This week, Morgan and Andrea flip the script and want you to SUCK at divorce. Yep, you read that right. Learn how to Set aside your feelings, Utilize experts, Calm your nervous system, and Know the facts: a game-changing framework that’ll help you make better decisions (and fewer expensive mistakes) during your divorce.
From cortisol spikes to co-parenting apps, nervous-system hacks, and even Amazon finds that actually don’t suck, the girls cover it all ...with the perfect blend of legal insight, emotional honesty, and wine-soaked humor you’ve come to expect.
🧠 What You’ll Learn
Why your emotions are the worst business partners during divorce — and how to manage them
How to think like a CEO (even when you feel like a hot mess)
When and how to actually use your divorce experts
Simple science-based tricks to calm your body in moments of panic
How to separate facts from feelings to protect your sanity (and your wallet)
🛠️ The SUCK Framework
S – Set aside your feelings
U – Utilize experts
C – Calm your nervous system
K – Know the facts (and stick to them)
🥂 Quote of the Week
“Divorce is a marathon — or as Andrea would spell it, a Martha-thon"
Timestamps:
05:01 – The Hulu Show That Made Us Cringe
Andrea reviews All’s Fair — the all-female divorce firm drama starring Kim Kardashian — and the verdict? “It sucks.” (Which turns out to be the perfect segue…)
07:46 – Introducing the SUCK Acronym
Morgan and Andrea unveil a new framework that will actually help you survive your divorce with your dignity intact:
S – Set aside your feelings
U – Utilize experts
C – Calm your nervous system
K – Know the facts (and stick to them)
09:02 – Step 1: Set Aside Your Feelings
Morgan explains the science behind emotional flooding (hello, cortisol!) and how to think like a businessperson instead of a brokenhearted one.
10:34 – Andrea’s Advice for the Highly Emotional
If you can’t be calm — pretend to be someone who can. Channel your inner TV badass (minus the tire-slashing).
11:35 – Step 2: Utilize Experts
Morgan reminds listeners: you hired your experts for a reason. Don’t go rogue.
12:55 – Why Ignoring Your Attorney’s Advice Backfires
Andrea walks through what happens when clients do the opposite of what their lawyer says — and how to avoid a legal disaster.
15:59 – Step 3: Calm Your Nervous System
Andrea and Morgan dig into the physical side of stress. What happens in your body when your ex drops a bombshell — and how to get your calm back.
17:54 – Morgan’s “20-Minute Rule” for Freakouts
She shares a practical strategy: take 20–30 minutes before responding to any major divorce news. No driving, no emailing, no rage-texting.
19:44 – Andrea’s Panic-Proof Toolkit
The “panic attack queen of Chicago” shares her science-backed tricks: movement, cold exposure, vagus-nerve activation, and a hilarious deck of cards that actually help.
22:29 – Step 4: Know the Facts and Stick to Them
Morgan explains why emotional storytelling wastes time and money — and how bullet-pointed facts will save your case.
23:50 – Feelings Aren’t Facts
Andrea breaks down why your opinions about “Brenda being a nut job” won’t hold up in court.
25:07 – How It All Comes Together
Andrea explains how each SUCK step builds on the next — from calming your system to using your experts effectively.
26:46 – Recap: Why You Need to SUCK
Morgan summarizes the SUCK method and introduces their thriving online communities.
27:53 – The Community Shoutouts
They celebrate the rapid growth of their private and post-divorce Facebook groups (and tease upcoming expert videos).
29:17 – Andrea’s Favorite Amazon Finds
Ice rollers, mood-light sconces, and gifts that make your friends’ day — because retail therapy totally counts as healing.
30:44 – Morgan’s $40 Spanx Dupe
The jumpsuit that broke the internet (and didn’t break the bank).
33:57 – Red Light Special
Andrea’s bedroom lighting hack turns hilariously NSFW — and somehow ties back to the theme of “sucking.”
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set aside your feelings when it's so hard to do so. It's literally probably the hardest thing that we're telling you to do.
know the facts and stick to them.
