In this episode of the Ethical Crypto Podcast, co-host Anthony Perl and Temple Melville discuss the revolutionary impact of Scotcoin on charitable giving. Temple narrates the journey of Scotcoin from its recent listing on the top-tier Mexi exchange to its global influence across 54 countries. The podcast highlights Scotcoin's innovative token economics in supporting clothing distribution, sustainable food initiatives, and circular economies. The hosts delve into the ethos behind Scott Coin, emphasising its commitment to creating real-world change without monetary donations by providing goods in exchange for Scotcoin. They explore future plans, such as bridging with Solana and collaborating with various projects and preferred partners. Temple shares inspiring stories of charitable impacts and the strategic long-term goals aimed at fostering a sustainable and ethical crypto ecosystem.
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Scott Coin goes Live a milestone
moment in ethical cryptocurrency.
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:In this episode, temple Melville reveals
how Scott Coin is revolutionizing
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:charitable giving through innovative token
economics and shares inspiring stories
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:of impact from clothing distribution
projects to sustainable food initiatives.
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:Discover how Scot coin is building
circular economies, bridging with
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:major crypto platforms, and creating
real world change across 54 countries.
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:I'm your co-host Anthony Pearl, and
this is the Ethical Crypto Podcast.
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:Anthony Perl: Well, hello
everyone and Temple.
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:Welcome.
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:Temple Melville: And
good morning to you, sir.
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:Anthony Perl: And I suppose we've
got a lot to talk about really,
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:because, uh, Scott Coin is out there
officially, but what a journey it's been.
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:Temple Melville: Well, yes.
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:No, I mean, uh, very exciting.
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:Just we're about six weeks
in from our listing on.
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:Um, how we even got to
Mexi is a story in itself.
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:Uh, and we are really pleased because
Mexi is a, a top 10, even a top five most
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:of the time, uh, exchange for crypto.
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:Uh, and that really means something.
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:Um, and there's a lot of things have flown
from that, which is really, really nice.
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:Anthony Perl: Well, we're
gonna come to the journey in a.
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:Little bit, but I want to know firstly
where things at right now and where's
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:it going in the immediate future.
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:Temple Melville: Well, the, I, we've
deliberately said the, the listing
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:is not the end of the journey.
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:The listing is just the start
of the journey in many ways.
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:we, we've done everything we can
to make it right, touch wood.
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:Uh, we've, um, got very good partners
with, uh, people we work with and so on.
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:Uh, and the really nice thing about
it is that the, the reason that
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:we're on Mexi more than anything, I.
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:that they really like what we do.
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:Uh, and that is such an important
thing from my point of view,
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:because that's what we're all about.
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:We're all about helping people.
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:We're all about making
things better for people.
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:Uh, and we're all about trying to make.
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:Uh, the planet a little bit greener
and people are a little bit better off.
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:And they, they really got onto that.
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:They understood that from the minute
they, they actually approached us
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:and said, listen, we've read about
this, we love it, we want to do it.
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:Uh, and it's, you know,
an amazing thought.
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:So that's, that's where we are.
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:We're very definitely, I mean, even since
we've listed, we've managed to do two or
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:three other things with various charities.
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:We had, uh, uh, two, um, two lots
of clothing, big lots of clothing.
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:A total of about 5,000 items, uh,
which went to two different charities.
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:Uh, and you know, we had very
nice, very nice feedback from them,
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:of course, but why wouldn't they
if they get something like that?
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:Uh, and we are not about
giving people money.
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:Uh, we don't think that works
terribly well in lots of cases.
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:Uh, and what tends to happen is that it
gets used up in various ways of, uh, you
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:know, administration and things like that.
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:What we do is we give people Scot coin for
the product and they're delighted because
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:they can do all sorts of things with it.
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:And we, we are delighted because
we're able to then use the,
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:the product that they have.
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:So that's our, that's our way forward.
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:Um, there's quite a few other
things that are happening.
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:What I would describe in a
technological way, uh, for example,
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:we are in the middle of a program
to create a cross channel bridge.
