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Divorce Issue: When You Don't Agree With Your Attorney
Episode 2283rd July 2026 • How Not To Suck At Divorce • Morgan Stogsdill and Andrea Rappaport
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Divorce issue:When you don't agree with your attorney and Why Going Rogue Can Cost You Thousands

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Episode Description

Every person going through divorce eventually reaches the same breaking point.

You become convinced your attorney is wrong.

The judge doesn't get it.

The legal system is broken.

And your brain starts whispering...

"Forget it. I'll just handle this myself."

Unfortunately, that's often the exact moment people make the most expensive mistake of their entire divorce.

In this episode of How Not to Suck at Divorce, Andrea Rappaport and family law attorney Morgan Stogsdill are joined by Atlanta family law attorney Daniel Bloom to discuss why otherwise smart people make impulsive decisions during divorce, what "going rogue" really looks like, and how one emotional decision can cost you tens of thousands of dollars.

From firing off an angry email to texting your ex after one too many drinks, this episode explains why patience, strategy, and emotional regulation can ultimately save your case—and your wallet.

In This Episode You'll Learn:

✔ Why divorce makes even intelligent people act impulsively

✔ What "going rogue" actually means in a divorce case

✔ The hidden financial cost of ignoring your attorney's advice

✔ Why waiting during divorce feels unbearable—and what's really happening behind the scenes

✔ What your attorney is doing while you think "nothing is happening"

✔ When it makes sense to seek a second legal opinion

✔ Why therapy can be one of the smartest investments during divorce

✔ Three simple steps to stop yourself before making an emotional decision you'll regret

✔ Why divorce is a marathon—not a sprint

One Email Can Change Everything

Daniel shares real-life examples of clients who ignored legal advice, sent one emotional email, and watched their entire case unravel.

Sometimes the cost isn't just financial.

It's your credibility.

Your settlement.

Your co-parenting relationship.

Or even your relationship with your children.

Feeling Like Your Attorney Isn't Listening?

Many people mistake silence for inaction.

In reality, experienced divorce attorneys are often developing strategy, gathering information, and protecting your long-term interests—even when it feels like nothing is happening.

Learn why the waiting process is often one of the hardest—and most important—parts of divorce.

Thinking About Going Rogue?

Before you send the email...

Before you post on social media...

Before you text your ex...

Ask yourself one question:

"How will this affect my case six months from now?"

That one pause could save you thousands of dollars.

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Transcripts

andrea (:

Okay, I have to confess something. When I got a divorce, there came a point where I became absolutely convinced that my attorney was wrong, that the judge was wrong, that the legal system is broken. And and I hope this doesn't happen to you, but I think it might. You're gonna have this moment where you're like, I'm the only sane person left in this circus.

So, regardless of what my attorney says, I want to fire off this email. I'm gonna text my ex. I'm gonna go post something crazy on Facebook. Your brain says, forget it, I'm just gonna handle this myself. And then you know what happens? You have just made your divorce 10 times more expensive. So today we're talking about why reasonably smart people make really

Dumb decisions during their divorce. And we're gonna help you stop yourself before you blow up your case add a whole bunch of zeros to your bottom line on this episode of How Not to Suck at

our guest today has probably watched more people blow up their own divorce more than anyone else you ever want to meet.

Today we are talking with Daniel Bloom. He is an Atlanta-based family law attorney who has practiced exclusively in family law for decades and does a ton of Guardian ad lietum work, meaning he has seen just about every angle of wacky divorces imaginable.

Morgan Stogsdill (:

Welcome.

Dan Bloom (:

yeah, that's

Thank you.

Morgan Stogsdill (:

Daniel, Dan, what would you prefer?

Dan Bloom (:

anything but Danny. Usually Dan, Daniel if you're mad at me, but anything but Danny, please.

Morgan Stogsdill (:

What when I would call you, Danny, what would happen?