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if there's something that they're saying that isn't quite landing with you, ask them. A lot of times, your attorney might direct you in a certain way because it's part of the bigger strategy.
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If you're going through a divorce or thinking about getting a divorce, this is the podcast for you. Hosted by Morgan Stogsdill, the head of family law at the largest family law firm in the country and comedian Andrea Rappaport, you're gonna laugh, you're gonna learn, you're gonna avoid major divorce mistakes. This is How Not to Suck at Divorce.
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You know, Andrea, the biggest takeaway I hope that people get from listening to this podcast is that they make better decisions,
being proactive and not reactive.
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but being proactive about your divorce can come with a lot of really big, uncomfortable feelings, especially when it pertains to your kids.
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Well it's been a Martha-thon of a week over here for us. Ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha ha. Go for it.
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Can I bring up the story?
Okay, so if you were listening to the podcast last week, we were joking about the fact that Andrea says she went to song and dance college, basically, and therefore she can't spell. So she didn't go to real college, she went for like music and all those things. And so we were like laughing, ha ha ha.
The other night I'm about to go to sleep and of course what do I do but open Instagram and there's the How Not to Suck a Divorce podcast and there's a fabulous post from her and I'm reading it. I'm like this is great, this is great and I swipe through and I'm like my god she misspelled marathon. was mar-marathon? No, mar-thathon. Yes, so I immediately started sweating. I'm like my god this this girl really can't spell. ⁓
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It was Marthathon. It was Marthathon.
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text her I was like you have to pull this down immediately because you can't spell so then the next day as I'm on my way to the office and doing a thousand things she makes a joke that I don't even catch she was like I'm so sorry about last night it's just been a Martha thon of a week and I just glazed right through it I was like yeah okay and then she was like you don't get it and I'm like get what so bottom line is we're gonna work on our spell check apparently Andrea doesn't have spell check but we are we're working on it
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Well, the stupid
design program that we use doesn't have spell check. And I mean, hello, Canva, get spell check. I need it. Like, come on. And so now, of course, every time we close the show, I'm going to crack up because divorce is a Martha-thon, not a sprint. What the fuck? But let me talk for a second about other things that have gone on ⁓ this week that have really thrown me for a loop.
Have you seen the new Hulu series that is sweeping the nation and the divorce professionals community?
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I've seen the trailers and in my opinion, I'm just gonna go there, it's so cringy that I don't think I can even turn it on. I like the outfits, I'll give them that. They look fabulous, but the acting is so cringe.
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want to tread lightly because some of our LA friends ⁓ were like executive consultants on this show. But what the fuck? Here's me treading lightly. What is this? What is this fucking show? First of all, Kim Kardashian, love your ass. Don't love you on screen as an actor. For those of you who are wondering what the hell we're talking about.
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You
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What's the show called? All's Fair, All In?
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All's
fair. All's fair. And it's basically the premises. It's an all-female divorce firm. And so the premise, I think, is great. But I don't know. Just watching the trailer was so cringe that I was, as a divorce lawyer, I'm like, I can't watch this. I cannot do it.
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So I've had one
of the worst weeks of my entire life and I decided to last night to go ahead and watch the show because that would make it better. It didn't. And ⁓ I think they only released four episodes so far. Four has been enough for me. It reminds me of like, like ⁓ divorce meets that TV show scandal with Kerry Washington. Like there's a lot of sex.
There's a lot of odd, like, I don't know if you remember the conversation we had with our LA friends about crazy things in LA and celebrity divorces, and there was like a dominatrix story, I think, that Steve Mandel shared with us. Well, there's a lot of that kind of stuff that goes on. It's weird. The acting is horrible, but it's like an all-star cast. It's got Naomi Watts. It's got Glenn Close, Kim Kardashian. Anyway, it's weird.
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Would you call her an
all-star actress? I mean, from an actress?
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No, kind of,
no, definitely not. you know, I just don't even, my brain just kind of stops. I don't even, I don't really have more words to describe how confusing watching this show was and thinking like, do people think that this is what divorce is like? Because it's not, but the show,
sucks.
