In the Season Two finale of Women of Rock, Tammy discusses the introduction of Foo Fighters' new drummer Josh Freese in the "Preparing Music for Concerts" video, their first shows, Shane Hawkins' appearance at Boston Callling; and shares an emotional reaction to their new album, "But Here We Are."

Preparing Music for Concerts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIWsFCB7XxU&feature=youtu.be

Shane Hawkins - “I’ll Stick Around” at Boston Calling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAQd4DRhu3I

New Album - “But Here We Are," each song with lyrics available on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyjqnQsvvnpIWgPhsCxxFDycPrxljTvLB

#foofighters #joshfreese #shanehawkins

Greetings and welcome to this latest episode of The Women of Rock.

I'm one of your hosts, Kimberly Gunn.

Hi, I'm Tammy Holzer.

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So now you know we are gonna be featuring and talking about one of

Tammy's favorite bands, foo Fighters, and all the goings on with the new

drummer, the new show, and what's been going on in the world with them.

So Tammy, I know you are a huge diehard Foo Fighters fan and our Women of Rock,

podcast started with a tribute to Taylor Hawkins way back when, in September, 2022.

what's been going on in the world of the Foo Fighters?

Oh my God.

Okay.

So much the in the last.

Three weeks so much has happened.

They rolled out the intro of their new drummer, Josh GREs, which

everybody probably knows right now.

But they did that in a really cool way with, with the, looked

like a band rehearsal video.

And then a couple days later they started.

Their first shows and then a couple days after that, they rolled out their new

album and it's just been an emotional rollercoaster for everybody, for me,

for the fans, I'm sure for the band.

it's been highly emotional, so we have a lot to talk about today.

Awesome, awesome.

You know, and I was able to check out that re rehearsal video and I thought

it was really clever the way it started out, and it had a lot of comedy, and

I think that really helped to kind of lighten up and, and, you know, start

off on a, kinda like a new, new footing.

What did you think about that?

So I thought it was great.

So first of all, when they released it, the first few people that came

in the room like Chad from Red Hot Chili Peppers, the idea is that these

are kind of drummers that knew Taylor Hawkins but also maybe had been rumored

to be joining Foo Fighters, you know?

So Chad walked in first and I thought that was super funny.

And then Tommy Lee walked in and Tommy Lee was wearing a vandals

t-shirt and he had PF Changs.

And at that moment I knew it was Josh Freese because I followed Josh Freese

on Instagram and he's all about, he's, he, is really, you know what?

He's weird.

And he'll, he, by his own admission, he's like, this Instagram is weird.

Like, welcome, welcome to the circus.

But, so he's got this thing with PF Chang's.

and his first band that he ever played in was the Vandals.

So I knew right then it's Jo, it's gotta be Josh.

And so it was just kind of like Easter egg things, 'you

know, showing that it was Josh.

And then the third person comes in and it's Danny from Tool

and he's, he has two poodles.

And then it was like, done, cuz Josh Freese has three poodles,

so they're standardized poodles.

So I was just like, holy cow, it's Josh Freese.

So like, I loved it cuz it was super upbeat.

It was, the whole thing.

And then they opened with all my life, which is always like the most

high energy song that they have.

They always get the crowd going.

And Dave was smiling, the whole band was smiling, everybody was happy.

Josh was wearing a, a name tag that said, says, hi, my name is Josh, you know.

So I just thought it was hysterical and, and it made me feel.

Super excited for, for Josh, like, and, and to have Josh and I know how

talented he is and he's like the perfect

fit.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

That's awesome.

And, and just to kind of review some of the, the discussions that we've had on

several of the episodes, you know, Taylor Hawkins, the, the drummer passed away

and, we were talking about that, how they were gonna deal with his, replacement.

Mm-hmm.

I mean, he's really irreplaceable, but, for the band to find a way to

move forward, here we are, you know, with a, with a new, new band member.

How do you feel about that aspect of it?

Well, let

me just say for people watching, our first episode was a recap of the

Taylor Hawkins tribute concert, and so that's what kicked off, sort of

our format in Women of Rock because.

because of that show and it was highly emotional.

