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On this episode of The Story & Craft Podcast, we sit down with actor, Chris Diamantopoulos from the Prime Video showThe Sticky”, where he co-stars alongside Margo Martindale.  Chris is known for roles in films such as “Red Notice”, “The Three Stooges”, and as the voice of Mickey Mouse.  We chat about Chris’ career trajectory, his role in the Prime Video series “The Sticky”, and personal anecdotes about his family, his Greek heritage, and being able to be around his kids while doing voiceover work from his home studio.  Additionally, he shares insights from working with George Clooney, his approach to acting, and his future aspirations as a performer.

SHOW HIGHLIGHTS

01:53 Chris's Role in Red Notice

05:59 Voice Acting During COVID

11:12 The Sticky: A Unique Show

14:20 Greek Heritage and Family

19:05 Early Acting Career

22:13 Inspiration from Film and TV

24:14 Landing the Role in The Three Stooges

27:06 Reflecting on Career Shifts

27:38 Voicing Mickey Mouse: A Dream Role

29:49 Working with George Clooney

32:51 Audition Insights and Mentorship

39:56 Directorial Aspirations

41:44 The Seven Questions

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Chris Diamantopoulos:

And so I watched him as he talked and then the journalist

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asked him, would you do it, Mr.

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Disney?

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Would you, would you do

a little of the voice?

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And he went,

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oh boy.

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And I watched what he did

with his, with his body.

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I watched what he did with his face.

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I thought, oh gosh, maybe I could do that.

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Announcer: Welcome to Story and Craft.

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Now, here's your host, Marc Preston.

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Marc Preston: All right, here we go.

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Back again.

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Welcome.

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Thank you so much for stopping back by.

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Uh, if this is your

first episode, welcome.

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My name is Marc Preston.

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And, uh, today we are sitting down with.

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Actor Chris Diamantopoulos, you might

know him from movies like George

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Clooney's The Boys in the Boat.

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He was also the bad guy in Red Notice

with Ryan Reynolds and Dwayne Johnson.

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He's been in The Three Stooges.

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Heck, he's even been the

voice of Mickey Mouse.

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And of course, we talk about that

as well as his new show, The Sticky.

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He co stars with Margo Martindale.

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It is on Prime Video.

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Watched a few episodes over the weekend.

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Very cool show.

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Chris is such a talented guy, uh, both

on stage and with a TV film, uh, also

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voiceover, he's done tons of animation.

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He is a great chat and

I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

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Uh, and it's just a cool way to reach out.

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Drop me a note.

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You can even leave me a voicemail.

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So, let's go and jump right on into it.

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I really enjoyed this chat.

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Very talented actor.

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Is Chris Diamantopoulos day

right here on story and craft.

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Hey man.

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So good to connect with you.

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I just.

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Watched you the other night.

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I was watching a red notice.

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Love, love your character.

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You had this, uh, sexy Euro

forest Whitaker thing going on,

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which I just like that sound.

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Yeah.

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I love,

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Chris Diamantopoulos: you know,

where that voice comes from.

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Actually, that's a, it's the ultimate,

uh, this is a great actor story.

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Uh, when I auditioned for the

role, um, the character was okay.

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So originally the character was

supposed to be Antonio Banderas,

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but, uh, something happened from a

budgetary and schedule standpoint.

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He couldn't do it.

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So.

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When the audition came in, they wanted

a Spanish or a Latin American bad guy.

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And, uh, I didn't feel comfortable.

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They want to put some boots.

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Well, I didn't feel comfortable doing

that only because I knew that, you know,

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there are great Latin actors out there.

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And for me to go in and impersonate

that just didn't feel right.

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So I am Greek.

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I speak Greek fluently.

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It's my first language.

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So I went in and I made them Greek.

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And I changed all of the Spanish

stuff to Greek and director loved it.

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Ross and, Marshall Thurber

absolutely loved it.

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And so when we talked about when I got the

role, he was like, look, let's make this

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guy kind of portly and he'll make him kind

of a, you know, bloated Greek billionaire.

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And I love that idea.

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And then about two weeks in before

production started, I got a call

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from him saying flag on the play.

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And I think we're going to

have to find another actor.

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And I said, why?

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He said, well, Ryan just did a

movie and the main bad guy in

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his movie was a portly Greek guy.

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And when we went through the

script recently, and he just saw

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that change, he said, I it's, it's

just too close to something I did.

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So he said, I'm really sorry, Chris,

we're gonna have to find someone else.

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I said, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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I was actually going to call you because I

thought, ah, the bloated Greek billionaire

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that's been done a million times.

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Let's make this guy a Viper.

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Let's make him of, uh, he said,

yeah, but what, where's he from?

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What's his voice?

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I said, well, he's of

indeterminate European origin.

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No one knows.

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He just popped on Interpol when he was 18.

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He goes, what does he sound like?

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I said, well, his vocal cords were cut.

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Paralyzed because his father tried

to strangle him when he was a boy.

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Marc Preston: Oh, that's right.

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Yeah.

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And

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Chris Diamantopoulos: so it was, it was

me trying to save my job and finding a

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way to make a non, non specific European

voice that, uh, uh, created that.

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So necessity breeds invention, Marc.

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Marc Preston: Well, the other

thing is I kind of dislike you

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because we're about the same age.

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I think I got like one or two years older.

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That was more than 73.

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Okay.

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75.

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Um, you, you're in way too good of shape.

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You're like the gym, man.

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I'm like, you're sort of like the totem

of where I'm trying to get to right now.

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You know, both.

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You're there,

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Chris Diamantopoulos: man.

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You look good to me.

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You look very good

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Marc Preston: to me.

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You eat well, you exercise.

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You know, it's funny, my youngest was,

went off to college, so now I'm an empty

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nester and I moved down to a little

Island in South Texas called South Padre.

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I'm kind of going for the

Jimmy Buffett lifestyle.

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I love it.

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And one of the reasons why I moved

down here is to be more active,

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literally walks on the beach every day.

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And I think that's really kind of

where I'm trying to get back to is just

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walking more and then get easing into it.

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And, uh, my kids are in way better shape.

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They're all looking.

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They're more athletic than me.

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So like, um, I was talking to my cousin,

like, I'm sorry, I've got, I got three,

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got a 21 year old daughter, uh, who's

about to graduate from, uh, uh, Loyola,

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New Orleans, going to be a teacher.

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My son's there.

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And I think he's moving and want to be

a psychologist and my, uh, baby diva, my

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18 year old daughter, Emma is going to

small university and, uh, Uh, Boca Raton.

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Oh, wait, wait a minute.

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Oh God.

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She's going to be 19 in a couple of weeks.

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When I'm thinking I'm staying the

same age, they keep getting old.

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I know you feel like a reverse.

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Uh, yeah, but, uh, but

no, I really enjoyed it.

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That's one of the things to me, you are,

I don't like to use the phrase chameleon.

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I don't think that's.

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But you really have a nice, to say

you have range would be a gross

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understatement, you know, going

from, uh, you know, three stooges

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to, to that, um, was that a, is

that like a Neumann you got there?

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It's a Neumann.

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Chris Diamantopoulos: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So I have a Neumann.

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I also have a Sennheiser,

uh, 416 next to it.

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Just depends on what I'm recording.

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I like the Neumann because And

I've got it on this sort of Omni,

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so that if I'm moving around,

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Marc Preston: that's, that's the

same thing I got in my booth.

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Actually, I've got a booth right here.

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Uh, I got a four 16 cause I do

mostly promo and actually it's funny

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cause I know you, uh, I saw you were

in, uh, the Kennedy's, you played

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Sinatra and I was actually the

voice of reels channel at the time.

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And that was like a really

big deal for the network.

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It kind of put them, it was over the edge.

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It was a big show for them.

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Yeah.

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And, uh, you have

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Chris Diamantopoulos: a great promo voice.

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I did promo all through.

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I mean, basically from 2001

to:

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of promo in New York City.

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That was my, my bread and butter.

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Marc Preston: During Covid, were

you doing a lot of the animation

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from home, you know, when you

couldn't go in, or did you have that

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set up and, uh, kind of a screen?

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Yeah, so

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Chris Diamantopoulos: yeah, I, um, I

did a lot of animation before Covid.

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Uh, we lived, you know, I

started doing animation.

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Quite regularly in about 2004 is

when it really sort of began for me.

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Uh, and I lived between New York and

LA and, uh, you know, between:

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2020, you really weren't doing stuff from

home booth, even if you had a studio,

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you were always going into studio.

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Um, because the producers were all

of a little bit different generation.

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They were still used

to wanting to see you.

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That's right.

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They wanted you, they wanted you there.