Dan Bloom (:

well the only two people who've been allowed to call me Danny are my cantor who taught me my bar mitzvah growing up and one ⁓ now retired domestic relations attorney in Atlanta who said it just to piss me off and I just played along with him. Otherwise it really doesn't happen. ⁓

Morgan Stogsdill (:

All right, Danny, let's go. Just kidding. Just kidding. So

before I hop in and I have some questions for you, I just want to make sure that if you are a new listener to this podcast and you're wondering what the hell is a Guardian ad lietum and what are we talking about? I want you to know that it really depends on where you are jurisdiction wise, what happens in the place that you're living. But basically what we're talking about is a protector for lack of a better term of the children.

Somebody who is tasked with being potentially where I practice the eyes and ears of the court. Somebody who's investigating what's going on and what's in the best interests of the children. he has a lot of experience with children-related issues. That's why we wanted him to come on this podcast. So that makes him the perfect person to answer today's question.

Why do otherwise smart people make spectacularly bad decisions during divorce and what can they do instead?

Dan Bloom (:

divorce in general, I think defines the battle of the emotional versus the intellectual, right? Intellectually you kinda have an idea of what it looks like, but then emotions take over because everything that happened that led up to this point is valid, it's real, it it matters. But by the time you get

To court and hopefully you don't get to court. But decisions get made based on like 1% of the factors that actually brought you to that point. But you're at rock bottom when you get there, right? And especially if you have somebody like me involved as a guardian, you're having a complete stranger come into your life to help you figure out what to happen with your kids. So everybody's at their worst. Nobody is making decisions that are not.

andrea (:

Mm-hmm.

Dan Bloom (:

influenced by their valid and legitimate emotions. And our job is to get in there and say, okay, let's separate those two. Let's not make really stupid fucking decisions that impact your ability to co-parent with your spouse, that are going to come back to bite you with your kids. I and the attorneys get to leave this mess when it's all over with. Y'all don't, right? So let's just figure out a way to make this work and

compartmentalize our emotions in a way that still allows you to have them and to feel them, but that doesn't impact the way you operate on a daily basis.

Morgan Stogsdill (:

one of the things that I think about is what would I be like if I was a client instead of the divorce attorney here? And we all know it's cliche. Divorce is emotional. We can say that all we want. But the reality is what would really drive me crazy just knowing myself because I'm such an A type personality. I'm one of those people that likes to make the list. I like to check off the list. Once it's checked off, are you trying to make fun of me when I'm having a moment?

andrea (:

No.

How are we

shocked over here?

Morgan Stogsdill (:

yes, I am a type A personality and I'm proud of it.

And I know myself and I know that I like to check things off the boxes and then I don't want to think about it again. And I want things done when I want things done. And the problem with divorce is that it's not how it works. The waiting is awful. You people think that when they file for divorce, it's like fireworks go off and now you're off to the races. But the fact of the matter is there's a lot of silence. There's a lot of waiting. And when you have silence in a divorce, you don't have silence in your head. You have

Dan Bloom (:

Mm-hmm.

Morgan Stogsdill (:

silence and maybe the legal system, right? So silence feels like nothing is happening. And people, especially like me, feel like they need to do something. So tell us, Dan, during this time when there's more silence than there is action, what's happening behind the scenes that clients don't see? What's going on?

Dan Bloom (:

Right. Right. Right.

Mm-hmm.

Well, that's

whenever I'm introducing myself to clients and my role, I address that very issue. I'll say, look, there'll be times that you're thinking, What the fuck is Dan doing? Why isn't he jumping in on this? Because there are other times that I'm responding to an email within 15 minutes. But part of it is, like I said a few minutes ago, we get to leave this when it's all over with, and they don't. So if every time an issue pops up, I jump in and say,

here here's how I think this should get resolved, or what about this, or what about this? I don't get to see how parents are behaving in the wild. So a lot of times what I tell people is, not a lot of times, I always tell people, if you feel like nothing's getting done or you're not, that doesn't mean I'm not active. It just means I am observing so I can see if an issue pops up about how your kid's gonna get to soccer or about who's gonna buy shit for school. ⁓ if I jump in and say you're gonna do it, or you're gonna do it, or you're gonna take it, I I don't know what's gonna happen when I'm out.