You know, you can go back and we'll link it down below,

you can go back and watch it.

But since then it's been really interesting.

One of the points I wanted to make today about everything that's happened in the

last three weeks with the Foo Fighters is that they've rolled out stuff very quickly

and for my own experience, and I wonder how many other people feel this too, it.

I am still processing Taylor Hawkins passing away.

So in that time, from the last concerts in September, tribute

concerts, there was, we heard nothing.

You know, there were Dave sightings here and there, and those concerts were

so emotional and, and heart-wrenching.

I, for myself, took a few weeks to like recover from that emotionally

and then, You know, time goes on and, nothing, so New Year's day or, or New

Year's Eve, Dave had posted a letter On social media basically saying that

they're gonna move forward, and it's like, okay, they're gonna move forward.

So again, no word, no nothing until this video was released.

So in, in May, so from September to, and maybe even before then.

From September to May, they've been making an album.

They've been making plans to tour.

They've been going through.

Not only have they been making an album, they've been grieving, they've

been coming together as a band.

They've been going through this whole process and, and

now are in a different place.

They're, I'm, I'm sure you know, they're still grieving.

They're still getting used to like, It.

The grievance is never done, but they're further ahead than let's say I am

because when I started to see that video with Josh Fries first I was excited.

And then when I saw the first clips of Boston Calling, which was their

first festival a few days later, and Shane Hawkins got up And performed

a song with the Foo Fighters.

And that's a great clip.

We'll reference that down here.

I don't know if you saw that, Kimberly, but it's a hysterical

clip and it's really good.

So when that happened, I started to feel like, oh, you know, like.

Even though Josh is one of the most, if not the most amazing drummer in the world

right now, most accomplished, he's a, a really accomplished sessioned drummer.

He is highly sought out.

He is probably the best suited technically for this band.

It's not Taylor.

It's not.

There's not that emotional connection to Josh yet.

and Josh doesn't appear to be a very emotional guy, and Josh isn't gonna

get out from behind the drums and sing a Queen song like Taylor did.

And so, and Taylor played with such passion and heart and emotion.

Not that Josh doesn't, but it's just different.

It's just a different feel.

And so to see Shane up there playing with so much.

Teen angst, grief and passion, just full on passion.

it kind of hurt.

It kind of hurt to see it.

And then I started to realize like, you know, this isn't,

this is, this is a little weird.

It's not gonna be as easy as, okay, Josh is in and we're just gonna move on.

And things are different.

Josh plays different, Josh plays just a tiny bit faster, you know, or, and.

It's a different dynamic with the band, and it sounds a little different.

Taylor, I didn't realize how much Taylor was a backup singer

to Dave and how much he's sang.

You know, that's gone.

And then there's some different Oh, okay.

Things, things are a little di, just a little different.

And then when they released the album, that's when I just lost it.

That's when, that's when all of the grief came surfacing up.

And I know I, I thought I was the only one, but I am not the only one

because I saw it all over online.

I saw men, I saw everybody just sobbing, you know, reading the

lyrics, listening to the music.

And that was a good two weeks for me solid, like waves of grief for

two solid weeks, which is nothing in the, in the, in the time of grief.

But it's been about two weeks since.

Since that album has come out.

So that's been part of the rollercoaster.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, that, that's so interesting because we've, a couple of the episodes

we focus on that, grief and, and how do we process the grief of these

musicians that we don't really know personally, but we feel that we do, we

really do in a lot of ways because the music has been a part of our lives.

And so, to hear you talk about it in those terms, I can imagine, I can feel

how emotional it was and, and still obviously is for you and probably

a lot of the Food Fighters fans.

Huh?

Yes.

And there's another added layer of this, and that is that Dave's mom

passed away during, last summer.

And so after Taylor passed away in March, Dave lost his

mother in July, I think, July.

They don't have the exact date.

And so, you know, he wrote a, she was all over the scene.

Everybody knew Dave's mom and knew the special bond that they had together and

also, He, he wrote a book with her, from Cradle to Stage, which is a great book.

