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On this episode of The Story & Craft Podcast, we sit down with actor, Shohreh Aghdashloo. We explore Shohreh’s journey from Iran to Hollywood, which is as captivating as her performances. Shohreh shares her early defiance against cultural norms and her celebrated career milestones, including her Academy Award-nominated and Emmy Award-winning roles. We discuss her parts in "The Expanse," "24," "Star Trek," “Renfield,” “X-Men” and her role as the voice of the dragon in the Netflix movie, “Damsel.”
Shohreh recounts her courageous escape from Iran during the 1978 revolution and the support of her husband in her pursuit of acting. We explore the societal expectations of Iranian women and the cultural influences that shaped her path, all against the backdrop of political upheaval. Shohreh brings context and insight to the quiet but persistent movement for change in Iran and the personal experiences that resonate with Shohreh's family, offering a window into the lives of women in a rapidly evolving country.
We discuss the nuances of bringing complex characters to life, as well as the challenges that come with controversial roles, as Shohreh discusses the backlash from her portrayal of a terrorist in "24." We also touch on her experiences working with Hollywood icons, such as Ben Kingsley, Nicolas Cage and more. This episode explores a dynamic tapestry of life lessons, laughter, and the simple joys of storytelling, with one of Hollywood’s most intriguing personalities.
SHOW HIGHLIGHTS
0:06:21 - Religion and Power in Film
0:09:01 - Escape From Iranian Revolution
0:13:53 - The Influence of Western Films
0:23:58 - Iranian Women's Empowerment and Evolution
0:24:24 - Audition Experience For Academy Award Winning Role
0:29:16 - The Expanse
0:37:27 - Praise for TV Show Characters
0:42:05 - Acting, Stories, and Future Projects
0:43:07 - Portraying Multi-Layered Characters as an Actor
0:49:27 - Exploring The Character Avasarala from The Expanse
0:54:30 - Cooking Show During COVID
1:06:07 - Working With Keanu Reeves and Creativity
1:17:25 - Acting, Imagination, and Life Lessons
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Transcripts
Acting, especially by women in Iran, was
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:Shohreh: frowned upon.
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:Shohreh: So that's why every time a gentleman asked
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:Shohreh: for my hand, I would have asked him right
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:Shohreh: there, and then how would you like me to
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:Shohreh: start acting?
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:Shohreh: This one said yes, and I married him.
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:Announcer: Welcome to Story Craft.
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:Announcer: Now here's your host, Marc Preston.
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:Marc: All right, here we go.
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:Marc: Another episode of Story Craft.
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:Marc: Thank you so much for stopping back by.
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:Marc: I sincerely appreciate it.
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:Marc: Now, if this is your first episode, my name
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:Marc: is Marc Preston and I'm glad to have you
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:Marc: along, especially for today's episode.
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:Marc: I have been trying to get this guest on for
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:Marc: some time now.
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:Marc: I've wanted to sit down with Shoray
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:Marc: Agadashloo for some time and really am
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:Marc: jazzed to bring you this episode because
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:Marc: she's got a great story to tell.
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:Marc: In fact, we spent a lot of time chatting
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:Marc: about her background, being from Iran, and
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:Marc: what it was like for her to start there and
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:Marc: the path she took to come be an Academy
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:Marc: Award-nominated actor, an Emmy
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:Marc: Award-winning actor, who has been in all
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:Marc: kinds of great projects.
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:Marc: You know her from playing Avasarala in the
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:Marc: sci-fi show one of my favorite sci-fi shows
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:Marc: actually the Expanse.
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:Marc: Also been in 24, the Flight Attendant,
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:Marc: on-screen movies such as Star Trek Beyond.
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:Marc: She was in the X-Men and, of course, the
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:Marc: House of Sand and Fog.
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:Marc: That's the movie she got the Academy Award
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:Marc: nomination for.
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:Marc: She also does a lot of voiceover work as
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:Marc: well.
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:Marc: In fact, right now you can hear her as the
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:Marc: voice of the dragon in the Netflix movie
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:Marc: Damsel Sho Ray is such a pleasure and I'm
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:Marc: All right, let's get after it.
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:Marc: Today is Shoray Agadashlu Day, right here
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:Marc: on Story Craft.
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:Marc: Before we start, I want to say it's Sh
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:Marc: Chore, correct?
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:Marc: Am I saying it correctly?
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:Marc: That's right.
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:Shohreh: It's Chore.
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:Shohreh: Yeah, you don't have to.
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:Shohreh: Yes, kind of drag the E Chore, it's just
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:Shohreh: Chore.
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:Shohreh: But I have to tell you a story about this
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:Shohreh: one.
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:Shohreh: I think I have put too many H's in my name
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:Shohreh: S-H-O-H-R-E-H.
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:Shohreh: And when I was working with Sir Ben
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:Shohreh: Kingsley since he's such a gentleman every
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:Shohreh: morning he made sure that he would say
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:Shohreh: hello to me first.
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:Shohreh: He would come to me and say good morning,
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:Shohreh: sir.
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:Shohreh: I'm like Jesus, how am I going?
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:Shohreh: One day, I told him, sir Ben, I think I put
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:Shohreh: too many H's in my name.
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:Shohreh: You don't have to pronounce each and every
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:Shohreh: one of them.
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:Shohreh: So yeah, it's.
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:Marc: Sori, you know, I've heard him in
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:Marc: interviews before.
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:Marc: He seems to be kind of a very, has a very
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:Marc: kind of a dry, sneaky sense of humor.
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:Marc: I don't know, I mean that's the sense I get
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:Marc: from him.
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:Shohreh: Yes, you're right.
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:Marc: But he does seem to have a good sense of
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:Marc: humor, amazing sense of humor.
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:Shohreh: It's unbelievable.
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:Shohreh: And the thing is that he could go on.
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:Shohreh: You know making jokes and you know having
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:Shohreh: fun and laughing while walking towards the
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:Shohreh: set, but the moment he puts his foot on the
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:Shohreh: set, the whole world turned into the world
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:Shohreh: of the character that he's living in.
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:Shohreh: It's just incredible how he does that.
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:Shohreh: First day when he started joking tell me
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:Shohreh: you know jokes and we were both laughing
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:Shohreh: and I was thinking how am I going to work
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:Shohreh: with him?
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:Shohreh: He's so happy and this is a tragedy.
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:Shohreh: And when we got to the set he just entered,
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:Shohreh: all of a sudden his chest started going up,
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:Shohreh: his head going up, and he said good morning
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:Shohreh: everyone.
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:Shohreh: And he was Colonel Behrani.
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:Shohreh: He was Colonel Behrani.
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:Shohreh: It was just incredible.
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:Shohreh: Yeah, he's an amazing actor.
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:Marc: Yeah, there was a physicality to uh like
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:Marc: even at the beginning of um the land.
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:Marc: Uh uh, house of sand sand, and fog am I
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:Marc: saying it's house of sand and folk?
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:Marc: When he was giving a speech?
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:Marc: He has a.
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:Marc: He has a very proud demeanor about him.
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:Marc: You know most certainly very much so.
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:Shohreh: and what I love about him and actors like
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:Shohreh: him or daniel-Lewis or Sarah Hopkins, it's
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:Shohreh: not just the soul of the character that
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:Shohreh: they work on.
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:Shohreh: They work on the character's physicality as
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:Shohreh: well.
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:Shohreh: But to me, the most smart questions for the
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:Shohreh: first meetings are tell me how my character
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:Shohreh: looks like.
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:Shohreh: Is she short, Is she tall, Is she
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:Shohreh: overweight, Is she thin?
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:Shohreh: And Ben Kingsley, Daniel Lewis, they first
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:Shohreh: think.
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:Shohreh: I have a feeling that they first think
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:Shohreh: about the physicality of their character,
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:Shohreh: Like when Ben Kingsley is portraying a
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:Shohreh: general Iranian general, proud Iranian
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:Shohreh: general.
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:Shohreh: Obviously he turns into a proud general
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:Shohreh: with his head held high.
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:Shohreh: So Daniel Day-Lewis, I love the way he
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:Shohreh: walks.
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:Shohreh: In the film it's called what there Will Be
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:Shohreh: Blood.
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:Shohreh: I think Axis should study his walking only
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:Shohreh: I mean his physicality, when he got his
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:Shohreh: character from.
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:Marc: You know, that's one of the only films I
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:Marc: have not seen.
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:Marc: I'm trying to think there Will Be Blood,
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:Marc: that is.
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:Marc: Is that Paul Thomas Sanders, the director,
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:Marc: directed that?
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:Marc: Yes, of course.
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:Marc: Yes, that's the only one of his films I
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:Marc: haven't seen yet.
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:Marc: But there will be blood.
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:Marc: That is still on my list of things to see.
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:Shohreh: Brilliant, brilliant question.
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:Shohreh: If you really have a question about mixing
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:Shohreh: governments with religions, if you ever
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:Shohreh: have a question about bringing religion
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:Shohreh: into our conversations and interactions,
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:Shohreh: what happens when we do that?
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:Shohreh: It's just incredible and I think Daniel
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:Shohreh: Day-Lewis has done an amazing job.
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:Shohreh: He's turned into this man and it affected
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:Shohreh: me so well.
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:Shohreh: I called my daughter and I said you have to
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:Shohreh: see this film because this is a
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:Shohreh: conversation between religion and power.
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:Marc: Well, you, of course, probably more than
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:Marc: most people in your own life experience
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:Marc: most people in your own life experience I
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:Marc: don't mean to get too far ahead, but being
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:Marc: from Iran and probably have a more acute
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:Marc: sense of kind of the blending of faith and
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:Marc: politics, it seems like there is a in your
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:Marc: history and kind of in 1979 was just such a
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:Marc: pivotal swing.
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:Marc: When people think Iran now I feel like it's
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:Marc: such a majestic, interesting dynamic, just
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:Marc: cool culture, but unfortunately seems to be
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:Marc: getting kind of quashed by talk of the
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:Marc: politics.
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:Marc: I just kind of wanted your feedback on that
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:Marc: because I haven't spoken with anybody who
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:Marc: kind of saw things pre and post 1979.
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:Marc: Just kind of generally your thoughts and
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:Marc: kind of how that affected you and
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:Marc: influenced you and I know that's such a
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:Marc: broad question but no, you're right, I know
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:Marc: exactly where you're coming from.
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:Shohreh: You are absolutely right.
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:Shohreh: The reason I am more interested in
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:Shohreh: political either religious political or
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:Shohreh: just pure political films is because of the
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:Shohreh: fact that I have seen it firsthand how a
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:Shohreh: secular society overnight turns into a
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:Shohreh: religious tyranny.
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:Shohreh: I have seen how it works and I have seen
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:Shohreh: how it ends, usually because of the people.
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:Shohreh: The more kind of religious people you have
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:Shohreh: in your country, the more susceptible you
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:Shohreh: are to a religious tyranny, unfortunately.
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:Shohreh: So I've seen it firsthand.
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:Marc: Growing up in Iran.
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:Marc: What was the experience like?
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:Marc: And have you been back since then, in
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:Marc: recent years years, have you been able to
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:Marc: kind of do the ab comparison and kind of
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:Marc: the, the aesthetic, what it felt like to be
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:Marc: there?
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:Shohreh: I'm afraid not.
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:Shohreh: I have not been able to travel back to my
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:Shohreh: birth country for almost 45 years now.
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:Shohreh: I left right at the time of the turmoil, as
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:Shohreh: soon as I heard that there were rumors but
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:Shohreh: usually one should take rumors seriously if
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:Shohreh: one wants to stay away from troubles and as
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:Shohreh: soon as I heard that Ayatollahs are coming.
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:Shohreh: What is this?
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:Shohreh: Ayatollah Khomeini is coming from France
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:Shohreh: via Air France.
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:Shohreh: He has refused to come in with an Iranian
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:Shohreh: plane.
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:Shohreh: He wants to come in with a French plane.
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:Shohreh: And I'm thinking, oh my God, why do I feel
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:Shohreh: a conspiracy here, and why shouldn't he not
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:Shohreh: come in, you know, in an Iranian plane?
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:Shohreh: He's coming in with the help of his allies
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:Shohreh: and this looks bad and I don't want to stay
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:Shohreh: here.
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:Shohreh: I don't want to live here for now.
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:Marc: So on February 28th, but you were very
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:Marc: young too to be able to make such big
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:Marc: decisions at that age.
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:Marc: That's a big decision to make.
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:Shohreh: Yes, I was 26,.
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:Shohreh: To be honest with you, to be honest with
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:Shohreh: you, sometimes it surprises myself as well
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:Shohreh: that how smart I was at the age of 26 when
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:Shohreh: I decided to leave the mayhem behind and
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:Shohreh: just go to Europe and try my chance over
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:Shohreh: there, because I knew I was an actress and
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:Shohreh: I knew that under religious tyranny, under
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:Shohreh: mullahs, there wouldn't be a place for an
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:Shohreh: outspoken young actress.
