What if one of the greatest gifts we could give our children is the ability to trust themselves?

In this inspiring episode, Carly Church welcomes internationally recognized communication scientist, holistic speech pathologist, speaker, and bestselling author Sonia Bestulic to discuss what it truly means to raise empowered, emotionally resilient children.

Sonia shares how self-leadership begins with parents doing their own inner work, why children naturally mirror our emotional state, and how simple everyday interactions become powerful opportunities to build confidence, intuition, and emotional intelligence.

Together they discuss:

• Raising children who trust themselves

• Emotional regulation for the whole family

• Helping children build self-leadership

• The power of intuition and presence

• Why children need contribution—not perfection

• Supporting neurodivergent children through movement and rhythm

• Creating calm through environment, sound, and connection

• Parenting in the age of technology and AI

This conversation is filled with practical parenting wisdom, thoughtful reflection, and empowering strategies that help parents move beyond survival and raise children who flourish from the inside out.

Connect with Sonia Bestulic

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soniabestulic.com

Book:

Five Golden Keys to Raising Empowered Humans

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Hello everyone, welcome to the "We Got U Mama" show. I am so happy you've joined us today because I have my friend Sonia here, all the way from Australia. She woke up at the crack of dawn and she's like, "Good morning!" I'm like, "No, it's more like afternoon." She's like, "No, it's 6:00 a.m." And I was like,

"Oh yeah, the sun has not risen yet over there." But thank you so much for hopping on, on this crazy, you know, time zone train that, like, I still can't grasp. But I really, really appreciate it. So let me introduce you to Sonia Basulik, who is a globally recognized thought leader and coach.

She's a four-time award-winning children's adult and adult author—children adult. I have a children adult. I don't know what they're called, like, teenagers.

Yes.

And she's an international speaker. She's renowned for blending human sciences with spiritual and energetic wisdom. So we're going to talk more about that, but she is a communication scientist, holistic speech pathologist, Reiki master, and intuitive life and business strategist. Sonia founded and led a Sydney-based speech pathology company for over 18 years.

I know, she doesn't even look old enough to, like, you know, have done that. And she has been empowering thousands of children through that, and families and professionals worldwide. And she is now the founder and chief of flourishing officer. Founder and chief flourishing officer. Have you ever heard that before?

It's a little bit of a contrast. Of Flourish with Sonia, offering transformational self-leadership coaching, training, consulting. So she does a lot of consulting while developing conscious content, right, and products.

Yeah.

We talk about her books and stuff that nurture lifelong flourishing in children and families all across the globe. Her latest book is "Five Golden Keys to Raising Empowered Humans," and it presents a groundbreaking fusion of science and spirit and practical tools, guiding individuals to lead, to parent, and flourish from the inside out,

which I know we really, really need in our families more than ever. So her work offers a grounded path towards clarity, intuition. We've been talking a lot about that lately, about, like, getting clear and following our intuition. And that self-leadership, right? And bridging. She bridges ancient wisdom, which I think we all need to lean back into,

is what can we draw, right, from the past. And energetic medicine with empowered communication and human potential communication. I've been hearing that even in my morning meetings today, all about, like, communication and, like, how much of it are we losing in this age of tech and AI.

Yeah.

You know, people, like, are we all going to have hunchbacks from looking down at our phones? You know what I mean?

Yeah.

So tell us more about your book and about your, you know, journey into what you're doing now.

Yeah. Okay. Well, first up, thank you for having me, Carly. And thank you for the long intro and for everyone for listening through that. I'm excited to be here, and I'm very passionate about really bringing us all back to remembering what it means to be human and the power of that.

And that's a big part of what fueled me writing "Five Golden Keys to Raising Empowered Humans." So yes, it's about leading our children and raising them in a way that they are self-leaders, yeah, which is what we all want as parents at the end of the day. We don't want them relying on us. We don't want them delegating their power to systems and to the external.

We want them to come into their own wisdom, to stand in the truth of their own gifts, and to share that with the world. It's like, that's why we're here, right? So that's a big part of the book. Obviously, the other big part is, for that to be enabled, we need to be parenting our own evolution. That's the big one.

We can't delegate our inner work. That's the thing I keep reminding people of. Like, we can delegate till the cows come home. I don't know if you have that phrase in the US.

We do.