I read it about, she interviewed and they actually made a TV show

out of it too, like a series on, I think it's Paramount, I think.

But anyway.

Interviewing all these different musicians and their mothers.

She mostly the, their mothers about, did they know if it this, you know,

Pharrell Williams was gonna be a music, you know, huge musician or Getty Lee from

Rush, you know, this great interviews.

But anyway, there was this added layer of grief because

when the songs came out, ugh.

You know, like reading the lyrics, hearing the songs, and there was

something I think, I believe that came through energetically in

the songs that was just crushing.

So for me, I have a son I knew, I know what that mother son bond is like.

oh my God.

I'm gonna burst into tears now.

Thinking, like hearing from Dave's perspective, how crushing

it was to lose his mother.

Awful.

See, like, I'm, I'm still emotional about it.

It's so, it's absolutely crushing heartbreaking in the best possible way,

like, We're all going to experience grief.

Like if you haven't experienced it yet, you're going to, if you love somebody,

which hopefully we all do, even if it's an animal, even if it's somebody you

don't even know, you know, but most of all, those that you love dearly.

And when, he wrote, he wrote these songs from his own.

Experience of grief, and you could just feel it, you could

just read it like any, anytime.

Some of the, well, and the other thing was, is they released all of

the videos with the lyrics mm-hmm.

On YouTube, and they kind of, you know, streamed them out one by one and

then they released the album and then, and then they released all of the.

You know, all of the songs.

So you, you hear it and you read the lyrics and it's so, it just,

it's just crushing, you know?

So you're, I was kind of like, some of it sounded like grief about Taylor.

Some of it was grief about his mom.

He wrote a song called The Teacher.

His mom was a school teacher for over 30 years, and he wrote a 10 minute epic song.

that's a masterpiece.

The whole, the whole album is a masterpiece.

It really, that was my first thought when I heard everything.

I'm like, this is a masterpiece.

This is, this isn't any, like anything.

We've, I don't know, maybe from my generation, have

ever seen or experienced or.

And the fact that it's touching so many people on that grief

level, it's really healing.

But this is what the band has been going through.

You know, back to your point of like what happened after Taylor Hawkins concerts

to now this is what they've been doing.

So I'm sure it's, I mean, I can't even imagine the level of.

Emotion and everything, but we're just hearing it for the first time.

So I feel like there's this catching up.

Like they released everything so fast, that video, all of a sudden

they're out on the road in concerts.

And then that album, it was just like, I can't, I can't, I'm not,

I'm not where you guys are yet.

You know, like I'm so glad that wherever they are in their, you know,

in their grief journey, It's ahead of where we are because it end, we

didn't have that experience after the Taylor Rocks tribute concerts.

We were, that's where my grief stopped.

So to have this, you know, and then it, it just, it touches on your own grief.

It's not just, I'm so sad for day, you know, although I am, but

there's something about it that.

Touches your own experience of grief and allows you to heal.

And that's what I've been reading about comments online, people commenting,

I, I lost my mom or you know, I lost so and so, or my spouse or whatever.

And, and, and that is, that is a universal theme.

That is something we will all go through and.

They just did it so brilliantly and you know, just one other note about

back to the Taylor Hawkins concerts, that was something we've never seen.

We talked about that a lot on this show too.

We have never seen that kind of tribute.

I have never experienced that kind of an emotion, grief and

celebration at, at a show.

I mean, I wasn't even at the show.

I was watching, you know, streaming it online, but.

That's something we've never seen.

And this album is the same way.

Yeah.

You know, you just, you put out so much, with that, last, bit of information and

I think one of the things that really struck me as you were talking, that I

thought about was, this is like one of the first bands that I can think of in

a long time that has lost a member that then keeps going and it's been such a.

You know, public kind of grieving process because we've had musicians pass away,

but a lot of the times they were solo artists so they didn't have a, another,

band to, to pick up and keep going.

So we've obviously grieved for people that we've lost.

But here, they're this huge band.