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:We'll be bridging with Solana.
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:Which will put us into,
uh, the radium pool.
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:Uh, and, uh, we have, we have, we
think it's gonna be a really good
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:thing from Scott CO's point of view.
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:also on, uh, unis Swap,
which is working quite well.
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:Uh, and, um, in general, I mean,
we're, we're, we've got a nice
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:turnover on, on the exchanges.
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:Uh, we've got a nice take up.
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:Um, you know, and the people
we're working with are all happy.
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:That's the main thing, you know,
that's what we really try to do.
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:Anthony Perl: I think it's
important for people to.
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:Understand the impact that you're making,
but talk for a minute to the people out
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:there who are listening, who are intrigued
by the idea of what this is, but maybe
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:don't fully understand how it works.
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:So give us that insight about what
the actual way that you see Scott
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:Coin working now and into the future.
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:Temple Melville: Well, there's two,
there's there's two strands here, I
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:think is the best way to describe it.
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:Is there.
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:Before we were listed, the, the main
strand was we would go to, for example,
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:uh, clothing manufacturers who had excess
clothing that they wanted to get rid of.
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:Now, this is one of the big issues
with clothing that, that all these
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:people who make clothes always have
stuff that they're trying to get rid
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:of, but for one reason or another.
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:Uh, and, and you know, it's really bad.
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:A, it's bad.
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:They produce more than
they need, and b, it's bad.
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:They then, in most cases just burn it or
bury it or whatever, you know, so, um, and
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:in fact it costs them money to do that.
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:I mean, here in the uk if you say,
I've got, you know, to burn so
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:many hoodies or whatever it is, you
know, there's a, there's licenses,
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:It costs money.
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:Um, so what we do is we were
going along to them and saying.
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:No, you don't need to do that.
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:Give us what you've got.
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:We'll give you Scot coin.
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:We'll give the product to charities
and various other entities and, uh,
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:you know, you, you can then use the,
the Scot coin in your own ecosystem.
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:And they, they've tended to do that, uh,
and they, quite few of them have got what
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:I call the 10th cup of coffee syndrome.
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:So you buy a t-shirt and you get
a hundred Scott Coin and you build
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:that up and when you've got a
thousand, you get a free T-shirt.
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:And that's a really nice
ecosystem, which is.
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:and it's really good, um,
and that that will continue.
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:But the nice thing now is that the people
with the doing the clothing will be,
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:if they wish, be able to sell SCO coin.
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:Now to date, none of the people who
we've, uh, uh, paired with, shall
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:we say, uh, have indicated at all
that they want to sell, they're
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:quite happy to have it within their.
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:Uh, armory, shall we say,
of um, marketing methods.
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:And, you know, that's really nice as well.
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:the other way we're working and we,
we have this, uh, in fact in our white
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:paper, we deliberately say that we will
have what we call preferred partners.
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:Now, a preferred partner just means
somebody who will accept Scott Coin in
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:exchange for their goods and services.
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:So, um, for example, I, I'll.
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:One of the things we're just working on
at the moment is with a, with a very large
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:milk producer and baby food producer.
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:Uh, and the idea is that we will be giving
Scot coin to people who are in need of
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:getting free milk effectively, uh, and
free baby milk, uh, and formula and so on.
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:And the, the whole point there
is that we give the tokens to
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:the people who need the product.
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:They go along to various
places, which will be, uh.
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:Made out as to which
places will accept it.
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:Uh, and they go in and they say,
please give me 10 pints of milk, or
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:Please gimme five bottles of baby
formula, or whatever it might be.
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:And, um, they get it and they
exchange it for score coin.
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:then the people who are accepting
the S score coin, again, it's
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:up to them what they do with it.
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:Obviously it's their money, if you like,
uh, will decide what they want to do.
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:But in general, we think
they'll probably work on a, a
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:Anthony Perl: Which is fantastic.
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:You know, that's the ability
to make that impact in thinking
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:about things in a completely
different way by, by giving that up
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:Temple Melville: Hmm.
