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[🇬🇧#BILAN] Holding space to build what you trust in: a year of conversations with berlindetoi
Bonus Episode27th December 2025 • berlindetoi • Gabrielle
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Wrapping up 2025 to thank you and answer some questions about the show: why it exists, how guests are chosen, why I work in three languages, and a year more learning what it means to hold space as a host 🧚

This year has been a blast, thanks to the wonderful participants:

🇫🇷 12 in French: Florian Chiron, Adeline Meilliez, Loïc Dindinaud, Nicolas Sterling, Enzo Cenci, Delphine Mousseau, Alex Baladi, Marina Ramain, Laura Dietrich, Camille Espagne, Marguerite

🇩🇪 2 in German: Miriam Smidt, Laura Dietrich

🇬🇧 3 in English: AC Coppens, Mini Kapur, Elke Sterling-Presser and Nicolas Sterling

💡 4 capsules: défi lectures, nos expatriations, les parfums, bilan 2025

Wishing you beautiful end of the year celebrations and looking forward to 2026! 🎉

See you next year and take care,

Gabrielle

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Hello everyone, thank you for tuning in and

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welcome to the final episode of the year

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2025.

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I am Gabrielle, your host, and you're listening

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to Bernard de Troyes.

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Bernard de Troyes is a podcast show meeting

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interesting, inspiring people living here in Berlin to

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talk about their project.

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And once a year, I like to pause,

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slow down, reflect, acknowledge how things evolved, especially

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because daily life often feels like an intense

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race between work, projects, family, friendships, sports, and

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everything in between.

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So because this year in particular, so many

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people reached out with questions about the podcast

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itself, how it started, how it changed, how

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it works, I decided to do this yearly

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wrap-up for the first time in English.

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So today's episode has two parts.

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First, I'll answer these different questions I've received

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about the podcast itself, and then I'll walk

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you through all episodes recorded in 2025 with

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a short description and maybe some insights and

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backstage about the episode itself.

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This episode is maybe your sign to take

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the time to slow down and enjoy making

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an early reflection.

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Let's go.

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Part one about Bernard de Troyes.

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Why does this podcast exist?

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Bernard de Troyes was born at the end

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of 2020 after I arrived in Berlin.

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And the first idea of it, it was

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Covid.

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I had just started my first full-time

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job in a different language, a new city,

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new rhythm.

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And after a few months, I was really

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overwhelmed.

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And I thought like, this cannot be how

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my daily life looks until the end, kind

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of.

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I know it was a bit dramatic, but

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it really was this sense and urge to

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meet people in Berlin.

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So exactly a year after I arrived in

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Berlin, I started the podcast to meet inspiring

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people doing something they're excited about.

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And at first, it was conversation with people

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I knew, then people who knew other people,

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and slowly the circle grew.

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And over time, the podcast interestingly shifted.

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Even though I didn't know it, I realised

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it afterwards.

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It's not only a place where people present

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what they do, but we also think together,

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question their choices, challenge ideas and perception, and

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move during the conversation.

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So guests often afterwards come back to me

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and tell me, oh my god, we started

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this, and we talked about this.

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And it's having a place where people feel

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safe to express what they're doing, how they're

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doing it, and maybe grab like an outer

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perspective and getting more ideas.

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So it's at the same time a place

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to do a time capsule, like how far

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you are at one moment in your life,

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and grabbing inspiration and idea to involve.

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How guests are chosen.

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So there are honestly no really strict rules.

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The podcast follows rhythm and intuition more than

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schedules.

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And the reason why is because I have

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a full-time job that I really enjoy.

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So I have to balance my agenda with

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the possibility of everyone.

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Some guests write to me directly, sometimes I

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write to them.

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And it's move in all direction.

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We had every type of meetings and selection.

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So it's really more about having a topic

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someone is excited about that he has been

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doing, because we're not talking about ideas, but

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about acts.

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And then it's a sensibility question.

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I do ask for a participation fee, but

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it never of course affects the content.

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It's because I'm independent, not working with sponsors.

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So it just makes sure that the podcast

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show can continue and live.

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We talk beforehand on what feels right to

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discuss about, what are the boundaries, and then

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we record.

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How does the podcast change my relation to

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Berlin?

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This is a very interesting question, because the

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podcast helped me feel Berlin like home.

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Berlin is such a big city, that having

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people I could connect to, and having their

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version of a story, their places, neighbourhoods, favourite

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cafe or sport club, personal geographies, helps really

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build a stronger relationship to the city.

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And this is also something that of course

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evolved over time.

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What do I hope listeners take away?

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So this is actually sweet, because some people

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reach out today and telling me that the

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podcast was joining their vision board for next

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year, which I think is like the best

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compliment ever.

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I really hope that people listening to an

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episode feel that they're at the right place,

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at the right time, doing on their path,

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no matter how fast or since how long.