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:Shohreh: I was back then, but unfortunately I made
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:Shohreh: up my mind too late.
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:Shohreh: The prime minister at the time had already
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:Shohreh: ordered all the airports to shut down and
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:Shohreh: for him to have some time to think about
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:Shohreh: what to do with the Ayatollah when he
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:Shohreh: arrives.
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:Shohreh: And as soon as I heard it from the radio
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:Shohreh: that airports have been shut down, I
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:Shohreh: thought that I told my dog, my beloved dog,
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:Shohreh: pasha.
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:Shohreh: His name was Pasha in Turkish means sir.
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:Shohreh: I told Pasha, I said pasha, destination is
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:Shohreh: unknown.
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:Shohreh: I don't know what's going to happen to me.
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:Shohreh: I cannot take you with me, but I am leaving.
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:Shohreh: February 28, 1978, 4 am, I jumped into my
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:Shohreh: car and drove to the UK.
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:Shohreh: I was familiar with the life in London.
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:Marc: Well, of course it begs the question of a
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:Marc: little bit more origin story, what you know
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:Marc: as far as your family goes.
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:Marc: Did you come from a big family, Were you an
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:Marc: only child?
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:Marc: Or, second part of the question is, what
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:Marc: kind of career did your folks have?
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:Shohreh: Well, my father was a deputy at the
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:Shohreh: Ministry of Health.
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:Shohreh: My mother used to be a teacher, but when
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:Shohreh: she gave birth to my brother, my father
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:Shohreh: asked her to stay home and try to teach us
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:Shohreh: rather than teaching the strange kids, and
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:Shohreh: my mother accepted it.
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:Shohreh: After that she gave birth to two more sons.
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:Shohreh: We are a big family, including cousins and
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:Shohreh: you know how tribal it is in that part of
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:Shohreh: the world and very loving, very loving
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:Shohreh: parents.
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:Shohreh: My mother was 20.
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:Shohreh: My father was 22.
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:Shohreh: So you can imagine how young they were and
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:Shohreh: how much love they could have given me.
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:Shohreh: And I started acting at the age of 20.
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:Shohreh: I got married at the age of 19 because my
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:Shohreh: parents did not agree with me to become an
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:Shohreh: actor, but my suitor did, and as soon as he
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:Shohreh: told me that there's no problem for me to
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:Shohreh: start acting, I accepted his proposal.
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:Marc: Having a partner who gives you
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:Marc: unconditional support, that's an important
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:Marc: thing.
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:Marc: That's it.
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:Marc: You could have.
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:Marc: Not's an important thing.
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:Shohreh: That's it.
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:Shohreh: You could have not said it more beautifully.
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:Shohreh: That's it.
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:Shohreh: He was a partner.
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:Shohreh: He would never, never leave me alone.
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:Shohreh: He would always back me up in every which
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:Shohreh: way, and we got married.
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:Shohreh: A couple of months later, a friend of his
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:Shohreh: who was working at the City Theater told me
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:Shohreh: that the City Theatre was looking for an
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:Shohreh: actress to play a very important role in a
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:Shohreh: play by one of my favorite, favorite
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:Shohreh: writers, playwrights, edward Bond.
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:Shohreh: It was called the Narrow Road to the Deep
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:Shohreh: North.
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:Shohreh: I went for an audition, I was accepted and
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:Shohreh: I started acting by the age of 26,.
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:Shohreh: When the turmoil started, I was already a
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:Shohreh: successful actress on my way.
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:Marc: I had already won a couple of awards.
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:Marc: Somebody once said if you can imagine
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:Marc: yourself doing anything else, this isn't
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:Marc: the thing for you.
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:Marc: Did you, at a very young age, go?
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:Marc: This is what I'm going to do, or was it
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:Marc: just one of a few things?
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:Marc: Or was it just one of a few things?
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:Shohreh: One of the few things I should say, because
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:Shohreh: when I was five years old, I already knew
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:Shohreh: that I would love to act, but I didn't say
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:Shohreh: anything because I didn't know what acting
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:Shohreh: was.
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:Shohreh: When I was 16 years of age, our family, we
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:Shohreh: were all staying with my uncle in the
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:Shohreh: Caspian Sea.
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:Shohreh: He was a merchant, he was into cotton
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:Shohreh: fields and his lifestyle was very much like
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:Shohreh: Pride and Prejudice, one of my favorite
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:Shohreh: books.
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:Shohreh: He had six daughters, three sons, and when
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:Shohreh: the four of us joined them we had the time
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:Shohreh: of our lives.
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:Shohreh: It was the most beautiful, beautiful trips
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:Shohreh: I've ever taken in my life, and every time
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:Shohreh: we were there, my uncle and his wife would
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:Shohreh: take us to see a movie once a week on
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:Shohreh: Fridays equivalent of Sundays here in the
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:Shohreh: Western world and we went to see Gone with
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:Shohreh: the Wind and I was mesmerized.
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:Marc: So were Western films very popular.
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:Marc: You know films from the U?
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:Marc: S or the UK.
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:Marc: Were they very popular in Iran?
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:Shohreh: Very much so we dubbed the movies.
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:Shohreh: We were so lazy.
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:Shohreh: We dubbed the movies, but they were
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:Shohreh: dominating the whole, you know, the whole
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:Shohreh: arena of of theater cinemas in Iran, the
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:Shohreh: whole arena of theater cinemas in Iran.
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:Shohreh: The Western films were dominating.
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:Shohreh: To be honest with you, when I was a
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:Shohreh: teenager I watched mostly Western films
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:Shohreh: than Iranian films.
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:Shohreh: But when I left Iran I started watching
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:Shohreh: more Iranian films.
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:Shohreh: It's interesting, yeah, and another reason
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:Shohreh: was because my mother was an avid reader.
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:Shohreh: God rest her soul.
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:Shohreh: All my life, childhood life, all I remember
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:Shohreh: is my mother reading a book and talking
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:Shohreh: about Daphne.
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:Shohreh: Emily, charlotte and my brothers and I are
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:Shohreh: like who are these people?
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:Shohreh: These are Bronte's sisters.
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:Shohreh: Sorry, bronte's sisters.
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:Shohreh: They are the best writers, one of the best
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:Shohreh: writers on the face of the earth.
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:Shohreh: Jane Austen sorry, pride and Prejudice.
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:Shohreh: She was all the time talking about the
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:Shohreh: Western literature and how rich it is.
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:Shohreh: If you want to.
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:Marc: So story was a big thing for you as you
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:Marc: were growing up, the idea of story and
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:Marc: storytelling and kind of getting lost in
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:Marc: story, Very much so.
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:Marc: Now when you came over, did any of your
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:Marc: family come with you, either then or after,
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:Marc: or how did that work out?
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:Shohreh: No, I'm afraid I was alone.
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:Shohreh: I was alone, but my aunt lived in london.
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:Shohreh: She was my only hope and she was in london
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:Shohreh: at that time.
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:Shohreh: Usually she would just travel to london in
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:Shohreh: the summers and stay in iran in the winters,
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:Shohreh: but she happened to be in london and I was
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:Shohreh: hoping that I would join her.
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:Shohreh: Soon as I arrived, I sold my car.
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:Marc: I had a mercedes-benz convertible green and
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:Marc: it was called sanja oh wait, was it with
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:Marc: the uh the little two-door, the with the uh
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:Marc: little two-door mercedes yes, oh my my
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:Marc: grandmother rest her soul.
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:Marc: She, she, you, you know, my whole life.
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:Marc: She had a Lincoln Town car, but she always
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:Marc: wanted that car Circa, not the newer ones,
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:Marc: but the ones that were probably early 80s,
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:Marc: late 70s.
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:Marc: You know that was her ideal car, you know,
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:Marc: and she wanted it in gold, if I remember
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:Marc: right, when you came over, I mean that's, I
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:Marc: mean digesting what a brave move that was.
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:Marc: I mean, were you, was there just no other
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:Marc: option in your mind?
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:Marc: Like this, this is the only option.
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:Marc: So did that just make it easier for you?
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:Marc: Like this is the only thing to do, or you
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:Marc: know, you know to, to be that young, it's
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:Marc: still kind of mind boggling that you, that
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:Marc: you made that choice, it was the only
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:Shohreh: It was the only option.
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:Shohreh: It was the only option for me to get out
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:Shohreh: and to get myself educated, highly educated.
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:Shohreh: I had a diploma.
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:Shohreh: I didn't have a major, so I had to study
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:Shohreh: and I studied From the beginning.
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:Shohreh: I knew that I was going to sell my car, I
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:Shohreh: was going to sell my jewelries, no matter
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:Shohreh: how much they're going to be sold for, and
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:Shohreh: I'm going to start studying politics
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:Shohreh: because I wanted to know what was happening
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:Shohreh: in Iran.
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:Shohreh: Why, why the turmoil at such time, three
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:Shohreh: months after the Shah of Iran announced
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:Shohreh: Iranian oil independence.
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:Shohreh: He said it, he said it out loud to the
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:Shohreh: whole world, that we're not selling our oil
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:Shohreh: for half its price or one quarter of its
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:Shohreh: real price.
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:Shohreh: We're selling it for its right price, like
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:Shohreh: others do.
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:Shohreh: And three months later he was toppled.
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:Shohreh: So I just wanted to know what's happening.
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:Marc: Did you have any sense, having grown up
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:Marc: there, that there was going to be this
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:Marc: change?
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:Marc: Did you feel like for lack of a better way
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:Marc: of putting it a tide coming, or was it just
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:Marc: all of a sudden, it just happened?
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:Marc: Did you feel any kind of evolution
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:Marc: happening?
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:Shohreh: If I want to compare it to anything in real
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:Shohreh: happened in Iran is very much similar to
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:Shohreh: what happens in one of my favorite TV
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:Shohreh: series of all times, handmaid Tales.
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:Shohreh: The clock has turned back 1300 years.
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:Shohreh: I swear I wanted to.
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:Shohreh: I'm always wishing to meet Margaret Atwood
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:Shohreh: and ask this amazing writer where she got
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:Shohreh: her tip from, because she started writing
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:Shohreh: the novels in 1979.
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:Shohreh: The revolution in Iran took in 1978.
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:Shohreh: What happened?
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:Shohreh: I'm dying to talk to her and find out where
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:Shohreh: she got the idea from.
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:Shohreh: Where she got the idea from and why is this
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:Shohreh: so similar to what happened in Iran?
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:Shohreh: It means that, in my knowledge, it what it
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:Shohreh: means.
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:Shohreh: It means that when superpowers make a
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:Shohreh: decision, there is nothing you can do as an
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:Shohreh: individual.
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:Shohreh: You just have to go with it.
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:Shohreh: Either you save yourself, leave, or you
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:Shohreh: stay, and you go through a lot now, what
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:Shohreh: was your going back when you decided you
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:Shohreh: were wanting to act?
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:Marc: Was that well received by your family?
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:Marc: Were they very encouraging?
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:Marc: Were they a little bit?
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:Marc: I don't know about that.
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:Marc: How did they receive that idea?
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:Shohreh: The problem is that I wish they had
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:Shohreh: received it well.
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:Shohreh: My mother was fine, but my father was not
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:Shohreh: happy with the idea.
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:Shohreh: I remember when I told my mother when we
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:Shohreh: were watching Gone with the Wind in the
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:Shohreh: Intel Wall, all the other kids were asking
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:Shohreh: for sodas, popcorns, this and that.
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:Shohreh: And my mother said what do you want?
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:Shohreh: And I said I want to become an actress.
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:Shohreh: And she said not under our roof.
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:Shohreh: You know, acting is frowned upon in Iran.
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:Shohreh: Acting, especially by women in Iran, was
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:Shohreh: frowned upon.
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:Shohreh: We couldn't.
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:Shohreh: And she said no, sorry, we cannot do this.
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:Shohreh: So that's why every time a gentleman asked
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:Shohreh: for my hand, I would have asked him right
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:Shohreh: there.
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:Shohreh: And then, how would you like me to start
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:Shohreh: acting?
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:Shohreh: And this one said yes, and I married him.
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:Marc: When did you get to the US and start
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:Marc: working over here?
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:Shohreh: Allow me to tell you something about the
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:Shohreh: According to Antonin Artaud, in Iran, we
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:Shohreh: called him the father of theater.
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:Shohreh: According to him, an actor is someone who
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:Shohreh: is standing in the middle of fire pointing
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:Shohreh: out the truth.
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:Shohreh: Obviously, the actor is going to be burned,
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:Shohreh: obviously, but actors do not mind going
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:Shohreh: through the process.
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:Shohreh: Actors do not mind to be burned.
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:Shohreh: I never forget what Frank Sinatra said
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:Shohreh: about Judy Garland.
