In this episode of The Missing Secret Podcast, John shared some startling facts about health and longevity. John says most people are fundamentally UNENLIGHTENED about their health. And admits that he was to, until about two years ago. Even though he was working out six times a week and eating well. But he was still unenlightened about medicine 3.0. Prevention and longevity.
In this episode John talks about some key things that people typically don’t know. As an example, with cancer there has been no decrease in cancer in the last 20 years. And once a cancer gets out of the organ it starts in, your life expectancy is two and half years. That’s why early detection is so important. Additionally, being overweight and having high A1c substantially increases your likelihood of getting cancer.
Then John talks about Alzheimer’s. If you have the Alzheimer’s gene, and 15% of people do, you have a substantially higher risk of getting Alzheimer’s. And if you have high A1c and are substantially overweight, you are at the same level of risk of getting Alzheimer’s that people that have the gene are.
Then John goes on to talk about longevity. The number one factor in longevity is your cardio fitness as measured by your VO2 max. Number two factor in longevity is strength. In talking about medicine 3.0, it’s all about prevention. The foundation is getting your blood tested each quarter, then it’s reviewed by Dr., who then prescribes peptides and supplements to rectify the things you are deficient in.
And the final thing that John points out is that according to Dr. Peter Attia, who just appeared on 60 minutes as the preeminent authority on health optimization in longevity, he says that when you turn 75, from a health standpoint, you literally fall off a cliff. You will see a 50% decline in the next 10 years or so in your cognition in your physical capabilities. If you do nothing. But if you’re properly enlightened and do the proper type of exercise that takes no longer than 30 minutes a day, you can add 10 to 15 years of healthy living to your life.
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About the Hosts:
John Mitchell
John’s story is pretty amazing. After spending 20 years as an entrepreneur, John was 50 years old but wasn’t as successful as he thought he should be. To rectify that, he decided to find the “top book in the world” on SUCCESS and apply that book literally Word for Word to his life. That Book is Think & Grow Rich. The book says there’s a SECRET for success, but the author only gives you half the secret. John figured out the full secret and a 12 minute a day technique to apply it.
When John applied his 12 minute a day technique to his life, he saw his yearly income go to over $5 million a year, after 20 years of $200k - 300k per year. The 25 times increase happened because John LEVERAGED himself by applying science to his life.
His daily technique works because it focuses you ONLY on what moves the needle, triples your discipline, and consistently generates new business ideas every week. This happens because of 3 key aspects of the leveraging process.
John’s technique was profiled on the cover of Time Magazine. He teaches it at the University of Texas’ McCombs School of Business, which is one the TOP 5 business schools in the country. He is also the “mental coach” for the head athletic coaches at the University of Texas as well.
Kelly Hatfield is an entrepreneur at heart. She believes wholeheartedly in the power of the ripple effect and has built several successful companies aimed at helping others make a greater impact in their businesses and lives.
She has been in the recruiting, HR, and leadership development space for over 25 years and loves serving others. Kelly, along with her amazing business partners and teams, has built four successful businesses aimed at matching exceptional talent with top organizations and developing their leadership. Her work coaching and consulting with companies to develop their leadership teams, design recruiting and retention strategies, AND her work as host of Absolute Advantage podcast (where she talks with successful entrepreneurs, executives, and thought leaders across a variety of industries), give her a unique perspective covering the hiring experience and leadership from all angles.
As a Partner in her most recent venture, Think It Be It, Kelly has made the natural transition into the success and human achievement field, helping entrepreneurs break through to the next level in their businesses. Further expanding the impact she’s making in this world. Truly living into the power of the ripple effect.
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Kelly Hatfield:
Welcome to The Missing Secret Podcast. I'm Kelly Hatfield,
John Mitchell:
Hey, and I'm John Mitchell. So our topic today is startling facts about your health regarding longevity. Now, Kelly, I know health is a big deal to you in it.
Kelly Hatfield:
Oh, it's huge, yeah, for me, like, and I know this is a cliche, saying that like, health is wealth, and I mean every aspect of your life, the quality of how you how you live your life, is directly connected to your health, right, right? For me,
John Mitchell:
Well, I have the belief that most people are fundamentally unenlightened about their health. And I say that because I was unenlightened about my own health a couple of years ago. And keep in mind, I was working out six times a week. I was eating pretty well, but still, I was unenlightened about what I would call medicine 3.0 which is, is all about prevention and longevity. And this topic is particularly important to me this week because I'm going to meet with the athletic director at the University of Texas who, you know, we call him, CDC. His name is Chris do Conti, and you know, just as a an aside, you know, I remember you and me going up to his office and sitting, you know, looking out at the university tower. He's got this great view of it, and we sat up there for what an hour and a half pontificating about all sorts of things. You remember, that
Kelly Hatfield:
Still might be fun. I loved it. That was such a great day.