So I wanna make sure that I see how people are gonna behave and interact without somebody jumping in all the time to tell what to do.

Morgan Stogsdill (:

Dan, I think that's such an important distinction because I think there's this misconception when clients have a guardian or a child's rep or somebody appointed to their case either by agreement or by a court to talk about what's the best interest of the children. What they think in their head is, ⁓ here we are. We've got effectively a savior, a judge that's coming on that's just going to call balls and strikes. But what Dan just said is exactly it. They're there to observe.

Dan Bloom (:

Yeah.

Morgan Stogsdill (:

they're not going to call balls and strikes on every little issue. They're trying to figure out can you effectively co-parent with the other parent or solve these issues on their own, because if not, that's where Dan's stepping in to say, hey, this might not work long term.

andrea (:

And what you guys haven't mentioned is how long it takes to get anything done if it's not an emergency. If there's if there's a court date set and our minds, the people who are going through this, we're like, So when's that gonna happen on Thursday? You're like, actually that's gonna happen on August seventeenth. And you're like, Bitch, it's February.

Dan Bloom (:

Right.

and if it's February and it's happening on August seventeenth, that's pretty quick. Right? So but it but you know, but it but you know what people is depending on the judge, you know, and depending on how it works, you never know. I mean, we have cases that we need to get stuff done for a couple of you know, waiting for a couple of years. And and to your point of what's an emergency, very little is an emergency to the court, right?

andrea (:

Okay, that made me want to throw up. Like

Right.

That's huge. Okay. And everybody just hang on. Hold on. everything as a parent feels like an emergency. and not only as a parent, Let's just talk about anything in a divorce. Anything bad that happens that threatens our sense of security.

Right, that threatens our sense of are things okay in my life right now. If we check the no-box, our brain automatically lights up and tells us, run, bear in the woods, there's an emergency. The court doesn't see it that way. And Dan, Morgan, with all due respect, we do not give a fuck.

About what's happening behind the scenes. We just don't because we care about what's happening in our hearts and in our brains. And that's why we need to have this conversation. Because what happens is we become completely controlled by our by our racing thoughts, by our emotions.

Dan Bloom (:

One of the things I tell clients about an emergency, because I agree, when it's your life everything's an emergency. But there may actually be an emergency one day that a court would consider would consider an emergency. And if you have a lawyer who titles every request an emergency, when the judge sees it come across their desk, they're gonna go, This is not a fucking emergency because that

Lawyer says everything's an emergency. So I've been practicing for thirty something years and I've filed less than ten emergencies, right? And because of that, if I tell a judge it's an emergency, I get an emergency hearing because they know I'm not bullshitting them. So it's important to let a client know that your lawyer is using their discretion in what to call an emergency, and that, if there really is an emergency, is gonna help you in the long run. So yeah.

andrea (:

That status staggering to me. I

cannot believe that you've only filed ten emergencies in that amount of time.

Dan Bloom (:

No. I mean yes.

Yes. I mean it it just but because I want a judge to believe me. I I mean, first of all, you know, none of us want to lose, right? But I I also want a judge if I throw something out there and I throw it out for a client three months earlier, but I know it's bullshit, right? My clo my next client is gonna suffer because of that. Because all we have is our reputation before a judge.

andrea (:

Mm-hmm.

Dan Bloom (:

and so we have to be really careful about that because if we ruin our reputation, that affects every subsequent client we have, ⁓ and their children. So we have to be really careful about that. You know.

Morgan Stogsdill (:

And I want to talk about the hidden cost of going rogue because I get it. I I get that maybe you don't like the advice that I've given you because it doesn't move as fast as you want it to. Or maybe you just want what you really want. Or you don't think your attorney is really kind of dialed into how big of a deal it is. And so then you go and you do it.