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:Shohreh: It's beautiful.
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:Shohreh: Frank Sinatra says Judy Garland dies a
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:Shohreh: little every time she sings, and he's
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:Shohreh: absolutely right.
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:Shohreh: We die a little every time we act, but we
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:Shohreh: don't mind because we're like butterflies
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:Shohreh: around the candle.
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:Shohreh: We don't mind to be burned for the right
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:Shohreh: cause.
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:Shohreh: How I started acting here.
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:Shohreh: This is really interesting.
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:Shohreh: When they say chance, they really mean it.
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:Shohreh: I was traveling when DreamWorks, the
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:Shohreh: production company of the movie House of
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:Shohreh: Sand and Fog, was looking for an actress to
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:Shohreh: play the role of the general's wife.
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:Shohreh: I was traveling, I was on a theatrical tour.
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:Shohreh: I had recently back and I was sitting in my
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:Shohreh: office and the phone rang and the lady on
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:Shohreh: the phone was asking for Suriya Abidasluiya,
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:Shohreh: and I said that sounds like my name, but
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:Shohreh: it's not my name.
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:Shohreh: She goes whatever your name is, would you
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:Shohreh: like to come down and sort it out.
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:Shohreh: And I said where to?
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:Shohreh: She said DreamWorks, and I started shaking
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:Shohreh: a little bit and I said, regarding.
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:Shohreh: She said the house of sand and fog.
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:Shohreh: And I started shaking a little bit and I
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:Shohreh: said, regarding.
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:Shohreh: She said the house of sand and fog and I
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:Shohreh: went speechless because I had already read
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:Shohreh: the book.
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:Shohreh: Oh, okay, and I told, yeah, I'd already
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:Shohreh: read the book and while reading it,
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:Shohreh: apparently on one occasion I was making
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:Shohreh: miserable sounds and my husband asked me
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:Shohreh: what's the matter with you?
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:Shohreh: And I said if one day they make a movie out
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:Shohreh: of this book and do not give me this role,
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:Shohreh: then there is no democracy in this country.
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:Shohreh: That would be very unfair.
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:Marc: How cool is that?
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:Marc: To read a book or to see a screenplay,
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:Marc: anything and go that's the thing I want to
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:Marc: do and get a call.
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:Marc: So you're trying probably try not to act
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:Marc: too excited, you know, but did you?
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:Marc: Uh, how fast did you get down to the
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:Marc: casting office or the?
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:Marc: Uh, dreamworks the day?
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:Shohreh: after the day after, the day after.
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:Shohreh: But my mistake was because I thought that
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:Shohreh: my character is always coughed up up in the
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:Shohreh: story and that's how Iranian women are when
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:Shohreh: they wake up, rather than having breakfast
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:Shohreh: first, they would just take care of their
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:Shohreh: hair and face and put a nice dress on and
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:Shohreh: then they come for breakfast.
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:Shohreh: That's how she was and that's why I went
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:Shohreh: out of my way.
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:Shohreh: As soon as I received a call, I went to
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:Shohreh: Nordstrom, bought myself some expensive
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:Shohreh: pieces, put a lot of makeup on, went to the
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:Shohreh: audition and the director, a wedding pair
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:Shohreh: man.
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:Shohreh: He looked at me and he said oh no, no, no,
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:Shohreh: no, no.
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:Shohreh: Go home, come back tomorrow without makeup.
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:Shohreh: And I said but this woman is always coughed
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:Shohreh: up to her teeth.
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:Shohreh: He goes, I understand, but I want to do
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:Shohreh: this, I want to portray this woman without
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:Shohreh: makeup.
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:Shohreh: So I came home, I found a pair of black
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:Shohreh: jeans very old ones black T-shirt, which
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:Shohreh: was almost yellow, and put my hair in a bun
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:Shohreh: and I said because I didn't want to use my
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:Shohreh: hair as a dramatic tool, and went for the
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:Shohreh: audition.
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:Marc: But you fundamentally understood who this
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:Marc: character was.
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:Marc: You already did the homework, as they say.
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:Marc: You already knew who she was.
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:Shohreh: Inside out.
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:Shohreh: When I was reading the book I always
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:Shohreh: thought that, my God, I know a woman like
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:Shohreh: this in Iran.
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:Shohreh: Oh, my God, I came across another woman
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:Shohreh: like this in Iran, so I was pretty familiar
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:Shohreh: with it.
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:Shohreh: So the day after I put a jeans pair of
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:Shohreh: black, torn kind of old jeans a black shirt
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:Shohreh: that was almost yellow and it was so old
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:Shohreh: Put my hair I had a long hair put my hair
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:Shohreh: in a bun because I didn't want to use my
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:Shohreh: hair as a dramatic tool.
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:Shohreh: When I was leaving, the director told me
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:Shohreh: come back tomorrow and see if you can make
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:Shohreh: me cry.
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:Shohreh: And I was determined to make him cry.
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:Shohreh: No, makeup, nothing.
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:Shohreh: I went to the audition Four scenes I was
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:Shohreh: supposed to audition for.
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:Shohreh: He asked me if I would like to take a pause
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:Shohreh: in between the scenes and I said no, thank
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:Shohreh: you.
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:Shohreh: And he said why not?
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:Shohreh: And I said I want to get to the crescendo
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:Shohreh: and make you cry.
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:Shohreh: And he said let's try.
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:Shohreh: And he cried and gave me the robe.
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:Marc: That has to be quite an empowering feeling.
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:Marc: You mentioned how she wore makeup.
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:Marc: Was there always a sense of, like my
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:Marc: grandmother, rest her soul.
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:Marc: She would never leave.
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:Marc: She wouldn't go to the grocery store.
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:Marc: We're from Dallas.
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:Marc: You wouldn't leave the house without
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:Marc: putting your face on.
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:Marc: Was that kind of the same thing to be
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:Marc: dressed to have the makeup on, to you know
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:Marc: to?
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:Marc: Was that kind of the way that ladies more
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:Marc: or less operated in iraq?
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:Marc: It's not just leaving the house.
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:Shohreh: even in the house they're supposed to get
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:Shohreh: ready.
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:Shohreh: I, my aunt, for example my mother wasn't
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:Shohreh: that much, she wasn't there.
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:Shohreh: She was always reading or up to some new
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:Shohreh: kind of convention or whatever.
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:Shohreh: But my aunt would wake up at 5 am, one hour
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:Shohreh: before her husband, who was a general that
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:Shohreh: was going to wake up Because she was
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:Shohreh: beautiful.
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:Shohreh: She was beautiful.
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:Shohreh: My family side and my mother's side are
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:Shohreh: blonde, white and blonde because they're
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:Shohreh: coming from the north of Iran, and she was
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:Shohreh: like a doll.
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:Shohreh: But still she had to wake up at 5 am, comb
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:Shohreh: her hair, style it, put a nice lipstick on,
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:Shohreh: a little bit of rose on her cheeks, cheeks,
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:Shohreh: wear a nice dress.
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:Shohreh: And then they had, of course they had
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:Shohreh: domestic help.
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:Shohreh: She would just start putting everything on
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:Shohreh: the table and my aunt would make herself
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:Shohreh: like a doll and would sit on the breakfast
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:Shohreh: table waiting for her husband.
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:Shohreh: So when the husband sees her he would see
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:Shohreh: this beautiful lady in a nice dress sitting
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:Shohreh: at the table having breakfast with him.
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:Marc: You know, to kind of go back to what we
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:Marc: were talking about before, you know, in
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:Marc: 1978, 79, now, the position women have or
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:Marc: don't have in Iran, you know it must warm
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:Marc: your heart to see the young people
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:Marc: protesting, to kind of see, you know,
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:Marc: hopefully fingers crossed, moving the
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:Marc: needle, you know.
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:Marc: And how do you feel things are moving?
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:Marc: Do you feel there's movement in a good
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:Marc: direction or do you feel it's stagnated?
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:Marc: When you watch the news or you talk to
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:Marc: family, what's your perception of Iran in
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:Marc: 2024?
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:Shohreh: I wouldn't say that it has died down.
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:Shohreh: I would say it has gone underground.
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:Shohreh: Yes, in general, Iran is a lot quieter than
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:Shohreh: it used to be.
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:Shohreh: Last year the same time, when 1,500 young
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:Shohreh: people were killed on the surface of the
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:Shohreh: streets just because of having peaceful
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:Shohreh: demonstrations.
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:Shohreh: Just because of having a peaceful
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:Shohreh: demonstrations, it looks calmer.
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:Shohreh: But problem, the huge problem, the real
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:Shohreh: problem beneath all of these is the fact
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:Shohreh: that not until the whole world agrees with
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:Shohreh: the Iranian people, who are asking for
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:Shohreh: freedom, who are asking for a secular
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:Shohreh: society, would not happen until the whole
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:Shohreh: world agrees with them, until the world
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:Shohreh: stop buying Iranian oil for one third of
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:Shohreh: its real price.
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:Shohreh: Who wants to buy the oil for its real price
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:Shohreh: when they can buy it for half a price?
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:Shohreh: It's all about money, it's about a
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:Shohreh: strategic geographic position of Iran in
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:Shohreh: the region, and not until the world
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:Shohreh: realizes that they need to leave Iran alone.
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:Shohreh: Not just Iran, but all the countries that
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:Shohreh: have been occupied.
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:Shohreh: Leave them alone and let them go through
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:Shohreh: the same process as the others did and got
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:Shohreh: where we are right now turned into an
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:Shohreh: advanced technological country.
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:Shohreh: Let it be, let it live.
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:Marc: You know your studies in government.
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:Marc: You studied government, is what you said,
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:Marc: correct.
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:Shohreh: International relations, international
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:Shohreh: relations, political science, yeah.
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:Marc: I had to, I had to.
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:Marc: So that was kind of your, your journey to
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:Marc: kind of deconstruct and kind of figure out
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:Marc: how that makes sense to you, what was going
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:Marc: on, you know, or have it, maybe it didn't
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:Marc: mean.
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:Shohreh: Back to your question about the expense.
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:Shohreh: It's really interesting.
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:Shohreh: You were saying that deconstructing.
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:Shohreh: Had I not studied politics, I would have
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:Shohreh: never been able to put it off as well as
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:Shohreh: they say I did, because what I did the
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:Shohreh: first episode, when it arrived, I started
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:Shohreh: reading it and I started decoding it.
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:Shohreh: That's how I can portray my characters
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:Shohreh: decode what people say, decode the cities
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:Shohreh: or the names that have been put there
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:Shohreh: Fictional of course.
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:Shohreh: Try to find out what the writers or the
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:Shohreh: novelists are trying to tell you.
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:Shohreh: Where is this coming from?
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:Shohreh: This Martians, who could they stand for?
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:Shohreh: Martians, belters, earthers.
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:Shohreh: So when I started decoding them, I realized
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:Shohreh: what was going on, and then I started
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:Shohreh: working on my character, one of the things
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:Shohreh: I think was captured very well.
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:Marc: I'm not a Trekkie, I'm not a Star Trek guy,
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:Marc: but I appreciate Star Trek because it
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:Marc: really addressed real core human issues
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:Marc: through the spectrum of the sci-fi stuff
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:Marc: and that's something that I think you could
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:Marc: see the expanse many moons from now
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:Marc: actually being a real thing.
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:Marc: You know, colonizing Mars, people on Mars
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:Marc: going?
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:Marc: Wait a minute, why don't we have our
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:Marc: autonomy?
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:Marc: Why are we beholden?
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:Marc: And then for you it seemed like, as you
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:Marc: said, it made a lot of sense.
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:Marc: You know everybody's struggle, their
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:Marc: desires.
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:Marc: Would you say that the beginning of
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:Marc: Avasarala?
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:Marc: She was very political.
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:Marc: You know she was more of a political animal
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:Marc: early on and then evolved from there.
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:Marc: Would you say that's accurate, absolutely?
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:Shohreh: It's her journey.
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:Shohreh: I believe it's the journey of every
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:Shohreh: politician.
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:Shohreh: Let's take Margaret Thatcher for that
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:Shohreh: reason, and let's see how she started, what
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:Shohreh: she was trying to do, how she represented
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:Shohreh: the crown and where she ended up being, and
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:Shohreh: how once she was not liked by many but now
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:Shohreh: she's a hero.
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:Shohreh: It all depends on the politician's journey
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:Shohreh: and the way the novelists did it.
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:Shohreh: They did an amazing job because she takes a
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:Shohreh: real arc, as in real life.
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:Shohreh: She is a politician but at the same time
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:Shohreh: she's a mother, she's a wife.
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:Marc: Well, at the end of the day, the fact that
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:Marc: the mother aspect seemed to color, really,
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:Marc: that was what was.
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:Marc: Everything was floating on.