And that's really, I mean, that's all that I can say about
that.
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I just Googled what are the reviews of All's Fair. Overwhelming dislike, fascinatingly incomprehensibly, ex-essentially, I can't even pronounce that, terrible.
even with my horrible acting skills, and you are pretty decent, I think we would make better for TV than they are.
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But thank God it does suck because God has blessed us with the most perfect segue into our conversation today using that exact word.
we're gonna give you an acronym that's going to change the way that you handle challenges in your divorce.
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Listen up. The biggest issue that we see as divorce attorneys is how our clients at times respond to the unexpected. It's not the actual issue itself. So here's exactly what we want you to do. And this might sound so counterintuitive, but we actually want you on this episode to suck. Yes, you heard that right. Hold on to your panties.
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Jesus, I was not expecting that. It's all about sucking, but not that kind of sucking. Don't get excited, Chad or Brenda or Monica.
We are referring to the following when we're telling you to suck, and that is set aside your feelings, utilize experts, calm your nervous system, and know and only
focus on the facts. That's the acronym there.
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I like it. And we're going to break these down and give you the tools that you can apply to each step. Starting with the first one, let's
set aside your feelings when it's so hard to do so. It's literally probably the hardest thing that we're telling you to do.
And a lot of times I see this with clients where they get very amped up. And we always talk about this. When something goes ⁓ unexpectedly.
It spikes cortisol in your brain. That's just the normal human response. It's like when you're running from a bear in caveman times. You try to run from the bear because the cortisol is pumping in your body. But it takes a long time for that cortisol to kind of calm down so that you can think clearly. So at times when you feel that spike is coming because you are losing your mind, we want you to say to yourself, I need to think like a business person here.
If I think like a business person, I'm going to take those feelings in my brain and I'm going to compartmentalize them and try to push them off to the side. And it's so important that you are able to do that.
when you're making big decisions, because you cannot make a big decision when you are completely out of your mind, flushed with cortisol. You can't, and you should not. You should know when that's happening, and you should explain to your lawyer if it is happening and you're not able to do what we're telling you to do, compartmentalize it, put it off to the side, think like a business person. You have to communicate to your lawyer, I'm not in a good place right now to make a decision like this.
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We're going to talk even more about that because if you're like me and you're really emotional and you have a hard time seeing your life as a business transaction, then everything that Morgan just said sounds really nice and feels impossible to implement. I'm with you. Here's a suggestion. If you can't be you, be somebody else in that moment. Channel a character. Channel a real badass character. Maybe somebody from...
movies, maybe somebody from a terrible TV show called All's Fair. They act like a bunch of badasses. How would they handle this situation? But only use that energy to get yourself in the mindset. This is where we stop. You channel the badassery, but before you take action and want to do something stupid like slash someone's tires because you're feeling so confident and strong,
you wanna immediately move on to step two.
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Yeah, let's not slash any tires. I've had plenty of those experiences. We are good there. So step two, let's calm yourself down. Step two is utilize the experts. Please, please. That is why we have experts in divorce cases. We know that it's really hard to use your experts. We get it because you're trying to save money. You don't know whether at times that it's worth a call to your lawyer or to potentially your financial expert or whatever other expert you have on your case.
We get it, we talked about this in an episode a few episodes ago about whether it's worth calling your lawyer or whether it's something you want to talk to your friend about. So go back and listen to that. But you want to utilize the experts. That's what we're there for. We are there to guide you so that you do not have big missteps. And a lot of times, you just don't know what you don't know. You think, yeah, this decision makes a lot of sense. Like for our family, it makes sense.
What if your lawyer said, okay, I hear what you're saying, but do you realize that if you make this decision, this decision might have a huge financial effect on, let's just say, child support down the road. So yes, you're making this decision now, but maybe it's gonna hurt you down the road. If you didn't utilize your expert, you would have no idea about how that decision affected you.