Taylor was such a key part of the band, as you said, not just the drumming,

but the, the background vocals.

and to.

Keep pushing forward in light of all that, I think is really spectacular.

I think they've done an amazing job honoring his, his musical presence, but

still finding a way to move forward with the band and, and acknowledge the fans.

You know, I know that the Foo Fighters fans are die hard and obviously the band

members in Dave Grohl celebrate them.

And I thought, I think that's just so interesting to, to see and

experience and to have you on, talking about it as well, your own personal

feelings as a, as a big fan about it.

Well, one, you know, remember Foo Fighters were born out of the

ashes of Nirvana, and after Kurt Cobain passed away, and Dave Grohl.

recorded some songs on his own as a way to heal from Nirvana and

from Kurt Cobain passing away.

So, that's how this band was born.

And you're right, I, there have been a lot of musicians that have passed

away over the years, but this is the first time we're seeing it public.

No other band has had a tribute concert other than like, Queen but

that was years later, you know, Freddie Mercury's, tribute, but

that was years and years later.

So, I, I would say Queen is the other, exception, but I don't know

that they were very public about it.

So this is kind of the first public in a way, and I, I think it's such

a beautiful template for tributes and, and that kind of thing.

but also I know that.

Davis talked several times over the years in interviews that the only

way he knew how to move forward after Nirvana was to play music.

That was the thing that was going to heal him.

So I kind of knew that he was gonna move forward in some way

and, and now I understand because that's what he did after Nirvana.

I don't know how he did it after his mom passed away the same year.

That's, that's kind of the resilience, of just being able to, to do something

that quickly and, and be, somewhat on the road again and, and all that.

Now, I also wanna say things, it looks like things are changing in a good way.

I think that they're taking on less shows.

I, I think, I think the tour, I imagine the touring schedule's

gonna change and not be so heavy.

I think that the shows are going to be two hours instead of three hours.

I think that, I just think maybe the message out of some of that was

that they needed to slow down a bit.

And, and, you know, dare I say, practice some more self-care, or,

or have a, have better balance because they would, they would play

any gig anywhere night after night.

and, and not really have any boundaries.

And, there were some reports of Taylor, really struggling with that toward the

end and struggling with the pace and struggling with the workload, especially

as a drummer, such a physical, you know, and the way that he drums and mm-hmm.

So, I've noticed that I've, I don't know if it will continue, but I've noticed it.

I've checked out their tour schedule and, and that kind of thing, and I'm

like, you know, even watching that video.

From their, their introduction of Josh Freese.

Even then, like they would do songs and they would take a little

break in between and you would see Josh like, like breathing.

Really like catching his breath.

Cuz he pleas a beast.

Like he plays like you wouldn't believe, but they didn't just go right.

You know, they, it, it didn't seem like they were pushing, they were playing

really hard, but they were taking breaks.

And I'm like, that's different.

Mm-hmm.

That's really different.

so I wonder if that is, is part of how it will be from now on too,

which I think is really healthy.

I don't know if it will.

It's just something I, I've noticed.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

And I wanted to talk a little bit about their tour, cause

I was, checking that out too.

I know it's running through January, I think 24 and they hit, north

America and then they go, I think to Canada and then down under as well.

Are you, are you able to catch 'em on this, this tour?

I'm trying.

Everything's sold out.

Oh, wow.

In the us Oh, yeah.

I mean, beyond sold out.

So I'm trying, I'm, I'm still watching for tickets.

but I think they, they're in North Amer and they're not playing that many shows,

so they're playing some festivals, some, you know, large festivals.

They've got some shows, and the shows are kind of random, like Spokane, Washington.

I'm like, dang my hometown.

Are you freaking kidding?

That's sold out.

But but that's not a huge, you know, it's not like LA or New

York or anything like that.

They're playing like some, I think they're playing I think like Salt Lake

City or, you know, like kind of some random, city, like maybe, I don't know.

I don't know why they're playing those areas, but.

But they are, and everything's sold out.

And then they go to Europe, for a while.

And I think I, I, I'm sure they'll, they'll be announcing more dates in 2024.