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:Marc: That experience, or the experience of your
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:Marc: son, by the way, if anybody hasn't seen the
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:Marc: expanse, if you're listening to this, uh,
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:Marc: spoilers everywhere but uh, but your, but
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:Marc: your son, but your son dying, really, I
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:Marc: think that not only influenced you but also
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:Marc: helped you connect to the other characters.
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:Marc: It was so well-written, you know it was so
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:Marc: because there was, there was an easy, was
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:Marc: an easy empathy that your character seemed
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:Marc: to have with even Frankie Adams' character.
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:Marc: You know, here's somebody who's a military
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:Marc: grunt, but you made a connection and you
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:Marc: know, ultimately, the relationship you had
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:Marc: with Wes Chatham's character was arguably
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:Marc: my favorite.
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:Marc: You know, I'm kind of wondering, you know.
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:Marc: Just, you know, calling you Chrissy, you
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:Marc: know, like, how it evolved is such a Well
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:Marc: written.
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:Marc: Did you have any input?
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:Marc: It seems like whoever was involved in
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:Marc: wardrobe it seems like that kind of evolved.
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:Marc: And there was more.
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:Marc: It almost seemed like they were.
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:Marc: Were they hooking into your own lineage,
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:Marc: your own history and trying to?
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:Marc: It seems like you were the, the, the
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:Marc: jewelry, the wardrobe.
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:Marc: It was bigger, it was.
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:Marc: It was not loud that that vibrant, vibrant
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:Marc: and larger.
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:Marc: Yeah, did you have any discussion with them
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:Marc: about that, about the way you were wanting
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:Marc: to look and the way you were wanting to
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:Marc: present?
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:Shohreh: day one, when I went for a fitting with
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:Shohreh: Joanne Hansen, our designer, the series
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:Shohreh: designer, costume designer.
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:Shohreh: As soon as I opened the door, the dress was
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:Shohreh: on the mannequin, the costume.
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:Shohreh: I looked at it and I just bowed to her and
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:Shohreh: I said what an amazing job you have done,
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:Shohreh: what an amazing job.
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:Shohreh: East meets west here and this is what I
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:Shohreh: love about this costume.
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:Shohreh: She looks at me and, very humble, she says
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:Shohreh: is there anything you'd like to add to it?
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:Shohreh: I'm like, oh boy, what a humble designer.
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:Shohreh: And I said, well, honestly, yeah, every
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:Shohreh: time, every single time, she was like what
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:Shohreh: would you like?
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:Shohreh: If there's anything you would like to
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:Shohreh: change or add, please let me know.
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:Shohreh: We'll do it by all means.
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:Shohreh: And I looked at the outfit and I thought
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:Shohreh: the costume.
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:Shohreh: And I thought and I thought, well, with
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:Shohreh: this costume I am going to enter a pretty
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:Shohreh: dangerous area.
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:Shohreh: And what I remember from Hitchcock's,
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:Shohreh: alfred Hitchcock's movies was that every
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:Shohreh: time there was going to be, a scene was
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:Shohreh: going to be dangerous or danger was about
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:Shohreh: to come, he would use the color red.
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:Shohreh: He would use red.
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:Shohreh: And I said I talked to Jordan about Alfred
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:Shohreh: Hitchcock's use of colors in his movies and
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:Shohreh: I said do you think we can just make her
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:Shohreh: cufflinks red or give her a red necklace
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:Shohreh: Because she's about to enter a dangerous
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:Shohreh: zone and I'd like to give the audience.
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:Shohreh: If the audience are familiar with
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:Shohreh: Hitchcock's movies, they would say why is
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:Shohreh: she wearing red?
877
:Shohreh: Is this going to be dangerous?
878
:Shohreh: Is this scene going to be dangerous, or
879
:Shohreh: what?
880
:Shohreh: She was always all the time and, to be
881
:Shohreh: honest with you, I haven't seen anything
882
:Shohreh: like her yet.
883
:Shohreh: I've worked almost 50 years now, half a
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:Shohreh: century.
885
:Shohreh: She is really one of a kind.
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:Marc: I have to say, the whole show and they're
887
:Marc: wonderful characters, such an incredible
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:Marc: ensemble.
889
:Marc: It seems like there was a lot of love and
890
:Marc: care put into your character by, like you
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:Marc: mentioned just the wardrobe and things like.
892
:Marc: It's such an aesthetically interesting show
893
:Marc: to watch.
894
:Marc: It's so funny because there's a couple of
895
:Marc: years ago I just happened upon it expanse.
896
:Marc: I was like I'm gonna watch it one day, one
897
:Marc: day and it's it grabbed me immediately and
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:Marc: I have to say Officer Allah is the one,
899
:Marc: you're one of the main reasons I was pulled
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:Marc: into that ecosystem.
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:Marc: Thank you, thank you, thank you.
902
:Shohreh: Thank you so much, but I have to tell you
903
:Shohreh: something.
904
:Shohreh: It's really interesting.
905
:Shohreh: This show has received a lot of great
906
:Shohreh: reviews.
907
:Shohreh: I haven't even received one bad one, but my
908
:Shohreh: favorite of them all is a real scientist
909
:Shohreh: review and this show.
910
:Shohreh: In two and a half pages he proves to you as
911
:Shohreh: to why expense is the most accurate version
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:Shohreh: of the future.
913
:Shohreh: If you're not being careful, keep polluting
914
:Shohreh: our air and our oceans.
915
:Shohreh: This is the end.
916
:Shohreh: And you're right, because every time I read
917
:Shohreh: the script I felt like my God, it sounds
918
:Shohreh: supposedly 200 years, 300 years from now,
919
:Shohreh: but it relatively speaks for today.
920
:Shohreh: It is already happening.
921
:Shohreh: Indeed, indeed, it's already happening.
922
:Marc: Indeed, indeed, it's such a wonderful
923
:Marc: analogy and metaphors and all, and I spoke
924
:Marc: with Neil deGrasse Tyson about a little
925
:Marc: over a year ago.
926
:Marc: We're talking about our favorite sci-fi
927
:Marc: shows, which one we thought got it right,
928
:Marc: and of course, neil deGrasse Tyson doesn't
929
:Marc: bite his tongue.
930
:Marc: We were talking about the movie the Martian
931
:Marc: with Matt Damon, but I mentioned the Ex,
932
:Marc: the expanse, and I was wanting to get his
933
:Marc: feedback.
934
:Marc: He said it's on his list of things to see.
935
:Marc: He hadn't seen it.
936
:Marc: He was like you got to watch it, you got to
937
:Marc: watch it.
938
:Marc: We're going to talk again.
939
:Marc: I want to get your feedback, what you think
940
:Marc: about the.
941
:Marc: You know, yes, some things there's creative
942
:Marc: license taken, but the the show 24, but it
943
:Marc: was about your son having a, the son thing.
944
:Marc: I guess there's a through line.
945
:Marc: But I I am curious about the 24 thing.
946
:Marc: I've spoken with, I think two, um, I've
947
:Marc: spoken to folks who were on 24 that show.
948
:Marc: I don't think people realize who a little
949
:Marc: bit younger, how big 24 was for its time
950
:Marc: unbelievable.
951
:Shohreh: Unbelievable it was unbelievable.
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:Shohreh: We even had some problems with Iran.
953
:Shohreh: Some politicians in Iran spoke against 24,
954
:Shohreh: saying that where do they get these names
955
:Shohreh: from?
956
:Shohreh: I do remember there was a name involved.
957
:Shohreh: One of the terrorists' name was Mansouri
958
:Shohreh: and apparently there was one in Iran, and
959
:Shohreh: they were like where did they get their
960
:Shohreh: names from?
961
:Shohreh: Why are they trying to make us look bad?
962
:Shohreh: I remember they were very, very angry with
963
:Shohreh: it.
964
:Shohreh: But recently I heard that Gasem Soleimani,
965
:Shohreh: the general who was killed in Iraq, used to
966
:Shohreh: watch 24.
967
:Shohreh: Apparently he was a fan of 24.
968
:Shohreh: But most probably he realized while
969
:Shohreh: watching that this Mansourie is for real
970
:Shohreh: and who's given the US a tip that Mansourie
971
:Shohreh: is in charge of this.
972
:Shohreh: So yeah, 24 was huge.
973
:Shohreh: It has a cult in Japan.
974
:Marc: Yeah, still, you know, it's one of those
975
:Marc: shows that you watched.
976
:Marc: It was, you know, after 9-11.
977
:Shohreh: It came on right about the right time.
978
:Marc: People were thinking about terrorism being
979
:Marc: a thing and not.
980
:Marc: You know I've heard stories when they were
981
:Marc: filming.
982
:Marc: It was such a popular show it was kind of
983
:Marc: hard to get you know.
984
:Marc: Film on location.
985
:Shohreh: There's so many people wanting to come
986
:Shohreh: watch.
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:Shohreh: I am curious how did the 24 come to you?
988
:Shohreh: I received an offer for 24 and they only
989
:Shohreh: sent me the first two episodes.
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:Shohreh: I called my agent and I said I don't want
991
:Shohreh: to get myself involved with something that
992
:Shohreh: I have no idea how it is going to end.
993
:Shohreh: Especially if I'm going to portray a
994
:Shohreh: terrorist, I need to know what happens next.
995
:Shohreh: The answer was they're not going to tell
996
:Shohreh: you because they usually don't do that, and
997
:Shohreh: I passed on it.
998
:Shohreh: I said send my love and regards to them and
999
:Shohreh: tell them I cannot get myself involved with
:
00:41:50,733 --> 00:41:50,973
Shohreh: this.
:
00:41:51,954 --> 00:41:57,617
Shohreh: Then they asked me to go in in person so
:
00:41:57,657 --> 00:41:58,677
Shohreh: they can tell me the story.
:
00:41:58,777 --> 00:42:02,119
Shohreh: I went in, they told me the story and how
:
00:42:02,179 --> 00:42:04,240
Shohreh: it's going to end and I accepted it.
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00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:07,002
Marc: Which had to be difficult at that time to
:
00:42:07,082 --> 00:42:09,623
Marc: portray I mean in not a very savory way
:
00:42:09,663 --> 00:42:11,124
Marc: people from that part of the world.
:
00:42:12,204 --> 00:42:13,345
Marc: Did you ever get any?
:
00:42:13,745 --> 00:42:14,806
Marc: I don't see backlash.
:
00:42:14,826 --> 00:42:16,627
Marc: Did you get any people saying why are you
:
00:42:16,667 --> 00:42:18,107
Marc: portraying, why are you maintaining
:
00:42:18,147 --> 00:42:19,168
Marc: stereotypes or anything?
:
00:42:19,208 --> 00:42:20,309
Marc: Did you ever get any of that?
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00:42:22,731 --> 00:42:25,421
Shohreh: Oh my God, a lot of those, a lot of those.
:
00:42:25,461 --> 00:42:27,769
Shohreh: But the worst one of them all was Radio
:
00:42:27,789 --> 00:42:30,375
Shohreh: Iran, kirn 6, 70 AM.
:
00:42:30,856 --> 00:42:32,460
Shohreh: Every single morning, when I used to take
:
00:42:32,500 --> 00:42:35,613
Shohreh: my daughter to school, I used to listen to
:
00:42:35,794 --> 00:42:38,512
Shohreh: the news from Iran on this radio and all of
:
00:42:38,532 --> 00:42:43,542
Shohreh: a sudden it started talking about the 24
:
00:42:43,582 --> 00:42:44,724
Shohreh: that I'm playing a terrorist.
:
00:42:45,431 --> 00:42:46,837
Shohreh: And they received calls.
:
00:42:47,410 --> 00:42:49,337
Shohreh: The Iranians were saying that this is such
:
00:42:49,377 --> 00:42:50,060
Shohreh: a stereotype.
:
00:42:50,330 --> 00:42:52,736
Shohreh: She's making us look bad, blah, blah, blah,
:
00:42:52,756 --> 00:42:53,076
Shohreh: blah.
:
00:42:53,197 --> 00:42:54,881
Shohreh: To the point that I had to call them.
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00:42:55,950 --> 00:42:56,131
Shohreh: One day.
:
00:42:56,171 --> 00:42:57,959
Shohreh: I took my daughter to school, came back
:
00:42:58,019 --> 00:43:00,851
Shohreh: home, called them, asked them to put me on
:
00:43:00,951 --> 00:43:01,111
Shohreh: air.
:
00:43:01,212 --> 00:43:03,137
Shohreh: I said by law, you need to put me on air.
:
00:43:03,578 --> 00:43:04,981
Shohreh: You keep talking behind my back.
:
00:43:05,570 --> 00:43:06,091
Shohreh: Put me on air.
:
00:43:06,731 --> 00:43:07,152
Shohreh: They did.
