wanted more of it.
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Then I asked for exactly the wrong medication.
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He prescribed it to me and a friend of mine, a police officer, gave me one of
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those badges, like friends and family, okay, and told me with this thing, the
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little badge will have no problems.
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And that's when the problems began because the next day I went through
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a traffic sign, I was stopped and when I showed the badge, I was told,
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sir, you can go and manic taking the wrong medication and the badge.
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I got into the role of being a police officer and I began.
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Driving through the highways of New York, showing the badge and
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telling people how to drive.
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Oh, until I show it to a lady, young lady, she made a phone call and I had
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three police cars behind me, and I was arrested and charged with impersonating
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a police officer, which is a felony.
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It happens to be that I got a restraining order against me by this
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lady, and a month later I Googled her.
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I see a picture that she was getting married, and I look at
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the fiance and who was the fiance?
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The police officer who arrested me.
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Wow.
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And I was basically, I was fired from a job and I was hospitalized, and I
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got into front pages on those papers.
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I was executive of prestigious is in organization and
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impersonated police officer.
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I even was on front pages on newspapers from Japan to island, and I never touched
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anybody and I went into deep depression.
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I lost everything, all my teaching and workshops and consulting.
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Everything was canceled and I have four cases against me in four different courts.
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Then I went into a sofa.
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Into fetal position for eight months of darkness until one morning Jean, I felt
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that energy pulling me up on the couch and calling me up, pushing me up to my
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office, and it got to my office and on my desk I found thumb something, which I am
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not sure how it got there, and I took it.
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I open it, and it was a file with.
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A test on positive psychology.
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I had taken a few years before, and I look at my top five strengths,
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creativity, curiosity, love of learning, perseverance and courage.
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And an energy came to me.
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A switch was turned inside of me.
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Alfredo, this is you.
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This is you.
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And a month later with those strengths.
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I had forgotten.
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I went back to school in the middle of the court cases, in the middle
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of the depression, social work school, and became a social worker.
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I had the best grades of old school and I said, I need to go throughout the world
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giving people the gift of knowing their top five strengths of positive psychology,
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because I learned that 70% of people.
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Seven out of 10 people in the United States are not aware of their top
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positive psychology strengths and there is an epidemic of strengths blindness
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in our country and other countries.
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Wow.
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You have quite had quite a journey.
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Oh yeah.
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I'm wiser.
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I'm wiser and stronger.
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Absolutely.
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So tell me a little bit about how you work with your clients during your, helping
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them understand their strengths and moving into being using that positive psychology.
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Yes.
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If you know your strengths, you're going to be able to flourish nine
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times more just by knowing them.
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If you apply them 18 times more, then.
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You walk into your workplace any place and you, okay.
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We have 10 people, likely seven of them are going to be working nine
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to 18 times below their potential.
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Then the first thing I do at companies, organizations, with individual that
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I coach, whatever the problem is, whatever the challenge is, whatever
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the dream is, we always begin with the strength workshop clarification,
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and I make sure that everybody around the table or the individual
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owns the the five top strengths.
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That's the first thing I do, no matter the situation, you cannot.
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Solve problems, be motivated and be resilient.
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You are not using your strengths.
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Do you have some kind of like test that you do with them?
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Yes.
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Or is it a meeting or how do you determine?
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I use what is called the BI instrument Values in Action, which is a, an
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instrument that maps your strengths.
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Is today the most used instrument in the world?
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16 million people a year.
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Take it.
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The most reliable and consistent instrument today on the market,
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scientifically proven, it takes half an hour to do online and you get
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the 24 strengths, the 24 of positive psychology and your top five, and then
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we work on what you do best, not in trying to correct what you don't do.
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Great.
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I love that because I do think some people spend too much time trying to be better
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at something that's not their strength.
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And inevitably they never get to the place they wanna get because it, they're
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not meant to be there in the first place.
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Exactly.
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And we don't waste time with the, I'll tell you, there is
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now a politically correct.
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Let's work on.
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Vulnerability.
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There is nowhere I go that they not ask me about vulnerability.
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Rene Brown, who is the main person, did a good job marketing it.
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No.
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Why?
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Vulnerability.
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We are living in the world with the most anxiety, depression, and uncertainty ever.
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Okay.
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Vulnerability.
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Any way you want to define it is about fragility.
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No, I have a different take.
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We begin with strengths.
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We need to make people strong.
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We don't have to apologize.
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They're called character strengths.
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Not only strengths, character, because there is about how
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we are at your best, okay?
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And it's about the whole person.
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It's not a talent or a skill.
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It's about who you are.
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Then I go a little bit against, not a little bit, a lot against this new
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kind of fashion of the vulnerable.
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I work with people's strengths.
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I love that.
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So once you, once someone takes the exam, then do you coach them?