John Mitchell:
Anyway, I'm gonna go see him on Thursday with a proposal on how to make our 18 head coaches powerfully enlightened about their own health and longevity and and I'm gonna explain to him that that that the the greatest asset of our athletic program is the coaches. And you know, we're super proud of our athletic program, because, as I may have mentioned before, the University of Texas is the biggest brand in college sports, and we've won the directors caught kind of for the last five years. So we've been blessed to have a lot of success. And I look at it now, especially in this, this evolving n i l world. I mean, this thing is, is changing quickly. And so I'm going to talk to him about, you know, let's, let's take the responsibility as the as the athletic department and taking care of our our biggest asset by us making them do something that I'm going to explain here in a minute, and pay for it, for the coaches. And you know, so sort of what I'm talking about is this idea of medicine 3.0 really is articulated well by Peter Attia. Are you familiar with Peter Attia?
Kelly Hatfield:
Very, very familiar. And for those who are want to get familiar with him, he had a great 60 Minutes Expo that was done with Nora McDonald or Nora O'Donnell. I can't remember what her name is, but it was fantastic. If you want an introduction, a great introduction to him, that's a great YouTube is on YouTube, so, yeah, right.
John Mitchell:
He's, well, I and, and I do a weekly program for the 18 head coaches and the you know, city, five people in the athletic department, and I gave them today that interview on 60 minutes, and I just want to explain some things that he says that are startling that most people don't know. The first thing he says is that when you turn 75 you fall off a cliff in terms of your health in turn. And he says that if you do nothing, you will, over the next 10 to 15 years, you'll lose about 50% of your mental capabilities and 50% of your physical capabilities and and so the the lesson is if, if you train for your longevity decades, you can add, literally add 10 to 15 healthy years to your life. And so that's his, that's his moniker, and he's basically based here in Austin, and he charges about $250,000 a year to take people through his protocol that sort of sets it but, but here are some of the amazing facts that he talks about. And I'm curious if, if each one of these is is news to you on cancer, he says, in the last 20 years there. Been no real decrease in cancer, whereas with heart disease, there's been a 66% decline in heart disease over the last 20 years. And so did you know that?
Kelly Hatfield:
I did not know that? Nope, that's a new that's interesting.
John Mitchell:
And he says that that's why early detection is so important. And he says that once a cancer, a cancer always begins in a particular organ, and once it gets out of that organ and metastasizes, then your average length of remaining life is two and a half years. Two and a half years, if it gets out of the organ, it starts, starts in. Man, that really brings home this idea of early detection. Had you ever
Kelly Hatfield:
No, nope, I hadn't heard that before. That's crazy good.
John Mitchell:
I'm glad all my things are, it is
Kelly Hatfield:
This is the thanks for scaring the crap out of everybody.
John Mitchell:
Yes, yes. Well, I got good news coming though.
Kelly Hatfield:
Oh, good. Okay, all right, here with baited breath,
John Mitchell:
He also says that if you're overweight and have high a 1c it substantially increases your risk of getting cancer. And the reason is that is that cancer uses 40 times the amount of sugar that regular cells use. And because being overweight and having high a 1c is all about your blood sugar, that if, if you don't have that under control, it's going to feed cancer and cause you to have a higher propensity to getting it. So just a little warning on that bean talks about Alzheimer's. And today, about 40% of people that are 85 and older have it, just to give you the size of the number of people that have it. And and you may, you may know this, you know there, there is an Alzheimer's gene that if you have it, you have a higher propensity to getting Alzheimer's, and about 15% of people have that gene. Did you know that?
Kelly Hatfield:
I did not know that 15% that's of people had that gene. I had no idea of that, right?
John Mitchell:
Yeah, so it's about one in six people this age. And here's the other thing that's interesting, if you have high a, 1c and are substantially overweight, you're at the same level of risk of getting Alzheimer's that the people are that have the gene. Okay, now you can't do anything about if you have the gene or not, but you damn sure can if you have high a, 1c and you're overweight. He talks about longevity. Here's one. The number one factor in longevity is your cardio fitness as measured by your VO, two Max, and the number two factor in longevity is strength, which includes diversity of movement and training balance. Are you tuned into vo two Max?
