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Introduction Voiceover:
You are listening to Season Six of
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Future Ecologies.
Megaphone User:
So as traditional with Critical Mass,
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we usually have some brief announcements before we start.
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So if anyone has any brief announcements, come up to the
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microphone, then we'll do a safety talk, and then we'll
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ride!
Crowd:
[Cheering, honking]
Megaphone User:
I don't see anybody clamoring for the
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microphone-
Mendel Skulski:
Testing, testing. I'm Mendel
Adam Huggins:
and I'm Adam!
Mendel Skulski:
and this is the sound of Critical Mass here in
Mendel Skulski:
Vancouver. This tape is from 2009 but it's a tradition that
Mendel Skulski:
carries on somewhat regularly to this day, here and in cities all
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over the world.
Adam Huggins:
For the uninitiated, Critical Mass is a
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periodic occurrence where hundreds or even 1000s of
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cyclists gather to overwhelm city streets with their
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presence, all in a joyous protest for safer bicycle
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infrastructure.
Mendel Skulski:
This flash mob springs up, seemingly out of
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nowhere
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Coming out of the woodwork, as it were
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and just as quickly, ebbs away, vanishing
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until the next. So that's Critical Mass, but this is
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Critical Mast... with a T, as in masting. And what is masting? I
Mendel Skulski:
hear you ask.
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Andrew Hacket Pain: So this is actually quite a difficult
Mendel Skulski:
question to answer. Masting is quite a tricky topic to define.
Mendel Skulski:
So I think a relaxed definition of masting is useful, and it
Mendel Skulski:
helps us to incorporate the real diversity of characteristics or
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variation that come under this term. So masting kind of boils
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down to highly variable and synchronized seed production in
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perennial plants
Adam Huggins:
This is Andrew Hacket Pain.
Adam Huggins:
Andrew Hacket Pain: I'm a senior lecturer at the University of
Adam Huggins:
Liverpool in the United Kingdom. I work on forests generally, but
Adam Huggins:
in particular, I work on forest reproduction and on this strange
Adam Huggins:
phenomenon that we know as masting.
Adam Huggins:
In the simplest terms, masting is when a
Adam Huggins:
population of plants — typically, but not always, trees
Adam Huggins:
— all produce a huge crop of seeds at the same time.
Mendel Skulski:
In statistics, I think they call it a crap ton.
Adam Huggins:
Yeah, a crop ton.
Mendel Skulski:
Yeah, in a mast year we've got trees or other
Mendel Skulski:
plants dropping way more seeds than you would see on average.
Mendel Skulski:
Andrew Hacket Pain: So these are long lived plants, and they're
Mendel Skulski:
plants that, rather than reproducing regularly each year,
Mendel Skulski:
so producing an approximately constant seed crop each year,
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instead, they strongly vary their allocation to
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reproduction. In a very typical European masting species like
Mendel Skulski:
Fagus sylvatica, European beech, one of the most common broadleaf
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species in Europe, or actually, the numbers are very similar for
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Picea glauca, for white spruce in North America, a big tree in
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a very good year might produce half a million seeds. And that's
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not just individual trees deciding that this is the year
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to go big, but they do that in a synchronized way.
Mendel Skulski:
This isn't just one tree here and one tree
Mendel Skulski:
there. It's all the trees of a given species in a given area,
Mendel Skulski:
all masting at once.
Adam Huggins:
How big of an area, how many trees? Why? How
Mendel Skulski:
We're going to get into it. But first, I think
Mendel Skulski:
we should say a little bit about how this episode came to be. How
Mendel Skulski:
do you recall the germ of this story, Adam?
Adam Huggins:
Yeah. Critical Mast! This one... this one is a
Adam Huggins:
little bit of a blast from the past.
Mendel Skulski:
It was a long time ago!
Adam Huggins:
We were on a road trip together recording sounds
Adam Huggins:
for our first season, and we were just spitballing puns on
Adam Huggins:
ecology, I think, right,
Mendel Skulski:
yeah, I think this is literally the first time
Mendel Skulski:
we started from the title of an episode before we had anything
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else.
Mendel Skulski:
Yeah, the title came first before the story. But do you
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remember any of the other ones?
Mendel Skulski:
The only one that I can honestly remember is Galls to the Wall,
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which I think we should still do.
Adam Huggins:
Yeah, the ones that stick are the ones that we
Adam Huggins:
should still do. So Critical Mast stuck.
Mendel Skulski:
And then, you know, some years go by and we
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have another idea. Some might say... it's nuts.
Adam Huggins:
It's nuts!
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Basically, we thought to ourselves, wouldn't
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it be funny if a whole population of nature podcasts
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produced their own stories about masting, or inspired by masting,
Adam Huggins:
and then dropped them all at the same time!
Mendel Skulski:
So from Future Ecologies...
Adam Huggins:
and with supporting episodes from our
Adam Huggins:
friends at Outside/In, Nature's Archive, Golden State
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Naturalist, Jumpstart Nature, and Learning from Nature (the
Adam Huggins:
biomimicry podcast)...
Mendel Skulski:
this is Critical Mast
Introduction Voiceover:
Broadcasting from the unceded, shared and
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asserted territories of the Musqueam, Squamish, and
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Tsleil-Waututh, this is Future Ecologies – exploring the shape
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of our world through ecology, design, and sound.