And then it lands back in the attorney's plate to figure out how to fix everything or make it look less problematic. But what you're buying yourself, there's hidden costs. You have to think, and this is the my theme of the episode. You can't think in a vacuum. You've got to think long term. This is a long-term play. We always say, Andrea and I always say at the end of every episode that divorce is a marathon, it is not a sprint. When you are thinking about every little thing we're talking about, we are thinking about how does it fit into the marathon. So

Dan Bloom (:

That's it.

Morgan Stogsdill (:

If you go rogue, what's the hidden cost? One, a lot of costs out of your pocket, probably extra motions, maybe emergency hearings or at least attempted emergency hearings. I've had clients on the other side do crazy things and get sanctioned by the judge monetarily. Attorneys fees skyrocket. And don't forget that you might win something right away, but long term you could lose or lose your credibility based upon growing going rogue.

Dan Bloom (:

Mm-hmm.

Right.

Right.

andrea (:

But

help me wrap my arms around this. What does that what does going rogue actually look like?

Dan Bloom (:

I'll give you

I'll give you a recent example If I'm representing a client and there's a guardian involved, and there is a request from another parent, the other parent regarding wanting some parenting time, right? And you know the allegation is out there that your client is somehow restrictive.

andrea (:

Mm-hmm.

Dan Bloom (:

and how they are allowing the other parent to see the child. But your client, in response to a request, wants to send an email back, wants you to send an email back, and you look at it and you go, there's no fucking way I'm sending that email back. Right? That is going to come back to bite you. There's a guardian involved. It's not going to happen. You need to trust me on this. I've been doing this a long time. To your point, Morgan, let's not win the battle and give away the war, right? We this is a long-term issue.

the client who I was fine, she went and found, she fired me and found a lawyer who would send the email, The email was sent. The next day, an emergency motion was filed by the other side with the exact email that I refused to send attached to it. And things have gone very, very south for that former client since then. Right?

andrea (:

How much

money, if you were to guess, give me a price tag.

Dan Bloom (:

⁓ she I have no idea because she owes me money, but she probably has spent she's probably spent an extra thirty thousand dollars based on some bullshit.

andrea (:

N What's her name? We'll tag her. I'm just kidding.

Thir okay, so thirty thousand dollars, you guys, not to mention we're talking about her life and kids. Like money is one thing, and thirty grand ain't no joke. First of all, I love how many metaphors we're talking about prone balls and strikes, we're talking about battles and wars. Like, what has this episode turned into?

Morgan Stogsdill (:

Easy. Easy.

Dan Bloom (:

Mm-hmm. Right. But and and there's,

you know, there's even things that don't have financial. I mean, to your point, Morgan, earlier, when clients say, Can I just I just want to have sex with somebody, I just want to date somebody. I'm like, we're in the bottom of the ninth. There may be no legal ramification to it, but the emotional cost, it's gonna cost you money, it's gonna delay settlement. Just keep it in your pants for like another three weeks.

Morgan Stogsdill (:

Impossible. Impossible.

andrea (:

That's what I that's what I tell

Morgan every day. Morgan, keep it in your pants. She's dying.

Morgan Stogsdill (:

Well, the other thing that I wanna say too, to your point, is is the fact that clients get impatient and they make these decisions. And good lawyers have a strategy. They have a theme to your case, right? So they've got this whole theme of like, how am I gonna show my client's the good guy, the other client is the bad guy? And we always talk Dan on our podcast about Chad and Brenda.

So let's put it into Chad and Brenda terms. Okay, I represent Brenda.

Brenda's pretty good. Chad is off the rails. And I plan to show that Chad's off the rails. But then Brenda gets, and poor Chad. Well Brenda gets impatient, can't can't wait for what I'm doing because it takes time and goes and does something rogue. Let's say she emails Chad's employer and says Chad's a complete lunatic and did X, Y, and Z to me. Super wise move, right? So now what happens when we get let's just say we have to go to a trial.