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Um, which was great.

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You know, there was a

great sense of community.

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Um, I was living in New York.

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And I had a few series going a few

animated series going at the time and

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COVID hit and I didn't have a booth

in my apartment in New York City and,

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um, I lost, I lost a bunch of work

because they needed to, to pivot to,

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uh, uh, a way where they had talent

that had, you know, studio space.

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So we moved.

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Not for this reason, but we

moved back to Los Angeles.

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And one of the first things

that I did was I took the risk

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of building a proper studio.

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I have a proper studio.

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Oh yeah.

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Yeah.

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You didn't,

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Marc Preston: you didn't

get a pre made booth.

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You actually kind of, uh,

retrofitted a space in your home.

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I took an

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Chris Diamantopoulos: actual building.

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And, and, and, you know, it was, I

guess, uh, I don't know, a guest house

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or something, but I turned the whole

thing into a proper studio, a recording

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studio, and also, um, a taping studio

for me to be able to make, you know,

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self tapes, you know, I'm an actor and I

have to get work and when George Clooney

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wants to see an audition and it's COVID

and you can't Go and do that someplace.

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You gotta, you know, I have speakers here.

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So I hire someone to be a reader and

it sounds like they're in the room

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and it looks like I'm doing a scene.

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So yeah, I and I and by virtue of

building this space, I was able to record.

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You know, probably 14 or 15

series over the last few years.

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Marc Preston: That is so awesome.

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The kids, when they were young, I just

wanted to be home with the kids and,

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uh, so, so my daughter, she is not

phased at all about the thing I do.

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She's not the least bit impressed,

you know, so I have four

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Chris Diamantopoulos: kids.

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I know, I know the drill

and being home is important.

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That's one of the reasons that the

studio was super important as well was,

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you know, making sure that if I'm going

to be, you know, doing recordings for

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six, seven hours, eight hours a day

that, you know, I could pop out and.

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Give them a squeeze, make them a

quick sandwich or whatever it is.

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Isn't that the greatest though?

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Isn't that

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Marc Preston: the greatest thing

where you can actually be doing your

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thing, but it's all kind of there,

you know, and it kind of gets.

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It's

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Chris Diamantopoulos: a, it's,

it's beyond a blessing, man.

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I mean, it's, it really is.

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It's a, it's a pinch me kind

of thing because it really

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doesn't, doesn't get much better.

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Although I will say that after doing

that for, A long time, you know,

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for a couple of years, you don't

mind going to a set occasionally.

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Oh, no, no, no, not in the least bit.

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No, no, no.

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Let's, uh, let's go.

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Let's, uh, how old are your kids?

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Uh, 14, 11, five and two.

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Oh, okay.

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So you've got a good spectrum.

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Mine is all kind of packed in there.

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We, we were, we had a, we had a couple of

couple, a couple of false starts there.

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And, uh, But, uh, yeah, no, it's lovely.

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There's sort of an act one and an act two.

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The older two are good pals and

the younger two are good pals.

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So yeah,

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Marc Preston: my, my, my

oldest two get along famously.

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The youngest one is just, she is,

she is a, uh, she is a man out.

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She does her thing.

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That's the best way to put it

in, but you're in LA right now.

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Correct.

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That's where you live in.

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Yep.

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Okay.

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Yep.

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In Los Angeles.

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Yep.

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I also saw, and I, this was not a

deep dive in your resume, but I did

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see, uh, my kids loved watching 24.

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I cannot for the life of me, why

I can't lock in and remember.

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What you did on 24,

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Chris Diamantopoulos: I was

the chief of staff to, uh,

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Cherry Jones's, uh, president.

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It was, it was in the last season of 24.

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And I, uh, I mean, I was, uh,

instrumental in trying to basically

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trying to bring it all down.

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I was a pretty, pretty hateful guy.

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Fun.

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That was a lot of fun to do.

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Actually

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Marc Preston: seemed like a fun show to

shoot, you know, because we had a ball.

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So as far as what you're doing right

now, uh, what's kind of the mix kind of

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compared to on camera, uh, film and TV

to VO stuff you're doing for animation.

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Or do you, do you all, by the

way, do you also do video games?

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Have you found yourself in that realm?

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Chris Diamantopoulos: Yeah, I

just did a star Wars video game.

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Uh, I, I do a little of everything.

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I, I, you know, Broadway and, uh,

you know, um, feature films and

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television and streaming and animation

and commercials and endorsement and

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promos and the whole nine yards.

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If.

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If I can add value and I have time,

then I'll find a way to do it.

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Um, yeah, I agree with looking at it.

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Marc Preston: Yeah.

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Chris Diamantopoulos: Yeah.

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Yeah, no, truly.

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And, and, and it's, uh, it's just a matter

of, uh, it's really sort of what's out

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there and it all sort of shifts, you

know, sometimes it's very animation heavy.

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Sometimes, uh, it's, you know,

time is more spent doing work

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as a series regular on a show.

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Sometimes it all sort of.

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Takes a beat and there's not much

happening and it's time to sort of

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reflect on what I really want to be doing.

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I mean, I think in all facets

of life control is an illusion.

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So the notion that I can control

what comes to me in this chaotic

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and amorphous business is

that's a very special illusion.

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So I try to just not take

myself too seriously and I try

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to allow myself to be open.

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Um, And, uh, you know,

oftentimes, you know, the sticky

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is a really great example.

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When I first saw the script,

I thought it was great, but

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there was nothing in it for me.

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The character that I ended up playing

was written just slightly differently, a

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little older, and I didn't see him as me.

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When I read a second draft, I thought,

Oh, You know, this is interesting.

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I want to be a part of this world and

maybe there's a world where that character

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adapts a little bit and I could play him.

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But then I realized they didn't,

they weren't interested in seeing

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me because they had, they had an

idea that was completely different.

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And so it took like a year and a

half for me to finally say, Hey, you

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guys really need to meet me on this.

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All right, we'll meet you.

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We'll meet you.

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And, and they met me and we

all sort of clicked and it was

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like, Oh my gosh, this is right.

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Blumhouse,

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Marc Preston: this, this is

more of the horror genre.

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Am I right?

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I'm looking at Blumhouse.

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Chris Diamantopoulos: Yeah.

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So Blumhouse, uh, definitely made their

name in the horror genre, but they, you

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know, they go from horror into intriguing

into dramatic and, you know, they, they've

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got, they've, I think, look, Blumhouse is

a, is a fascinating and innovative studio

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and it's Blumhouse through Jamie Lee

Curtis, um, which, which is also just this

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extra beautiful little spice on this show.

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Not only is she in the show and she's

terrific, but as a producer and as a voice

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on the show, um, she was instrumental

in making sure that the vibe of this

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world that we haven't seen before this

criminal underbelly in Northern Canada,

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this notion of maple syrup, these ne'er

do wells, these buffoons, this insanity,

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that it all sort of comes together.

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And I think there's something really

special about a show like this in

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a 30 minute format in six episodes.

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It gives us everything we want

without feeling like we have to commit

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to something that's just going to

take weeks and weeks and weeks to

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Marc Preston: watch.

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Did you tap into your Canadian

roots with a little bit of

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Canadian dialect as a character?

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Chris Diamantopoulos: No, no, no.

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If you see the show, you'll realize I'm

actually playing an American on the show.

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Uh, so yeah, not playing

a Canadian on the show.

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Um, I play a low level.

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mobster esque guy.

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Who's, you know, uh, finds himself in

the, from the Boston area, up in Northern

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Canada, collecting, uh, you know,

the, uh, milk money for his employer.

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And, um, Margo Martindale plays

a local maple syrup farmer.

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And we realize in the show and from

this show that in, in fact, in reality,

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there is an association, a maple syrup

association that controls the global

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Supply and demand of maple syrup,

and they store these giant vats and

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giant oil drums of maple syrup that

are priced at thousands of dollars

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a drum, uh, in, in this, in these

warehouses that are largely unguarded.

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And so, uh, through desperation,

greed, and, you know, just a general

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feeling of larceny, our characters

get involved in the scheme to steal.

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Millions and millions of

dollars worth of maple syrup

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and sell it on the black Marcet.

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Marc Preston: You mentioned

something that they come up with

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a Blumhouse, like different ideas.

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And yeah, that's, I like being pleasantly

surprised by something like that.

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I haven't seen something like this before.

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That's always fun.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That'll be, it'll be fun.

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You, I think you'll enjoy it.

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As far as, uh, the Greek heritage, which

of course, me being a Jewish kid from

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Texas, for whatever reason, in my family,

uh, for everybody's birthdays and events,

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we always went to Greek restaurants.