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want to talk for a minute about the challenge that attorneys face when a client doesn't do what they're telling them to do. And I'm going to give you guys an example here because I think that that might be easier. Let's say that the triggering moment for you in your divorce is that your spouse drops a bomb that he or she is going to file for full custody. And you are like, huh, what? Let's go back to step one.
How the fuck are you gonna set your feelings aside on that? That is major, but that is crucial. You have to think, okay, stop. I'm not gonna get emotionally involved in this. This is business, let's just pretend. What would a real badass character do? How would they handle somebody saying, I'm gonna file for full custody? Are they gonna have a panic attack on their floor? Are they gonna start screaming at Chad or Brenda?
Are they going to pack up their kids and drive to Michigan? No. They're going to get their shit together. They're going to take a deep breath. They are immediately going to call their attorney. But when their attorney guides them on what to do, you have to fucking do that and not go rogue.
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Right, well as divorce lawyers, we're not just giving this advice to give it. We're giving, especially there's some advice that we're giving that we're basically trying to say to you, you can make your own decision in your case, but look, if you go left when I tell you to go right, and then there's a big problem, I can't fix it for you. There's no way to unwind that. And those are the decisions that you want to know about in advance. The other thing you want to know about in advance and why you want to use your experts is,
A lot of times, if you're expert, your divorce lawyer is setting your expectations and telling you exactly what could happen in the future, you're going to avoid a lot of those behaviors where you're getting those cortisol flushes. You are freaking out because you're expecting it, right? It's the unexpected that freaks you out. And a lot of times that comes from just not having the right expectations from your lawyer.
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When you're doing step two and you're utilizing your expert, if there's something that they're saying that isn't quite landing with you, ask them. A lot of
your attorney might direct you in a certain way because it's part of the bigger strategy. We talked about this a few episodes ago about losing the forest because you're focusing on all the individual
trees. So there's nothing wrong with asking your attorney, OK,
Help me understand why I'm doing this or why you want me to do this instead of this. That's okay. But what we're saying is when you do the opposite of what your attorney is telling you to do, you are getting deeper and deeper into a bigger problem that the only expert you have might not be able to get you out of.
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That's a fair point. That's a fair point, Andrea.
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So staying with that, okay? I get it. I get that when you are already taken by surprise because going back to somebody saying, I'm going to file for full custody, you are boom, triggered. Your attorney could tell you, don't react. That's a claim that they're making just to amp you up. They have no grounds to do that. Let it go. Meanwhile,
You just got this information and you cannot let it go. And there's a reason why you can't let it go. There's some science that happens here. When your brain hears that kind of information, there's an activation that happens in your nervous system. When we hear bad news, our nervous system immediately begins that fight or flight stress response because our brain is getting a threat.
Now we're getting into what Morgan spoke about before. When our brain lights up with that fight or flight response, it releases all those stress hormones. It releases the cortisol. It releases the adrenaline. That's there for a good reason. That's there. Our body has that so that we can run from the bear in the woods. But the problem is our body cannot discern between is there really a bear chasing us or is our brain just lighting up because we heard something that we
don't want to hear. And if you're not sure what I'm talking about, it's when your body starts to feel really hot or really cold, you might feel your heart rate speeding up. You might feel really edgy. You might feel really dizzy. You might feel just slightly off. That is a sign that you are triggered. So if you're feeling that, now it's time to move on to step three, which is calming your nervous system.
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So I see so many clients where this happens, right? It could be in the middle of mediation, negotiations, negotiating the divorce settlement, whatever it is. This happens a lot. So number one, if this has happened to you or maybe you're worried it will, don't worry. This is pretty normal, especially during some of the divorce processes. But I want you to know that there's a few things that I recommend you do. So when you get that news and you're freaking out, number one.
you need to know in your body, number one, this is a normal response. We can try all you want to calm yourself down. Some people have that ability, others do not. If you're one of those people that just can't get it reined in, that's okay. But I want you to know that it's going to take 20 to 30 good, long, solid minutes to get you back to a place where you can calmly think about things. So what Andrea and I do not want you to do is if you get some unexpected news that sends you into a tizzy,
Number one, I don't want you starting to hammer call your lawyer, meaning just out of the blue, just start calling them. What we want you to do is take a breather, go take a walk. I know that sounds nuts, but that is what's going to calm you down for 20 or 30 minutes. We don't want you to be driving, get the unexpected news. We want you to pull over, calm your body down. We don't want you to respond to any emails or make decisions in those 20 to 30 minutes.