:
00:43:07,232 --> 00:43:10,796
Shohreh: And I said first off, iranians, please do
:
00:43:11,377 --> 00:43:13,880
Shohreh: realize that I'm an actress, I'm an actor.
:
00:43:14,521 --> 00:43:17,284
Shohreh: The more multi-layered the character is,
:
00:43:17,344 --> 00:43:19,426
Shohreh: the more I want to portray the character.
:
00:43:33,110 --> 00:43:34,252
Shohreh: Stereotype is when there is a type out
:
00:43:34,272 --> 00:43:35,074
Shohreh: there and you are the stereo.
:
00:43:35,094 --> 00:43:35,815
Shohreh: There is no such type out there.
:
00:43:35,835 --> 00:43:38,380
Shohreh: I created this woman from zilch, from zero.
:
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,363
Shohreh: We don't even have one out there that I
:
00:43:40,424 --> 00:43:42,372
Shohreh: could take an example from.
:
00:43:43,453 --> 00:43:45,636
Shohreh: I created this woman, I created this
:
00:43:46,697 --> 00:43:50,542
Shohreh: character, the multi-layered character, the
:
00:43:50,582 --> 00:43:52,725
Shohreh: terrorist, who is a woman, who is a wife,
:
00:43:52,765 --> 00:43:57,235
Shohreh: who is a mother, who is, also, uh, believed
:
00:43:57,275 --> 00:43:59,699
Shohreh: so much in her, in her mission and what
:
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:00,721
Shohreh: she's supposed to do.
:
00:44:01,142 --> 00:44:03,471
Shohreh: So don't, don't do this to me.
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00:44:04,373 --> 00:44:05,977
Marc: And they stopped yeah, I think that's
:
00:44:06,017 --> 00:44:07,481
Marc: difficult for some folks to see the
:
00:44:07,581 --> 00:44:09,074
Marc: abstract that you know, I think some
:
00:44:09,114 --> 00:44:12,791
Marc: characters are so vibrant and their badness
:
00:44:12,932 --> 00:44:15,077
Marc: or whatever that, that people don't that
:
00:44:15,097 --> 00:44:16,721
Marc: think that they forget you're an actor.
:
00:44:17,142 --> 00:44:18,272
Marc: Maybe that's a good thing they forget
:
00:44:18,292 --> 00:44:21,238
Marc: you're acting, you know, maybe that's a
:
00:44:21,258 --> 00:44:23,731
Marc: good thing um, yeah, it reminds me of one
:
00:44:23,751 --> 00:44:25,298
Marc: of the first books I read on acting, like
:
00:44:25,318 --> 00:44:27,769
Marc: 25 years ago, michael cain's book acting in
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00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:28,030
Marc: film.
:
00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:29,613
Marc: It's a small book and he said something
:
00:44:29,633 --> 00:44:31,677
Marc: that it's always good if one of the PAs on
:
00:44:31,717 --> 00:44:33,100
Marc: a set walks over to you and you're
:
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,124
Marc: rehearsing with another character and they
:
00:44:35,170 --> 00:44:36,213
Marc: say, oh, I don't mean to interrupt your
:
00:44:36,233 --> 00:44:36,915
Marc: conversation.
:
00:44:37,437 --> 00:44:38,159
Marc: He said that's a good thing.
:
00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:39,432
Marc: If they come over and they say, hey, I
:
00:44:39,472 --> 00:44:41,157
Marc: don't mean to interrupt your rehearsal,
:
00:44:41,899 --> 00:44:45,694
Marc: that's not as good because they know you're
:
00:44:45,714 --> 00:44:45,874
Marc: acting.
:
00:44:45,894 --> 00:44:50,922
Marc: But the experience of acting in 24 it was
:
00:44:50,962 --> 00:44:52,624
Marc: it a fast-paced shooting schedule?
:
00:44:52,664 --> 00:44:54,853
Marc: Just because it's the show, is it like at a
:
00:44:54,893 --> 00:44:55,655
Marc: frenetic pace?
:
00:44:55,856 --> 00:44:57,039
Marc: I mean, for lack of better way of putting
:
00:44:57,079 --> 00:44:59,355
Marc: it, was it a fun show to shoot.
:
00:44:59,475 --> 00:45:01,983
Shohreh: it was a fun show to shoot because every
:
00:45:02,044 --> 00:45:04,892
Shohreh: single moment something new would happen in
:
00:45:04,932 --> 00:45:08,238
Shohreh: 24 hours thousand, more than thousand
:
00:45:08,358 --> 00:45:08,659
Shohreh: things.
:
00:45:09,701 --> 00:45:12,493
Shohreh: So it was pretty fun 12 hours a day.
:
00:45:13,110 --> 00:45:17,891
Shohreh: We started 6 am sharp until 6 pm, and
:
00:45:17,971 --> 00:45:20,719
Shohreh: producers, they were all on the same page.
:
00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:23,356
Shohreh: We have to go home have dinner with our
:
00:45:23,437 --> 00:45:25,093
Shohreh: family, so should you.
:
00:45:26,130 --> 00:45:27,877
Shohreh: No matter what, we would stop at seven,
:
00:45:28,410 --> 00:45:31,675
Shohreh: even if we went overtime 10 to seven.
:
00:45:32,319 --> 00:45:34,492
Shohreh: Everyone had to put whatever they had in
:
00:45:34,512 --> 00:45:35,877
Shohreh: their hands down and leave.
:
00:45:35,937 --> 00:45:37,001
Shohreh: Yeah, that's how.
:
00:45:37,161 --> 00:45:39,710
Marc: that's how dedicated is Nestor Serrano is
:
00:45:39,730 --> 00:45:41,736
Marc: one of my Facebook friends, you know, so I
:
00:45:41,836 --> 00:45:42,619
Marc: always want to have a bunch.
:
00:45:42,699 --> 00:45:45,608
Shohreh: I love Nestor, I love Nestor.
:
00:45:45,889 --> 00:45:47,934
Shohreh: I kept telling him you're one of my
:
00:45:48,135 --> 00:45:52,104
Shohreh: favorite favorite uh film husbands, you
:
00:45:52,124 --> 00:45:52,986
Shohreh: know uh.
:
00:45:53,127 --> 00:45:55,013
Shohreh: So husbands, you're my, you're my favorite,
:
00:45:55,033 --> 00:45:56,580
Shohreh: you're one of the best, you're the best,
:
00:45:56,620 --> 00:45:57,103
Shohreh: you're the best.
:
00:45:57,746 --> 00:46:00,152
Shohreh: And then when they decided to kill him and
:
00:46:00,192 --> 00:46:04,379
Shohreh: have me carry on with with the mission, he
:
00:46:04,419 --> 00:46:05,200
Shohreh: came in, he goes.
:
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:10,098
Marc: You loved me so much you had to kill me
:
00:46:11,043 --> 00:46:12,190
Marc: there was so much tension in that
:
00:46:12,290 --> 00:46:14,259
Marc: relationship because you knew the mission
:
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,008
Marc: but you know the relationship, the husband
:
00:46:16,048 --> 00:46:17,452
Marc: wife, but you're the mother first and
:
00:46:17,492 --> 00:46:18,094
Marc: foremost it was.
:
00:46:18,294 --> 00:46:19,678
Marc: It was such a like.
:
00:46:19,738 --> 00:46:20,380
Marc: It's one of those shows.
:
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:21,262
Marc: I've watched it.
:
00:46:22,112 --> 00:46:24,096
Marc: I watch it by myself, the whole series
:
00:46:24,156 --> 00:46:25,819
Marc: twice and at once with my kids.
:
00:46:26,541 --> 00:46:28,493
Marc: And during covid I mean we went through the
:
00:46:28,533 --> 00:46:30,038
Marc: whole lost series, we I don.
:
00:46:30,219 --> 00:46:32,186
Marc: It's probably unhealthy how many series we
:
00:46:32,246 --> 00:46:33,370
Marc: went through during COVID.
:
00:46:33,551 --> 00:46:37,080
Marc: But as far as your choices now, what you're
:
00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:39,074
Marc: looking to do because you've had iconic,
:
00:46:39,997 --> 00:46:42,271
Marc: very recognizable things you've done when
:
00:46:42,311 --> 00:46:43,676
Marc: you say, from this point forward, what kind
:
00:46:43,696 --> 00:46:44,439
Marc: of things are you looking for?
:
00:46:44,530 --> 00:46:46,094
Marc: What turns you on and grabs you, be it a
:
00:46:46,174 --> 00:46:49,342
Marc: film or TV or your decision-making process.
:
00:46:49,630 --> 00:46:52,531
Shohreh: From day one when I started acting, when I
:
00:46:52,591 --> 00:46:56,214
Shohreh: wanted to become an actor, was for the fact
:
00:46:56,254 --> 00:46:57,940
Shohreh: that I wanted to tell a story.
:
00:46:58,611 --> 00:46:59,917
Shohreh: I'm really a storyteller.
:
00:47:00,831 --> 00:47:03,758
Shohreh: It's the story that grabs me, no matter how
:
00:47:03,859 --> 00:47:06,433
Shohreh: small or big my role or my character's
:
00:47:06,974 --> 00:47:11,317
Shohreh: portrayal is in this film or that TV series.
:
00:47:13,051 --> 00:47:15,999
Shohreh: What's important to me is the story, if
:
00:47:16,039 --> 00:47:16,741
Shohreh: it's meaningful.
:
00:47:17,430 --> 00:47:20,318
Shohreh: With all due respect to all entertaining
:
00:47:20,599 --> 00:47:23,855
Shohreh: films and TV series, I watch them a lot and
:
00:47:24,397 --> 00:47:25,480
Shohreh: they make me feel good.
:
00:47:26,110 --> 00:47:28,281
Shohreh: But when I want to work, when I want to be
:
00:47:28,301 --> 00:47:31,354
Shohreh: a part of a movie or a film or a TV series,
:
00:47:31,475 --> 00:47:34,100
Shohreh: I would rather do something meaningful that
:
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,444
Shohreh: at least makes sense to my own self,
:
00:47:36,570 --> 00:47:39,138
Shohreh: because sometimes when I'm watching a movie
:
00:47:39,178 --> 00:47:42,695
Shohreh: or series, I realize that actor is running
:
00:47:42,755 --> 00:47:45,161
Shohreh: his line but does not really know what he's
:
00:47:45,181 --> 00:47:45,843
Shohreh: talking about.
:
00:47:46,691 --> 00:47:48,979
Shohreh: I want to know what I'm talking about.
:
00:47:49,450 --> 00:47:52,718
Shohreh: That's why I'm looking for which?
:
00:47:52,818 --> 00:47:57,053
Shohreh: Mostly it's independent films Our hands are
:
00:47:57,133 --> 00:48:00,460
Shohreh: open to go for as deep as possible.
:
00:48:00,541 --> 00:48:01,944
Shohreh: Go for meaningful films.
:
00:48:02,830 --> 00:48:07,577
Shohreh: But I'm looking for meaningful, somewhat
:
00:48:07,857 --> 00:48:13,565
Shohreh: entertaining or even bizarre films.
:
00:48:14,326 --> 00:48:16,850
Shohreh: I remember that Christopher Walken was
:
00:48:16,930 --> 00:48:20,481
Shohreh: given an interview and the interviewer
:
00:48:20,641 --> 00:48:23,931
Shohreh: asked him as to why he likes to play all
:
00:48:23,991 --> 00:48:28,377
Shohreh: these weirdos, weird characters, and he
:
00:48:28,417 --> 00:48:31,862
Shohreh: takes a pause, a long pause, looks into the
:
00:48:32,303 --> 00:48:36,274
Shohreh: interviewer's eyes and he says young man, I
:
00:48:36,334 --> 00:48:38,581
Shohreh: started acting when I was six years old.
:
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:41,119
Shohreh: Who would you like me to play now?
:
00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:45,358
Shohreh: The guy next door is absolutely right.
:
00:48:45,919 --> 00:48:48,043
Shohreh: We've been there, we've done that, we've
:
00:48:48,083 --> 00:48:51,114
Shohreh: tried it and now we're looking for
:
00:48:51,154 --> 00:48:53,079
Shohreh: something different.
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00:48:53,279 --> 00:48:55,593
Marc: Well, as far as different was the expanse,
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Marc: was that your first foray into sci-fi, like
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Marc: I mean outside of voiceover and outside
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Marc: like see?
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Shohreh: no, actually the first one was, was x-men,
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Shohreh: x-men, the last stand oh, okay, okay, yeah,
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Shohreh: who was I speaking with the other day?
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Marc: we were discussing, like how everybody
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Marc: wanted the expanse to continue.
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Marc: It's.
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Marc: You know, it's one of those shows that
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Marc: ended definitely on a high note.
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Marc: You know, like we were talking about it is
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Marc: something you can conceive of being a real
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Marc: progression of society and what would be
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Marc: like a couple hundred years or how far in
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Marc: the future it is.