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So.

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Great.

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When I think of my comfort food

as a kid, it's always Greek food.

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I love that.

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I love that.

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I think,

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Chris Diamantopoulos: I think the

Greeks by and large would feel

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happy to hear that statement because

the Greeks all over the world

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Marc Preston: just want to

feed people pure comfort.

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And I remember the guys that, uh, and

Dallas's Costas cafe, the brothers,

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uh, there was a guy Zissy and they

owned it, but it's all one big family.

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So every Greek restaurant in the Dallas

area in one way or another, they're

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all related from what I understand.

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Yeah.

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Now are your folks, uh, kind of

first generation in Canada or?

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I spoke, I spoke Greek

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Chris Diamantopoulos: in the house.

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It's my first language.

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Um, my mother and father emigrated

from Athens in the, uh, early:

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My dad, uh, went to Toronto, Canada

to, um, to, uh, study business

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and get his master's in business.

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Um, and my folks were sticklers

for us learning proper.

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grammatically accurate Greek,

both modern and ancient, actually.

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It was very, very important to them

that we, um, identified culturally as

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Greek, as well as embrace, you know,

living in Canada and being Canadian.

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Um, and it was, I think, by virtue

of speaking Greek first, that my ear,

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um, Was given the opportunity to train

itself to recognizing different sounds,

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different timbres, different textures.

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And I think that's sort of where

my mimicry and my understanding of

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tone and pitch and voice came from.

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Uh, manipulation really sort of began.

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Marc Preston: I don't know any Greek

at all, except for what's on the menu.

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It was always great hearing the guys talk

to one another, you know, it always felt

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like, uh, even if they were arguing, it

always felt, that's just the way it hit

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my ear, you know, but I got it, but I

got to know, I ended up talking food at

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least once or twice, but I got to know.

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Did you inherit the recipes

and the cooking vibe, or,

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you know, Oh, my, my parents

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are both great cooks.

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Now we weren't in the restaurant business.

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My dad actually ran a Greek radio station.

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He advertised for all the local

companies and he did a radio show.

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Beautiful voice, Malifluous voice.

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Um, it's really where I, I probably

got a lot of my, my vocal talent from.

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Um, but my mother and father are great

cooks, very simple, what they call spitiko

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fajito, which means, uh, like home cooked

stuff, nothing fancy, but, uh, Oh, yeah.

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Everything delicious.

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I mean, look, simple hand cut French

fries and olive oil, a little bit of

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oregano and thick, uh, coarse sea salt,

um, lamb chops with just a squeeze

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of lemon, uh, coarse black pepper.

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Um, a perfect, uh, horiyaki salata, the

village salad, which is just, you know,

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vine ripe tomatoes, a nice healthy dose of

olive oil, um, uh, cucumbers, big kalamata

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olives, feta cheese, uh, red onion.

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Marc Preston: Fantastic.

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They talked about the Mediterranean

diet as being really good for you.

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But I used to, uh, I still, I,

I'm trying to pick it back up down

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here, but grew all of my own herbs.

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That's one thing.

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I got that from Greek cooking.

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Cause there's always freshers.

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And that's really the kind

of thing that set it off.

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And my favorite, one

of my favorite things,

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Chris Diamantopoulos: Avogadro Lemona.

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That means it's, it's a, it's an, it's

an egg lemon basically where they beat

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The egg white, the lemon is delicious.

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We would have that when we were sick.

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It was the kind of thing that would,

you know, nurse you back to health.

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It's sort of the Greek,

you know, chicken soup.

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Marc Preston: What about

your wife's heritage?

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Is she by any chance Greek as well?

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Chris Diamantopoulos: Well, she is

now, but she was, she was born and

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raised in Guilford, Connecticut.

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We met, um, 22 years ago.

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Um, Uh, she, uh, she's a polyglot.

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She studied, uh, European history

at Penn and she, so she speaks

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fluent Spanish and fluent German.

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Uh, and she took a course of, uh,

modern Greek at Columbia while we were

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dating and now she speaks fluent Greek.

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Really?

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Um, Yeah, I married up Marc . Um, uh, she

is, um, she converted to Greek Orthodoxy

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when we got married, and so we could

raise our kids in, in the faith as well.

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And, um, but she's, no, she's

as American as Apple pie.

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Becky Newton, you know, she's on a

show right now called the Lincoln

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Lawyer, and she's about as good as

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Marc Preston: someone

can be on television.

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That's one of the shows that's

on the list, you know, there's

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so much stuff out there now.

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I got my little list of things

I, uh, that I, that I wanna see.

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Sure.

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And it's, it is definitely one of them.

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And, uh, I think, yeah, my kids

always loved going in new Orleans,

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uh, the, every year they'd have the

Greek food festival at the church.

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And my daughter, uh, loved the,

the ice cream and the, uh, uh, the,

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with the baklava, you know, they

kind of, so you can tell I haven't

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had anything to eat today yet.

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So, you know, you're killing me

over here, but, um, all right.

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So, so when did the acting thing, when did

all the creative stuff kick off for you?

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Was that kind of in high school, was

that all on already on the agenda

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or did that come a little later?

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Yeah.

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No, Marc,

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Chris Diamantopoulos: I started acting.

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I've been acting for 40

years professionally.

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I started acting when

I was nine years old.

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Uh, I displayed, uh, an affinity

and a proficiency with regard

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to performance and entertaining.

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And so my parents, uh, despite their

lack of knowledge of within the field

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decided that, you know, they should

try and help nurture that talent.

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So they signed me up for a

kid's acting class on weekends

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and an agent found me there.

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And I started doing some, uh,

television work in Toronto.

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And, uh, shortly thereafter, I, uh,

really started getting involved in

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music and singing and stage performing.

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Um, and so I started, um, auditioning

for professional productions in Toronto

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and then quickly started doing some

big national tours in the States.

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And I landed on Broadway, uh,

worked on Broadway for several

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years and I met my wife, uh, while

I was working on Broadway, but.

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She was not working on Broadway.

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We met on the subway in

the middle of rush hour.

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Really?

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And then, um, Well, when you met on the

subway, did you both know what each other

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Marc Preston: did or was it

just, you had no clue about what,

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Chris Diamantopoulos: Oh, we were kids.

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I was, I was 25.

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She was 21 straight out of college.

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And we just started chatting and, uh,

And, and then we ended up moving to Los

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Angeles together and pursuing this career.

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Marc Preston: That is awesome.

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It's very symbiotic.

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You know, that thing where she, you know,

y'all both could do your thing together.

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That's, that's really wonderful.

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I mean, the fact that especially you

being able to work at home and she,

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she understands your workflow and if

you've had a not great day, you know,

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creatively or so, you know, so it's

probably like a lot of unspoken stuff.

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You can kind of read each other as

creatives, you know, are your, any

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of your kids kind of aiming in this

direction you think, uh, or are

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they like, no, It's hard to tell.

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You know, they

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Chris Diamantopoulos: definitely, uh,

the great thing about kids is every day

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they discover something new and then

they allow you to discover something new

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about them, particularly at these ages.

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Um, they're showing, uh, uh, desire

and skill in so many different facets.

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So it's, it's hard to tell.

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It's really hard to say.

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I think, you know, Becky and I

will sort of nurture whatever

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direction they end up going.

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Um, you know, we have both of us having

been in this business as long as we have

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been, have a healthy understanding of

how challenging this can be, but you

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know, every business has its challenges.

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Every endeavor has its challenges.

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So as long as their heart's in it for the

right reasons and, uh, they, you know,

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They go into it with, with a clear mind.

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I'm,

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Marc Preston: I'm open to it.

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A lot of luck in that your folks

were at the outset, very, uh, they're

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encouraging out of the gate, you know,

a lot of, you know, a lot of folks have

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parents like, why are you doing this?

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You know, very rare, very

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Chris Diamantopoulos: rare

for Greek immigrants to, to,

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to feel that way as well.

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They, you know, they would have wanted

me to be a doctor or a lawyer or an

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accountant, but they were, uh, to their

credit, they were very, very, um, uh,

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Marc Preston: They were very

open, which was terrific.

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So how did you make that

segue on stage to on camera?

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Was that something that was

a seamless thing or was, was

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that kind of your North star?

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Was that ultimately where you were wanting

to go or just kind of ended up that way?

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Chris Diamantopoulos: So I always

knew, uh, that I wanted I knew I

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wanted to perform and entertain.

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I mean, when I was a kid, I

wanted to be a movie star.

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I didn't know what that meant.

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I just watched movies and I

knew how they made me feel.

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I'd go to the movies with my

father and I felt something.