So if I can't get on the show this year, which I am gonna try everything I can too.

But if not, I'm sure they're gonna be touring again in 2024.

And it'll be really interesting to see how that schedule looks.

And if they do change, and if they do, I wonder.

If Josh will continue to be that primary drummer.

I mean, it sounds like you will, but I wonder if they'll

interject Shane here and there.

That'll be interesting.

and, Dave's daughter, violet has been singing background vocals here and there,

and she's been doing that for the band for a while and she's got an amazing voice.

Yes, she does.

So it, it's, and it's really cool, you know, like, like we talked about

with our episode on Crowded House.

What I noticed, like having that father son, the father sons play in the same

band, like it just, it infused so much.

The next generation, you know, it infused so much energy and you can't

get those tones anywhere else, you know?

So I'm really kind of happy to see.

Violet and Shane who are like, I, I believe they're both

like 16, 16, 17 at the most.

but I think around, anyway, it's really great to see them and I, I

suspect and hope that, that that continues, but we'll see over time.

Mm-hmm.

You know, what, what kind of role they play.

Yeah, I wanted to just, just touch on what you were talking about

with the, you know, a lighter schedule or, concerts that aren't as long and,

I wonder how, I, I can't imagine what it takes to get up there and do that

night after night show after show and looking over at the drum set and not

seeing Taylor and just that emotional heaviness of how that plays into.

You know the tour as well.

You know it's mm-hmm.

So

I can't imagine it.

Yeah, I mean, exactly.

It's not, you're right.

Not even just the physical, it's the emotional toll.

I can't imagine what that first show felt like and Yeah, and to

look back and to play with somebody for over 25 years, 26 years, and.

And who knows what happened.

this is where a cut of my mind goes with the grief and stuff too.

who knows what happened in those last moments?

We don't know what kind of trauma the band's dealing with either you.

It's a traumatic situation.

So not only have they lost somebody, they're probably dealing with some

pretty serious trauma as well.

The whole family is one thing I, I did notice too is they're bringing their

families, all of their families, and Taylor Hawkins family too, his ex,

his wife, Allison, you know, the kids, everybody, the families are traveling

with the band and the shows and I think that that's really cool and I

think they've really banded together.

I think it's great that they're in.

I, I mean, I don't know what the protocol is, but, but that Allison's

still so involved and the kids are still so involved and it's like they're

still, they're still part of the band.

They're still, you know, Taylor's gone, but they're still part of the band and.

I noticed on Taylor's on the one year, back in March, on the one year

anniversary of Taylor's passing, Alison threw a party for everybody.

Alison threw a backyard barbecue and Dave Gro was, you know, he loves to barbecue.

He's got his whole barbecue thing, and he was out there barbecuing.

You know, I saw they didn't really announce that I just saw, you know, like

one or two social media pics, but, That somebody, somebody from the party snapped.

But it was a family, it was a family barbecue and it was a celebration of life.

Mm-hmm.

You know, and I thought, God, that's great.

You know, I've hit some one year anniversaries with, you know, some people

that have passed and that first and even the second year, those anniversaries

are really tough and you just, kind of batten down the hatches and, and

try to create some rituals around.

You know how to handle that day.

Mm-hmm.

the, the first birthday, the first, holiday, the first anniversary, and,

I even have a network of friends that, we call and, relatives and we,

call and reach out to each other, Hey, I know it's the anniversary.

How are you doing?

You know, like, and just, just to have that acknowledgement.

And I, and so I always looked at it as this thing to kind of dread and.

And how am I going to get through it?

Or, or again, what ritual can I, can I create or something?

Never in a million years did I think of having a barbecue.

That's fucking awesome.

I love that they did that.

I'm sure it was emotional, but they were all together.

I really think that, and from what David said, I really think that they're getting

through this as a family, as a band, as a family, as that whole family unit.

And embracing it and getting through the, you know, the best way they can

by celebrating, I think it's wonderful.

Mm-hmm.

But to your point, it has gotta be so emotional night after night,

that emotional toll is exhausting.