Mendel Skulski:
Okay, just to drive it home, what is masting?
Walt Koenig:
So masting, as you probably already know at this
Walt Koenig:
point, is a population level phenomenon. An individual tree
Walt Koenig:
does not mast, a population of trees masts. So the problem when
Walt Koenig:
I started, and this was back about 40 years ago now, was that
Walt Koenig:
nobody had really seemed to pay much attention to defining or
Walt Koenig:
figuring out what a population was.
Mendel Skulski:
This is Walt Koenig, research zoologist
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emeritus at the University of California, Berkeley. And
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despite being one of the leading researchers into the mystery of
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masting, Walt is, by his own description, more of a bird
Mendel Skulski:
person.
Walt Koenig:
What can I say? Masting was just kind of a side
Walt Koenig:
thing. I spent most of my career studying acorn woodpeckers.
Walt Koenig:
Acorn woodpeckers, surprisingly enough, are highly dependent on
Walt Koenig:
acorns. They're famous for storing acorns in what we call
Walt Koenig:
granaries. They use trees, they drill hundreds to 1000s of
Walt Koenig:
little holes in them and stick acorns in them individually. And
Walt Koenig:
so it was clear early on that the birds were highly dependent
Walt Koenig:
on the acorn crop. And so we slowly got interested in trying
Walt Koenig:
to learn something about that. And now that I'm retired, it's
Walt Koenig:
kind of the better project, because I don't have to climb up
Walt Koenig:
to nests, and my wife doesn't want me falling out of a tree.
Walt Koenig:
So now, starting in another couple of days, I go around
Walt Koenig:
every year and count acorns around the state, which can be
Walt Koenig:
done on the ground.
Walt Koenig:
And one of the main questions that cropped up early on was how
Walt Koenig:
spatially synchronous the acorn crop is. So when it's a good
Walt Koenig:
crop here in Upper Carmel Valley, where I live now and
Walt Koenig:
where I did most of my research, does that mean it's a good crop
Walt Koenig:
up in the Bay Area? Does it mean it's a good crop up in the
Walt Koenig:
foothills of the Sierras? Nobody seemed to know the answer.
Walt Koenig:
Andrew Hacket Pain: So this scale of synchrony is really one
Walt Koenig:
of the most remarkable characteristics of masting, I
Walt Koenig:
think.
Adam Huggins:
I just want to underline here that this masting
Adam Huggins:
behavior shows up in all sorts of different plants and in a
Adam Huggins:
diversity of trees, Andrew's research tends to focus on
Adam Huggins:
European beech, while Walt is primarily interested in oaks and
Adam Huggins:
acorns, and there are a lot of different oaks in California.
Adam Huggins:
One of my favorite things about the place
Walt Koenig:
You've got Oregon oak, White oak, Blue oak, Coast
Walt Koenig:
live oak, Interior live oak, Black oak. What's that one in
Walt Koenig:
Southern California? Yeah, it's a Mexican species. It just makes
Walt Koenig:
it up, and we do the Santa Rosa plateau, which has them. And
Walt Koenig:
I'll think of it in, as I like to say, in between five minutes
Walt Koenig:
and 24 hours.
Adam Huggins:
That one is the Engelman oak, or Pasadena oak,
Adam Huggins:
with one of the smallest ranges of any species of oak in
Adam Huggins:
California,
Walt Koenig:
and each species has a different pattern.
Mendel Skulski:
Meaning, even just between these different
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species of oaks, a given year could be a mast year for some,
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but not for others. And the problem of this spatial
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synchrony remained central to the mystery.
Walt Koenig:
We spent several years trying to figure out what
Walt Koenig:
scale was appropriate. Started out, for example, by starting at
Walt Koenig:
the coast and counting acorns every 10 kilometers till we got
Walt Koenig:
inland. A ways, we did that for a few years, until it turned out
Walt Koenig:
that it was clear that that was too small a scale. And somewhere
Walt Koenig:
along the line, in the 1990s I had a postdoc who said we really
Walt Koenig:
needed to do this right, and doing it right basically meant
Walt Koenig:
spending a week or so driving around California looking at
Walt Koenig:
marked trees and doing a survey of the acorn crop at different
Walt Koenig:
sites around the state. We go to sites that are over 700
Walt Koenig:
kilometers apart, one end of the Central Valley to the other. And
Walt Koenig:
the question is, do they actually produce acorn
Walt Koenig:
synchronously or not?
Adam Huggins:
... we were kind of hoping you might answer that?
Walt Koenig:
Well, I'm glad you asked. It turns out that, okay,
Walt Koenig:
the way spatial synchrony almost basically always works is that
Walt Koenig:
sites that are closer together are unsurprisingly more
Walt Koenig:
synchronous than sites that are farther apart. And it turns out
Walt Koenig:
they are spatially synchronous over very large distances,
Walt Koenig:
hundreds of kilometers, and we're talking millions, if not
Walt Koenig:
10s or hundreds of millions of trees.