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You know, when you watch TV at home,

it's just kind of, but when you go to

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the movie, there's something special.

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We're all in that room.

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It goes dark and it's, it's loud and,

and you're in the world and you're

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in the story and then you, the movie

finishes and, and it's just There's so

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much to talk about and how you felt.

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And, and then for weeks I'm

play acting at what I saw.

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And I'm now that person.

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And that experience is just,

that's, that's a holy experience.

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Marc Preston: Well, that, well, at

that age, no, when you were young and

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when you were, you were, your juices

were flowing, what were you watching?

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What were the things that were like

grabbing you actors or films or directors?

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Yeah, I was.

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Chris Diamantopoulos: Greatly

inspired by the works of Danny

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Kaye, the court jester, the secret

life of Walter Mitty, five pennies.

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I love Darryl Flynn, uh, the

adventures of Robin Hood.

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Uh, obviously, you know,

anything Harrison Ford did.

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I remember seeing, uh, Roger Moore

and Moonraker and thinking, wow,

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I want to, I want to do that.

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Um, but then I remember my father

coming home with a, a beta.

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Uh, tape of Amadeus and he said, you

know, this isn't really a kid's movie

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and he left it there and the next

night my brother and I watched Amadeus

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and I remember just thinking that F.

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Marie Abraham's performance was

marvelous, One of the greatest, most

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terrifying things I'd ever seen.

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So my inspirations were as varied as

the roles that I've ended up playing.

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It's why I've never,

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Marc Preston: Abraham was the

first to kind of get you feeling

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something like it, like there was

a, there was a visceral reaction.

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Chris Diamantopoulos: I mean, it

was certainly from a, from a, uh,

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massively dramatic standpoint.

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Uh, sure.

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But there, I mean, the inspirations

came from so many different

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places and so many odd places.

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I mean, one of my biggest

influences were the three stooges.

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Their level of humor, their

level of timing and commitment

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to the bit, it was fantastic.

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Marc Preston: Um, well, that's a

full arc of experience for you.

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I mean, did you have to chase

that role to be, you know, uh,

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mo, uh, did you, did you chase it?

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Or did they look at you going,

you're the guy, you're the guy.

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What do you think, Marc?

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You think I walked in and they

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Chris Diamantopoulos: looked

at me and said, you're the guy.

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I think you're talented enough.

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They might've been, took me about,

took me about six months and about 14

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auditions, a lot of begging and pleading.

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And there was, there was really,

there was no way that that was going

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to happen, but, but somehow it did.

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I was an unknown actor at that point.

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The biggest thing I'd ever done was 24.

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And I certainly wasn't the lead of 24.

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I'd never done anything comedic.

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Uh, Although I knew that I was, you know,

I could, I could work as a comedy actor.

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It just hadn't happened at that point.

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So it was a big leap of faith on

the fairly brother's part, huge

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leap of faith on the studio part.

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That was when Tom Rothman was running Fox.

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Uh, and it was a confluence of my

strange history with the Stooges,

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my, um, encyclopedic knowledge of

their Uh, shorts and, um, and then my

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lack of guile and naivete to believe

that they would allow me to pull a

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face and morph to play this role.

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And it just, it ended up being me.

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It ended up happening and two

other actors were offered the role.

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They fell out one of them because

he couldn't do the, the impression

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of Mo and the other one, because

he wanted too much money.

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Marc Preston: I got to say, I remember

growing up, like you said, the

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shorts, the ones that were just kind

of in and out is just a few minutes.

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I like that.

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I thought there was something

kind of cool about that.

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But I remember this kind of the rhythm,

the physicality, the physicality.

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Really?

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And you nailed it.

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I mean, that was just like

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Chris Diamantopoulos: that.

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Thanks.

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No, I mean, the thing about the Stooges

that was fascinating was that they, they

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perfected their craft on the vaudeville

circuit and the borscht belt too.

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You know, I mean, they, they did

live performances for years and years

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and years and years and years before

they ever put anything on celluloid.

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So the daunting task for, for me.

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Us, but when we made the movie was

we had five days of prep, there

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was no, there was no rehearsal.

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There was no, Oh yeah, it was, it

was, we were shot out of a cannon.

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And so, um, I, again, through my

own naivete, not knowing that this

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is what I wasn't supposed to do.

631

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I just, uh, uh, uh, uh, took the

bull by the horns and, and, and,

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and Sean and will, and I would meet.

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The morning before a shoot and talk

about what we might do in a physical

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standpoint to supplement what it

says in the script, the Stooges

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fight, you know, what does that mean?

636

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What does that look like?

637

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And so we would create these bits

and then show up on set ready to go.

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:

It was really, it was, um, a reMarcable

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Marc Preston: experience.

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Uh, great actor.

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Good guy.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It was interesting

watching the physicality.

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Cause that's what I remember as a kid.

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I don't really remember

plot lines as much.

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I just remember the seeming absurdity,

but the heart in it, you know, but I

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know some people are really, really,

really into the three stooges.

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It was an inspiration, but to be able

to be in a movie that had to be a

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cool full, a full circle thing for you

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:

Chris Diamantopoulos: beyond.

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It really was.

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It was, it was on an earnest.

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Marc Preston: Uh, literal dream come true.

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You'd been on 24.

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So this is kind of like 180 degree

shift, but that's, did you kind of feel

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that was when the momentum just started

kind of picking up for you, do you

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think, did you use that kind of win?

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I don't

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Chris Diamantopoulos: think so.

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No.

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And you know, it was funny.

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It was hard to bill me after that.

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You know, my, I did a, you know,

it was a 50 million movie for

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Fox and I was the lead of it.

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I looked like Mo, I didn't look like this.

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And if you look at the posters

or any of the trailers or any of

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it, you just, it's not this guy.

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So how do they sell that?

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Right.

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So, uh, no, it wasn't necessarily the,

I mean, one thing that it did do was

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it caught the attention of someone at

Disney when they were looking to start

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a new show based on the original Walt

Disney Mickey mouse, where they wanted

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to go back to the root of what Mickey

sounded like, which was Walt himself.

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And, um, someone had seen me do.

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The Stooges and the Stooges

had that intrinsic thirties era

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cadence to it, just by virtue of

the ways that the Stooges talk.

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And so they wanted to bring

me in to voice Mickey.

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And, um, I was reticent at first because

I have a deeper voice and I, I, you

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don't mess with an icon like Mickey.

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By sheer luck, um, Tom Hanks had

been promoting his, uh, Finding Mr.

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Banks, uh, movie.

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And they had all of these, um, Walt Disney

documentaries on television at the time.

684

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And I watched.

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A particular documentary where it

showed Disney talking to a journalist

686

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and his voice was very similar to mine.

687

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Very, he had a, there was a base

to his voice, but where his voice

688

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resonated, um, aside from his

regionalism was, was similar.

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And I found that intriguing and so

I watched him as he talked and then

690

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the journalist asked him, would

you do it, Mr Disney, would you?

691

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Would you do a little of the voice?

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And he went, Oh boy.

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And he sort of, and I watched what

he did with his, with his body.

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I watched what he did with his face and

I saw what, what, where his larynx went.

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And I thought, Oh gosh,

maybe I can do that.

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And so, you know, uh, I went in and I

gave it, I gave it the old college try.

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And, uh, I mean, that really was, that

was a shift in my life that I would never

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have expected that, uh, that is really

just a beautiful blessing in my life.

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Uh, You know,

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Marc Preston: voicing Mickey

Mouse, you mentioned the

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thing about like the thirties.

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I always wondered as a VO guy, how

much of that was affected or how much

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:

of that's the way people spoke back

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Chris Diamantopoulos: then?

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Marc Preston: I've, you know, I can't

get it at a time machine and go hear it.

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They're kind of like, uh, those people,

they talk like, you know, the, the,

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that if there's that an, an affected

thing that they did, or if that was

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just part, it's a great question, right?

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I

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Chris Diamantopoulos: mean, it's all,

it's like, uh, how, how much of what

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:

they showed us of anything was affected,

you know, how many people spoke?

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Slept in twin beds and full

nighties and buttoned up pajamas.

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Do you know what I mean?

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Who knows what it was

really like back then?

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I did, I did, uh, the boys in the

boat with George Clooney last year.

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And, um, that was a thirties, uh,

period piece and threading that Needle.

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And I played a journalist actually,

uh, and a radio announcer and the

718

:

fellow who was announcing the races.

719

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So finding the right balance of what

would have been reasonable back then.

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And also what would work

cinematically for today.

721

:

That was fun.

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Finding that with George, you

know, how far do you want to go

723

:

into You know, the year was 1935.

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You know what I mean?