Mm-hmm.

Too.

Yeah.

Cuz it, you know, it's one thing to have a one-off concert, right.

And then, but it's another thing to have to come back and do it again.

And, and to have those feelings keep coming up over and over and over again.

So.

Yeah.

You know, I've looked at them, go through this process and I've

learned so much just about the band from you and, and our discussion.

So I really appreciate that because I think it's, you know, there's, with all

of it, there's a larger dynamic going on it, it's grief and how we move through it.

And I know that it's, you know, it's, it's a,

it's a, it's, it's bigger than the band.

It's bigger.

Bigger than, than.

The album, it is that grief, it is that, that universal, that human experience.

And, you know, they could have said, you know, we're, we're done.

I, I know that.

la last thing I heard with, Fleetwood Mac, I saw an interview

with, with, the drummer.

Is it Mick?

Mick Fleetwood, right?

Mm-hmm.

And he was saying after Christine passed, he was like, the, the band is done.

They're like, we're not moving forward.

We can't move forward without her.

She was such a, she was a pillar, a member of the band.

So, you know, that was then, I don't know how they feel now.

And so that was a choice where they decided to say, we're

not gonna get back together.

So I think for the Foo Fighters to, to say, we're gonna keep going.

We're gonna, we have this drummer over here.

He's with us.

I think it's amazing.

I I really do.

Because they could have, I'm surprised

that done something different best.

Mm-hmm.

I really am.

I am.

I, I thought it might be a couple years, but to come, so they must

have picked up right after the Taylor Hawkins shows because, I saw on

Instagram, Josh Freese's wife, Nic Freese for anybody on, on Instagram.

She had posted right after they announced Josh, she'd posted, I've

had to keep this quiet for months and months, and I thought months and months,

like we just found out, you know?

So how long has this been going on?

Like how long has this been going on?

you know, we, we didn't know.

So was it at right after the Taylor Hawkins tribute?

Cause was it before?

You know, I don't know.

may in any case, it's been, it's been going on a while, so I am.

Pleasantly surprised.

it's much faster than I thought.

And that's kind of been part of the adjustment period.

There's an adjustment period too.

Like, wait, they've been working on working on this and Wait, I have to.

Okay.

Josh is in, by the way, Josh plays for a lot of other bands.

Mm-hmm.

If you look him up, You know, Wikipedia, him, Google him, look on his Instagram.

He has played for legendary bands.

And so even to get his availability, like he must have had to clear it

must have taken his some time to, you know, he, he was on tour at

the Offspring, he was on tour with.

Devo, Danny Elman, you know, like so many other bands and

I'm, and recording sessions.

I'm like, wow.

What?

He must have had to clear off his calendar, but he's now, you know, with

arguably the biggest rock band in the world and all those other bands, I saw

a lot of tributes from, from Devo and, and, you know, congratulating him.

And, so it's, it's really cool.

To have that kind of staggering loss and to come back and losses for

Dave, not just Taylor, but his mom.

I just, I don't understand how he's doing it.

I don't know how he's doing it.

And, and, and he's being very emotional about it, which is great, which I love.

He's not trying to push through, he is not trying to, like, he's openly

emotional and that's what I love.

Mm-hmm.

But still moving forward.

And it's gotta be exhausting.

You know, I, I think about like, when Michael Hutchins

died from in excess, years ago.

That band never recovered, you know, I mean, it took them 10 years

to even think about getting a new singer and playing again, 10 years.

So, I, I just, I can't believe they're doing it so quick.

I'm thrilled.

And, and that we get to experience it and grieve together and all of it.

And I haven't even talked about the shows yet, you know, like,

what that experience must be like.

Dave Grohl just put out a note the other day.

They finished up, I guess the, maybe the first leg of their tour.

he said he just wanted to thank everybody and that, he sees

everybody in the audience.

He's like, when, you know, when you sing, I sing louder.

When you scream, I scream louder.

You know, when you, when you cry, you know, it brings it ear to my eye too.

So, I have to think those shows are so emotional.

And you know what?

This for me is coming off the heels of Depeche mode.