Walt Koenig:
Andrew Hacket Pain: Mast years in Denmark and in Central
Walt Koenig:
Europe, in Sweden, seem to happen generally in the same
Walt Koenig:
years. The pattern is not periodic. It's not strictly
Walt Koenig:
stochastic either. Because while I said there's no periodic
Walt Koenig:
pattern, there is one very important pattern, which is that
Walt Koenig:
we very, very rarely see consecutive years of high seed
Walt Koenig:
production. A year of very high seed production is almost always
Walt Koenig:
followed by a failure year. And it was quite common in the old
Walt Koenig:
literature for masting to be described as some kind of cyclic
Walt Koenig:
pattern. We're still kind of pushing back against this
Walt Koenig:
literature and the way that these ideas have seeded in. Oh,
Walt Koenig:
sorry, that was an accidental pun.
Mendel Skulski:
That's okay, and honestly, totally appropriate
Mendel Skulski:
for this episode. But myth busted!
Adam Huggins:
Yeah, mast production, as it turns out, is
Adam Huggins:
not like the cycles of cicadas or solar storms. We can't just
Adam Huggins:
count the years between mast years and call that a reliable
Adam Huggins:
pattern. And it's too bad, because we've been trying to
Adam Huggins:
figure out masting for a long, long time. Like Karl Marx wrote
Adam Huggins:
about mast production, didn't he?
Mendel Skulski:
[Laughing] Oh my god that's so bad.
Mendel Skulski:
Andrew Hacket Pain: Masting has been recognized for a really
Mendel Skulski:
long time. Really exceptional years of acorn production,
Mendel Skulski:
particularly in Europe, was, I think, noted by the Romans. But
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certainly by the medieval period in Europe, there's a lot of
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interest in masting in relation to acorns as a food source,
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particularly for pigs.
Walt Koenig:
People have been interested in the acorn crop for
Walt Koenig:
many hundreds of years because acorns provided a excellent food
Walt Koenig:
resource, particularly for their hogs. Back in the day, people
Walt Koenig:
spent a lot of time going out there, hitting trees, trying to
Walt Koenig:
knock down the acorns so that they could feed their hogs in
Walt Koenig:
various parts of the world.
Walt Koenig:
Andrew Hacket Pain: That's a process known as pannage. So
Walt Koenig:
when pigs are put into oak woodlands in particular to feed
Walt Koenig:
on the acorns, that was an important right and important
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within European legal systems in the medieval period.
Walt Koenig:
And Spain is an interesting case. of course.
Adam Huggins:
In Spain, spacious oak woodlands called dehesas are
Adam Huggins:
iconic for their pasture and their acorn fed Iberian ham,
Walt Koenig:
which is highly prized!
Adam Huggins:
Cue happy pigs in a Dehesa. And dear listener,
Adam Huggins:
just so you know how dedicated we are to getting you audio
Adam Huggins:
straight from the source, I spent a full day pedaling my ass
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up into the foothills of Spain outside of Sevilla on a janky
Adam Huggins:
old bike to get this particular soundscape, only to have the
Adam Huggins:
derailleur get sucked into the spokes and break off, leaving me
Adam Huggins:
stranded in the middle of nowhere on a Sunday.
Mendel Skulski:
So much for critical mass.
Adam Huggins:
I wish there were like 100 other people biking
Adam Huggins:
with me, because do you know what happens in rural areas in
Adam Huggins:
Spain on a Sunday, Mendel?
Mendel Skulski:
...What happens in rural areas in Spain on a
Mendel Skulski:
Sunday, Adam?
Adam Huggins:
A whole lot of nothing. We couldn't even
Adam Huggins:
hitchhike out of there. So I recorded this audio while
Adam Huggins:
waiting on the side of the road to be rescued by my own mother,
Adam Huggins:
who was also on vacation. Thanks, mom.
Mendel Skulski:
That's lucky.
Adam Huggins:
So you're welcome.
Mendel Skulski:
Yeah, whatever the results.
Adam Huggins:
Yeah, I guess it would be better if my sound was
Adam Huggins:
better. I'm sorry I did my best.
Mendel Skulski:
It was so high effort, for a very indistinct
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recording of some pigs
Adam Huggins:
and that, that that's us in a nutshell, Mendel,
Adam Huggins:
that's us in a nutshell. High effort...
Mendel Skulski:
indistinct results! Anyway, back to Walt.
Walt Koenig:
Those Dehesas are well tended, and I can't help
Walt Koenig:
but think that part of the reason that they do so well is
Walt Koenig:
that they've been paying attention to those trees for a
Walt Koenig:
long time and probably choosing trees, selecting trees that
Walt Koenig:
would produce acorns, produce acorns that are edible. I have a
Walt Koenig:
couple of Spanish colleagues who claim that when they get hungry
Walt Koenig:
out there, they can just pick off an acorn from one of those
Walt Koenig:
trees in Spain and eat the thing, which means not that they
Walt Koenig:
don't have tannins, but they do not have the kind of tannins
Walt Koenig:
that the Oaks here in California do.
Adam Huggins:
And according to a chapter that Walt contributed to
Adam Huggins:
an anthology, the oaks of the Spanish Dehesas may have been
Adam Huggins:
selectively cultivated, not only for their palatability, but also
Adam Huggins:
to make them mast less! Regularizing the annual acorn
Adam Huggins:
crop and making it more reliable for the ham economy.
Walt Koenig:
Oh, well, good for me. I made that up, of course,
Walt Koenig:
but my Spanish colleagues did not make me take it out. So I
Walt Koenig:
assume that there's at least some possibility it's true.
Mendel Skulski:
In any case, the point stands. People have had
Mendel Skulski:
plenty of motivation to notice these irregular bumper crops.
