How can we transform the national conversation around what it means to live longer better lives? How do we avoid drowning in nuance when trying to understand complex systems? What does it take to relentlessly pursue a single issue in order to bring about change? And how can you build a coalition to bring others on board?

Join Peter Barker in conversation with Catherine Foot, the Director of Phoenix Insights - a think tank set up to transform the way society responds to the possibilities of longer lives.

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📕 This week's recommendations are 'Influence' by Adam Stones and 'What We Owe Each Other: A New Social Contract' by Minouche Shafik

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