You know, I just went and saw Depeche Mode a few months ago,

which we have that episode too.

And that was on the heels of Andrew Fletcher Die Fletcher dying.

And that show was so emotional, so and so uplifting.

So I know, and I would think that the Foo Fighters.

Is probably even more emotional.

I would, I would say, yeah.

I mean, Depeche Mode was crazy emotional, and I think the Foo Fighters, I would

probably be a puddle and probably will be, when I get a ticket to go this year.

I'm manifesting that, but yeah, you'll get a ticket.

So, but it's, but in the best possible way, emotions are great.

Like we shouldn't be afraid of emotions.

This is.

This is life, this is it.

And to, but to be able to do that together and in such a healing place, like a

concert or music or listening to an album.

I mean, it's just, it, it's just the whole experience is, I, I

don't even have a word for it.

Mm-hmm.

I, I really don't.

I mean, the album is a masterpiece.

Everything that's just the best possible.

Word I can come up with with the whole experience, but

it's even bigger than that.

Mm-hmm.

It, it's huge.

And I think that, you know, I'll, I'll put out an another, request.

If, if Dave Grohl or anyone from the band or, or their management is watching

this episode, please send Tammy a ticket because she's such a huge fan.

Get a ticket.

Oh, that's very nice.

Thank you.

I appreciate that.

You know, seek, and you she'll find and, cause you never know.

Yes, yes.

If you don't ask, you'll never get it.

That's right.

Nope.

But I think it, you know, the larger, or one larger component, and we've

talked about this before on the show, is that, you know, we're all

going to be experiencing the loss of band members that we love and

people that we love just because of the natural aging process, right?

Mm-hmm.

And so, mm-hmm.

I think the way they're handling it is, like you said, it's like

a role model or blueprint for,

for other people.

It's really healthy.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Yes.

Mm-hmm.

Yes, for sure.

And the, the fact that they're move, the, the fact that they're so public,

ab, I mean, they're public and obviously private, but you know, they're, I guess

maybe public isn't the right word.

Maybe it's emotional.

Cuz I read that article, about the letter that Dave Girl wrote, to the

fans and really thanking the fans.

And I, I know that.

The fan base has really also helped to push them forward too.

I know that that's been a big part of it too, and so to, yeah.

See, I always

love it.

It's a mutual grieving, you know, all around, which is really cool.

Mm-hmm.

And shared, shared grieving, I guess, shared, shared in different

ways, different levels, and, and, For different reasons, but yeah.

And one, one thing that stuck out one line, I think he said

that, you know, they're singing the songs, but they have a new meaning now.

And I thought, mm-hmm.

That's really interesting.

So I'll be curious to see how, as they continue to tour and put out new

music, how their sound changes to, you know, accommodate a new player.

Right.

Because it's gonna be different.

It

is.

It's already different.

Mm-hmm.

It's already different.

Yeah, you can hear it's different.

It feels different.

It's different.

And there have been some people who have, complained about, oh,

Josh Free's place, faster, or It sounds different, or, or whatever.

yeah, it is different.

and embrace it.

Be happy that they're even out because given the choice, nobody, nobody would.

Want Josh Freese there.

We would want Taylor back every, including Josh, Josh was friends with Taylor.

They came up in the Orange County, music scene together.

They were the same age.

They came from the same area.

They knew each other well.

So, you know, Josh would never have wanted the str, anybody would

give anything to have Taylor back.

But that's not the way it is.

So shut the hell off.

Yeah.

Really.

So, stop your complaining and,

yeah, stop.

I mean, I get it, but, right, and, and you know, like that's

part of the grief process too.

Those people don't realize it, you know, they might be complaining,

oh, it doesn't sound the same, or whatever, but really what that is,

is, you know, repressed, hurt or anger that, you know, Taylor's gone.

And that's what that is.

Well, and,

and the reality is that's a choice too, because they could

have tried to find someone who sounded exactly like Taylor, right?

Someone who's trying to emulate his style.

But you,

you can't, the only person that can do that is Shane.