We want you to calm yourself down. And after that 20 to 30 minutes, you're going to know when you're back to normal. And that's the time that potentially you might want to call your lawyer to have them make you feel better, have you walk them through or walk you through the strategy so that you do understand what decision you're making. We just want you to basically put a hold on those 20 to 30 minutes when you're freaking out.
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You just mentioned call your lawyer to make you feel better. But I want to clarify, you're only going to feel better from your lawyer if they're giving you action steps that you can implement. Don't call your lawyer anticipating them to hold your hand and breastfeed you and burp you and get you back to a place where you have ⁓ a positive sensation all over your body. That's something for a therapist, your friend, if you use a coach, something like that.
This is my area of expertise, y'all, as the panic attack queen of Chicago, not to be confused with the sausage king of
which by the way, I'm totally glazing over like a very easily sucking reference right there. But I've done all the things. Like I have tried all the ways to calm a nervous system. And if you Google this stuff, it's going to give you the dumbest shit that does not work. Like hug a blanket.
Take a bath. No, no, no, no. You need to move. It is exactly what Morgan just said. Moving your body, and actually the most recent science is showing that doing a vigorous exercise is a really good way to shock your body out of this. Also, anything that has a very cold temperature. So you could put ice to your wrists and then do 20 jumping jacks, 50 jumping jacks. You could jog at first.
and then walk. We're coming into winter right now. If you live in an area where it's cold outside, get your butt outside. That cold sensation, that fresh air on your body really does help, but it's moving. Also, I can link this in the show notes. recently found somebody had suggested ⁓ it's like a deck of cards that have different exercises that help trigger your vagus nerve.
which calms your nervous system. Some of the exercises kind of feel a little bit goofy, but some of them I think actually really help. I think it was like $20. Keeping a deck like that on hand might help you. And this sounds so stupid, but it's not because getting your nervous system back to a place where you do not feel like there is an imminent threat is going to potentially save you thousands of dollars.
in mistakes. Believe me here.
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Right? All right, so let's talk about the third or the last step, which is, ⁓ the fourth. my gosh, I can't count apparently today. All right, so we're on the fourth and the last step, which is
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Yeah.
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know the facts and stick to them.
So let's talk about why that's so important. Number one is we don't want you to be garbled when you're communicating your issues with your attorney.
We want you to have the facts, we want you to have them bullet pointed, and we want you to stick to those facts. Because if you are unorganized with what's going on, it's one, it's going to cost you more money with your lawyer because your lawyer is going to have to decipher what you're saying and parse through everything, all of your emotions, right? As opposed to if you had, all right, this is what happened at this point. We're going back to Andrea's custody.
proposal where someone says I'm going to take full custody, which these days that's kind of nonsensical. anyway, if they say that, it's definitely going to get some kind of response, which is normal. But you would go back to your lawyer and say, hey, these are the reasons, these are the bullet points as to why this makes no sense. mean, number one, Brenda travels every week for work from Monday through Wednesday.
How would Brenda get to the children at that point? Number two, it doesn't make sense because Brenda's never done bedtimes with the children during the weekday. These are all bullet points and facts that we want you to know and stick to them on the issue.
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And let's talk about what we don't want them to do. The facts are important because facts can be proven. Facts are what judges use to make decisions, not your feelings and assumptions about why Brenda should not have full custody. Brenda's a nut job. Brenda talks, Brenda.
thinks that I'm a bad dad and she's going to poison the kids against me, blah, blah, blah. None of those are facts. Those are just your feelings about Brenda. That goes back to cluttering your case and really takes value away from the actual point.