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Marc: But just generally, what was your favorite
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Marc: aspect of playing that character, avasarala?
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Marc: What was it that you really, if you look
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Marc: back and go, this is what made it really
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Marc: worthwhile to play her.
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Shohreh: What really attracted me to her was the
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Shohreh: fact that she was this powerful, strong
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Shohreh: woman, highly educated politician who also
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Shohreh: had a soft spot for humanity.
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Shohreh: The mixture of them both made me because,
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Shohreh: although Margaret Thatcher is one of my
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Shohreh: favorite politicians of all times, but
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Shohreh: still I wish that she had that soft spot
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Shohreh: for for when, when, when, when, when the
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Shohreh: right time comes to use it.
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Shohreh: But she didn't.
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Shohreh: She didn't have that soft spot.
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Marc: And that's something that really was
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Marc: interesting the empathy that kind of grew
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Marc: over time and the relationships and the,
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Marc: even the I mean there was a point in time
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Marc: there was a lot of physicality.
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Marc: Oh my God.
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Marc: Yes, you know you're no longer in these
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Marc: beautiful gowns and all this you're, I
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Marc: think, one episode you're being, you're in
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Marc: the spacesuit.
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Shohreh: Spacesuit, spacesuit, spacesuit.
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Shohreh: My God, all the crew loved me in the space
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Shohreh: suit Soon as I walked onto the set,
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Shohreh: everyone, everybody is saying that, wow,
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Shohreh: where space suit from now on?
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Shohreh: This suits you so well.
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Shohreh: And I loved it because I was a bit
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Shohreh: uncomfortable Leaving sorry, you know
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Shohreh: traditional Indian dresses that nearly
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Shohreh: covers all your body and changing into a
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Shohreh: spacesuit that shows every fine line in
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Shohreh: your body.
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Marc: But when they said when they cheered and
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Marc: they said it suits you, my problem was
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Marc: solved.
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Marc: You're looking at that and I think you were
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Marc: at that last time I was trying to.
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Marc: It suits you, my problem was solved.
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Shohreh: You're looking at that and I think you were
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Shohreh: at that Last time I was trying to speak
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Shohreh: with you.
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Shohreh: I think you were filming Renfield, I think,
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Shohreh: renfield, renfield.
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Shohreh: Where did y'all shoot that?
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Shohreh: New Orleans, it's the best place that this
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Shohreh: movie could have been made.
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Shohreh: At my first day off, I went out to buy some
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Shohreh: souvenirs for my daughter and friends and
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Shohreh: guess what?
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Shohreh: I found a beautiful box with a rosary in it,
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Shohreh: small Bible and a small bottle of water.
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Shohreh: Perhaps it was to shoo away the devil.
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Shohreh: And I thought do people still believe in
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Shohreh: this?
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Shohreh: And the shopkeeper said yes, in the
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Shohreh: audience we do.
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Marc: And I said bravo, we had to make this film
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Marc: here because people do believe in it where
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Marc: were you staying and, uh, when you were
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Marc: there, because I actually I that's where
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Marc: most of the acting I did, actually it was.
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Marc: I'm from dallas originally, but I've lived
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Marc: there for like on and off for about 25
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Marc: years, and then my youngest daughter
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Marc: graduated high school.
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Marc: Now we're in South Padre Island, texas.
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Marc: I need to get the beach life going on, but
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Marc: New Orleans is.
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Marc: It's so funny because I lived in the
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Marc: suburbs.
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Marc: But you know, people don't know there's
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Marc: really it's got a bunch of little areas,
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Marc: little micro pockets.
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Marc: Yeah, exactly, um, where were you staying
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Marc: when you were down there four seasons?
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Shohreh: hotel, but the problem was that it's it's
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Shohreh: one of the best four seasons is obviously
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Shohreh: hotels are the best.
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Shohreh: First night I go to sleep I, because the
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Shohreh: call is at 6 am and I go and I go to bed at
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Shohreh: 10 pm and I do all the ceremonial stuff
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Shohreh: that I need to do before going to sleep.
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Shohreh: And I try to sleep and all of a sudden I
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Shohreh: hear, you know, the roll drums and then the
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Shohreh: songs and I'm like what the hell is going
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Shohreh: on?
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Shohreh: I call the concierge and they said, oh,
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Shohreh: it's Magadie, we are having a festival, and
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Shohreh: I'm like three nights of that and then one
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Shohreh: night was calm and then the night after
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Shohreh: again drum rolls and stuff.
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Shohreh: They're singing.
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Shohreh: What's going on?
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Shohreh: It's March Madness, oh my God.
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Shohreh: They're so close Every single night and
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Shohreh: every day I went out, people, thousands of
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Shohreh: them, crowded streets, bustling, you know,
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Shohreh: and people are having fun.
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Shohreh: They're drinking on the face of the streets,
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Shohreh: they're smoking and going up and down
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Shohreh: having fun and I'm thinking, do these
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Shohreh: people work at all?
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Shohreh: Because they party at night, they go, what
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Shohreh: do they do?
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Shohreh: What do they do?
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Shohreh: But I loved it.
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Marc: I loved, loved it.
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Marc: One of the greatest places in the world to
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Marc: go for a long weekend.
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Marc: But living there it's a whole different
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Marc: story.
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Marc: It will say love, hate, we'll put it like
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Marc: that, but the food is good, can't complain
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Marc: about the food at all.
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Marc: But didn't you, during COVID, didn't you do
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Marc: a food web series, a cooking show of some
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Marc: sort, correct?
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Shohreh: Yes, yes, I was working still during the
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Shohreh: COVID.
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Shohreh: We did season six during the COVID.
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Shohreh: I remember every single morning we had to
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Shohreh: go for a poke.
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Shohreh: And then I thought I told a friend of mine.
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Shohreh: I said if they had told us that one day you
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Shohreh: need to do this before you go to work,
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Shohreh: somebody has to put something in up your
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Shohreh: nose I would have said no, thank you, I'm
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Shohreh: not going to do this.
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Marc: Yeah, I can't tell you the amount of
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Marc: interviews I've done when, at least a
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Marc: couple of times, somebody said oh, hang on,
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Marc: I got to go to my door.
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Marc: Somebody showed up to their front door in
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Marc: LA to give them their COVID test for the
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Marc: day.
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Marc: It was so funny because that was like a
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Marc: regular feature on my show that I had to
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Marc: edit out.
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Marc: You know, your cooking thing you did on the
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Marc: web.
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Marc: Now, is that mostly?
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Marc: What kind of food were you cooking?
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Marc: Persian.
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Shohreh: It wasn't.
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Shohreh: I only did three because I didn't have time
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Shohreh: as much.
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Shohreh: I only did three All Persian food and
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Shohreh: mostly rice-based, because Americans have
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Shohreh: recently discovered rice and they're loving
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Shohreh: it.
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Shohreh: They started loving it I remember 30 years
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Shohreh: ago.
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Shohreh: Every time I put rice on my table for my
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Shohreh: American friends, they weren't very happy
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Shohreh: about it.
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Shohreh: They were more happy with chickens and, you
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Shohreh: know, kebabs and stuff.
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Shohreh: But now it's the rice that finishes first.
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Shohreh: So yeah, it was mostly rice-based.
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Marc: Well, that actually brings me to something
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Marc: I like to ask.
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Marc: I call it my seven questions, which is just
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Marc: a little extra fun I like to have, and I
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Marc: got to know.
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Marc: The first question I always like to ask my
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Marc: guests because I'm a food nerd, I love food,
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Marc: love cooking is what is your favorite
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Marc: comfort food?
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Marc: What is for you that thing?
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Marc: That's just.
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Marc: If you have an amazing day, you want it.
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Marc: If you've had a bad day, it makes you feel
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Marc: better.
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Marc: What is that food?
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Marc: Pasta, any kind of pasta.
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Marc: Yeah, I'd say that's a pretty high batting
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Marc: average.
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Marc: Most people like a pasta of some sort.
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Marc: I do have to ask, though, as far as Persian
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Marc: food, what is kind of the like an iconic?
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Marc: If you were to go and have Persian food,
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Marc: you gotta have.
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Marc: Like, if you say Greek food, souvlaki or
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Marc: pasticcio or whatever.
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Marc: But if I said Persian food, what is
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Marc: something that's on the Mount Rushmore of
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Marc: Persian food?
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Marc: You've gotta try.
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Shohreh: Something that my friends, my American
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Shohreh: friends, love, British and American gourmet
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Shohreh: sabzi.
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Shohreh: Gourmet is gourmet, Sabzi is vegetable.
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Shohreh: Gourmet sabzi means a celebration of all
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Shohreh: kind of vegetables, many kind of vegetables.
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Shohreh: Gourmet sabzi this is.
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Shohreh: I mean.
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Shohreh: Westerners love it.
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Shohreh: They love it.
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Shohreh: Where do you live?
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Shohreh: Maybe I can cook it for you.
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Shohreh: Where are you?
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Shohreh: Where do you live?
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Shohreh: Maybe I can cook it for you.
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Shohreh: Where are you, when do you live?
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Marc: That's so sweet.
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Marc: I'm actually on South Padre Island, texas,
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Marc: right at the very tip, just a matter of a
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Marc: few miles from Mexico, actually.
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Marc: So, no, I've been looking for my Jimmy
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Marc: Buffett lifestyle.
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Marc: God bless you.
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Marc: But that's so sweet, you know, maybe I
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Marc: could get a recipe from you.
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Marc: I love the challenge of new recipes, and
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Marc: then I always do them by the book at first,
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Marc: but I always play with it after that.
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Marc: I always kind of like put my little spin on
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Marc: it.
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Marc: You know, of course no matter what.
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Shohreh: Of course, it's really interesting.
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Shohreh: I keep learning myself.
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Shohreh: The other day I was trying to make a
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Shohreh: dessert which very much like Persian
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Shohreh: dessert and the instructions said that I
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Shohreh: had to put one and a half glass of sugar in
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Shohreh: it, which I did At the beginning.
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Shohreh: When I try to copy them, I go exactly what
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Shohreh: they tell me to do.
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Shohreh: I do that, but then I noticed it was too
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Shohreh: sweet.
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Shohreh: Next time I make it I would use only one
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Shohreh: cup of sugar, not one and a half cups.
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Shohreh: You're right, we need to have our own
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Shohreh: modifications, no matter what.
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Marc: It's improvisation, the way I look at it,
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Marc: when you're right, we need to have our own
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Marc: modifications, no matter what.
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Marc: It's improvisation in the way I look at it
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Marc: when you're cooking.
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Marc: That's the reason why I'm not a baker I
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Marc: can't do the baking thing because it's too
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Marc: reggie but I like the free form of just a
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Marc: little, this little, that One of the
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Marc: questions I had.
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Marc: The second question of my seven is if you
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Marc: could sit down with three people and talk
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Marc: story over coffee uh, living or not who
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Marc: would those three people be that you would
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Marc: love to sit down and have conversation and
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Marc: coffee for hours?
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Shohreh: um, check out, antoine, check off.
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Shohreh: This man had so much, so much to tell, and
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Shohreh: I love the way he looks at life, his
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Shohreh: stories are so human.
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Marc: It all kind of started with him, chekhov
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Marc: kind of started the whole Stanislavski,
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Marc: even Meisner.
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Shohreh: Yeah indeed, and what I love about him is
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Shohreh: that in his stories, everybody is innocent,
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Shohreh: but yet, at the same time, everybody could
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Shohreh: be blamed for their wrongdoings.
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Shohreh: Just in real life.
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Shohreh: They invented the Antoine Chacov and who
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Shohreh: else Sadhguru?
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Shohreh: Sadhguru is an Indian philosopher.
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Shohreh: I keep watching his clips, listening to his
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Shohreh: podcasts and I learn a lot from him.
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Marc: Okay, I think I might know who that is
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Marc: actually.
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Shohreh: Tell you who else here in Hollywood, he has
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Shohreh: a lot of fans, but the one who is very,
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Shohreh: very much all the time with him or tries to
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Shohreh: be with him is Will Smith.
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Shohreh: Oh, okay, okay, because of Will, he even
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Shohreh: came to Los Angeles to visit him.
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Shohreh: He rides a motorbike.
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Shohreh: He travels with a motorbike around the
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Shohreh: world.
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Shohreh: He's an amazing, amazing person, a
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Shohreh: philosopher.
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Shohreh: Philosophy of life.
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Shohreh: If you want to hear real, real stuff, uh,
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Shohreh: it's either him or uh rajnish, those two.
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Shohreh: But guru, sadguru is to me it's more
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Shohreh: relative I know who you're talking about.
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Marc: Yeah, he's, he's, he's uh, I want to say a
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Marc: young guy, but he's probably in his 60s,
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Marc: maybe so you know roughly yes, 65, 66.
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Shohreh: Yeah, he is okay.