Walt Koenig:
So there are data sets that go way back for some
Walt Koenig:
of these species.
Walt Koenig:
Andrew Hacket Pain: German foresters in particular, were
Walt Koenig:
describing and making observations of masting in the
Walt Koenig:
17th century.
Walt Koenig:
Well, here in California, the famous use of
Walt Koenig:
all those acorns were the Native Americans. There are tribes in
Walt Koenig:
California which have been estimated to get half their
Walt Koenig:
calories from acorns. Now the amount of effort you would have
Walt Koenig:
to go to to collect, protect, and then process enough acorns
Walt Koenig:
to get half your calories, half your food out of those things is
Walt Koenig:
just mind boggling, but it was a critical resource.
Adam Huggins:
Was and is! Acorns continue to be an important
Adam Huggins:
cultural food for the indigenous peoples of California, which we
Adam Huggins:
will come back to in a future episode.
Walt Koenig:
Of course, that's why there are these grinding
Walt Koenig:
rocks everywhere in the foothills of California, because
Walt Koenig:
women spent a vast amount of time hanging out grinding these
Walt Koenig:
acorns up. And then they, of course, had to leach them,
Walt Koenig:
because here in California, they are completely inedible unless
Walt Koenig:
you leach the tannins out of them. But despite that, they've
Walt Koenig:
been an important food resource for humans here for a long time.
Mendel Skulski:
Shout out to another wonderful episode from
Mendel Skulski:
our friends at Outside/In if you want to know more about how this
Mendel Skulski:
traditional food is being revived before we eventually get
Mendel Skulski:
to it, cue up The Acorn — an Ohlone Love Story, from 2021
Adam Huggins:
But before you do that, there are more details of
Adam Huggins:
masting to cover. Because it turns out, they've been a hard
Adam Huggins:
nut to crack. It's only in recent decades that we've made
Adam Huggins:
real scientific progress.
Walt Koenig:
You know, like a lot of things that took a while
Walt Koenig:
before they started asking the kinds of evolutionary questions
Walt Koenig:
that we are now focused on.
Walt Koenig:
Andrew Hacket Pain: Yeah, so masting appears across the plant
Walt Koenig:
tree of life. It's very common in conifers. It's very common in
Walt Koenig:
angiosperms. The patterns associated with when masting
Walt Koenig:
appears in the tree of life, and when it doesn't appear in the
Walt Koenig:
Tree of Life, indicate that it's a strategy that has evolved
Walt Koenig:
multiple times over the evolution of plants. So it seems
Walt Koenig:
to be a strategy that that emerges and then perhaps when
Walt Koenig:
it's not beneficial, it disappears again and then can re
Walt Koenig:
emerge.
Adam Huggins:
So masting is a pattern that we see across plant
Adam Huggins:
evolution in different lineages arising independently, which
Adam Huggins:
means it's got to be a decent survival strategy. But remember
Adam Huggins:
that after cashing in all of their energy and resources on a
Adam Huggins:
mast year, plants almost always take the next year off.
Mendel Skulski:
Going from tons of seed to... nones of seed.
Mendel Skulski:
Andrew Hacket Pain: In a mast year, as much resource might be
Mendel Skulski:
allocated to reproduction (so the production of flowers and
Mendel Skulski:
the fruits and the seeds) as is allocated to tree growth, as
Mendel Skulski:
much as half of all of the resources allocated above ground
Mendel Skulski:
might be going into reproduction. And then in a non
Mendel Skulski:
mast year, they might produce zero. So it's a phenomenal
Mendel Skulski:
switching of resource allocation. These plants
Mendel Skulski:
actively miss opportunities for reproduction. So they have a
Mendel Skulski:
growing season, they have the opportunity to produce flowers
Mendel Skulski:
and fruits in that year, and yet they pass on that opportunity.
Mendel Skulski:
Which at first seems a little counterintuitive.
Mendel Skulski:
I mean, like after all, reproduction is kind of the name
Mendel Skulski:
of the evolutionary game. If masting comes at the cost of
Mendel Skulski:
taking a year long break, it's got to be worth it.
Adam Huggins:
But why? Spoiler alert, nobody knows for sure,
Adam Huggins:
but we have a few solid leads, a crop load of seeds, and we're
Adam Huggins:
about to get into the weeds. That's after the break.
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Mendel Skulski:
And we're back. I'm Mendel,
Adam Huggins:
I'm Adam, and today we are taking our own
Adam Huggins:
silly pun very seriously.
Mendel Skulski:
You might call it our masterpiece.
Adam Huggins:
Where we left off, we were just about to get into
Adam Huggins:
why masting, this strange behavior of synchronous seed
Adam Huggins:
superabundance, immediately followed by synchronous seed
Adam Huggins:
scarcity, has evolved time and time again, independently all
Adam Huggins:
across the plant kingdom.
Adam Huggins:
Andrew Hacket Pain: Now there are lots of reasons why masting
Adam Huggins:
might be beneficial to plants and why it might be selected for
Adam Huggins:
but it seems there are two main theories as to why masting is
Adam Huggins:
particularly beneficial under some circumstances.
Mendel Skulski:
Once again, we are joined by Andrew Hacket
Mendel Skulski:
Pain. And the first rationale for masting is that it makes it
Mendel Skulski:
easier for plants to get pollinated. Here's Walt Koenig.