725

:

How far do you want to go into that, uh,

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:

Marc Preston: to, to thread

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Chris Diamantopoulos: that balance?

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:

Marc Preston: He directed it, correct?

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:

He did.

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Thank you for reminding me.

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Cause I wanted to ask you about that.

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That is a, it's a true story.

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Correct?

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It is.

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It's a beautiful, if you haven't

read the book, I would say

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Chris Diamantopoulos: that's, that's a,

that's, you should put that on your list.

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:

It's a beautifully written book.

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Okay.

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Read the book first before singing.

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I mean, it's not necessary,

it's not necessary, but it's

741

:

such an homage to America.

742

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It's such a, a love letter to what

this country really about to, to the.

743

:

The, um, the pain and struggle resulting

in an exaltation of the American spirit.

744

:

It's a, it's a really beautiful homage

to what it means to be American.

745

:

It's it's lovely.

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Marc Preston: It'd be nice if something

old was new again right now, you

747

:

know, bring, bring some of that vibe

back would be glorious right now.

748

:

So the, you know, so.

749

:

As you're progressing, were you thinking,

okay, I'm doing this, uh, you know,

750

:

you work at George Clooney and I hear,

you know, I love everything he does.

751

:

In fact, when I, when I coached

voiceover students, I always mentioned

752

:

thing I love about him is we talk about

brand and who you are, your signature.

753

:

We think of Danny Ocean, swab, Devin

air, modern day, Cary Grant, you

754

:

know, but the things he's really

notable for, he's a total dolt like

755

:

the Coen brothers movies, or when he

steps outside of being a handsome,

756

:

Charismatic dude, you know, absolutely.

757

:

That had been a great

758

:

Chris Diamantopoulos: experience.

759

:

Uh, it was reMarcable.

760

:

It was reMarcable watching him

work, listening to him, seeing how

761

:

confident he was with regard to having

already, uh, sort of seen how he

762

:

wants the story to unfold on screen.

763

:

It gave the actors a tremendous

sense of peace showing up on set,

764

:

knowing that he's got the reins.

765

:

Um, and just a lovely guy.

766

:

Marc Preston: How does he direct?

767

:

Cause I know like a Clint Eastwood's very,

as I say, kind of directs in the camera,

768

:

he's like, he gets a scene done moving on.

769

:

You know, what, what's

George Clooney as far as, I

770

:

Chris Diamantopoulos: mean,

771

:

Marc Preston: he's

772

:

Chris Diamantopoulos: very casual, uh,

uh, very much in favor of the actors.

773

:

Uh, you know, he loves actors

and he, he is an actor.

774

:

Um, I never felt like we were.

775

:

Chasing the clock like we

were in trouble for time.

776

:

It never felt like we were belaboring

something and doing multiple

777

:

takes when they were unnecessary.

778

:

You know, it also didn't feel like he

was doing prototypical wide medium close.

779

:

He knew how a scene was going

to play if the whole thing was

780

:

going to play in the close.

781

:

He would eschew the wide

and say, I don't need it.

782

:

I know I'm going to come right in here.

783

:

So there's a, there was something

really beautiful about that.

784

:

He, you know, he was really a mentor to

me during those several weeks in London.

785

:

Um, and I asked him a lot of just,

you know, business questions and

786

:

he was always ready with a story.

787

:

Um, but one of the things that stuck

with me, one of the things that

788

:

he said to me that I found very

profound and very liberating was

789

:

that when you're an actor and you're

auditioning, playing with house money.

790

:

The casino has given you 10, 000 and

they say, do with it what you will.

791

:

Now you may lose it, but

you're not losing anything.

792

:

They gave you the 10, 000, who cares?

793

:

You may turn it into 20 and you

could turn it into a million.

794

:

And that's what an audition is.

795

:

You've got nothing to lose.

796

:

So go for it.

797

:

And, and I, I thought that that

was very simple, but very profound.

798

:

And it's definitely indicative

of his casual, but you know,

799

:

Marc Preston: hardworking nature, right?

800

:

Yeah, I think that's the

hard thing to do as an actor.

801

:

And like I say, I work in voiceover folks

and I'm like, go in there, do your thing.

802

:

You don't know what they're looking for.

803

:

And it's a fool's errand to kind

of assume, you know, but you do,

804

:

you try to get down in the middle,

but did you audition for George

805

:

or is it like, okay, it was just

kind of like, okay, you're the guy.

806

:

I That that works.

807

:

No,

808

:

Chris Diamantopoulos: Marc.

809

:

I, I love, I love the notion that

you think that it ever happens

810

:

where someone says, you're

the guy, you know, I, I'm sure

811

:

Marc Preston: that a lot of actors,

812

:

Chris Diamantopoulos: I think you

were, I think you were that talented.

813

:

I've seen you do your thing and I saw

he is like, I know he can do that thing.

814

:

I want him, you know, I don't think

it's ever happened for me in life

815

:

that someone went, you're the guy.

816

:

No, I, I made a tape actually in

this studio, um, for that role.

817

:

And look to his credit,

uh, he watched the tape.

818

:

And then he gave me the role.

819

:

Uh, there wasn't anything

fussy about George.

820

:

A lot of directors will see a tape and

then decide that they want to meet with

821

:

you or meet with you on zoom or read

again or give you notes for George.

822

:

I think I would venture to say that

every aspect of his life is this way.

823

:

He's decisive.

824

:

That's the guy.

825

:

Call him, tell him he got the

826

:

Marc Preston: part.

827

:

Now is his directing style verbose

giving you lots of exp explanations

828

:

or is he very pithy with just a

few words just to get you there?

829

:

It's interesting, I found him,

830

:

Chris Diamantopoulos: um, you mentioned

the word chameleon early on in this, in,

831

:

in this interview, and I think George

is a chameleon in some ways as well.

832

:

And his directorial style I think has

a chameleonic essence to it because

833

:

there would be some big boisterous

scenes where there are hundreds and

834

:

hundreds of extras outside and he

would use his megaphone and use humor.

835

:

to motivate and direct.

836

:

And then there were some really intimate

sequences where he would ask the crew to

837

:

be politely, pleasantly, almost not even

have to, but the crew would recognize

838

:

that they would need to sort of bring

it all down as they were setting up.

839

:

And he would sort of come

quietly next to the actor.

840

:

And I remember them doing this with me and

sitting and sort of sitting with me you

841

:

know, just like What do you think, Chris?

842

:

You want to, you want to sort of just like

jump into it or, you know, just very like

843

:

a paternal, like, take your time, pal.

844

:

We, we can do this any way you want, like

almost an arm around the shoulder and,

845

:

and I believe in you sort of thing that

just, it just took all insecurity and

846

:

evaporated and just allowed me to just be.

847

:

I joked with my wife, I was

like, she's like, how was it?

848

:

I was like, I just wanted him to, to put

his arm around me and say, I got your son.

849

:

Just, just a really, really look, man.

850

:

You know, they say,

don't meet your heroes.

851

:

Well, if you're heroes, George

Clooney, meet him because he's

852

:

not going to let you down.

853

:

Marc Preston: I can imagine being

in a room with him and Brad Pitt.

854

:

I think that, I don't

think you can go in there.

855

:

There's too much charisma.

856

:

Oh, it's insane.

857

:

Chris Diamantopoulos: Yeah, no.

858

:

And, and, and they also,

I haven't met Brad, but.

859

:

They seem like good dudes too.

860

:

That's the other part.

861

:

So there's all that charisma.

862

:

There's all that handsomeness.

863

:

There's all the talent experience.

864

:

And, but, but then add to that, that

they, they seem like good natured fellows.

865

:

Yeah, it would be, uh, it'd be too much,

866

:

Marc Preston: too much for a mere, well,

I think you Hold your own very well and

867

:

the stuff I've seen you without a doubt.

868

:

I mean, I mean you and in the red notice

Are in red notice without you that the

869

:

scene would have been as electric, you

know Cuz you've got Ryan Reynolds who's

870

:

I mean, he's an okay looking guy, I guess

and You've got the physicality of Dwayne

871

:

Johnson, but it without you it didn't

really have that tension, you know And

872

:

it's I love watching people Who don't

have dialogue, but you'd love watch it.

873

:

You just like, okay, you kind of lean in.

874

:

Okay, what's going to happen?

875

:

And that's, I think they did a really

wonderful thing shooting you from

876

:

behind without even showing your

face for a good moment to moment.

877

:

It's like, okay, what's going on?

878

:

And it kind of built up the tension.

879

:

So I'm glad you enjoyed it, man.

880

:

I really appreciate it.

881

:

I love making that now.

