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Tim Goodman – Part 4 of 4 – Healthy Leadership Development
Episode 506871st May 2026 • The Ralph Moore Podcast • Ralph Moore
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In the final part of this conversation, Ralph Moore and Tim Goodman pull back the curtain on what it really takes to build a multiplying church and why so many modern approaches miss the mark.

Ralph reflects on the rise of attractional, program-driven ministry and contrasts it with the simplicity and power of Scripture-centered, Spirit-led disciple-making. Drawing from the Jesus Movement and decades of experience, he challenges the assumption that bigger, flashier, and more strategic methods produce lasting fruit.

The conversation then turns practical: how do you actually develop leaders who can multiply? Tim shares the real-time challenges of building a leadership pipeline, while Ralph offers a grounded, long-view perspective, reminding us that true multiplication isn’t fast, and it isn’t flashy. It’s relational, intentional, and often takes years to bear fruit.

You’ll hear:

  • Why program-driven church models often fall short
  • The danger of confusing activity with transformation
  • How to normalize leadership development in your church
  • Why disciple-making is more like growing roots than building systems

This episode is a needed recalibration for any leader feeling pressure to produce quick results. It’s a reminder that God’s way is slower, deeper, and ultimately far more powerful.

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