Dan Bloom (:

A really wise move.

andrea (:

Sound smart. Good job, Brenda.

Morgan Stogsdill (:

Brenda had an awesome case going to trial. My theme was on point. Brenda looks so good. And then she sends this email and just completely blows up her entire case. She looks like with that one email, the complete lunatic. Now we're dead in the water.

Dan Bloom (:

Yep. Yep.

Yep. I mean I say it it do if if you if the other party is behaving like a lunatic, let it happen. Do not meet them. Do not meet them. Send that email to me, your lawyer. However you send it to me and it will go in a file.

andrea (:

That is so hard. That is so hard.

Coming from someone who lived this, and I cannot stress this enough. I hear my my friends, our dear listeners, I know how hard it is to let someone hang themselves. You don't it you I heard that so many times, Andrea, sit back and let it happen. They're gonna hang themselves. And you're like, but put, but, but and it and it doesn't even have to be as bold as Brenda sending an email to Chad's employee. It could be something minor that you that like.

Dan Bloom (:

Yes.

andrea (:

Your attorney could say, Brenda, do not email Chad again about this. Stop emailing Chad.

Dan Bloom (:

Right. Glue

your thumbs to your palms and get off your phone now.

andrea (:

And

then Brenda has one extra espresso martini and she's like, guess what, motherfucker? Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. It sets everything off. You've added so many zeros to your case because of something that you just think is like funny or benign or snarky just to rub someone the wrong way. So we the people need some help.

Dan Bloom (:

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Yeah.

andrea (:

Morgan, Dan, give us some action steps. What do we do differently when our hearts and our brains want to go scorched earth rogue?

Morgan Stogsdill (:

I'm gonna teach we the people something in my mind. And then I'm going to turn it over to Dan because I have one thing that I want you to think about. When you want to go rogue, and and this is something you wouldn't know, I want you to step back for a moment. I want you to take twenty-four hours. I want you to get a a call with your lawyer because what I want you to do is I want you to say, Hey, hypothetically, if I were to not take your advice and I were to do what I want to do.

How would that affect my case long term? Because that's where nobody's thinking about is the long term. And we're going back to the metaphors, the war. How does that affect the war? I know how it'll affect the battle. I might win right away. But what does that do? And then you decide whether that risk is worth it. That's the number one thing I would ask. Dan, what do you have?

Dan Bloom (:

Mm-hmm.

so first get a really good therapist, Because I'm a I'm a pretty good counselor at law and my background's in therapy, but I'm a lot more expensive than a good therapist, right? So if you're having those issues.

I tag team with therapists all the time. Let's get on a call with your therapist and figure out where we can put this emotion in a way that's not going to sabotage your case. well, well, you know, I mean, depending on how attractive the therapist is. It you know, it it could I mean we have some attractive therapists in Atlanta, right?

andrea (:

Yep. Now it's getting kinky.

Listen, I'm tag teaming a therapist is just okay. But I love but I but I love where this is going because this

is what's so important. we have to have enough accountability to see I need some emotional support. And this is not this is not just a legal thing. This is a me hurting thing, which is totally allowed.

Dan Bloom (:

And and it's and it's real. And we're attorneys and counselors at law. So when I talk to people, so I'm like, look, I am now using my counselor at law education and not my attorney at law education. Because I've been there. I was a magistrate, judge in the family court for five years. I see how this shit goes down, right? Just trust me. The other thing I suggest is look, there are a bunch of good attorneys, there are a lot of bad attorneys, but there's some other good attorneys. Go buy an hour of their time.

And see what their opinion is on this because you know what? You and I may not be a good match. And that is completely and totally fine. Right? But go get an opinion from someone else. And if that seems to fit better with you, we can talk about it. And maybe there is a road that works better for you. Because I may not always be right. So consult with somebody else. There's nothing I get lawyers who call me all the time and say, Hey, I have a client who, you know, he or she is not really.