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You're right, and I want to link this a little bit because what you're hitting on makes a lot of sense. You want the facts and then the lawyer will come to you if they want more information to say, okay, well, why does this fact bother you so much? And so essentially that's when you can bring in the emotion. Well, I'm worried that Brenda's trying to talk poorly about me or alienate me from the kids.
These facts kind of go to that theme, so the lawyer will actually ask you more details if they need it.
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And I want to just say something for the sake of saying it. This acronym can sound like really simple and kind of like, all right, what's the point? There is so much point here. It sounds simple, but this is the hardest thing for divorcing individuals to apply. That's why we are dedicating an entire conversation to just this. Setting aside your feelings, the S of the SUCK acronym.
is one of the most impossible things to do. It is so hard to take yourself out of the equation. So by doing that first step and by saying, OK, I want to flip the fuck out, but I'm not going to flip the fuck out. I'm going to channel someone else. While you do that, you are utilizing that expert. All of these steps are coming together. When you utilize the expert, you have to listen to what they're telling you.
when they tell you information that you don't like hearing, right? Even if your attorney says, okay, ⁓ Chad, what I'm going to need you to do is put together a timeline of this, this, this, and this. Well, maybe Chad hates doing timelines because he's not good at them. He hears that and he's like, my God, my God, my God. That lights up his nervous system. Well, Chad needs to calm that nervous system back down.
before he does what his attorney is asking him to do. And when he does put together a timeline, he needs to just know the facts and stick to them. And that's it.
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That's right. So to recap, we want you to suck in order to not suck at getting divorced. So again, suck. S, set aside your feelings. U, utilize experts. C, calm your nervous system. And K, know the facts and stick to them. So what I want to also do, Andrea, because I didn't get to say this yet, I want to give a shout out or a shout out.
a shout out to our private community and our new community that we just started because we started a new community because people were like, where do we go? We still wanna be with you guys after we're divorced, where do we go? Andrea with all her extra time started the new community on Facebook and we have so many members. We're so shocked at how fast it grew. So thank you to everybody. And our private community has been.
so busy with so many questions and lots of ideas and lots of referrals going around. So if you're not in our private communities, feel free to join. It can be anonymous. You don't have to put your name on there, but you're going to feel part of something. And that's what we do. And we try to make everybody feel better about this process.
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We're so excited about these communities. We are growing them in terms of what we're giving. We're adding some more experts into the communities, recording separate videos that I will be hosting so that we're giving everybody as much guidance to feel like they can get through this process in the healthiest way possible. So moving on from that.
We're not going to play a little game today because my nervous system can't handle a game. Pretty sure that Morgan's Martha-thon of a week cannot handle a game. So instead, I want to give you some shout outs of some of my favorite things that we've bought from Amazon
lately,
because I love nothing more than a good Amazon find. And we kind of chatted a
a bit before about those little cards that I love. I'm going to put the link there in Amazon. Two other things I want to tell you about. Number one, I mentioned ice. There is, and when I say ice, I mean like an actual ice cube. know Morgan's face just lit up. Morgan's nervous system just lit up. No, I'm not talking about that ice. We have nothing to do with that on this show. ⁓ An ice cube, cold.
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was like,
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Cold as ice, ice ice baby on your wrist. ⁓ I found the most amazing ice roller that you can roll. Like it's giant. It kind of looks like ⁓ for all the hockey moms out there and dads, like a Zamboni machine. Like for your face, like it's like a big ice roller. It like reduces puffiness. I love it. It feels so great. But also you can roll it on your wrists for if you need to like,
kind of sap your nervous system back to baseline. I'm obsessed. So I want you to get that. ⁓
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I like it. OK.
I'll think about that. I definitely do not have that. One of the things that I'm obsessed with, I actually sent you it recently. And sorry to all the Chads and guys out there, because this is a female product. But we'll think of some for you as well. usually those influencers online drive me crazy, because they're like, you need to get this. So then you do. And you're like, this thing sucks. And you're making money off of me.