882

:

You talk about George Clooney talked

about on the, on the menu of guys

883

:

and gals you'd like to work with.

884

:

Is there, is, is there a director, is

there a type of film, a type of project

885

:

that's been itching and you know,

like, okay, this is where I need to

886

:

add this to the recipe of my career.

887

:

That's a great question.

888

:

I mean, look, I

889

:

Chris Diamantopoulos: love all

of Paul Thomas Anderson's films.

890

:

So, uh, a chance to work with

Paul Thomas Anderson would be a

891

:

real, um, a real dream come true.

892

:

You know who his dad is, right?

893

:

I know who his dad is.

894

:

Yeah.

895

:

Yeah.

896

:

I know his dad.

897

:

And I know his wife is, you know, I've

worked with his wife on a few projects.

898

:

Uh, Maya and I have done

a few things together.

899

:

No, I know all about him.

900

:

I've been a, you know, uh, uh, a

distant student of his, if you will.

901

:

You know what I mean?

902

:

Um,

903

:

Marc Preston: His dad has

the greatest outtake reel.

904

:

It's 11 minutes of, uh, Yes.

905

:

Chris Diamantopoulos: Yes.

906

:

I know what you're

907

:

Marc Preston: talking about.

908

:

Actually.

909

:

I, I, I have seen this.

910

:

Yeah.

911

:

Well, I remember hearing it.

912

:

My voice of record back

in:

913

:

He said, uh, just go listen

to this as 11 minutes.

914

:

He was the voice of, uh,

some different TV stations.

915

:

Just the video he did when he was

the voice of America's funniest

916

:

home and ABC, uh, he, he used

the Sennheiser four 16 because he

917

:

wanted to sit in the booth with.

918

:

And this, the, the, the, the banter,

it's like anybody who does voice

919

:

or any kind of creative thing.

920

:

I remember hearing a story that one time

for Paul, uh, Paul Thomas Sanders for

921

:

this, I think he had other kids, um, for

Christmas, he wanted them to have snow.

922

:

Cause he was, I would think originally

from Cleveland or something and

923

:

being in Hollywood, he actually

paid to have snow machines brought

924

:

an overnight cranking out snow.

925

:

So the kids woke up Christmas morning,

they had snow on their front yard,

926

:

courtesy of a movie studio snow machine.

927

:

That's pretty cool.

928

:

That's lore.

929

:

That's pretty cool.

930

:

That's Yeah.

931

:

I like that.

932

:

I like that a lot.

933

:

Besides Paul Thomas Anderson,

who else is kind of on your

934

:

Mount Rushmore, if you will?

935

:

Chris Diamantopoulos: You know, did

you watch, um, did you watch Shogun?

936

:

It was really, really beautifully done.

937

:

And um, there's a director that

won the Emmy this year for his work

938

:

on that show called Frederick E.

939

:

O.

940

:

Toy.

941

:

And he and I have actually worked

together before on a couple of

942

:

things, but he's the kind of guy that

I love on a TV set as a director.

943

:

Um, this is a guy with a

specific vision and such a.

944

:

Um, calm and quiet.

945

:

Way of leading with that vision.

946

:

Um, it's guys like that, that

I, that I want to work with.

947

:

There's a show, uh, if you watch the

show, slow horses with Gary Oldman

948

:

Marc Preston: recently,

that's an Apple TV show.

949

:

You know, it's one of

those, you know, yes or no.

950

:

I started watching and I

was working on the computer.

951

:

I was sitting on my sofa and

I was like, this is one of the

952

:

shows I need to pay attention to.

953

:

Totally.

954

:

I can't like half pay attention.

955

:

Yeah.

956

:

Chris Diamantopoulos: Yeah.

957

:

You got to pay attention.

958

:

You got to pay attention

to that one for sure.

959

:

But it's, it's a brilliant show

and that's the kind of material

960

:

that I would absolutely love

961

:

Marc Preston: to, You talk

about George Clooney directing,

962

:

but what about you directing?

963

:

Have you thought about, okay, this, this

is a muscle I haven't flexed yet that I

964

:

want to try it out and see how it works.

965

:

Chris Diamantopoulos:

Yeah, I have definitely.

966

:

And Stooges was sort of the first

time that that came onto my radar.

967

:

Um, my involvement in that movie was

much more than just acting as Moe.

968

:

Um, because of my Knowledge of the

Stooges in my understanding intrinsically

969

:

of what the task was, um, I got my

first taste of what it might be like

970

:

if I were to, uh, direct something

that I, that I really believed in.

971

:

And I think that's really

what it's going to take.

972

:

I think it's going to, I'm going to need

to find a story that I think is the most

973

:

compelling story that needs to be told.

974

:

And then I'm going to have to tell

it, um, you, you, you had your wife.

975

:

Is she right at all?

976

:

We both do.

977

:

Yeah, we both, we both right.

978

:

And, and it's one of those things where.

979

:

We're not in any rush, you know, we're

still so, uh, beautifully motivated

980

:

by the work that comes to us by

virtue of other, you know, gifted

981

:

screenwriters and producers that

were happy doing that work right now.

982

:

And I feel like in every aspect of my

life, like when I transitioned from the

983

:

theater into television and then when

film found me and then when animation

984

:

found me, it was all rather organic.

985

:

So I feel like, um, the next step,

uh, with directing will, will

986

:

probably also follow in that path.

987

:

Marc Preston: Cause it sounds

like you're kind of been more.

988

:

Surfing kind of taking it as is the wave

moves and you can't, you kind of have

989

:

done a reMarcably wonderful job writing

it because I didn't realize how deep your

990

:

resume was and the diversity of stuff.

991

:

And you can't, you know, you

gotta be one hell of a talented

992

:

guy to, to, to ride that wave.

993

:

So good on you, my friend.

994

:

Now, as we kind of wrap up here,

I throw my, Seven questions out,

995

:

always a little bit extra fun.

996

:

First one, one of my favorite, I'm a food

nerd and we discussed it, but I got to

997

:

know what is your favorite comfort food?

998

:

Being a Greek guy.

999

:

Chris Diamantopoulos: Yeah,

it might surprise you.

:

00:41:54,170 --> 00:41:59,840

My favorite comfort food is a

two inch thick bone in ribeye.

:

00:42:00,105 --> 00:42:01,725

A grass fed bone in ribeye.

:

00:42:01,725 --> 00:42:03,645

Yeah, I would reverse sear it.

:

00:42:03,655 --> 00:42:10,835

I'd probably, I'd put it in, in a small

oven for at maybe 300 for eight minutes

:

00:42:10,905 --> 00:42:18,415

and then, uh, iron skillet, big pad of

raw butter, uh, and just sear a minute,

:

00:42:18,515 --> 00:42:23,210

minute, And then maybe 30 seconds, 30

seconds, rosemary on top or something.

:

00:42:23,450 --> 00:42:23,700

Yeah.

:

00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:25,160

Depending on how I'm going to do it.

:

00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:25,390

Right.

:

00:42:25,390 --> 00:42:28,590

It's not, I'm not sure if I would, but

the actual comfort food would be just

:

00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,790

that if I was going to have it with

some of my hand cut fries, then I might.

:

00:42:33,145 --> 00:42:36,825

Do rosemary might actually do a little

oregano to take it into the Greek place.

:

00:42:37,215 --> 00:42:40,105

If I was going to eat it later,

I would slice it up, squeeze some

:

00:42:40,105 --> 00:42:43,705

lemon, a drizzle of olive oil,

and that gives it a different sort

:

00:42:43,705 --> 00:42:46,655

of a vibe, but that's, yeah, that

would be my comfort food for sure.

:

00:42:46,825 --> 00:42:48,995

Marc Preston: I have to ask you,

you're Greek, you know, your food,

:

00:42:49,045 --> 00:42:52,635

you, you come from a place of a

family that knows up from down.

:

00:42:52,635 --> 00:42:54,985

I got to know what are

your feeling on Dolmas?

:

00:42:54,985 --> 00:42:58,775

Cause when I, when I grew up,

they were the big warm, you

:

00:42:58,775 --> 00:43:00,205

know, they're just delicious.

:

00:43:00,205 --> 00:43:04,260

But when I moved to new Orleans, uh,

whereas For about 20 years, they had

:

00:43:04,260 --> 00:43:06,850

the small little oily ones, you know,

the little tiny little oily ones.

:

00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:07,480

Yeah.

:

00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,610

I like, what is your preference?

:

00:43:09,610 --> 00:43:11,310

What is considered authentic?

:

00:43:11,885 --> 00:43:15,815

Chris Diamantopoulos: I mean, look,

do del change the size and whether

:

00:43:15,815 --> 00:43:20,765

they're served cold or served warm

room temp based on the region, right?