Walt Koenig:
Oaks, for example, most of these masting species
Walt Koenig:
are not self pollinating. They have to be cross pollinated by
Walt Koenig:
other trees. So if you're producing flowers, you're
Walt Koenig:
dependent on pollen from some neighbor or some other tree down
Walt Koenig:
the ways. For true oaks, they're all wind pollinated. There's
Walt Koenig:
lots of pollen out there, but it is just floating around in the
Walt Koenig:
air in no particular direction, and the odds of any one pollen
Walt Koenig:
grain falling on a flower is probably strikingly low, even by
Walt Koenig:
astronomical standards.
Walt Koenig:
Andrew Hacket Pain: It's quite hard to get external pollen into
Walt Koenig:
your flowers. If you're for example, in the forest, they
Walt Koenig:
could just flower very intensely every year, but that has a
Walt Koenig:
pretty major resource cost and would lead to trade offs with,
Walt Koenig:
for example, growth.
Walt Koenig:
If trees sort of get together and decide, okay,
Walt Koenig:
this is going to be a good year. We're going to produce lots of
Walt Koenig:
flowers, female flowers, we're going to produce lots of
Walt Koenig:
catkins, male flowers, lots of pollen. And that's going to be
Walt Koenig:
much more efficient in terms of pollinating everybody, each
Walt Koenig:
other, including myself, than if we don't sort of do this
Walt Koenig:
synchronously.
Walt Koenig:
Andrew Hacket Pain: Years of very high seed production have
Walt Koenig:
higher pollination efficiency. More of the flowers overall are
Walt Koenig:
pollinated. And that's good from a plant's perspective, because
Walt Koenig:
producing a flower that doesn't result in a fruit is ultimately
Walt Koenig:
a waste of resources.
Adam Huggins:
Another factor here is that once you're a plant
Adam Huggins:
in a masting population, there's a pretty severe penalty to you
Adam Huggins:
if you don't play along.
Mendel Skulski:
Yeah, if you're the odd one out wasting lots of
Mendel Skulski:
pollen when everyone else is taking a break or failing to
Mendel Skulski:
capitalize on the mast hysteria, you're far less likely to pass
Mendel Skulski:
on your genes into the next generation.
Adam Huggins:
So masting, if you think about it, is kind of a
Adam Huggins:
snowball of selection pressure, and it just keeps rolling. The
Adam Huggins:
second rationale for masting is called the predator satiation
Adam Huggins:
hypothesis.
Walt Koenig:
Almost everybody agrees that predator satiation
Walt Koenig:
is probably often a major, if not the primary, factor,
Walt Koenig:
evolutionary factor driving masting behavior.
Walt Koenig:
Andrew Hacket Pain: So plant seeds generally are full of
Walt Koenig:
carbon and fats proteins. A side effect of that is that those
Walt Koenig:
same nutrients are usually a good source of food for mammals,
Walt Koenig:
insects and various other organisms which like to eat
Walt Koenig:
seeds.
Walt Koenig:
If trees just produce the same number of
Walt Koenig:
acorns every year, the predator populations would presumably end
Walt Koenig:
up reaching a point where they would eat most of those seeds
Walt Koenig:
every year by varying it a lot, from one year to the next. In a
Walt Koenig:
really bad year, they can cut those populations of predators
Walt Koenig:
down.
Walt Koenig:
Andrew Hacket Pain: And then one year or two years or some years
Walt Koenig:
later, when that predator population has been suppressed
Walt Koenig:
through starvation, the plants go all in. They produce bumper
Walt Koenig:
seed crops. And any of those seed predators that are still
Walt Koenig:
around? Well, they have a great year, but their population is so
Walt Koenig:
small and has been suppressed to be so small by the starvation
Walt Koenig:
year that a larger proportion of the seeds escape predation. And
Walt Koenig:
that can actually be remarkably effective.
Walt Koenig:
Here in California, we have a fairly intact predator
Walt Koenig:
populations. We have lots of band tailed pigeons. We got lots
Walt Koenig:
of acorn woodpeckers. We have lots of mice, we have lots of
Walt Koenig:
deer. We got lots of everything that loves eating acorns. But in
Walt Koenig:
most years, if you go out there, you will not see hardly any
Walt Koenig:
acorns on the ground. And if you do, they're usually going to be
Walt Koenig:
gone the next morning because some deer is going to come along
Walt Koenig:
and scarf it up, whereas in a really good acorn year, every so
Walt Koenig:
often, then you'll find acorns lying around on the ground,
Walt Koenig:
because there's just not enough animals out there to eat them
Walt Koenig:
all as hard as they may try.
Walt Koenig:
Andrew Hacket Pain: In the 1980s when masting patterns in
Walt Koenig:
European beach and UK were really strongly expressed,
Walt Koenig:
around 2% of seeds were lost to a specialist seed predator, a
Walt Koenig:
very boring little moth that lives in the canopy. I've
Walt Koenig:
studied them indirectly for a decade. I've never knowingly
Walt Koenig:
seen one, but their larvae feed on beach seeds. They leave a
Walt Koenig:
very characteristic drill hole in the seeds.
Mendel Skulski:
Underestimate this specialist seed predator,
Mendel Skulski:
the beech moth, at your own peril. It's known to be a weapon
Mendel Skulski:
of mast destruction.