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:Anthony Perl: then people
ultimately benefiting from it.
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:I think this is, uh, it's, it's
closing a missing gap really, isn't it?
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:That's, that's existed in the, in the
marketplace that people have wanted to
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:do something, but you know, there, there
needs to be a value attached to it,
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:and this is a nice way of doing that.
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:Temple Melville: Yeah, the, the,
the, the, one of the things we, we
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:think and we we're quite sure about
is that people, um, need respect.
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:And in order to do that, you
have to have some method of.
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:Uh, giving them something not for
free as such, but with, with a,
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:uh, you know, it, it feels nice.
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:You pay for something that's good.
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:You, you know, it's a good thing.
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:and, um, we, we've found, interestingly
enough, we have a, a project,
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:which is a shop where you can go.
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:you can pay in SCO coin, or you can pay
in cash, or you can pay in, uh, food.
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:In fact, you can give them tins of
food and they've got a whole range
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:of things, clothes, food, you know,
furniture, all sorts of stuff.
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:And you just, you can get it.
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:And that's been very successful 'cause
people, uh, that it is not just.
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:Money.
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:You need to make things work.
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:You need to have, uh, goodwill and
you need to have effort, and you
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:need to have people who are prepared
to put the time and trouble in.
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:Uh, and fortunately we have
a lot of people who do that.
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:Anthony Perl: And is ultimately
seeing then the value because of the
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:impact you make in the, in the rise
of the value of Scott Coin itself.
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:Temple Melville: Yes, I, I am, I, when
I, we've been doing this for a long time.
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:Scott Coin originally started in
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:form, but it, that's when it started.
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:We got involved in 2016, and from our
point of view, we said at that time,
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:this is not a get rich quick scheme.
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:If you want to get rich quick.
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:You know, don't do it.
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:and um, we've, we've stuck to that and
we get, we get a certain amount of,
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:uh, smash is what I call it from people
saying, why haven't you done this?
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:Why haven't you done that?
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:And the short answer is, is because
in the short term, yes, it might
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:put the price up, but in the
longer term, know, probably not.
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:and um, so we are, we are very keen
to have a, uh, steady exchange rate.
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:We're very keen to have an ongoing.
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:Uh, commitment to make it work.
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:Uh, and we're very keen to have people
who recognize that and are not, you
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:know, what we call punters who just
come in and go out and pull the rug
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:and that's it, you know, no use at all.
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:Um, so from our point of
view, we're, hang on a sec.
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:From a.
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:From our point of view, we're very
pleased with the way things are
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:going at the moment because we've
seen, uh, a very good, uh, turnover.
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:I mean, it's, uh, you know, it's a lot
of money every day, which is great.
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:Um, and, um, uh, you know, we,
we feel quite confident that
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:it's a long term situation.
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:It's not a short term situation.
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:Um, and we've all, the other thing
we realized quite early on is
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:that simply giving people money.
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:mean, of the problems we have with
dealing with charities and various other
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:charitable type institutions is that
the thing they want is money because
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:they have overhead expense, which is in
quite a lot of cases, a lot of money.
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:Uh, you know, for example, um, uh, some of
the charities have sort of about 60% goes.
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:To the charity, uh, sorry.
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:60% goes to the, uh, what they're
trying to do, and 40% goes on admin.
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:And we, we don't think
that's a very good idea.
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:Um, so we, we've worked quite hard to
get around that and we feel that we've
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:done quite a good job on that call.
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:Anthony Perl: Yeah, I think that
is an important thing, isn't it?
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:Because tradition in the traditional
models, a lot does go on administration,
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:and that is a, you know, it's been
a flaw in the system and, and often
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:unrecognized by people who are
giving money to organizations, not
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:recognizing that administration
max up a very large percentage at
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:times of what needs to be done.
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:Temple Melville: Well, we, we, we, um.
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:None of the management take
any fee, any director's fees,
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:any expenses, any anything.