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And that effort matters.

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But work doesn't have to mean suffering, but

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you have to put the work in it.

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And I get the feeling that people giving

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me these kind of feedbacks kind of tell

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me, yeah, we understand the path and we

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see that nothing is all built overnight.

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And I get a stronger feeling of courage

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and clarity maybe, and showing the diversity of

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people joining the show of paths.

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And it's important you follow what feels important

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and right for you.

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Why three languages?

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So this also was kind of a point

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where people were like, why do you do

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it in French, German and English?

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And for me, people express themselves best in

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the language they feel safe in.

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And French is for me my native, intimate

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language kind of.

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German is the language I learned at work.

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And it's more concrete, efficient.

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I really enjoy speaking German.

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And English is more international.

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So I do not translate episodes.

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Maybe at some point with artificial intelligence, we

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could go there.

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But I think it's very sexy also for

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people maybe trying to learn a new language

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to listen to it and hear different languages

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that are not perfect, but where they get

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a sense and a feeling that they can

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do it too.

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How do I see my role as a

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host?

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My role, as I see it, is to

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hold space, to listen, to challenge gently, to

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make the guest feel seen.

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And I really like when people join the

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show for the first time, like this is

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my absolute sweet spot.

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So it's giving them the place where they

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can hopefully speak the best about what they're

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doing, how they're doing it and why they

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do it in a very singular way.

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And being absolutely enjoying the show.

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I think it's really a different feeling when

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you're talking to someone who's deeply interested in

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what you're doing.

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This is a short sum up of the

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different questions.

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If you have any following follow-up, please

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just reach out.

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Part two, 2025 episodes.

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So this year we recorded more than 15

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episodes and it has been a bit flowing,

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as you may see.

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We had some months where there weren't any

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recording at all, some other where there were

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a lot.

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So let's dive into it.

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First of all, in January, we started the

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year brilliantly with Florian Chiron and this is

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a French recorded episode.

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So Florian Chiron is a financial consultant and

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we talked about money, savings, building long-term

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financial awareness and freedom in a way.

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Having someone who's specialised, based in Frankfurt, which

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I took the train to see.

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I'm living in Germany since long term, but

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speaking French in my culture and language was

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something that I'm really grateful for.

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It's actually one of the most listened episode

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in 2025, showing also that people are eager

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to learn more about how you manage and

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navigate budget and finances.

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Then in February, a French recording with the

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visual artist Adeline Méliès, and which was wonderful

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because February in Berlin is so dark and

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she has such a colourful world that we

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went through talking about travel, serigraphy techniques and

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creative process.

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In February, I also recorded another episode in

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French with Loic Dandino and he's co-founder

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of the White Kitchen Studio.

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He explained everything about what happens behind kitchen

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and how culinary spaces are designed.

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It was such a brilliant example of entrepreneurship

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and where you start because the first job

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Loic got as a studio was designing a

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kebab cart.

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And nowadays he's like creating Michelin restaurants.

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So it was really fun and excited to

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learn about.

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In March, we recorded a French speaking episode

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with the architect and co-founder Nicolas Sterling

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and we've reflected on architecture, engineering, building creative

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structures across cultures.

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And I really loved this because this episode

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is a beautiful balance between practise, inspiration, discipline.

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So it was a great one.

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In March also, we recorded an English speaking

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episode with conference curator and moderator AC Coppens.

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And AC Coppens is nailing absolute masterclass about

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the art of moderation, having meaningful conversation.

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It was super inspiring because I also worked

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with the team from AC Coppens, The Catalyst,

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and they are such professional in what they

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do.

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I learned a lot about it, what was

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about framing, editing, crafting episode.

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In March, I also recorded in French this

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time with Enzo Sensi.

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And this has been also a very loved

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episode because we talk about his full-time

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job as a finance and then DJing at

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night and selling sandwiches with cheese Enzo imports

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from France.

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And Enzo talks about this multi-activity life

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in Berlin and how you can get the

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best out of the city.

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And this episode resonated particularly because it was

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the first time for me meeting someone my

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age, kind of having the same life and

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just trying things out of curiosity and joy

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with a very strong do-it energy.

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In March, I was very honoured to record

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in French with executive leader Delphine Mousseau.

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And Delphine is actually very well known.

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You can find a wonderful podcast episode about

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her that I will link to the show.

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And it was her first time participating in

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a interview and we discuss about leadership, impact,

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sharing knowledge as responsibility.

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And she does it with a lot of

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generosity and clarity.

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And it's a lot of humour too.

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So it's a breath of fresh air.

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In May, I recorded a German speaking episode

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with artist Miriam Schmidt.

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And she shares her journey through illness, recovery

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and becoming an artist later in life.