Kelly Hatfield:
Not vo I knew about vo two Max, and I've got a device that's supposed to measure vo two Max, but it's not accurate. I need to go and have it done, you know, through right professionally, through a medical office visit. Yeah, right, well.
John Mitchell:
And he taught, as you as you learned, there's a way to train it. It's essentially the engine for the body. And he says that you need to know what your number is. And I'm proud of this. I'm in the 93 percentile on vo two Max. My vo two Max is 32 but he says, You need to know what it is, because when it gets down to about 18, you're unable to function on your own. Okay, but you can, you can train it and and it's not really all that hard to train it, but that's enlightening. And so the essence of medicine 3.0 which is medicine. 2.0 is all about the medical system we have now, which is, is, is treating problems when they occur. And 3.0 is about anticipating problems and engaging in prevention. And the foundation of this is getting your blood tested once a quarter. And so you get your blood tested each quarter. Then you have a doctor who specializes in longevity, not a doctor that is part of the 2.0 world, but yeah, but one that's that's into prevention, they will look at your blood. They're measuring like 400 things, and the idea really is that supplements are not that beneficial, except for the things you're deficient in, right? And so you can take supplements that will impact the things you're you're deficient on. And as. An example. I started doing this a couple of years ago, and there's a company here in Austin called humanot that that is in the process of rolling out 100 locations around the country, and that's who I'm going to introduce the athletic director to on Thursday. But, but anyway, like in doing this, I was able to increase my testosterone by 15 times, literally 15 times. I got rid of gout. I reduced major marker for heart disease by by 50% what else? Just, just a number of other things. So two or three other things where I saw the problem start taking the supplement or the peptide. Peptide is essentially a a prescription that you inject in yourself, and then within one one quarter, I was able to see markedly better results. And
John Mitchell:
it's just, you know, it's the it's an enlightened way to take care of your health. Again, the foundation is you got to test that blood, and you got to have a doctor looking over it and and guiding it. And here's what's amazing. What do you think that cost a month. If you had to just hear that, what do you make a wild guess?
Kelly Hatfield:
Oh my gosh. I don't know. 500 bucks.
John Mitchell:
$200 Wow. Okay, $200 a month. And as I'm going to point out, to CDC, I'm going to go CDC, we're taking in close to $300 million a year. We can't afford $200 a month for our 18 head coaches. Come on, let's because they're not going to do it themselves, right as much as they should. It's one thing I've noticed in the human condition. A lot of times, humans don't do what is logical. You know, that's why everybody's not doing our 12 minute a day technique. They're not logical. They're not thinking. And so sometimes, for lack of a better way or way of saying it, you got to force it down their throat for their own good. Yeah, they're so manic about about she achieving success, that they forget about the big picture of their own health. And so those are some things that that really caught my attention. But I'm curious, from your standpoint, how do you approach your health? What do you do, and how do you approach it philosophically,
Kelly Hatfield:
I think for me. And one thing I'll answer your question, one thing I don't want to forget to mention that the cool thing that I love about Peter Attias work is that, yes, we're using the phrase longevity, but he's about extending your years of wellness, yeah, so that you know what I mean. Like, Listen, I don't want to live another 10 years beyond where the time I'm supposed to live, if I am miserable and in a home doing it, you know what? Yeah, and love, you know, his whole ideology and philosophy around, you know, a do well and extending your your wellness span, you know, versus just like you know, when people extending the lifespan. So I wanted to mention that, because I love that whole idea. Back to the question you just asked me about, which is, you know, I'm always focused on quality of life. We talk about this, you know, many times, as it relates to the life GPS and this methodology, where how precious life is, you know, how lucky we are to have each day that we're here, you know. And so that's how I approach my health, like, you know, I am getting regular. I'm taking care of all of the stuff I need to be taken care of annually. For somebody my age, you know, I am having regular, you know, blood work done, although I'm not having it done quarterly, you know. And I'm sure I'm not.
John Mitchell:
How often do you have it twice a year? Is is your regular doctor giving it to you exactly?