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:Uh, and, um, you know, we, we
feel that's the right way to go.
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:Anthony Perl: So talk to me then
about the longer term strategy.
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:We've, we've, we've delved into where
we are at the moment, but where do you
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:see Scott Coin going into the future?
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:How and how long is it gonna take to get
to where you see this vision happening?
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:Temple Melville: Uh, that's
a $64,000 question, isn't it?
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:Uh, maybe it's a 64
USDT question nowadays.
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:Anthony Perl: Or maybe it's a, yeah, maybe
it's a 64, uh, million Scott Coin one.
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:Temple Melville: be.
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:Who knows?
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:Anyway, um, I, I think the, I think
the short answer is that it's as long
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:as it takes, uh, we, the way that,
uh, our tokens are set up is that,
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:um, there is what we call treasury.
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:Now, the treasury.
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:we have finished doing the current, uh,
uh, of the tokens that exist, uh, we'll
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:be around figures 150 million tokens.
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:Those 150 million tokens will only be
released at the later of 1 million a year.
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:Now it's very easy to work out.
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:That's 150 years worth.
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:Uh, and so we are quite sure that that's
going to happen, you know, over the time
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:will be long gone of course, but hopefully
there'll be people who want to take it on.
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:Um, the other point about that is
that, uh, the, the first 1 million
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:Listing.
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:So in other words, it'll be next
February time, February 22, 6
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:before any get list get listed.
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:And the other point is that anything that
is not used in the year will get burned.
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:So in other words, there's
not going to be an overhang.
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:We won't suddenly find five years down
the line there's about 10 million waiting
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:to, to get flogged off or whatever it is.
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:They just won't be there
because they'll be gone.
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:And we, again, we think that's important
because it's important to maintain a.
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:Uh, a solid basis for your token.
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:There's no, there's no point throwing
tokens all over the place and doing stuff
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:'cause it just disappeared down the train.
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:we are very, we are
very pleased with that.
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:So we're very pleased that we're gonna
have a long-term future on that basis.
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:Uh, we continue, uh, on
a daily basis, I may say.
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:Uh, to have discussions with various
projects and people and, uh, uh, shops,
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:you know, and, and manufacturers and
all that in order to extend what we
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:offer people, uh, in the way of, you
know, food and all sorts of things.
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:Uh, and that that is an ongoing.
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:Project and we'll continue.
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:You know, as long as I'm involved.
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:Certainly, that's for sure.
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:Um, uh, and, but the other thing
that's really interesting talking
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:about going forward, uh, so we, we
listed and, you know, we could hardly
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:get, there was a lot of people we
couldn't even get to talk to us.
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:'cause they said, well once you
listed, you know, we'll talk to you.
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:And all of a sudden I.
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:day before when we announced
we're listing tomorrow, uh, I got
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:flooded with people saying, oh,
right, okay, you're listing, right.
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:Let's talk about this,
that, and that thing.
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:And I, I mean, I've spent the last month
doing nothing virtually than talking
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:to people about different things.
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:And there's a lot of them, for one
reason or other, that just that the
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:fit isn't right and this isn't quite
right, or that's not quite right.
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:But we do our very best to make sure
that what we do work with works well.
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:Uh, and that's, you know,
I think quite important.
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:The other thing that's absolutely
fascinating to me is, so as I said, Mexi
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:is a top 10, uh, uh, worldwide crypto,
very big, you know, millions of customers.
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:Billions of turnover.
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:and uh, because of that we have, I mean, I
couldn't give you the exact numbers 'cause
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:I haven't bothered to count them, but
it must be 30 or 40 other exchanges have
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:come to us and said, Hey, I see you're
on Mexi, how would you like to be on us?
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:You know?
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:And the short answer is, some
of them we probably might.
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:an awful lot of them, you know, we
wouldn't want to be, uh, and there
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:are different reasons for being
listed on different exchanges.
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:For example, I mean,
Mexi is a worldwide one.
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:We appreciate that.
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:But there, there are certain areas where
it would be good to have a representation.