Sure about what's going on, or they're working with the guardian and they're not really comfortable with the advice I'm giving or how it's going. put together a team, So that you have a team of support during this process because it's fucking brutal, I understand people wanting to go rogue. When look, I'm a I'm happily married with two kids who are going to be 20 next month. I still want to go rogue sometimes, I mean, so I get it, but you are dealing with

the rest of your kids lives in this process. And you can't fuck that up.

andrea (:

Morgan, what are your thoughts on going and getting a consultation with somebody else? I saw you had like a reaction. I think that you're aligned.

Morgan Stogsdill (:

Would I'm aligned. I'm actually kind of shocked that Dan actually says that to clients because from a lawyer's perspective, I know lawyers are concerned about losing a client, but also from my perspective, I also fire clients as well. And I agree with you, Dan. What I what I try to do is find a good personality fit, right? And if it's not, it could be just a personality problem. It could be that they just don't understand how you're communicating or how I'm communicating,

Dan Bloom (:

Yes. It's my favorite thing to do.

Right.

Morgan Stogsdill (:

But most the time when I have people come to me from other lawyers and they're upset about something, rarely am I like, yeah, that lawyer messed up. I most of the time I'm like, Yeah, you've got a bad judge. The the facts are what they are. You're unreasonable, whatever it is. So I'm kind of impressed that you say that. at times I'm quicker to say, This isn't a good fit, go find another lawyer rather than go interview somebody.

Dan Bloom (:

Right.

Yes.

Yeah.

when people come to me for a second opinion, it has to be pretty egregious for me to say to somebody, yeah, you need to jump ship. And my typical response, assuming I mean it's like, look, I this is hard, There is no perfect answer all the time.

andrea (:

So I want to recap these action steps. So, number one, no. It's a hard no. It's a no from me, dog. For 24 hours, you will do nothing. You gotta stop. You are not gonna make a good decision when you are keyed up. We say this to you on every single episode. If you are feeling more than you are thinking, that is a good indication that you need to stop. Do nothing. First thing that Dan mentioned is

You might need some therapy. You might need some emotional attention. And I'm gonna take out the might. You probably do. If you are, if you are having that trigger inside of your body that's saying, I can't, I can't, I don't like this, I don't like this, I don't like this. We probably deserve to have somebody who can really help support you mentally and emotionally here. And they're gonna come at a much lower price than your attorney. And your attorney is not a licensed therapist.

And then lastly, if you are really feeling like your case is not going in the direction that you feel like it should be going, you have the right to have a consultation with somebody else. And when you have that consultation, we actually have guides that we sell on our website about this. We give you the questions that you should ask them. You give them all the facts and you say, knowing this, do would you have a different strategy?

What it what would the strategy be? You might find that there's not another strategy. I mean, I can tell you guys, I went through this in my divorce where I had a moment where I'm like, God, what the fuck? And I had another call and it was, Andrea, this just sucks. It is what it is, but nothing is going to change. And that sucks to hear, but wouldn't you rather?

Dan Bloom (:

Right.

Mm-hmm.

andrea (:

Get that information, then take matters into your own hands and make things a whole lot worse. I think so. Before we wrap this conversation, I want to play a little game if you guys are up for it, because this conversation has been so boring and you have no personality, Dan. But I want to do a little lightning round. So I want you guys to complete the sentence. First thing that comes to mind, and Morgan, it can't always be about sex with you, okay?

Dan Bloom (:

Got

andrea (:

I immediately know a client is about to make a bad decision when what, Morgan?

Morgan Stogsdill (:

Every email that I send telling them what my I recommend, they fight me on the way back. Every response is a fight.

andrea (:

Okay, Dan, you immediately know a client is about to make a bad decision when

Dan Bloom (:

She sent me a friend request on Facebook.

andrea (:

my god, I love that. Okay. The email subject line I never want to see is what, Morgan?