Kelly Hatfield:
Yep, I need to switch to doing what it is you're talking about with this, you know, because I'm just having the standard things looked at, like your a 1c or cholesterol, and like the things that I'm tracking that have to do with my wellness that I'm working on, you know, like, I've, I have a great a, 1c, but, like, I have higher cholesterol, you know, and always have, you know. So it's something that you know, I need to, you know. But part of that's related to hormones, because of the stage of life I'm in, but part of its genetic, you know, where I've had it. I've had higher cholesterol since I've been in my 30s, and I'm not gonna, I won't go on a medication for it. I'm like, right way to manage this, like I'm not creating a whole new set of problems by and the way they measure cholesterol is, you know, is always in in dispute. If you talk to Peter Attia about it, or if you listen to what he has to say about it versus what they've been taught in, you know, medical school, like you you need to be looking at it. It from the right perspective and everything as well.
John Mitchell:
So and you need to be measuring your APO, B, A, Mo, B is more important than the cholesterol. Yeah. Are you familiar with that?
Kelly Hatfield:
No, I've heard I am familiar with it because I've heard it on a podcast recently, and that's the other thing I do for my health, is I'm always educating myself right as far as I'm listening to it interests me. Wellness interests me. So I'm paying attention to the stuff that's out there, peptides, things along those lines, and getting, you know, mostly, I'll be honest, peptides, you know, yes, quality of life, but like, yes, to preserve. You know what's going on as you age. You know a woman to like, I'm I'm paying attention to NAD and I'm paying attention to some of the tides that help with your skin, and, you know, all of that stuff. So, yeah,
John Mitchell:
right, right. Well, before I forget about it, you know, you can, you can do this human art program, even though you're in Seattle, and because you knew the whole thing virtual, okay, and my doctor is, I just love her to death. She is really sharp, and she's only 34 years old. I've never had a doctor this thorough. What's interesting is now she's doing, think it be it, she is all over. Think it be it and and then I don't know that's just a coincidence of because, because she didn't even know what I did for the first six months, of essence, knowing each other. But you could do this. You know, it's hard to find somebody that specializes in medicine 3.0 when you've had your whole life around. You know, going to the regular doctor that you go to that your HMO targets you too and but the whole thing can be done virtually. They'll even come out your house and take your blood. I mean, it's so location is a non factual I think
Kelly Hatfield:
it's interesting. I've had luck, because over the years, I've gone to more of a functional Doctor than than strictly your western medicine. So kind of, they're looking at the whole, the body as a whole, and they're not like so if you go in with a problem, they're looking to see, well, what started the problem, what's the, yeah, right, not symptom, you know, of something and so, but you know, the frustrating part, and you know, for a lot of people, and people who may be listening to this too, is, you know, a lot of the stuff that I haven't done there isn't covered by insurance, you know, you're paying this stuff out of pocket, you know. So, you know. But again, I look at all this stuff as an investment myself, the healthier and the better I feel, the better I perform, you know, and the better I show up in every area of my life. So it's easy for me to, you know, to make that quote, unquote, sacrifice, not really, but, you know, I mean, I'm able to frame it that way, and it's a little bit more digestible, you know, in terms of just dealing with the medical system that we have right now.
John Mitchell:
And how many, how many times a week do you work out? And what do you do?
Kelly Hatfield:
I work out every day, and my workouts vary. So I weightlifting, you know, that's primary, you know, that's a few days a week. I'm lifting weights and heavy. I'm lifting as heavy as I can. I'm doing a lot of mobility stuff. So for balance, yoga, flexibility, I walk every day, you know, four or five miles. So I'm not running as much anymore. Just to be kinder on my joints, I wear weight a weighted vest, you know? And he talks about that, doesn't he Yep, and so I think it's called rucking. I've done it for years, so, but I'm doing stuff now too. That's kinder to my joints that I'm not, you know, just because I'm the age I am, I want to be careful, you know, as far as that's concerned, but my activities really varied, but it's important to me. I have to move every day. And it isn't for me, it's a mental health thing. It is I feel stronger when my body feels stronger when I'm taking care of myself and I am, what's the word? I don't know that I'm worth it. I should. I'm taking care of like. Like. There's a whole like mindset that comes along with with taking care of yourself, that then ripples into, you know, every area of your life. So that's a huge it all starts for me with fitness, right?