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:So I'm, I'm slightly making this up, but
let's just say it would be good to have
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:an exchange, uh, that concentrated on,
uh, people in Singapore, for example, and.
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it would be good to have a, a, a European
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and we're talking to somebody there.
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:Um, so there's different reasons for,
and, and those are not big exchanges.
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exchanges, but the point is
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:And a niche is a very important thing.
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:I mean, that's, uh, uh, how people
make fortunes is by servicing a niche.
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:Um, so we're really hoping that, uh,
one or two of these people will, uh,
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:come to fruition and there's no reason
why they shouldn't, but you never know.
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:and we're gonna be very pleased indeed to
have them on board with us, and we hope
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:Anthony Perl: And there's nothing wrong
with the scarcity model, uh, which
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:is, you know, in part of, of what you
are saying here with both in, in terms
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:of where it's listing, but also in
terms of making sure that what's not
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:used in a year is not, um, is, is not
carrying on to the following year.
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:So that scarcity does add value
and, and also heightens the niche.
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:Uh, I'm, I mean, I, we, we believe,
and you can never be a hundred
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as I, I don't even know how many
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:I think, I think it must be
approaching several hundred thousand.
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:Uh, admittedly only the top,
you know, let's make it up.
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:200 are worth anything
worth talking about.
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:But there are literally hundreds
of thousands of them, and most of
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:them are, you know, totally useless.
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:I mean, what are you gonna do with them?
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:Um, and we believe, and as I
say, I stress, we believe that
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what we call an ethical stance.
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:Um, you know, people, people talk about.
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:Different tokens and so on, but
none of them, none of them focus on.
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:And we would be delighted if we,
well, we wouldn't be delighted to
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nice to have other people to talk to.
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:Um, but in general terms, we would be
delighted as long as there are people
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way than just saying, oh, we'll sell the
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because that's, to me, that's, that's
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things you could do with crypto.
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:Uh, sure you all, I, I bang
on about this because I'm a.
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:Uh, and I talk about a
thing called Vir, WIR.
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:Now, VIR is a, a Swiss-based, uh, It's
what it was not, uh, a digital crypto,
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:but it started in the 1930s when
there was no liquidity, uh, anywhere.
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businessmen who got together to try and
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:Uh, you know, 80 years later or 90
years later, uh, you can go into
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oh, I'd like that sofa, please.
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:Uh, how much is it?
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:Oh, it's a thousand Swiss francs fine.
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:Here's 700 Swiss francs and 300 via, and
the shop people say, yeah, thanks Jake.
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:Uh, and deliver your sofa for you.
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:he then goes to his suppliers
and buys a spring or whatever.
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:He buys a cloth, whatever it
might be, and pays in via.
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:And there, the, the VE in Switzerland
is something like $20 billion a year.
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:Now.
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:It's huge.
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:Uh, the 70,000 businesses that use
it, there's probably approaching
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:and it's, you know, it's, it's great.
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:And we, we would love to be doing that.
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:We, we think that's a perfectly valid
way of working, and, and worked well.
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:And we, in fact, we've got, we've
got little tiny mini bits of
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:We've bought something for SCO coin
and the people have then used it
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:to do something else, but it's,
it's in, its, it's in its infancy.
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we, you know, we'll get there.
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my, um, I think the right word is that
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20 years time, we've got, you know.
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coin, not just in Scotland, but elsewhere.
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:I mean, interestingly, uh, one of the
areas where we have had, what I describe
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:Now, lots of people have got sort
of negative feelings about Nigeria
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:for a variety of reasons, but we
were very lucky and we found an
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really believes in what we're doing.
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:System and, and, and, and sort of,
uh, e ecosystem in, in Nigeria.
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:Um, and there are, I mean, he has
people that accept Scott Coin for.
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:Um, phone contracts and, you
know, all sorts of things.
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:Uh, and, you know, that's fantastic.
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:I mean, that's, you know, why not?
