Steve Mera is a parapsychological researcher, author, media personality, CEO of Phenomena Magazine, and member of the enigmatic Project Doorway - a research effort to understand concentrated areas of 'high strangeness'. We're discussing his efforts in psi research; ties between paranormal, crypo-zoological, & UFO/UAP phenomena; the nature of recent 'disclosure' events, and loads more! | In The Keep | Support In The Keep | Theme Song by Jon of the Shred |
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[0:00] The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions
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[0:05] of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if we are to live together as a smoothly functioning society.
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Steve:
[2:16] So my journey started within this subject at a young age, having an interest when I was at school, actually. My father had quite a number of books on the subject. So I started reading things like Eric von Daniken's Chariots of the Gods, Inside the Flying Saucer, all sorts of different things. Whilst my friends were reading comics, I was looking at them.
Steve:
[2:42] So fascinated. and as time went on i wanted to choose a path um where i could obtain more information and advance my studies and so i went to university and did a number of um different courses qualifications psychology and so on and wanted a better understanding not only of human perception but how people's minds work cognitively in regarding when experiencing phenomena um so in the early days you know i had a number of mentors i was introduced into the subject of what back then was referred to as ufo phenomena more so now uap uh terminologies changed somewhat over the years and i also i never stayed within the subject of ufology i also wanted to you investigate and better understand the subject of anomalous phenomenon generals, which introduced the paranormal, cryptids,
Steve:
[3:53] Earth energies, ancient sites, all sorts of different things.
Steve:
[3:57] So before you know it, I was kind of involved in all sorts of different subjects. And I started writing for television many years ago. And one day I ended up in front of the camera. And, uh, and since then I've done probably around about three or 400 TV shows internationally. Um, I lecture around the world. Um, I also tutor our UITC course, UFO investigators training course, um, uh, also around the world, and it's also digital content as well. I'm the owner of Phenomena Magazine, the CEO, which is a free monthly magazine, which can be obtained from phenomenonmagazine.co.uk, which has been running about 17 years. It's a free magazine, comes out every month. And it's really to break down those barriers so that we can network better across to other countries. It's distributed in 12 countries and a number of languages.
Steve:
[5:00] Uh so basically 360 i do a lot of the investigation i'm involved in quite a number of projects and filming projects as well as conducting advanced research um i work with a number of people one of which has already been on your show believe barry fitzgerald who was a colleague of mine yes sir um i've worked with a number of people and um i continue to be involved in a number of high-profile programs and projects, and I'm also a member of a number of international think tanks. So that's pretty much it in a nutshell.
Tyler:
[5:41] It's just quite interesting that you kind of got it honestly in your childhood through sheer research and reading books and such. I think a lot of people have some sort of experience before they turn to this.
Steve:
[5:54] Yes. I mean, I won't shy away from that. I did have experiences when, started when I was seven years of age. I continue to have experiences, even today, even up to current times. It didn't disappear in my teens, as people mostly said back then. Don't worry it'll all disappear in your teens when you start getting older and your biological changes take place and you start getting interested in in other things but that wasn't the case um I am an experiencer people who with me experience the phenomena I experience um many years ago I would have considered that not talking about personal experiences because it was initially thought that being a researcher and active investigator, that you might be biased in regarding your conclusive information if you're an experiencer. However, I don't think that's the case. I think it does, the attributes, it does help. It does give you a better understanding of what people might be experiencing. So I can certainly look on my experiences in regards to assisting other people.
Steve:
[7:10] But I've really headed in more into the scientific area, advanced UAP studies, paranormal mechanics, trying to gain answers as best we possibly can.
Tyler:
[7:23] It was very profound. You mentioned that I'd already spoken with Barry, but just kind of digging into what you guys have been doing with Project Doorway and some of the, Some of the things that you've brought to light, or at least perhaps resurfaced, might be a better way of looking at it, is tying all this stuff together. You had mentioned how you began with more ufology-oriented study and then kind of tied it all together. When I look around the space and I see someone who is a specialist, what's that old saying about the specialist specializes more and more until they are observing absolutely nothing at all?
Steve:
[8:01] You're very very just very true tyler that does actually happen i mean you know what lots of people have claimed to be experts and i always say look the experts are the ones flying them you know i
Tyler:
[8:14] Think it's uh it's absolutely incredible though how you know someone could be open-minded to the idea of bigfoot and then if you bring up ghosts a bit like oh that's a bunch of nonsense i'm like come on.
Steve:
[8:26] Yeah exactly it's it's no different really i mean from the research that we've done now right across the whole scale of all all topics they're all interconnected the evidence points out if you dig deep enough but the problem is is this we were dealing with this compartmentalization of these subjects and it's not been helpful it's been a endurance if anything people in the ufo camp wouldn't deal with the paranormal guys and vice versa the big fuck guys would definitely deal with nobody you know so you have to try and conclude in the little box that you're working in and that's it doesn't always help because sometimes the answers lie in a different subject and when you break down and compartments of different subjects and look at the subject as a whole, like phenomenology, as we call it, then you start to see associated actions and connectivity between the various topics where you think, okay, well, it's the same thing.
Steve:
[9:32] And the aspects of research done in parapsychological circles, which I've been involved in, ties in to a lot of the other things in different camps. And the problem is is that each each compartment has its own name terminology gets twisted up but it's the same phenomena it's just might be turned something different and what you really do need to look at it as a whole to kind of try and get a better understanding of what truly this phenomena represents