John Mitchell:
Does well and and, you know, it has everything to do with deserve level and identity is so foundational to think it'd be it and, and I look at like the live GPS template and, and so how does that fit into all this? Well, first of all, you got to have the knowledge. You know, the the template doesn't give you the knowledge. You got to go find the knowledge. But I found that getting the knowledge is pretty simple. Watch the Peter Attia 60 Minutes segment and go by his book called outlive you're good to go now. That's all you need to know. And then, like when you articulate, here's my plan for eating, here's my plan for exercising. And. Like, the change for me has been, it's not about just lifting weights. I mean, it's about diversity of movement and flexibility and balance. I didn't know that two or three years ago, and now I affirm all that to myself, and I have a regimen, workout plan that's designed by someone way, no more knowledgeable than I am about this stuff, and I just follow that. And because I have a high deserve level, you know, I pray, I value my precious life. And so that's the power of feeding the succinct articulation of your desired life to yourself each day you're you're impacting that that deserve level. You're impacting that identity, that I'm a person that that values my life, and then I, I take care of my health. And what that means is, then you articulate what it is and when it's your identity, as as the sciences has proven, as Dr Huberman has proven, identity is sticky. So when you drill that into your subconscious mind and your psyche that that this is who you are, about your health, you do the things required. So it's it's all pretty amazing. And one other thing I thought I would mention, so when you're doing weightlifting, weightlifting, you're probably doing way more than I was doing in terms of like you're saying diversity of movement and that type of thing. But there's a new device called tonal. Have
John Mitchell:
you ever heard about tonal? I've seen advertisements for it. Yep. Well, we bought one. We had, you know, we had in our exercise room this giant weightlifting machine that you could do all sorts of things. And we, at the start of this year, got rid of it, bought a tonal and what's cool about tonal is it's, it's weight training, but it dials in AI and like you'll when you set it up, it'll assess your various strength levels for different things. And then once it's set it, it makes sure that you're lifting exactly the right amount of weight, not too light, not too heavy, and it can tell by how of a struggle you have? If you're having too much of a struggle, it makes it lighter. If it's too easy, it makes it heavier. And I've only been doing it for a week, but I'll tell you, I see the value of it, because my challenge is always in my life, lifting too little or too much, usually too little, but
Kelly Hatfield:
No agreed. I think I love the idea of it for that very reason. Because I think what's more frustrating than putting all this time in and not getting the results or the outcome that you're, you know that because you're, you know, not lifting heavy enough, or getting right because you lift too heavy, or just not knowing, and so having some of these cool devices that they have now, like tonal right now, that are cool, you know, I love adding that stuff in. I love, you know, I'm sure it counts your reps. I'm sure it gives you suggestions for things you you know, like, I love all that, anything that's, you know, related to, you know, optimizing that kind of fitness experience and using technology, I think is so fun to go. But I love numbers. I love looking at progress, and, you know, that kind of a thing. So with so many of these different devices and like tonal like you can see your progress over and like that just is super motivating for me. So I like stuff like that.
John Mitchell:
And I see that that, like in my workouts, I can do it takes me, typically, about 35 minutes a day to do my workout. That's it, 35 minutes. And I'm like, wow, it's it's so easy. And of course, I do it, I watch the evening news, and I think that's to me, you almost have to have something that diverts your attention. And I find that at least helpful for me, especially when I'm on the treadmill.
Kelly Hatfield:
Yeah, when I'm on the treadmill, I'll watch a podcast, or, like, unmuted, or whatever. And when I work out, I usually listen to music, and then depending on the type of workout I'm doing, will depend on the type of music I'm listening to right then. The other thing I've been doing recently, because I saw some research on this, is to not listen to anything, yeah, have it be, and to really focus on whatever muscle it is, like, where so the energy going to that particular muscle that you're using, and how much more you get out of that time you spend when you're super engaged on the actual muscle that you're moving and that you're bearing the weight with. And so that's I'm experimenting with that a little bit.
John Mitchell:
Oh, I you know, that's got to be true. Yeah. I mean, you know, that is interesting. I have to contemplate that. I think that's. Exactly right,
Kelly Hatfield:
But I it's hard because I love music so much, and I tie music to my workout like, I'll put together music playlists right on the type of to and then I look forward to listening to that playlist. And that's right, the motivating factor is for me to work out. And so eliminating that has been interesting, but, yeah, I'm just experimenting with it right now.
John Mitchell:
They could be, you know, question of, is the juice worth the squeeze? Yeah, maybe it is, and maybe it's not, yeah, totally. And maybe some of it is good, but too much of it would be not good, exactly. Yeah, okay, okay, well, I hope we have enlightened everybody today. And I share all this because I see how unenlightened I was two years ago, and and I thought I was pretty damn enlightened. And so I have been humbled, and I realized that that if, if you can maybe learn from my own lesson that'll help you. So until next time we'll see you.