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:And of course, to a certain
extent, I suppose, you know, the
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:banks in Nigeria are not that
easy to deal with and one another.
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Coin is an absolute boon.
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:Uh, and, you know, I'm really
delighted with what he's done.
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:Anthony Perl: It's exciting that, that,
uh, and, and I think that's an interesting
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:point as well, is that, you know,
you sort of touched on it there, but.
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:Scott Cornwell carrying the
obvious name and linkage.
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:The idea is that it
does go beyond Scotland.
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:Temple Melville: Oh, absolutely.
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:I mean the, the great thing about
crypto, of course, is it doesn't stop
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:at the sea, uh, or even at the border,
you know, uh, it, it, it's everywhere.
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:It's absolutely everywhere.
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:Uh, we have, Scott Coin
has something like 54.
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:Countries where it is held
by a variety of people.
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:And interestingly, they're not all Scots.
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:I mean, I, you know, when I
started all this, I kind of thought
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:to myself, oh, well, you know,
there's lots of Scots in the world.
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:They're all want here, blah, blah, blah.
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:Um, but very interestingly,
it's not just Scots.
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:Uh, we have, uh, you know, what I would
describe as foreign nationals in, in
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:lots of countries that hold Scott Coin.
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:And I've always asked why
do people hold Scott Coin?
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:I've no idea.
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:I have really no idea.
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:I mean, I, I guess there's those
who, um, sort of thought if I buy it
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:now and it'll go up, I'll sell it.
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:Uh, but there are definitely those
who like the idea of what we do.
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:and before now, uh, and we'll probably
do more of this now as well, um, we
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:had a thing whereby somebody wanted, a
product that was relatively expensive.
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:So I'm making this up slightly, but
just to give you an example that.
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:Charities have always got these
gazebo things when they go to events.
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:Uh, and they're about, you
know, between all the bits and
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:pieces, about a thousand quid.
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:So that's quite a big hit in
one go for anybody to take.
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:So we kind of crowdfunded it.
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:So we had people who were happy to pay 10
pounds, 20 pounds, 30 pounds, 40 pounds.
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:Um, to get that organized,
and that's wonderful.
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:You know, that's truly wonderful.
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:Um, so we gave, we gave
the tokens to the charity.
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:The charity then, uh,
crowdfunded it themselves.
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:Um, and it worked absolutely perfectly.
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:Uh, and you know, I'm sure we'll do
more of that because it seems to work.
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:Anthony Perl: I love that.
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:And so tell me more about some of
these projects that are ideal projects
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:that you'd like to be working,
you know, on and into the future.
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:Because you've talked about a couple
of them, but are there some dream ideas
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:that you'd like to pursue in terms of
how you can make an impact with it?
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:Temple Melville: Well, I, I very
much, I mentioned the one about the,
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:the milk and the baby food and so on.
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:Anthony Perl: Hmm.
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:Temple Melville: And that, that I, I
think, is a really good thing to be doing.
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:Um, but we also, um, we, we
work with lots of people.
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:Uh, we work, for example, with a
charity which provides, uh, mental
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:help, uh, for younger people.
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:And part of what they do is
they, they work in a garden.
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:our task, if you like, is to provide.
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:What they need in the garden, you
know, and that includes manure.
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:And I, I love this.
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:You know what, what, what do you do?
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:Oh, buy manure.
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:Um, and, um, uh, the, but the funniest
thing about that was the first time we did
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:it, but we wanted one and a half tons, and
we got in touch with the people and we had
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:a bit of a chat and one thing like that.
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:Anyway, they said, oh yeah, no problem.
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:And they delivered 15 tons.
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:And so this poor garden
hardly actually cope with.
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:One and a half tons, nevermind 15.
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:Uh, and they, but they.
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:Being reasonably resourceful people, um,
got in touch with other garden projects
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:and of course everybody was delighted.
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:They all got this free manure.
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:It was fantastic.
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:Um, and, uh, that, you know, that's
the kind of thing I really enjoy.
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:but that there are, there are
lots of other potential uses.