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Shohreh: And the third person would definitely be
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Shohreh: tarkovsky.
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Shohreh: I never got to talk to him.
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Shohreh: I went to his uh, he had a uh, what was it?
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Shohreh: It was when I was studying back in London,
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Shohreh: it was I don't remember the college that he
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Shohreh: was giving a speech at, but I went to see
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Shohreh: him and everybody got to ask their
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Shohreh: questions.
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Shohreh: But as soon as I started asking questions,
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Shohreh: time was up.
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Shohreh: So I need to see him again and talk to him
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Shohreh: and ask him a couple of great questions
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Shohreh: that I have.
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Shohreh: So what about you?
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Shohreh: I'm dying to see the three, the three
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Shohreh: people that you would oh, you know it's.
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Marc: You're the first person I ever asked,
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Marc: because I?
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Marc: Uh, tuesday is, I'm taking my cup of coffee.
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Marc: Now I would love to talk to Sheree
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Marc: Agdashloo.
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Marc: Oh, I'm, I'm doing that.
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Marc: No, um, the?
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Marc: Uh, you know I was.
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Marc: I've always been a fan.
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Marc: When I when I worked on the radio in LA, I
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Marc: would.
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Marc: I lived in Encinitas, the North County of
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Marc: San Diego, and I would always do the same
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Marc: thing.
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Marc: I'd always go through In-N-Out Burger, get
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Marc: a chocolate shake and just head South and
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Marc: I'd always listen to Alan Watts.
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Marc: Uh, on a radio, I think Radio Pacifica.
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Marc: You know the philosopher, alan Watts, I
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c: think he died like roughly::
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Marc: He was kind of a pop culture philosopher,
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Marc: for lack of a better way of putting it.
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Marc: I would like, you know, I would love to sit
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Marc: down with my grandfather, who passed back
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Marc: about actually almost exactly 20 years ago.
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Marc: I'm just I'm just realizing that and just
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Marc: kind of catch up, bring them up to speed,
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Marc: because it's always when people, you know,
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Marc: it's one of those things about growing up
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Marc: you don't realize the questions you should
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Marc: ask until they're gone sometimes.
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Marc: You know those questions, those poor family,
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Marc: yes, yes, yes, but not just questions.
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Shohreh: Take pictures of them.
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Shohreh: Every time I think about the good moments
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Shohreh: that I had with them and I did not preserve
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Shohreh: it by either taking a picture or taking a
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Shohreh: note or something.
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Shohreh: Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.
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Shohreh: Okay, second one.
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Marc: But there's a following Nolan Ryan, who is
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Marc: the pitcher for the Texas Ranger.
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Marc: He's asking somebody you know, someone who
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Marc: has performed at the highest level you can
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Marc: reach, and those people that make it
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Marc: somehow seem effortless.
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Marc: Those are the interesting ones to speak
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Marc: with, because you know they're still
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Marc: putting in work.
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Marc: They just make it look effortless.
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Marc: Yes, the thinkers, you know.
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Marc: It's so funny.
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Marc: I was thinking about this the other day and
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Marc: now I can't think of the, of who it was I
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01:03:56,708 --> 01:03:58,633
Marc: was thinking of as I was putting this
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Marc: together, and I always ask this question
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Marc: it's the philosophers, the people who maybe
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Marc: give you, have you think a different way
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01:04:05,923 --> 01:04:07,568
Marc: than you have before, that kind of help you
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01:04:07,608 --> 01:04:10,789
Marc: grow and remind you, no matter your age,
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Marc: you can still grow.
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Marc: Yeah, no, no, those kinds of people are
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Marc: always fascinating.
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Marc: I gotta, I gotta think about that, cause I
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01:04:15,848 --> 01:04:16,951
Marc: always ask this question.
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Marc: Uh, I know my grandfather's always on there.
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Marc: Alan Watts and, of course, the sports thing.
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Marc: I'm going to have to think about that for a
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Marc: moment.
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Marc: I should be able to answer my own questions
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Marc: better.
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Marc: Um, but, uh, but the oh, thank you, thank
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Marc: you.
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Marc: The next question.
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Marc: And when you were young, who was your very
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Marc: first celebrity crush?
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Marc: You know someone you saw as like oh you
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Marc: know, they stole your heart, they
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Marc: captivated you, they had you intrigued.
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Marc: Who would that be?
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Marc: I would say Richard Burton.
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Marc: Richard Burton, oh, okay, of course.
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Marc: Well, that begs the question was there
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Marc: anybody that you ever in Iran, or you came
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Marc: over here that you would like?
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Marc: You just admired them and you just, you
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Marc: just adore them and you had the opportunity
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Marc: to work with them, besides Sir Ben Kingsley,
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Marc: of course.
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Marc: But was there anybody else you got a chance
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Marc: to work with and you were like you had been
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Marc: admiring them from afar for a long time of?
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Shohreh: course, first and foremost, is Sandra
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Shohreh: Bullock.
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Shohreh: Loved working with her when I came here.
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Shohreh: Uh, they kept referring to her as the girl
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Shohreh: next door and I was wondering what does it
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Shohreh: mean?
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Shohreh: She is the girl next.
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Shohreh: As soon as I started working with her, we
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Shohreh: were all the time together because she
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Shohreh: believes in interacting as well, because
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Shohreh: real actors do not believe in acting only.
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Shohreh: It's about although we call it acting, but
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Shohreh: it's about interacting.
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Shohreh: It takes two to tango.
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Shohreh: We are having a conversation here.
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Shohreh: I am not on my own.
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Shohreh: Therefore, you need to work with me.
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Shohreh: You need to give me something so I can give
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Shohreh: you something back.
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Marc: They say acting is reacting.
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Shohreh: Acting is reacting and she's the one I mean
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Shohreh: it's in her DNA.
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Shohreh: And also Keanu Reeves.
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Shohreh: Loved working with that gentleman.
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Shohreh: Loved working with him.
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Shohreh: It's unbelievable, incredible working with
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Shohreh: him.
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Marc: Yeah, well, you know that's actually to
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Marc: answer.
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Marc: He's on a short list, the three people to
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Marc: sit down with you.
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Marc: Look at the arc of his career but also the
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Marc: way he's chosen to live his life and he
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Marc: does have kind of an interesting way of
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Marc: living, by example and kind of his.
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Marc: You know, I never had a chance to work or
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Marc: meet, meet him, work with or meet him, but
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Marc: he seems like he'd be a wonderful person to
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Marc: sit down with and just kind of pick his
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Marc: brain.
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Shohreh: Um, incredible incredible, no matter what.
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Shohreh: Inside out, what I loved about him?
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Shohreh: Uh, obviously he's a star, but he doesn't
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Shohreh: consider himself as a star, he considers
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Shohreh: himself as a humble actor.
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Shohreh: I could say that from the way he behaves.
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Shohreh: He never dashed in with his entourage,
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Shohreh: never was late, always on time, if not
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Shohreh: early, never dashed out with his entourage,
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Shohreh: even during the change of lights.
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Shohreh: He would just grab a chair, take it to a
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Shohreh: corner, sit there, wait for the lights to
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Shohreh: change.
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Shohreh: He wouldn't just make a huge exit and he
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Shohreh: was just incredible to work with.
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Marc: You know you've had the opportunity to see
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Marc: some things.
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Marc: You know you said the huge exit.
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Marc: I've only been on a handful of sets but
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Marc: I've never seen the big exit before.
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Marc: I kind of want to be on a movie set now and
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Marc: see this big exit.
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Marc: I'm sure you've seen people who will remain
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Marc: nameless, but I didn't realize that was a
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Marc: thing to create a spectacle on your way out.
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Shohreh: I've seen a couple of those, and now I am
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Shohreh: leaving.
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Marc: With a flourish yes.
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Marc: Now the next question I've got for you is
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Marc: if you're going to be on an exotic island,
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Marc: somewhere that you actually want to be
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Marc: you're not a castaway, but there's no
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Marc: internet you can bring a CD of an album, a
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01:08:01,509 --> 01:08:02,532
Marc: DVD of a movie.
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Marc: So an album and a movie, something you can
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Marc: watch for a full year.
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Marc: You're going to be on an island for a year.
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Marc: What would that be?
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Marc: Something you could watch and listen to
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Marc: over and over again?
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Shohreh: Frank Sinatra.
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Shohreh: I did it my way.
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Shohreh: I can listen to that song for hours because
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Shohreh: I can relate to it really well.
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Shohreh: I did it my way.
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Shohreh: Indeed, you did yes.
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Shohreh: And for a movie that I can watch not
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Shohreh: year-round, but every couple of times a
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Shohreh: week.
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Shohreh: My Beautiful Life.
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Marc: Now real quick.
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Marc: I didn't ask you about your daughter.
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Marc: Little side note is she in acting as well,
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Marc: or is she in the industry, or she went a
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Marc: different direction?
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Shohreh: She's in the industry.
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Shohreh: She started directing at Chapman University
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Shohreh: and now she's doing minimal jobs.
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Shohreh: Of course, you know how long it takes for a
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Shohreh: female to become directors in Hollywood, so
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Shohreh: she's taking her sweet time.
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Shohreh: Yeah, she's making short films, inexpensive
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Shohreh: short films, music videos, whatever she can
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Shohreh: do to get there.
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Marc: It's got to be nice, though you know where
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Marc: you can compare notes.
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Marc: You know I don't think any of my kids are
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Marc: going to choose what I do you know anything
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Marc: remotely like that, but it's got to be kind
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Marc: of nice to be able to have.
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Marc: I'm assuming she lives in LA as well.
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Shohreh: She does.
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Shohreh: Yes, not with me, but yeah, she's in LA.
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Shohreh: Yes, to be honest with you, I didn't want
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Shohreh: my daughter, I didn't want to force her to
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Shohreh: follow up my life or do similar stuff that
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Shohreh: I did in life, but obviously daughters go
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Shohreh: after their mothers no matter what.
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Shohreh: So she was 16 when she said that she wanted
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Shohreh: to study directing and I told her my
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Shohreh: reasons.
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Shohreh: I said you won't have a life.
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Shohreh: You know that.
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Shohreh: You know how many times I missed your
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Shohreh: birthdays.
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Shohreh: You know how many times I missed going to
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Shohreh: the reunions with my parents.
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Shohreh: There's a lot that you have to sacrifice
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Shohreh: for.
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Marc: Plus, being a director, you're married to
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Marc: something for a full year at least, whereas
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Marc: actors, you know, got it easy you show up
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Marc: for your thing and you're done.
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Marc: Where directors, that's a marriage almost
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Marc: for a year.
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Marc: At least a year it is, it is no matter what.
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Marc: The next question I got for you if you were
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Marc: to define from the time you get up until
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Marc: the time you put your head on the pillow at
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Marc: night, if you were to define a perfect day
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Marc: you know the component parts, the things
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Marc: that make up a perfect day for you what
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Marc: would those things be?
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Shohreh: A perfect day If I'm not working, I'm at
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Shohreh: home.
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Shohreh: Perfect day for me is when nobody needs me.
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Shohreh: I'm not needed.
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Shohreh: I'm not supposed to be anywhere at a
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Shohreh: certain time.
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Marc: You know what.
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Marc: You're the first person to ever say that,
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Marc: but I feel that so much, Thank you.
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Marc: I'm going to remember that idea where you
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Marc: were not obligated to anything and you can
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Marc: just.
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Marc: Yes, I appreciate that Exactly.
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Shohreh: I can live my life.
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Shohreh: Have you ever noticed that while walking on
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Shohreh: a street, you see people who are walking
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Shohreh: towards a certain direction and then all of
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Shohreh: a sudden, they stop?
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Shohreh: They turn around and stop walking back
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Shohreh: backward uh, going back to where they were
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Shohreh: before and you wonder, my god, you are so
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Shohreh: lucky, you don't have to do anything,
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Shohreh: you're just wandering around exploring
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Shohreh: ideas, going up the street.
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Shohreh: Now, down the street is scrolling down.
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Shohreh: You have the luxury to do that, but I don't
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Shohreh: have the luxury.
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Shohreh: I have to be somewhere at 11, 30 am, no
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Shohreh: matter what, and I don't want to be but
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Shohreh: isn't that the most creative that you can
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Shohreh: be?
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Marc: I, I know I had a golden retriever who
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01:11:52,007 --> 01:11:53,656
Marc: actually passed about a year ago, and we
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01:11:53,696 --> 01:11:55,962
Marc: would go for walks and some of my best
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Marc: thinking ideas I'd come up with and just go
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Marc: for meandering.
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Marc: You know, no real plan.
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Shohreh: Yes.
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Marc: And that's kind of an analogy for kind of
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Marc: like.
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Marc: I find I'm the most creative when I'm not
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Marc: on the clock, when I don't have a you know
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Marc: a regimen.