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Do you meet with them on a regular basis to help them work on their strengths?
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Teams?
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They have a workshop.
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It takes around two hours.
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We go through games.
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It's all game based and simulations where everybody gets the strengths.
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We have also a team profile strengths outta the individual strengths.
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I determine.
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How, what are the strengths of the team?
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And then it's amazing because, I'll tell you an example.
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I was in Chile, I work a lot of South America, and there were 10 people
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of a sales team and nine of them had among the top three honesty.
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Which is a very good strength to have.
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But every Monday morning they had the meeting at the beginning of the week and
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they go into a fight into with each other.
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Okay.
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Bad toxicity.
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And I asked them simulate a Monday morning meeting and immediately what
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the problem was is that because honesty was so prevalent, they were too honest.
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They were overusing the honesty strength.
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They had no filter because that's where they felt original, authentic, and
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motivated because they were honest.
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Then we were laughing like crazy because once we determined that
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honesty was the central character strength and they were overusing it,
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then we work on communication skills.
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How can you be honest and tactful and caring and empathic?
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Then.
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Then by we adjusted the language, they kept the honesty, which was a strength
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of the team, but we managed to have a conversation that was productive.
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That's the kind of magic that strength work can do for a team and
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an individual who is too honest.
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You know, that's a problem with your top strength.
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You overuse them.
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Okay.
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It is not only using them that is productive to, for
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you, it's to use it right.
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In the right context.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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'cause I can see that honesty is, it's important and it's a great
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value to have, but sometimes you, you need to hold back a little bit.
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Yeah.
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But humility, for example, some here, a lot people are very humble.
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Then they complain to me that they let other people run over them
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all the time and take advantage why they're overusing being.
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Humble to a point in which don't assert themselves, then
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that's the kind of work I do.
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I love that.
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So tell us a little bit about, you talked about a sales team that you worked with.
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What other kinds of teams, is there anything similar about the
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different clients that you work with?
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It's very interesting.
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The problems are the same problems no matter what are problems of
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loyalty, motivation, resilience.
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Okay.
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And this is a universal tool.
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Your strengths can be used for anything.
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Look, I am publishing a book, it's coming out in a few months.
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It's been published under the John Maxwell label.
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For those who know about leadership, then, uh, is in a solid book, and
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the name is the Human Upgrade.
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The new leadership for the AI revolution, then AI is a blessing,
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but it's bringing a lot of problems.
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We are seeing on studies that as you introduce new technology, the
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level of depression, uncertainty, and anxiety on the people, right?
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Right.
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Is you know a lot then what the book does, applies all the wisdom.
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Positive psychology to introducing technology while upgrading the human.
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Yeah.
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AI has changed so many things and it can be a positive influence and
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it can be a negative influence.
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I think it, it has to do a lot with how you're using it and how you want to
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use it, and I would think bringing in the positive psychology part of it is
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helping use it, I don't wanna say for good, but using it in a positive way.
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It's a very simple equation, Jean.
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People bring technology companies, bring technology.
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People feel weak compared to technology.
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Didn't feel as efficient, as strong, as fast as accurate.
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Give them strength to uplift them and be able to work with the technology.
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Positive psychology gives that strength and purpose also.
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Purpose is very important.
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I work with purpose a lot.
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Okay.
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That's another thing that company ask me to do.
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What is the purpose?
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Because without purpose, people come to work lost and motivated.
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Okay.
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You need to have purpose clear for best performance.
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Yeah, that makes total sense.
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We always say clarity is equals velocity.
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So people can move forward and progress if they're clear on what they're
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doing and how they're doing it and what their goal and motivation is.
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And it's amazing because people ask me what purpose is
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and I say purpose is clarity.
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Yeah.
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I love that.
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That's brilliant.
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You will have to give us the link to your book once it's out and we will make
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sure that we put it in the show notes.
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Okay?
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Sure.
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Absolutely.
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It sounds fantastic.
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So.
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If somebody is in a position right now where they're not sure what their
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strengths are, aside from coming to you, what's one thing that they could start
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with to move them in the right direction?
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People listening to the now, how to get them without having to take test.
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Then if they take their phone and they text the word positive to 3, 3, 7, 7, 7.
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Okay, just the word positive to 3 3 7 7 7.
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I will email them the 24 a chart with the 24 strengths of polyps
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psychology, a couple of questions by which they can determine the top
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five and a couple of exercises to maximize the strengths from nine to 18.
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Okay.
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At least that will give them the initial step to know the strengths.
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Then just text me and we so happy.
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Because my goal is a couple of people a day who know the strengths.
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That's my purpose.
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Then, yes, that's a way then we can work one on one.
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I could work with companies to have it scientifically done, TE test,
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but this will give you, at least you should know, do 24 to 24 cataract
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strengths and a couple of questions.
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How to begin thinking and choosing them.