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It's such a powerful episode and reminding that

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everything starts at the right moment in any

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way.

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And sometimes it does come a bit later,

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but you're not going to go between or

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beside the life that you're aiming for.

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We recorded in her wonderful atelier and that

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was in Plitzensee.

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In May, I recorded a French speaking episode

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with comic author and illustrator Alex Baladie.

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And Alex Baladie, I discovered through my book

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club, my comic book club, if you know

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the librairie Grenier Bühle in Berlin.

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And it was really inspiring and interesting to

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deep dive in the scene of graphic storytelling,

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visual narration, and discovering the independent world of

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comics.

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In June, I recorded a French episode with

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interior designer Marina Raman.

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And we reflect on changing carriers, crafting, creating

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space for creativity, and having the courage to

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embrace a big change in your life.

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So it was also a very heartwarming and

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episode that resonated with a lot of people

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who are exploring and thinking about is this

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the right time to choose a different professional

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life, for example.

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So in June, we did a challenging French

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and then German two episodes with Laura Die,

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an independent musician exploring artistic independence, music creation,

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language across bilingual episode.

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And I really loved it because Laura is

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German who speaks French.

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I'm French speaking German.

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So the two episodes are very different from

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another.

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And it was super fun to have the

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possibility to record this in different settings.

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So big up to you, Laura, also for

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having your first album out there and have

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a look to her work.

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It's great.

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In September, we recorded a French speaking episode

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with Camille Espagne.

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And I discovered Camille through her Instagram account,

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talking about the book she reads.

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And we talk also about routines and how

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you build a sense of home in Berlin.

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And it was very grounding and warm.

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And it was a very beautiful episode to

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come into autumn and the end of the

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year.

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In October, we recorded an English speaking episode

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with Mini Kapoor, who is the designer and

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gallery founder from Under the Mango Tree in

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Berlin Schoenberg.

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And I met Mini thanks to Adeline, who

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had an exhibition in the gallery.

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And we talk about vision, persistence, the courage

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to build something, and how what is everything

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about running an art space in Berlin, which

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is very challenging and very inspiring.

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In November, I had two French recording episodes

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that are deeply to my heart, because it

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was both guests who already come once on

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the show.

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One was with Marguerite, who is a former

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freelancer turned Berlin Unterwelten guide.

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And Marguerite is also a Buldus performer.

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So we reflect on three years of evolution

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since our very first episode.

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And it was so satisfying to observe, see

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how she blooms and changes and adapt her

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life.

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Afterwards, I had an episode with Sophia Fabian.

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And Sophia joined the show for the first

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time in German.

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And we talked about writing.

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Sophia is also a comedian and the podcast

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creator of Das Chaos und deine Kinder Show,

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which is a very big German podcast about

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the Greek mythology.

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And we talk about writing routines, and talking

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about everything which is behind the scene, about

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discipline, creativity and balance, and how no matter

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what is your type of personality, you build

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what feels right for you.

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And last but not least, we recorded in

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December, an English speaking episode for the first

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time with not one, but two guests.

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You remember Nicolas Sterling, the architect and engineer

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we talked with at the beginning of the

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year, came back on the show together with

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Elke, his co-founder, to discuss about collaboration,

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partnership, shared vision in their architecture studio.

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We also talk about international and how do

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you connect in artificial intelligence with your practise

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and balancing between cultures and difference.

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And it was a very strong and beautiful

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way to close the year.

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Alongside interview, I also record some episode that

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I named Capsule.

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This year, they were only in French.

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And the idea is to reflect and explore

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topics a bit differently, and maybe more personal.

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So for example, at the beginning of the

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year, I talked about my reading goals, which

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two books a month, living abroad, building something

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from scratch.

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I shared my summer favourites about role models

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too, and my discovery this year, through books

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and then in real life about perfume and

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the smell, something, a sense that I didn't

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use to challenge so much.

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And thanks to the wonderful book from Sarah

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Boas in French, Pas le bout d'une,

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it's something I really had more into this

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2025 year, which was fantastic.

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So this is how we wrap up 2025.

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I feel deeply grateful for having been your

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host one more year.

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Thank you so much for supporting the show

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in any ways.

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Thank you to the wonderful guests that shared

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their time and their past and their personal

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story with me.

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It is also a year that I started

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a Substack newsletter a bit differently with a

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monthly reflection, which brought me more time to

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write and create.

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So it has been a very creative year

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in a different way in trying to express

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things in different formats.

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The show continues because of curiosity, connection and

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care.

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Take good care of yourself during this end

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of the year moment, however it looks for

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you, and we'll see each other in 2026.

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Thank you so much.

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Feel free to support the show if you

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want to add a comment or a five

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star rating wherever you're listening to it.

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Join us on LinkedIn or Instagram and see

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you next year.

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Bye!

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