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Marc: I can kind of daydream, if you will, of
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Marc: course, because you allow yourself.
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Shohreh: You allow yourself to sit down and pay
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Shohreh: attention to your thoughts, inner thoughts,
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Shohreh: what is going on.
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Shohreh: But when you're working, your attention is
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Shohreh: scattered.
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Shohreh: You're not able to do that.
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Shohreh: Obviously, we're far more creative when we
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01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,946
Shohreh: are on our own and we're not in a hurry,
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01:12:35,749 --> 01:12:38,557
Shohreh: we're not under pressure or stress and we
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01:12:38,598 --> 01:12:40,484
Shohreh: can freely explore ideas.
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Marc: Yeah, so the day starts for you with no
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01:12:43,192 --> 01:12:44,316
Marc: real obligations.
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Marc: What are you liking to fill your day with?
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Marc: Not fill your day, but what are those
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Marc: component things that are making it a great
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Marc: day for you?
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Marc: Besides not, you know, you can actually
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01:12:54,323 --> 01:12:56,167
Marc: turn your phone off if you want, you know
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Marc: and that that I am afraid I cannot do.
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Shohreh: Maybe none of us can do that, but, uh, an
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Shohreh: ideal day would be, uh, for me to walk.
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Shohreh: I I walk a lot here around our house.
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Shohreh: It's beautiful, it has really nice steps,
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01:13:14,270 --> 01:13:16,054
Shohreh: you know, up and down, up and down.
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Shohreh: It helps a lot, you know, when I start
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Shohreh: working and if the weather allows, I would
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Shohreh: love to swim.
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Shohreh: I'm a swimmer really like an hour a day, 45
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Shohreh: minutes a day, and I think that's the best,
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Shohreh: best, best thing that one can do for
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Shohreh: themselves, because when you swim from head
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Shohreh: to toe, you just try to, you know, move
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Shohreh: your body in every which way.
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Shohreh: And I could read a couple of pages of my
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Shohreh: favorite book that is next to my bed, or
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Shohreh: play solitaire, which I love, and that's my
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Shohreh: guilty pleasure.
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Marc: I'm getting a feeling you really appreciate
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Marc: your alone time, you appreciate being in
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Marc: your own bubble when you can be.
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Marc: I gather you appreciate that a lot because
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Marc: you are working so much that you do savor
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Marc: those moments.
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Shohreh: Maybe that's why.
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Shohreh: Maybe that's why because I work a lot when
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Shohreh: I'm alone, when I'm home, when I'm not
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Shohreh: doing anything, I try to savor as much as I
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Shohreh: can, and I usually do and I have a feeling
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Shohreh: that while you have a zest for life, I have
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Shohreh: a zest for life, no matter what.
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Shohreh: Whether I'm on the stage set or at home,
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Shohreh: you want to be kind of alert, pay attention
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Shohreh: to everything that is going on in your own
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Shohreh: small world and to be able to just sit down
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Shohreh: and discover and talk you know, explore
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Shohreh: ideas.
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Shohreh: It's a lot easier to do that rather than
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Shohreh: when you're working.
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Marc: Well, we're talking about those people that
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Marc: I would love to sit down with, and I
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Marc: mentioned alan watts and he I remember one
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Marc: of the things he talked about.
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Marc: He says if we're talking about living in
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Marc: the moment and how, how we don't do that,
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Marc: we're always planning for the next thing.
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Marc: He said, if you're always planning, you are
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Marc: never in this moment, and so that's one of
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Marc: those things I tried to, for myself, do is
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Marc: just kind of stop even the decision of
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Marc: living.
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Marc: You know, just taking a walk on the beach.
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Marc: It's like you push everything else to the
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Marc: side and you're just there.
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Marc: And you mentioned taking a walk and that's
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Marc: still one of my favorite things to do.
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Marc: I don't, you know, I got it which means I
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Marc: have to get another puppy or another dog,
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Marc: because without a dog, I don't walk nearly
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Marc: as much dog because without a dog I don't
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Marc: walk nearly as much you have to, you have
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Marc: to.
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Marc: The next question I got is if you weren't
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Marc: doing this, if this was not your career or
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Marc: vocation, what else could you see yourself?
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Shohreh: doing Teacher From day one.
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Shohreh: I wanted to be a teacher.
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Marc: Yeah, Anything in particular, that you
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Marc: would like to teach or discuss.
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Shohreh: Not necessarily.
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Shohreh: It depends on where I am, what I'm doing,
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Shohreh: what's necessary to teach, because I have
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Shohreh: this urge in me that whatever I have
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Shohreh: learned, I need to pass it on.
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Shohreh: I gave my first Farsi-speaking masterclass
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Shohreh: in Toronto last week and I always do it for
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Shohreh: free because I learned acting for free, and
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Shohreh: that's why I think it depends on who you
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Shohreh: are, where you are, uh, and you know kind
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Shohreh: of how you would like to be in life.
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Marc: Yeah, I think that probably evolves over
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Marc: time, based on what you've learned and what
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Marc: you know you can share and who you meet and
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Marc: who you think you can benefit from.
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Marc: Exactly because they swear they say about
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Marc: acting it's like everybody that I don't
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Marc: really.
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Marc: They say steals, you don't really steal.
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Marc: But it's all kind of a constant evolution.
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Marc: You know you're learning from others who
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Marc: learn from people before them.
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Shohreh: Oh my god if, when we get to that, we
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Shohreh: really have to mention that most of the
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Shohreh: Western literature is based on Bible.
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Shohreh: It's been inspired by Bible.
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Shohreh: Look at Inmar Bergman's works.
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Shohreh: They're all, each and every one of them is
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Shohreh: inspired by the Bible, so that is totally
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Shohreh: understandable.
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Shohreh: It doesn't matter.
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Shohreh: We learn from one another.
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Shohreh: We're not copying one another, we just
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Shohreh: learn from one another.
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Marc: Yeah, and Sherry, and I think that helps
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Marc: you to be a more empathetic person and
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Marc: appreciate the people around you.
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Shohreh: But it's just.
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Shohreh: You know small stuff that they don't teach
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Shohreh: you at universities, at colleges,
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Shohreh: universities at colleges, like, for example,
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Shohreh: in this Masterclass what I said to my
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Shohreh: pupils were the fact that acting, creating
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Shohreh: at the time of creation, all you need to do
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Shohreh: is to be honest with yourself, is to think
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Shohreh: thoroughly, is to go in and bring it from
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Shohreh: within.
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Shohreh: You cannot just pretend that you know the
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Shohreh: answer to the question you're asking
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Shohreh: yourself.
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Shohreh: Give yourself some time and then come up
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Shohreh: with.
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Shohreh: Then you can come up with something
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Shohreh: tangible, something that you can pass on.
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Shohreh: Pass on, Like, for example, I told him that
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Shohreh: staying in the moment all depends on
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Shohreh: listening and watching.
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Shohreh: We say I watched a movie and we say I saw a
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Shohreh: movie.
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Shohreh: When we say I saw, meaning that I didn't
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Shohreh: watch it.
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Shohreh: For example, I tell you, do you remember
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Shohreh: the scene where he slaps his wife and you
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Shohreh: say, nah, is there such a scene?
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Shohreh: I don't remember Because you weren't paying
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Shohreh: attention entirely to this.
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Marc: I think that's why a lot of people do say
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Marc: that going to the theater you really want
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Marc: to watch something because you're not at
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Marc: home distracted as much.
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Marc: So there's a zen to going to the theater as
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Marc: opposed to being at home and you're less
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Marc: distracted from other stuff.
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Shohreh: And you're less distracted from other stuff
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Shohreh: and you're really watching it.
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Shohreh: Yeah and again, if you're disciplined and
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Shohreh: if you have a lot of imagination at your
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Shohreh: disposal as actors have, no matter what you
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Shohreh: just sit down, watch television and you,
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Shohreh: you think that you are in, uh, in a cinema
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Shohreh: watching this, and everywhere is dark.
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Shohreh: That's the power of imagination that we
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Shohreh: have at our disposal.
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Marc: It's funny whenever we watch a movie, my
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Marc: son, he's the one that's like can we turn
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Marc: the lights off?
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Marc: You know he's like yeah that does create a
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Marc: focus.
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Marc: You know, yes, yes.
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Marc: Now, the last question I've got for you is
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Marc: if you were to jump back to the future, the
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Marc: DeLorean, and you go back in time to 16
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Marc: year old you you've got a few minutes with
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Marc: you what's a piece of advice that you would
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Marc: offer yourself to either put you on a
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Marc: better path or maybe make the moment you're
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Marc: in better in some way?
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Marc: But what would be that piece of advice that
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Marc: you'd like to offer yourself, 16 year old
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Marc: you?
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Shohreh: Be brave, but be careful.
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Shohreh: Be a strong, but don't be a stupid.
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Shohreh: Be understanding, but don't get yourself
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Shohreh: involved with people's stories.
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Shohreh: Try to understand them.
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Shohreh: Try not to get involved.
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Shohreh: Do not stop.
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Marc: I think that's what your 20s is for.
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Marc: Your 20s is a lesson to those things you
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Marc: just mentioned to really try and master
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Marc: that.
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Marc: Which I did with myself.
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Marc: Well, I think that's part of growing.
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Marc: I saw something the other day that, for a
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Marc: guy, if you don't look back on yourself in
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Marc: your early 20s and think what an idiot, you
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01:20:31,645 --> 01:20:32,408
Marc: haven't grown at all.
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Marc: I don't know how true that is.
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Marc: I have those intermittent cringe moments.
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01:20:37,105 --> 01:20:37,947
Marc: I'm like, did I do that?
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Marc: Did I say that, god, I was knucklehead Marc.
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Shohreh: I saw a clip.
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Shohreh: I saw a clip last night.
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Shohreh: It's a picture of a young man with his
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Shohreh: shirt open too much open with hair and
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Shohreh: stuff, stuff, and a medallion right here
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Shohreh: with a lot of hair, and the guy, who is now
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Shohreh: in his 60s, says antony.
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Shohreh: The caption said I wish I was, I wish this
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Shohreh: guy was still alive.
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Shohreh: I, I wish I could visit myself back then
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Shohreh: and give him a good slap for this style
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Shohreh: it's also the times you lived in.
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Marc: You know, like I know that it's so funny.
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Marc: My grandmother always said that she held on
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Marc: all of her fashions.
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Marc: She was my grandfather.
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Marc: You know women's fashions as well.
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Marc: You know he worked in that industry and she
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Marc: said if you hold on to it long enough, the
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01:21:26,107 --> 01:21:29,087
Marc: style comes back around she's right, she's
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Marc: right.
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Marc: I so adore you and I appreciate you taking
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Marc: time out to just spend some time with me
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Marc: today.
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Marc: That means so much to me.
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Marc: I know you're so busy.
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Marc: I wanted to connect with you over the last
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Marc: year and a half, I think, since I started
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Marc: this show, but I know you're fortunate in
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Marc: being so busy with fun work, so I'm very
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Marc: just elated for you.
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Marc: It's so ironic that we spoke Majority of my
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Marc: day spent doing voiceover and I know you do
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Marc: wonderful voiceover and characters and
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Marc: stuff we didn't have.
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Marc: Maybe, maybe for another day we'll have a
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Marc: chance to discuss that, but now you know I
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Marc: have a mission.
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Marc: I'm going to go try to find a good recipe
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Marc: for gourmet Sabzi.
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Marc: Is that how you?
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Shohreh: say it.
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Shohreh: Yes, gourmet sabzi.
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Shohreh: If you need anything, you have my email.
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Shohreh: Drop me an email, please, and I send you
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Shohreh: the ingredients.
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01:22:21,050 --> 01:22:23,112
Shohreh: I mean, I send you the recipe.
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Shohreh: There may not be certain kind of
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Shohreh: ingredients there, I can always post it for
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01:22:28,896 --> 01:22:31,358
Shohreh: you, but first let me send it to you.
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Marc: Sure, again, I appreciate your time.
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01:22:34,620 --> 01:22:36,566
Marc: I know you're very busy and I'm glad we
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Marc: finally have a chance to connect Me too.
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Marc: But have a wonderful day, enjoy a nice swim,
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01:22:43,044 --> 01:22:45,809
Marc: a cup of coffee or tea, and I look forward
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Marc: to catching up with you down the line Me
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Marc: too, Marc.
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Shohreh: You take care of yourself.
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Shohreh: My love and regards to the family.
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Marc: All right, there you go.
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Marc: The lovely, the talented Shoray Agadashloo
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Marc: Really enjoyed chatting with her.
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Marc: I've wanted to have Shoray on for some time
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Marc: and finally got a chance to sit down and
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Marc: chat with her, and it got a great recipe
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Marc: out of the deal.
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Marc: I mean, how can you go wrong?
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Marc: You know me love doing some cooking.
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