Mendel Skulski:
Andrew Hacket Pain: In the 1980s when masting cycles were really
Mendel Skulski:
pronounced, overall seed predation losses to this
Mendel Skulski:
specialist moth were about 2%. In more recent decades, beech
Mendel Skulski:
masting patterns in the UK have changed. Masting has become
Mendel Skulski:
quite a lot less pronounced, or remarkably less pronounced. So
Mendel Skulski:
we don't have such strong failure years anymore. We kind
Mendel Skulski:
of have low ish years rather than zero years, and we don't
Mendel Skulski:
have super peak years anymore. We have kind of medium to high
Mendel Skulski:
years. The whole variability, year to year variability has
Mendel Skulski:
been dampened, and now losses to this seed predator have
Mendel Skulski:
exploded. It's more like 40% of seeds, of viable seeds are now
Mendel Skulski:
destroyed by the seed predator. So it's been a massive shift,
Mendel Skulski:
and it's a really alarming but effective natural experiment to
Mendel Skulski:
show just how effective masting can be at suppressing seed
Mendel Skulski:
predators.
Mendel Skulski:
You might be wondering, given how effective
Mendel Skulski:
it is at reducing seed predators, why would this
Mendel Skulski:
particular tree, European beech, not be masting like it used to?
Adam Huggins:
Nothing masts like it used to anymore.
Mendel Skulski:
[Laughing] oh my god... we'll get back to that a
Mendel Skulski:
little later. But first a wrinkle in the predator
Mendel Skulski:
satiation theory.
Walt Koenig:
One of the contradictory things about oaks
Walt Koenig:
and acorns is that the oaks are producing acorns. The acorns are
Walt Koenig:
how they reproduce, and they want to have a lot of them out
Walt Koenig:
there. And in order to have a lot of them out there, they have
Walt Koenig:
to evade the predators. And this is countered by the fact that
Walt Koenig:
their main dispersers are also some of those predators. The
Walt Koenig:
obvious examples being the Scrub jays and the Stellar jays out
Walt Koenig:
there, because they're the ones that are picking those acorns
Walt Koenig:
and then sticking them in the ground in various places, moving
Walt Koenig:
them uphill even. There's a famous uphill planters paper
Walt Koenig:
written by Joseph Grinnell back in the day. How do oaks disperse
Walt Koenig:
uphills? Well, you know, you get those acorns picked by a Scrub
Walt Koenig:
jay, and they fly uphill to their territory and stick it in
Walt Koenig:
the ground, and there you go.
Walt Koenig:
So they can't do too good a job at, you know, getting rid of all
Walt Koenig:
those predators. I always think of them as kind of half assed
Walt Koenig:
masters. This gets back to a issue with Acorn woodpeckers, if
Walt Koenig:
you don't mind for a minute, which is that they tend to be
Walt Koenig:
restricted to areas that have at least two species of oaks,
Walt Koenig:
presumably, because when you only have one species, it's
Walt Koenig:
going to fail every couple three, four years and. And the
Walt Koenig:
populations of the birds are going to be in trouble. Whereas
Walt Koenig:
when you have two species, they are not likely to be strongly
Walt Koenig:
correlated with each other, and so the odds of both of them
Walt Koenig:
failing in the same year is going to be reduced
Walt Koenig:
significantly. And the more species you have, the lower the
Walt Koenig:
probability that all of them are going to have a bad year in the
Walt Koenig:
same time.
Adam Huggins:
So now we come to the big question, how do plants
Adam Huggins:
do this? The evolutionary benefits of masting rely on
Adam Huggins:
coordination between individuals. So how do all of
Adam Huggins:
the trees of a particular species across a vast region,
Adam Huggins:
sometimes their entire range, synchronize their seed
Adam Huggins:
production.
Mendel Skulski:
Could it be a conspiracy of the fungi?
Mendel Skulski:
Relaying the signal from root to root across their mycelial fiber
Mendel Skulski:
optics?
Walt Koenig:
Okay, so trees may very well communicate over short
Walt Koenig:
distances. You know, groups of trees that are within the same
Walt Koenig:
little meadow or something may communicate in various ways
Walt Koenig:
through their roots or whatever, but they are not doing this over
Walt Koenig:
distances of 10s or hundreds of kilometers. So that's not likely
Walt Koenig:
to be a factor which is really driving the kind of synchrony
Walt Koenig:
that we see.
Walt Koenig:
Andrew Hacket Pain: I think, a good example of how below ground
Walt Koenig:
communication can't explain the patterns of masting that we see
Walt Koenig:
would be something as simple as to see how strongly masting is
Walt Koenig:
synchronized on either side of the English Channel in Europe.
Walt Koenig:
So if you are in the south of England, your masting patterns
Walt Koenig:
will be almost identical to the populations of beech or oak in
Walt Koenig:
northern France. And I don't think anyone is suggesting that
Walt Koenig:
there are mycorrhizal networks that extend under the English
Walt Koenig:
Channel and connect the United Kingdom with Europe.
Adam Huggins:
I mean, at least not since Brexit. Am I right?
Adam Huggins:
Andrew Hacket Pain: So, sorry to disappoint you.
Mendel Skulski:
I guess just because it's not mushrooms
Mendel Skulski:
doesn't mean it's not cool.
Adam Huggins:
I'm proud of you for saying so. So what is the
Adam Huggins:
most parsimonious explanation? Drumroll please.