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:I mean, one of the great things
about crypto is that it's targetable.
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:uh, whereas, uh, you know, if you just
making this up, if you give money to.
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:A charity that's digging wells in
Africa, obviously there is costs
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:that they have and there's costs
for sending the money to Africa.
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:And there's costs for this and costs
for that if you do it in the direct way.
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:So if you get a hold of the person who's
actually digging the wells and say, look,
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:here's a hundred quid, or whatever it
might be, uh, in, uh, in crypto or in,
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:in whatever it did at the local currency.
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:A, they get the whole amount.
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:B, it goes only to that project.
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:It doesn't get siphoned off anywhere else.
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:Uh, and you know, the costs
of doing that are minuscule.
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:I mean, I, I was doing something the other
day and I had to send a sum of money to,
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:well, it was actually to America, but
doesn't make any difference where it is.
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:It's the same everywhere.
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:and I, I can't remember exactly,
but it was going to cost me a.
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:Two or 300 pounds in the,
what I would describe as the
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:conventional trad fire way.
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:um, uh, I thought to myself, hang on,
this is, and it was gonna take 10 days.
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:And I thought, hang on
there must, you know, why?
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:Why are we doing this?
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:And I then sent it using crypto.
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:Uh, it costs me $1 93.
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:and it was there within 10 minutes,
you know, or five minutes even.
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:I mean, what, the, uh, you know,
what's the, what's the drawback?
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:And in fact, interestingly, I had a,
a, a, a conversation with somebody
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:the other day who was trying to set
up, uh, a bank account with one of
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:what I would describe, describe as
the tradify, uh, banks in the uk.
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:there was, I mean, it was incredible.
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:The amount of carry on there was,
um, now, okay, there are still.
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:Uh, hurdles you have to jump through
If you want to set up, uh, you know,
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:an exchange, uh, uh, list, sorry.
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:If you want to set up an exchange
account, you have to go through, uh,
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:KYC, know your customer and a ML, which
is anti-money laundering and so on.
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:Um, and that's absolutely right.
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:You should, you have to.
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:but once you've done that, you're,
you know, you can do what you like.
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:Uh, and, and it's, it's,
it's a huge difference.
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:the, uh, what I would is
Overregulated situation.
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:Uh, and in fact, funnily enough, uh,
somebody just, I noticed on LinkedIn
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:had put up an article just yesterday,
the day before, saying Europe as a whole
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:is overregulated in terms of finance.
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:Uh, and, uh, in many ways, you know,
that, that they're gonna lose out,
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:they will lose out in their question.
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:So we are doing our best to avoid
that, and we are doing our best
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:to make sure that the people
who really need help get it.
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:Uh, and, and there's a, an expression
we use all the time, which is
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:quantitative easing from the bottom up
where the people would least get most.
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:And we, we kind of think
that's the way to go.
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:Anthony Perl: I think it's a, a
amazing the impact you're making.
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:And I, before we wrap things
up, we're gonna go back to the
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:beginning of the conversation.
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:I want to hear a little bit more about
the journey, the immediate journey
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:and the lead up to, uh, to all of
this kind of happening and going live.
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:Because there's a fair bit that
happened in that, I guess the few
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:weeks in the immediate lead up to it.
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:Temple Melville: It's not,
it's not the few weeks.
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:It's actually, if you like, the few
years, uh, I mean it's very interesting.
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:I mean, there's a lot of stuff people
don't really, I mean, everyone thinks you
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:just go, oh yeah, let's take, that's it.
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:But it's not, it's not like that at all.
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:There's an awful lot of
stuff you have to do.
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:Uh, you have to comply
with all sorts of things.
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:Um, and you also, I mean, the exchanges
themselves put you through quite a,
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:uh, a serious, um, uh, inspection,
I think is the way to describe it.
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:and uh, one of the things that, uh, up
outta that was that our, uh, 'cause we
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:are, we are the Scott Coin Project, CIC,
which is a community interest company.