:

00:43:20,765 --> 00:43:24,965

So in the north where my mother's

family is from, they tend to be

:

00:43:24,965 --> 00:43:26,495

more in the way that you like them.

:

00:43:26,795 --> 00:43:30,515

Um, I was never the biggest Dolma fan.

:

00:43:30,755 --> 00:43:34,265

I think when I was a kid, the idea of the

stuffed grape leaf was just not my thing.

:

00:43:34,445 --> 00:43:35,675

, I like the stuffed peppers.

:

00:43:35,675 --> 00:43:39,695

They're called, um, yata, where where

you take a pepper, you hollow it out.

:

00:43:40,625 --> 00:43:45,405

And you put the rice and the really,

Oh yeah, you have to have that next

:

00:43:45,445 --> 00:43:48,945

time you go to a Greek restaurant,

you ask them for yemi stuff, stuffed

:

00:43:48,945 --> 00:43:49,345

Marc Preston: peppers.

:

00:43:49,345 --> 00:43:50,105

They're delicious.

:

00:43:50,175 --> 00:43:51,255

That in Indian food.

:

00:43:51,255 --> 00:43:54,625

I've never mastered the seasoning ratios.

:

00:43:54,625 --> 00:43:57,985

I, it's one of the few foods I really

have to look at a recipe to get it.

:

00:43:57,995 --> 00:44:00,635

You know, it's just, but it's the

grandmothers that make it a little

:

00:44:00,635 --> 00:44:03,165

this, a little of that, you know,

but I haven't quite mastered that.

:

00:44:03,215 --> 00:44:03,555

Chris Diamantopoulos: Yeah.

:

00:44:03,555 --> 00:44:03,895

I think.

:

00:44:03,895 --> 00:44:04,034

Yeah.

:

00:44:04,075 --> 00:44:07,435

I think for you to enjoy it best,

you go to a restaurant, Marc.

:

00:44:07,435 --> 00:44:08,305

I don't, I don't want you cooking.

:

00:44:10,085 --> 00:44:10,455

I do.

:

00:44:10,455 --> 00:44:13,835

Like I tell you, you're not giving

me the confidence of someone that's

:

00:44:13,835 --> 00:44:15,315

going to deliver an authentic,

:

00:44:16,035 --> 00:44:18,745

Marc Preston: I will say

all mastered lamb bar none.

:

00:44:19,095 --> 00:44:21,445

Um, now the next question I got

for you, uh, three people, let's

:

00:44:21,445 --> 00:44:24,015

say you're going to sit down with,

you have a few hours, talk story.

:

00:44:24,155 --> 00:44:25,055

Living or not.

:

00:44:25,055 --> 00:44:25,965

Who are those three people be?

:

00:44:25,965 --> 00:44:32,005

You would love to sit down with

Marcus Aurelius, Frank Sinatra.

:

00:44:32,535 --> 00:44:34,670

And, um, And Jesus Christ.

:

00:44:34,670 --> 00:44:35,030

Very cool.

:

00:44:35,130 --> 00:44:36,590

Jesus has come up a few times.

:

00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:37,590

Uh, never Sinatra.

:

00:44:37,620 --> 00:44:42,029

Uh, Marcus Aurelius actually I was

watching, um, Paul Giamatti and, uh, in

:

00:44:42,030 --> 00:44:45,110

the film he was in, he played a college

professor, came out last couple of years.

:

00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:45,750

Yeah.

:

00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:45,830

Yeah.

:

00:44:45,860 --> 00:44:50,580

And he talked about, uh, uh, the book

meditations and love all the quotes.

:

00:44:50,580 --> 00:44:52,800

I actually just ordered the

book sitting on my nightstand.

:

00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:53,560

I need to read that.

:

00:44:53,620 --> 00:44:55,360

Chris Diamantopoulos: And you know, it's

funny, it's sitting on your nightstand,

:

00:44:55,370 --> 00:44:57,260

but that's what it was intended to be.

:

00:44:57,260 --> 00:44:58,720

You know, it was never meant to be a book.

:

00:44:58,790 --> 00:45:00,880

That was Marcus Aurelius.

:

00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:00,899

Jesus.

:

00:45:00,970 --> 00:45:02,690

Night stand journal.

:

00:45:02,930 --> 00:45:04,820

He wrote his ideas and thoughts.

:

00:45:04,820 --> 00:45:07,440

It was literally a got to

get apples tomorrow morning.

:

00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:09,950

Remember not to be rude to the shopkeeper.

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You know, it was like

little things to himself.

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Now they get more involved as you go

through and you realize this is the,

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this is a brilliant mind at work.

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This is a mind that That really, you

know, had something to say, but he

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never did you have a quote that sticks

out in your mind that is sort of a,

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00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:28,360

uh, resonates that you hold on to.

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Um, well, I mean, it's, it's, you

know, I'm, I'm diverging from it and,

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and, you know, Churchill certainly

used a version of it as well, but

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the obstacle is the way, right.

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You know what I mean?

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Whatever the obstruction is actually

ends up being, ends up being the way that

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that's, that's the very definition of,

of, uh, for me of being an actor, right.

:

00:45:45,210 --> 00:45:46,600

It's like, here's this thing.

:

00:45:46,610 --> 00:45:48,090

Oh no, this isn't going to happen.

:

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Or they, they need this

and you can't do that.

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Yeah.

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All right, well, it's, it's really,

it's, you know, it's the art of living a

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00:45:54,450 --> 00:45:58,090

judo lifestyle where you take the thing

that's not working and you just sort of

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Marc Preston: make it not only

use the energy to your advantage.

:

00:46:00,410 --> 00:46:00,530

Yeah.

:

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My grandfather always, that

was his nickname for me.

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Marcus really.

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So I've always been kind of

aware of quotes over the years

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since I was a little kid,

:

00:46:07,500 --> 00:46:08,360

Chris Diamantopoulos: philosophically

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Marc Preston: inclined.

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That's what I try to be.

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But as a kid, next question, who

was your first celebrity crush?

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Chris Diamantopoulos: Alyssa Milano.

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I think that sounds about right.

:

00:46:16,695 --> 00:46:17,595

She was on who's the boss.

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00:46:17,815 --> 00:46:18,855

She was Samantha.

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She was the cutest thing I'd ever seen.

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Yeah.

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She was maybe a year older than me.

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Maybe a little more.

:

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I don't know.

:

00:46:24,085 --> 00:46:27,965

I don't know exactly, but I remember,

uh, so she would be my first crush,

:

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but I think the first time I was

ever aware of like va va voom.

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Was Moonraker.

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Oh, yeah.

:

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I forget who.

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00:46:34,650 --> 00:46:35,040

Marc Preston: Yeah.

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I remember a kid I went to elementary

school with, you know, there was one guy

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00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,210

had like gold or metal teeth or something.

:

00:46:40,620 --> 00:46:43,930

And the kid said, I don't want to brush my

teeth because I want to get all fillings

:

00:46:43,940 --> 00:46:45,220

so I can make my mouth look like him.

:

00:46:45,340 --> 00:46:46,860

So you just eat sugary stuff all the time.

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That's one thing I remember about

Moonraker for whatever reason,

:

00:46:50,260 --> 00:46:53,375

uh, things it's People I forget

about until I'm in an interview.

:

00:46:53,375 --> 00:46:55,395

I'm like, Oh yeah, that kid,

what her house teeth are doing.

:

00:46:55,685 --> 00:46:57,355

But the next question I got for

you, if you're going to be on an

:

00:46:57,355 --> 00:46:59,585

exotic island, you got a year,

it's a, it's a beautiful place.

:

00:46:59,585 --> 00:47:01,205

You want to be there, but

it doesn't have streaming.

:

00:47:01,665 --> 00:47:05,285

Uh, but you're going to bring one

DVD, a movie you can watch over and

:

00:47:05,285 --> 00:47:07,555

over and a CD, or I can say a box set.

:

00:47:07,555 --> 00:47:11,505

If you'd like musically a theatrical,

you got just one thing each.

:

00:47:11,505 --> 00:47:13,185

You, you got to stick with the whole year.

:

00:47:13,185 --> 00:47:14,285

What would those things be?

:

00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:15,530

So the

:

00:47:15,530 --> 00:47:18,790

Chris Diamantopoulos: movie would be

Casino Royale a which version of the box

:

00:47:18,790 --> 00:47:23,980

set would be the Daniel Craig version

of the original Daniel Craig Not Marc.

:

00:47:23,980 --> 00:47:24,230

No one.