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Just text positive two.
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Positive 3, 3, 3.
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Seven.
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Seven, seven.
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Easy.
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3, 3, 7. Seven, seven.
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Yep.
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That's so cool.
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And what a great gift.
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So thank you for, oh no.
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It's a commitment I have.
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I want everybody.
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I had this hundred 80 degrees changing lives through my top strengths.
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Okay?
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Get sub.
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When I learned that seven out of 10 people don't know them and they have
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it already, it's not that they have to cultivate them and they use them,
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but they use them unintentionally because they are not aware.
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Once you bring them to consciousness and you are in control of them, then
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you maximize them from nine to 18 times.
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It's amazing.
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You have them already get them.
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Yeah.
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I would think that also makes them happier and feel more fulfilled because
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they're living in their strengths.
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They feel confident and excited.
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Yeah.
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Positive psychology is called by many, the science of happiness.
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It's something that I don't like to use.
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I like more the science of wellbeing.
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I'm flourishing, but they're all connected.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I totally agree.
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So do you work in, I know you're in New York, but it sounds
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like you also worked in Chile.
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So do you work in all the countries?
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An airplane takes me.
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Excellent.
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That's a lot of places.
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Yeah.
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You did also mention nonprofits.
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Tell me a little bit about that work.
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Yeah.
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I work with a lot of religious institutions actually, and foundations.
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Completely different animal.
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Then when a work with not-for-profit, they have sometimes it, not that many times
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in religious institutions, they have a more, more clear view of their purpose.
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The language is more purpose driven, but they have more
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dysfunctionality their corporations.
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Because corporations have all the red tape and I have to go sometimes through,
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through HR and have 20 meetings Before I do it, I give it to our workshop and,
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and it's, the process is very slow.
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Okay?
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But when I get there, they there these hierarchy structures, language.
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Okay.
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Roles.
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When I go for to not-for-profit and religious institutions,
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the process is easier.
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I just talk with the executive or whoever and come tomorrow.
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Okay.
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But because they work with a lot of volunteers and their budget is
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usually smaller and they need much more work on, at the structural
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level, the functioning is not optimal.
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Then they are, they work a little bit more on using the strength for process.
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Okay.
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And how to harmonize the strength in the system.
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Yeah.
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I feel like that, I love both of them because nonprofits just work on, I wanna
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say a shoes string, but they have the least amount of employees because they
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wanna, they want the organization to benefit and the people they're helping.
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So yeah, I can totally see that and I can totally see that you
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make a huge difference for them.
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I do make it if look, if people are stressed out, then give them strength
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and purpose in some ways, simple, some ways to say, some ways, simple to say,
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but not always simple to implement.
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What is interesting about positive psychology and purpose is that it's
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a science, then you don't waste time.
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Sometimes the coaching process and the consulting process take months and months.
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Here the results are immediate.
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You know your strength, you know your purpose, you begin.
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It's incredible how immediate the change is.
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Then there is a sustainability process, okay?
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But the change is immediate.
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That's something very unique to positive psychology.
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I love that.
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I am so grateful that you joined me today and I'm so grateful
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for what you do in the world.
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Thank you.
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I'm sure you're making a huge positive impact and we all need that right now.
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So thank you.
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Thank you so much.
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So if aside from texting you, if other, if people wanna reach out
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to you or learn more about what you do, where should they go?
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Very simple.
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They should know.
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We all should know that the first word on my website is positive and positive ab.
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Alfredo bosky positive ab.com, my website, you know there my book is
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going to be announced, available.
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I have my workshops and a way to get in touch.
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Perfect.
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That sounds fantastic.
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And we'll put all that in the show notes so people can just
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click on those to get there.
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So my last question for you is the same one I asked all my guests.
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If you could provide one tip to make the world a better place, what would that be?
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Yes.
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Shifting from fixing to nourishing, okay.
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Since we were children, everything on us, everything outside.
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People outside who loved us, school, parents, coaches, is
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about fixing what is weak.
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And what it did is the reverse of the word intention.
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The word intention, not to make us better, actually to be all the time looking.
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What we do wrong and then learning to look what other people do wrong.
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Okay.
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Imagine we can use all that energy to help people do great what they're doing.
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Good to maximize the potential.
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Okay?
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And we, managers I work with on their reviews, they go straight
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to what we need to improve.
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No.
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First you go into what we are doing great and what we can do better, and
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when people are giving that chance, then themselves begin actually improving, but
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they're not doing great from a point of strength, then from fixing to nourishing,
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that's what I would say everybody to do.
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That is fantastic, Alfredo, what a lovely way to end our show.
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Thank you so much to you.
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Thank you to our listeners, and we look forward to reaching out
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and we look forward to seeing your book when it comes out.
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Thank you, and thank you for great questions.
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It's a pleasure being here.
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