Mm-hmm.

His son.

And interestingly enough, Shane drums more like Dave, then Taylor.

Mm-hmm.

Shane style.

It, it looks like Dave Grohl.

Yeah.

I mean it just, the way he pounds the drums and he is so into it.

He, it, he is, he looks way more like Dave Grohl than his dad,

which is really interesting.

Yeah.

It, it's just such an interesting, yeah.

It's such an interesting situation and I'm, I'm just excited for,

you know, the Foo Fighters fans.

Cause I know that they love this band.

And to see them out there, I wish them so much success with the rest of the tour.

Hope they maintain their physical and mental and emotional mm-hmm.

Wellbeing and the fans as well, because it's, it's all

gonna continue to be emotional.

Right.

Right.

It is.

It is.

and I hope, like I said one more time, Mr.

Grohl, foo Fighters Management or anybody of that ilk?

Send my girl Tammy T, our girl Tammy Tea ticket so she can come see your shows.

Absolutely.

That's very nice.

Yes, I will gladly accept that.

Awesome.

What else is going on in the world of the Foo Fighters?

Anything else you wanna report out on Tammy?

I don't think so.

I think, just, you know, check out their new album if you haven't already.

it's.

You can see every song and read every lyric on YouTube.

you can order the album.

They put out a white album, which is really cool.

so yeah, I would say check it out, grab some tissue and, yeah, and,

you know, just, just let it flow.

It's, it's great.

It's, it's a great, like I said, said it a few times already.

It's a, it's a great masterpiece, but, Also it's you know, it's,

I guess it's a turning point.

So I, it'll just, it'll be, you know, this is a, this is a, a interesting

period of time now for the next few years.

I, it's hard to think about the future of the band at this point cuz it's

just so, I, I don't, I wanna honor the grief process for everyone, but

at the same time, you know, in a year or two it will be interesting to see,

how they continue to carry on and, and, and where they go from here.

and the fans will be right along with them.

So we'll all, we'll all

go together, we'll all go together.

And, you know, I really wanted to just extend my appreciation for you coming

on the show and talking about such a, I know it's a painful experience and I

know a lot of fans feel the same way.

It's life.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

It's life.

Yeah.

I'm,

I'm glad to talk about it because.

I think it's important to connect to other people and, and to share these experiences

and especially, especially grief, you know, like you have, well, for me, I

have to talk about it and, and share it.

Those are, and especially, you know, for, there's a lot of men

that are Foo Fighters fans, a large fan base of, of theirs is, is men.

And men aren't always taught to share emotion and share feelings and.

I think Dave being very vulnerable and emotional is a great role model as well.

Cause you don't wanna bottle that stuff up.

It's not healthy.

So even if you wanna listen to the album and cry by yourself, that's okay too.

Just mm-hmm.

It's, it's okay to feel emotion, like mm-hmm.

It's all right.

You know?

Mm-hmm.

Most definitely.

Which is we're human.

And if you wanna lighten it up, grab some barbecue.

So the fact that he barbecues, cuz I love to barbecue.

I'm like, you got extra points in my book, Dave Grove for that.

So, yeah,

he's got a whole big, huge smoker and I think he has a, I

think he named his company Backbeat Barbecue or something, so, any, yeah.

Oh yeah.

Love it.

Pretty cool.

Pretty cool.

And for any Foo Fighters fans that, wanna share your experience with, all

the goings on, please leave a comment and we'd, we'd love to hear from you,

cuz I know it's just, I believe that sharing those things really help people

to move forward and, also gives people an understanding that you're not alone.

You're not the only one that's feeling sad about it or happy or

whatever you're feeling, right?

Yep.

Yep.

Let us know in the comments, please.

Awesome.

Well, thank you so much for joining us for this special

conversation about Foo fighters.

So happy to see them back out there.

I can't wait for Tammy to tell us about her, concert

experience whenever it happens.

I know it's happening.

I'll put that out there.

Thank you.

And we, we will see you next time before I forget.

Be kind and rock on and we'll see you soon.

Woo-hoo.

Bye-bye.