:

00:47:24,900 --> 00:47:30,650

Come on Marc Marc get it together

man for the love of God Yeah,

:

00:47:30,650 --> 00:47:32,360

no, but I heard somewhere you can

:

00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:37,425

do a good Sean Connery though the quest

for the grail It's not archaeology.

:

00:47:37,675 --> 00:47:38,955

It's a race against evil.

:

00:47:39,185 --> 00:47:41,965

The Nazis will cover the Grail

and the armies of darkness will

:

00:47:42,105 --> 00:47:43,565

march all over the Earth forever.

:

00:47:43,795 --> 00:47:44,765

This is an obsession.

:

00:47:44,905 --> 00:47:45,935

I never understood it.

:

00:47:46,085 --> 00:47:46,555

Never.

:

00:47:46,735 --> 00:47:47,455

Neither did Mom.

:

00:47:47,465 --> 00:47:48,265

Oh, yes, she did.

:

00:47:48,865 --> 00:47:49,795

Only too well.

:

00:47:50,425 --> 00:47:51,775

She kept her illness from me.

:

00:47:52,315 --> 00:47:53,735

And all I could do was mourn her.

:

00:47:54,315 --> 00:47:56,825

Okay, uh, I gotta do the golf clap.

:

00:47:57,065 --> 00:47:58,585

You gotta get the golf clap on that, man.

:

00:47:58,615 --> 00:47:58,845

Awesome.

:

00:47:59,975 --> 00:48:00,485

That's wonderful.

:

00:48:02,025 --> 00:48:03,590

Um, Uh, let's see.

:

00:48:03,610 --> 00:48:06,200

And then, uh, the record

would be a Sinatra come fly.

:

00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:06,880

Very nice.

:

00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:07,510

Marc Preston: Very nice.

:

00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:08,670

Um, yeah.

:

00:48:08,700 --> 00:48:12,960

Now, uh, from stem to stern, beginning to

end, from the time you wake up to the time

:

00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,590

you go to sleep at night, what are the

component parts for you of a perfect day?

:

00:48:17,250 --> 00:48:17,620

Okay.

:

00:48:17,620 --> 00:48:19,000

The component parts for

:

00:48:19,010 --> 00:48:20,150

Chris Diamantopoulos: me of a perfect day.

:

00:48:20,220 --> 00:48:22,770

Um, all right.

:

00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,870

I would say waking up without

someone needing me desperately

:

00:48:27,930 --> 00:48:30,170

to do something immediately.

:

00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:34,970

Uh, you know, no children in any sense of.

:

00:48:35,430 --> 00:48:37,450

distress needing something.

:

00:48:37,580 --> 00:48:39,710

So I wake up and, well, no one needs me.

:

00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:40,930

That's pretty cool.

:

00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:45,420

Um, I get to sit out on the deck and

get a little morning sun and maybe have

:

00:48:45,420 --> 00:48:47,710

a cup of coffee peacefully and quietly.

:

00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,410

Then I get to come downstairs.

:

00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:51,560

And make everyone

breakfast, including myself.

:

00:48:51,780 --> 00:48:52,300

That's fun.

:

00:48:52,300 --> 00:48:54,470

And the, and the chaos and

the craziness can ensue.

:

00:48:54,990 --> 00:49:04,300

Um, I'm able to take, uh, the dog and

my wife and I take the dog for a stroll.

:

00:49:04,330 --> 00:49:09,115

And we just sort of catch up on the,

uh, On what we might have missed

:

00:49:09,275 --> 00:49:11,585

over the course of the days that we

might be might have been working.

:

00:49:11,945 --> 00:49:14,775

We plan out what we're

going to make for dinner.

:

00:49:15,275 --> 00:49:19,375

I take a brief sojourn to

come to my studio and record

:

00:49:19,765 --> 00:49:21,205

a fun little bit of animation.

:

00:49:21,605 --> 00:49:24,915

I have to finish up quickly

because I have to run.

:

00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:30,270

To Culver studios to do a reshoot on

one scene for a movie that I'm super

:

00:49:30,270 --> 00:49:32,900

excited about that's coming out, but

it's only going to take a couple hours

:

00:49:33,100 --> 00:49:36,320

and it's perfect because on my way home

from Culver, I can stop at the Marcet

:

00:49:36,460 --> 00:49:41,630

and pick up the perfect ribeye, uh,

and some nice, uh, little tidbits for a

:

00:49:41,630 --> 00:49:43,730

little, uh, crudité and a little salad.

:

00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,730

Um, come home.

:

00:49:46,015 --> 00:49:47,555

Kids tell me school was great.

:

00:49:47,925 --> 00:49:49,295

The fire's roaring.

:

00:49:49,655 --> 00:49:51,745

We've just gotten the

little ones to sleep.

:

00:49:52,055 --> 00:49:53,235

I make a beautiful dinner.

:

00:49:53,235 --> 00:49:57,725

We sit, we eat, and then we all chill

out watching Survivor or Shark Tank.

:

00:49:58,155 --> 00:49:58,515

Marc Preston: There's a perfect.

:

00:49:58,515 --> 00:49:58,915

Very good.

:

00:49:58,915 --> 00:49:59,205

Very good.

:

00:49:59,205 --> 00:49:59,645

My friend.

:

00:49:59,645 --> 00:50:00,875

Last question I got for you.

:

00:50:00,875 --> 00:50:01,845

A 16 year old.

:

00:50:01,845 --> 00:50:04,675

You, you're going to go, you're going

to jump in the DeLorean and go see him.

:

00:50:04,845 --> 00:50:07,755

Piece of advice to either make

that moment a little bit better or

:

00:50:07,755 --> 00:50:09,175

put you on a different trajectory.

:

00:50:09,175 --> 00:50:12,965

What's the piece of advice

to 16 year old you stop

:

00:50:12,965 --> 00:50:14,275

Chris Diamantopoulos:

asking if they like you.

:

00:50:14,865 --> 00:50:16,335

It doesn't matter either way.

:

00:50:16,905 --> 00:50:20,145

And if you ask and get the honest

answer, you're really going to

:

00:50:20,145 --> 00:50:21,625

be disappointed with that answer.

:

00:50:21,805 --> 00:50:22,215

So just

:

00:50:22,225 --> 00:50:22,715

Marc Preston: carry on.

:

00:50:22,785 --> 00:50:23,295

Awesome.

:

00:50:23,295 --> 00:50:23,615

My friend.

:

00:50:23,615 --> 00:50:24,255

Thank you so much.

:

00:50:24,305 --> 00:50:26,145

Uh, you've been generous with your time.

:

00:50:26,155 --> 00:50:29,105

Um, go have a great weekend and, uh,

hopefully we'll catch up down the line.

:

00:50:29,275 --> 00:50:29,715

Appreciate it.

:

00:50:29,965 --> 00:50:31,685

Thanks for your time and your generosity.

:

00:50:33,605 --> 00:50:33,785

Okay.

:

00:50:33,785 --> 00:50:34,235

There you go.

:

00:50:34,265 --> 00:50:35,925

Chris Diamantopoulos.

:

00:50:35,975 --> 00:50:37,425

What a cool dude.

:

00:50:37,705 --> 00:50:40,795

Uh, stage TV film voiceover.

:

00:50:40,795 --> 00:50:42,145

He is doing it all.

:

00:50:42,325 --> 00:50:44,415

Like I mentioned, he

is kind of a chameleon.

:

00:50:44,625 --> 00:50:47,445

You know, he does things from

being the bad guy in the movie

:

00:50:47,445 --> 00:50:49,685

Red Notice to being Mickey Mouse.

:

00:50:49,745 --> 00:50:52,845

I really enjoyed sitting down

with him and I appreciate you

:

00:50:52,845 --> 00:50:54,275

stopping by to check it out.

:

00:50:54,475 --> 00:50:58,225

Again, the new show on Prime

Video is called The Sticky.

:

00:50:58,455 --> 00:51:01,135

It is funny, really cool,

something kind of different.

:

00:51:01,145 --> 00:51:03,895

I enjoyed a few episodes over

the weekend and this week I'm

:

00:51:03,895 --> 00:51:05,165

going to finish up the series.

:

00:51:05,175 --> 00:51:06,245

So, check it out.

:

00:51:06,265 --> 00:51:06,925

Good stuff.

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00:51:07,115 --> 00:51:09,155

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Okay.

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So I'm going to jump on out of here again.

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00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:51,290

I so appreciate you making whatever I

got going on part of what you've got

:

00:51:51,300 --> 00:51:52,870

going on, no matter what you're doing.

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00:51:53,085 --> 00:51:56,835

Exercising, walking the dog, or

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So, thank you again.

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Going to be back in a few days,

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