Morgan Stogsdill (:

I'm in jail.

Dan Bloom (:

Yeah.

andrea (:

Dan, the email subject line I never want to see is

Dan Bloom (:

Govern yourself accordingly.

andrea (:

Govern yourself again.

Morgan Stogsdill (:

What does that even mean?

Dan Bloom (:

It it

means do what I say, behave, or when there is a deadline, because if you give me a deadline and a subject matter line, I'm gonna miss it. Right? Yeah.

andrea (:

⁓ yikes. Okay,

I'm gonna we've got two more. Morgan, one thing every divorcing person should never text their ex.

Morgan Stogsdill (:

I don't care what the judge says.

andrea (:

⁓ okay. Dan, one thing. I know where this is gonna go and I can't wait. Dan, one thing every divorcing person should never text their ex.

Dan Bloom (:

anything about their penis size.

andrea (:

And that, my friends, is all the time we have for today. Okay, last one. Biggest myth about divorce.

Dan Bloom (:

Yeah.

Morgan Stogsdill (:

It's gonna be fast and easy.

andrea (:

God, that was that were we talking about penis sizes again or ⁓ Dan, biggest myth about divorce?

Dan Bloom (:

Ha ha

Morgan Stogsdill (:

I hope not.

Dan Bloom (:

⁓ that you have to stop caring about your spouse during the process.

andrea (:

Ooh, that took a whole different turn that I was not expecting.

that one really gave me some food for thought. I think we're gonna need a follow-up conversation on that. Dan, Daniel, never Danny, Bloom. Thank you so much for having this conversation with us today. I hope, and I know that we just saved people a whole lot of money. And we the people are forever

andrea (:

the biggest thing that I keep thinking about here is how hard this information is to apply. And that's again where I wish like one day we are going to have a magic wand that we create and make it easier for people to take our advice. Cause I think intellectually everybody gets it. And I'm sure everybody is sitting there nodding their heads in their car while they're driving to work. But I just want to validate

it is really tough to apply what we said because you want so badly to have something happen so quickly.

Morgan Stogsdill (:

I I couldn't agree more and it is frustrating. It's frustrating for us too. Remember this. I and not that it matters, but lawyers want to do good by their clients. They want to do well for you. So it's frustrating for you when we see that you're frustrated at the process or the timing and our hands are tied. And so the only thing at times we can do is manage the clients a little bit better, more conversations, et cetera. But ultimately there are people out there that just can't get

get through it without going rogue and that's what we're trying to avoid.

andrea (:

I want to let everybody know that we have a brand new free guide for everybody. So we want to help you avoid really big divorce mistakes, like you know, and that's exactly why we created the divorce crash course. But if you need some information that's maybe gonna help you understand, do I even need the divorce crash course? What are these areas where I could be really fucking things up?

I want you to go to our website. You will see a place where you can get a free guide that is gonna help you frame your mind and see some areas where you could use some more support. So go to our website for that direct link in our show notes.

Morgan Stogsdill (:

And if you need more support, we have the free online community through Facebook. We're on all the socials. Reach out to us. We respond. And remember this: that divorce is a marathon. It is not a sprint. Every day is not going to be a good day. We understand that. Some days it's day by day, and others it's hour by hour. But the fact of the matter is you're in the process, you're going through it. You the train has left the station, and in a few years, you are going to be fantastic.

andrea (:

Listen to all of these episodes. This is why we do the show. Go through our library. We have so many episodes that are gonna help you no matter where you're at. Post questions in the private community. I know that your arms are tired from doggy paddling. You gotta keep swimming. You will get to the other side of this thing. And if you listen to your attorney, you will get to the other side of this thing for a whole

whole lot less money and with a lot fewer band-aids. I know that you can do this. I know that you can do this. My friends, you have got this.

Morgan Stogsdill (:

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