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:And we are regulated by, uh, the
Charitable Commission in Scotland, which
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:is called Oscar, office of Scottish,
uh, community relations and stuff.
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:Anyway, um, they, um.
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:Uh, the exchange said, well, we,
we think you need to have somebody
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:look at your memo and articles of
association, and those are the,
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:the, uh, rules by which you are.
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:is governed.
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:And uh, we did, we, we
said, fine, not a problem.
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:Uh, and we got somebody
to have a look at it.
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:Now you might think all that takes is
somebody spending an hour reading it
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:and going, yeah, or no, or whatever.
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:Anyway, it took us two months to get it
into the shape that we wanted it to be in
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:and, you know, everybody was happy with.
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:Um, so, you know, there's two
months that's gone, uh, and.
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:You know that there were a number
of things like that that happened.
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:Um, but what we do know is having done all
that, we are, what I would describe as in.
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:Perfect shape as far as, you know,
all the regulations are concerned.
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:We have an LEI number, you
know, all this sort of stuff.
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:Um, and it's, it's all important.
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:It all matters and it all
hopefully breeds trust.
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:Um, so that was, that
was part of our journey.
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:So, um, the way that, uh, I dunno if all
exchanges do this, I think it probably
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:is, but Mexi for example, only announced
the day before listing uh, you know,
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:we are listing Scott Coin tomorrow.
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:I.
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:Um, so on the 11th of February, uh,
we put out various, uh, social media
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:and various things, uh, telling
people that was what was happening.
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:Uh, and, um, I mean, that was the
point at which I started to get hit
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:emails from dozens and dozens and
dozens of people, which is great.
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:I mean, it was super, it was
just what we wanted really.
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:and then the next day we had, we
had the listing, Now one of the
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:most important things in listing is
what they call the market makers.
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:So if you, if you just simply, uh,
throw your token onto an exchange,
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:uh, all that happens is that, uh,
you know, everyone goes, oh, ah,
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:I can sell it and they sell it.
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:Uh, but the problem is you
don't want 'em to sell it.
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:You want 'em to buy more, if anything.
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:Um, and so you have to have somebody
who manages the market and they're
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:called market makers, and we
have an extremely good, um, uh.
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:Relationship with our market makers.
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:We've been talking to them
for more than two years.
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:Uh, and, uh, we've, we've had lots
of, I might almost say heated, but
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:I don't mean heated, nasty, I mean
heated, passionate, uh, discussions
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:about various different things.
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:Um, and uh, the really great thing about
it is that what we've ended up with is,
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:uh, a very good relationship with them.
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:Uh, they are extremely supportive of us.
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:Uh, they come to us with ideas,
with different thoughts and
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:so on and so on and so on.
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:And these are all, these are not all
things that are immediately manifest.
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:They are things, you know, we don't,
we don't just say, oh yeah, fine, okay.
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:We go in, we think about these things, and
we look at them from all sorts of angles.
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:we look at them from, from,
um, different aspects as well.
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:You know, is this good for
the long term of the project?
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:And if it's not, we don't do it.
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:Um, uh, or we don't think it is.
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:We, we can be wrong, of course.
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:but that is a really, really good thing.
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:And it was a very exciting.
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:That day, the 11th of February
was a very exciting day.
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:If anything, the listing on the 12th
was a bit of that climax really.
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:But the 11th was the exciting day as
far as I was concerned because suddenly
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:it became obvious that this, this was
really something, this, this was big.
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:And uh, I was so pleased when it
all worked and it all went well.
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:Uh, and um, you know, we just
have to hope that it continues.
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:Anthony Perl: Well, what an amazing
journey It's been, what an amazing
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:journey it's going to be into the future.
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:So, uh, I think we better wrap things up,
but thank you so much for, uh, filling
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:us in on this episode of the podcast.
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:Temple Melville: pleasure
Anthony, and I hope to speak to
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:Take care.
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:Thank you to Temple Melville from
Scott Coin, and thank you for listening
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:to the Ethical Crypto Podcast.
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:Don't forget to check the show
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