Walt Koenig:
It turns out that if you look at weather, so
Walt Koenig:
rainfall, temperature, which are sort of the two main things that
Walt Koenig:
there are data on, if nothing else, they are also highly
Walt Koenig:
spatially synchronous over distances of hundreds, in some
Walt Koenig:
cases, 1000s or more kilometers, basically everywhere in the
Walt Koenig:
World. So there is no problem having rainfall or temperature
Walt Koenig:
having effects, which is what the trees are all sensitive to,
Walt Koenig:
and that is by far the most likely factor which is going to
Walt Koenig:
be synchronizing these trees.
Walt Koenig:
Andrew Hacket Pain: So what's happening here is that plants
Walt Koenig:
are responding to variations in their environment, and in
Walt Koenig:
relation to masting, there, I think two main sources of of
Walt Koenig:
what we might think of as information that they're
Walt Koenig:
responding to. So one is weather variability, photo period as
Walt Koenig:
well, so day length. That's also something that's important. It
Walt Koenig:
helps them to work out when they should be responding to
Walt Koenig:
temperature. There may also be some influences with radiation
Walt Koenig:
as well.
Walt Koenig:
The second source of information is their own internal plant
Walt Koenig:
reserves and their own internal signaling. They're not going to
Walt Koenig:
invest heavily in seed production when their internal
Walt Koenig:
reserves are depleted, either because they simply don't have
Walt Koenig:
the reserves to fuel a super peak year, or because doing that
Walt Koenig:
might deplete their reserves dangerously and lead to trade
Walt Koenig:
offs, for example, with mortality. And so it may be that
Walt Koenig:
this ecological synchrony in terms of masting, is a kind of
Walt Koenig:
emergent property, something that just happens as a
Walt Koenig:
consequence of processes that are happening at local scales
Walt Koenig:
that are regulated by temperature, and temperature
Walt Koenig:
just happens to be spatially synchronized at scales of up to
Walt Koenig:
hundreds of kilometers. We just don't really know at the moment,
Walt Koenig:
it's one of the open questions as to whether that large scale
Walt Koenig:
spatial synchrony has any kind of adaptive benefit for the
Walt Koenig:
trees, or if it's just a kind of thing that emerges.
Mendel Skulski:
So there is still lots of mystery. Each
Mendel Skulski:
masting species appears to be listening for a different set of
Mendel Skulski:
signals. For some, it's wet, winter weather. For others, it's
Mendel Skulski:
dry, and plenty more we just don't know!
Walt Koenig:
For the most part, we really have very little idea
Walt Koenig:
why weather correlates with the acorn crop of any of these
Walt Koenig:
species,
Adam Huggins:
And when your research subject is synonymous
Adam Huggins:
with age itself, the venerable oak or the ancient beech tree,
Adam Huggins:
it becomes increasingly important that your data look
Adam Huggins:
back further than just a single scientific career to tackle that
Adam Huggins:
problem, Andrew and his colleague Davide Ascoli took on
Adam Huggins:
an immense project, called MASTREE
Adam Huggins:
Andrew Hacket Pain: Where we focused on European beech and
Adam Huggins:
Norway spruce. That was kind of our first step into compiling
Adam Huggins:
masting records. We were delving into the literature, contacting
Adam Huggins:
foresters and other forest researchers across Europe,
Adam Huggins:
diving into some pretty old archives right back from the
Adam Huggins:
17th, 18th, 19th century, and pulling out records, harvest
Adam Huggins:
records, seed harvest records, all sorts of observations, and
Adam Huggins:
compiling them into one big database for those two species.
Adam Huggins:
And then few years ago, we got some funding to ambitiously
Adam Huggins:
expand that project into MASTREE+ which, rather than
Adam Huggins:
focusing on two species had the ambitious aim of trying to
Adam Huggins:
compile everything we could anywhere for any perennial plant
Adam Huggins:
species
Mendel Skulski:
Enter MASTREE+, an enormous Open Access
Mendel Skulski:
database, currently containing over 80,000 geo referenced
Mendel Skulski:
observations from 974 species of perennial plants in 66 countries
Mendel Skulski:
organized into nearly 6000 time series dating back as far as the
Mendel Skulski:
year 1677
Adam Huggins:
Enabling scientists like Andrew and Walt
Adam Huggins:
to turn back time and go beyond the question of the year to year
Adam Huggins:
weather to get at that of the climate.
Adam Huggins:
Andrew Hacket Pain: I think the impact of climate change on
Adam Huggins:
masting has become one of the priority questions in the field.
Adam Huggins:
To see how it's changing over time, you need decades and
Adam Huggins:
decades of data. So in beach, mast years typically follow, in
Adam Huggins:
fact, very strongly, follow years of high temperature, high
Adam Huggins:
summer temperatures. What's happened in the last few
Adam Huggins:
decades, as the climate has warmed very rapidly, is that
Adam Huggins:
these years of high summer temperatures are happening much,
Adam Huggins:
much more regularly. So an imperfect analogy is that the
Adam Huggins:
trigger of the gun is now being pulled so regularly that the gun
Adam Huggins:
hasn't always had time to be reloaded. The queues are
Adam Huggins:
happening so frequently. Sometimes every year, every
Adam Huggins:
couple of years, the beech has not been able to replenish the
Adam Huggins:
resources. Or some individuals have others haven't. Some have
Adam Huggins:
partially. But it seems like some species are more resilient
Adam Huggins:
to climate warming than others. This, again, is something that's
Adam Huggins:
very much at the frontier of what we know, and that's
Adam Huggins:
probably because different species have very slightly
Adam Huggins:
different, or in some cases very different ways of regulating
Adam Huggins:
year to year variability in seed production. And so some species,
Adam Huggins:
like beech might have a particular mechanism which just
Adam Huggins:
happens to be really sensitive to climate change. Other species
Adam Huggins:
might have mechanisms which are not so sensitive.