And I know that's why you wanted me to buy it and I totally bought it and now I'm mad at myself because this thing sucks and now I have to go return it somehow with no time that I have, right? So know this, that Andrea and I are not making any money off of any of the products we're telling you about. know that. This product was a fabulous jumpsuit, one or two piece jumpsuit, million different colors, but it was like a knockoff of the Spanx jumpsuit, which costs, I don't know, $250, $300.
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No, no.
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this knockoff, I mean, was exactly as luxurious as Spanx? No, but would you ever think it would be? No, but it was, I would say, 75 % as luxurious as Spanx and for a price tag of $40 to $50 all day, all day, and it looked exactly like the Spanx outfit. So I sent you one. Do you like it?
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It's so like the color too, like you just feel ⁓ elevated while you also have a day where you don't want to get dressed, which is most days for me. So I highly encourage everybody to grab their little paws on that. Also, can I just say the power of gifting somebody something, when I got that package, I mean, I Amazon deliveries hourly.
So when I grab that one from you, I'm like, what did I order? I don't remember this one. I rip it open and then you see that like dark green bag inside, which indicates that it's a gift. Talk about my brain lighting up in a good way. I'm like, woo! I was so excited. It was so fun. really does make your friends day. you know, if you need to brighten someone's mood,
I want you go grab one of our divorce greeting cards, pop that in the mail, send a gift. I mean, and we talk about gifts all the time. We are partnering with, know, Truly Engaging because their line of cards are so freaking amazing. I mean, the power of giving something. I want to give everybody one last suggestion and this is for all the chads out there too. I had been seeing all over social media these
lights that you can add, kind of like a sconce that you can add to any room, but they are battery powered so they don't have to be wired. And these ones stick to your wall with like an adhesive so you don't even have to drill. And they look really high end. They're not super cheap. Like they're a little over $100 for a pair of them. But I have been wanting them for so long. Well, I found them on Amazon for a little bit less. I feel like on
social or when you look to buy it from the company directly, they were like around maybe $200. I think I paid like maybe 130 or something like that on Amazon and I put them on either side of my bed. They look like so regal and so chic and it really elevates your space, which makes you feel so much better about your life. And you literally, I mean, you have to like put them together and then you just like pop them on the wall and then you just
Look, they have like a little remote. So, bink, mood lights on. Bink, mood lights off. And what I think is hilarious, because these are definitely made in China, ⁓ they have like a warm setting, a cool setting, which cool settings gag me, gross. ⁓ But they also have like red, green, blue. What are you doing? What are you doing?
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Hmm.
no. Get out of here.
Hey, so for the Chads, if you guys want some mood lighting, that's where you're going. Andrea's Lights.
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Yeah, talk about sucking.
If you want to get kinky, just turn on that red light and you too can turn your room into a sex dungeon.
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The red light.
⁓ god, alright, we're going leave you with that. Wow. Okay, so just to recap, we don't want you to suck at getting divorced, but we want you to suck. If you follow the suck acronym, you are going to be well on your way and ahead of where you would be otherwise.
If you need more community, we know that there's the private community, but also we have the DCC course on our website and other guidebooks if you need a little bit more extra help. Again, when you buy them through our sites, it's all confidential so that nothing is coming up as how not to suck a divorce podcast. We don't want that, neither do you. And remember this, we know divorce is a marathon. In Andrea's mind, it's a Martha-thon. It is not a sprint, but that's okay because we know not every day is a good day.
Some days it's day by day, other days it's hour by hour, and you will get through this.
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We're here for you every single step of this process. Like Morgan said, we work so hard to provide you with every tool possible to help you not suck at what can feel like an impossible process. On the days when you feel like you can't do it anymore, maybe take a pause. Don't quit. And you'll pick right back up the next day. And I promise you, I promise you, promise you, promise you.
that in a few years you will look back on this time and you will say, ma'am, that was hard, but I got through it and life gets so much better.
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