Mendel Skulski:
So of course, climate change is starting to
Mendel Skulski:
affect mast seeding, and in the case of European beech, it's a
Mendel Skulski:
big problem since its primary seed predator
Adam Huggins:
the voracious beech moth
Mendel Skulski:
has gone from stochastic famine to prefix, you
Mendel Skulski:
know, three square meals a day and the brood to match.
Adam Huggins:
But as we know, different masting species have
Adam Huggins:
wildly varying trigger signals. So just as with climate change,
Adam Huggins:
you can imagine, every plant and every place will be its own
Adam Huggins:
story.
Mendel Skulski:
A story about more than an individual, more
Mendel Skulski:
than a population of trees, but of ripples moving outward
Mendel Skulski:
through an ecosystem
Adam Huggins:
With all of their downstream effects, big and
Adam Huggins:
small.
Mendel Skulski:
Rippling into acorn woodpeckers
Adam Huggins:
and ground nesting birds
Mendel Skulski:
Into mice and squirrels.
Adam Huggins:
Deer
Mendel Skulski:
and ticks
Adam Huggins:
and Lyme disease.
Mendel Skulski:
There are like, whole species of bamboo that
Mendel Skulski:
flower all together all over the world and then immediately die,
Mendel Skulski:
the ultimate mast.
Adam Huggins:
Yeah, a kind of mast suicide. And then you've
Adam Huggins:
got broods of cicadas that sap trees of their energy
Mendel Skulski:
literally
Adam Huggins:
to the point where they might not even have enough
Adam Huggins:
to spare to mast when they otherwise would. Masting has all
Adam Huggins:
of these cascading ecological implications, many of them
Adam Huggins:
unknown or under explored. And so we thought it was appropriate
Adam Huggins:
to drop a whole bunch of examples at once here at the end
Adam Huggins:
of the episode.
Mendel Skulski:
Especially because if you're hungry for
Mendel Skulski:
even more stories about masting, our friends at all of these
Mendel Skulski:
wonderful podcasts have made their own episodes for you to
Mendel Skulski:
enjoy. Thanks again to Golden State Naturalist, Jumpstart
Mendel Skulski:
Nature, Learning From Nature, Nature's Archive and Outside/In.
Adam Huggins:
Thank you for joining us on this wildly zany
Adam Huggins:
experiment.
Mendel Skulski:
We've got links in the show notes.
Adam Huggins:
And to put the cap on this little acorn, I want to
Adam Huggins:
reflect for a moment on where we are right now, not to draw too
Adam Huggins:
direct a line from this biological epiphenomenon to our
Adam Huggins:
sort of muddled human lives. But in my early 20s, I took a
Adam Huggins:
permaculture course delivered by a remarkable woman named
Adam Huggins:
Starhawk, and she had just written a book at that time
Adam Huggins:
called The Earth Path. And in that book, she was exploring
Adam Huggins:
natural patterns, right patterns and processes that we find in
Adam Huggins:
nature to learn what they can offer us for our social
Adam Huggins:
movements, not just teach us about how to engineer widgets
Adam Huggins:
right or how to design our architecture, but about how we
Adam Huggins:
organize ourselves, especially for change. And I've been
Adam Huggins:
thinking about masting in this respect, because I, like a lot
Adam Huggins:
of people right now, am feeling a little depleted.
Mendel Skulski:
No kidding!
Adam Huggins:
And I have this feeling that that there really
Adam Huggins:
is a need for, you know, a kind of mast movement, for lack of a
Adam Huggins:
better word. And there's something about these plants,
Adam Huggins:
right, their ability to coordinate action on a massive
Adam Huggins:
continental, intercontinental sometimes, scale, without direct
Adam Huggins:
communication, right, without passing information back and
Adam Huggins:
forth, but just because they are all responding together to
Adam Huggins:
signals that they all recognize. I think there's something to
Adam Huggins:
glean there.
Mendel Skulski:
I mean, like, Critical Mass is kind of the
Mendel Skulski:
perfect example, right, right, right. Like on our own, we're
Mendel Skulski:
just singular grains of pollen with impossible odds of actually
Mendel Skulski:
making a change. We're scattered aimlessly on the wind and on any
Mendel Skulski:
normal day, bikes don't really stand a chance against the car
Mendel Skulski:
hegemony. But then when enough people tuned in to the right
Mendel Skulski:
signals, you know, they come together and they're undeniable.
Mendel Skulski:
And they can change the whole landscape.
Mendel Skulski:
So yeah, I guess, as another author, Robin Wall Kimmerer
Mendel Skulski:
reminds us, in the context of masting, all flourishing is
Mendel Skulski:
mutual.
Mendel Skulski:
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Mendel Skulski:
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Mendel Skulski:
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Mendel Skulski:
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