We can delegate till the cows come home, but we can't delegate our inner work. And kids are our biggest mirrors. They mirror back all the wonderfulness and all the things that we need to actually grab onto and embrace and work through, process, transmute into higher frequency, right?

So that we can enjoy flourishing in life and get out of the survival pattern. So yeah, so the book is very practical. It brings a lot of practical exercises and activities. It's for parents, for carers, it's for teachers, it's for clinicians. Because obviously, being a clinician is a big background for me.

But any professional who works with children, we all play a role. The field that we carry and the energy that we carry, that's our responsibility. And it's contagious, right? So when we walk into a room, regardless of who. Our energetic field is what is communicating before our words do. So we want to be nurturing and nourishing that.

So does that give you a little bit of an overview as to some of the things that I'm going to dive into?

Yeah. It's like, you know, how do we get ourselves, you know, I mean, we hear the word "regulation" a lot. We're regulated, right? How do we get ourselves grounded, emotionally regulated? How do we get our nervous systems regulated? I think we're just so burnt out from, like, all ends, right? And that stress, it does.

It bleeds into our children. And you and I have talked about this, and it bleeds into the children, and then they take that out into the world, and then that's in the community, right? And then now all of a sudden, everyone's all, "Don't we feel it?" It's around here. Everyone's all, like, their shoulders are up to gear.

Yeah, we feel it because it's a disconnect from the truth of what it means to be human. And when you talk about regulation, and I share about this as well, it's coming back to the rhythm of what it means to be human. And so there are ways we can do that because at the moment, there's a lot of ways we can be out of rhythm. Like, it's not hard to be out of rhythm.

And that's due to various things, whether it is the screens, whether it is just being away from nature, whether it is being indoors all the time, whether, you know, it's all of those things. It can be the lighting. It can be the environment of what you've got physically in your space. Like, it's all those things, right? As we know, everything is energy.

So how are we actually nurturing and nourishing that? So the disconnect from our natural rhythm, that's where a lot of us are. And that also has a lot of us in the mental plane, in our heads, in our thoughts, in our fears, in our... So we're kind of cycling in that space. And that disconnects us from, "What's my heart saying?

What does my soul know?" Right? That's the truth. That's the wisdom. And so when you kind of go, "Right, I'm going to slow down. I'm going to tap into that part of my body," then it's like, "Okay, can we get the energy flow?" You can't see my whole hand, but it's like, "Can we get the energy flowing through our system, metabolizing things that we don't need anymore?" You know, are we practicing that?

But not just practicing that as an individual, but are we, like, practicing it and embodying it so that our space is aligned energetically with what we want to represent in our body, aligned with the content that we're consuming? Is that of a high frequency? Is it pure and clean enough that it aligns, yeah, with the rhythm of our body?

The people that I am communicating with or interacting with, is that aligned with? Yeah? So it's a constant, I guess, kind of... I keep saying nurturing and nourishing because that's what it is. It's constantly being aware of what is keeping me in that space of keeping me uplifted and elevated.

It doesn't mean that I'm happy hoo-ha all the time because being excited is dysregulated too, right? It's not our natural rhythm.

Right.

And I didn't realize that, Carly. I remember years in '21 when my third book, "Flourish for Mums," came out. I was so excited. And it was an exciting time. It was a celebrating time. But I was so excited so constantly that I remember saying to my mentor at the time, I was like, "Is there such a thing as excitement fatigue?" Because I'm damn tired.

You know, I was like, "What is going on?" Like, "Isn't this a good thing?" No. Like, you're dysregulated when you're excited. Your heart beats up. You're like, all the same physiological symptoms as anxiety are in excitement. And that's why when kids are excited about their birthday coming up, it's like, "Woohoo!" And then the birthday comes, and then they just crash.

Right.

And then they get meltdowns and then, right? Because their system has been dysregulated all that time.

Right. Interesting.

These are the things, like, I didn't understand that, right? But now I'm like, "Okay." So when I have to share that, because when I say uplift and elevate, it's not about being happy all the time. It's really, you can be joyful and you can be grounded and you can be present.

Sure.

Right? And that's a beautiful state to be in.

Yeah. Yeah. And I think present is... People being present, I have found in my interactions, has been the hardest thing lately, more than ever. Even getting people to, like, listen to you talk.

Yeah.

I'm like, I could be shouting anything and this person is, like, looking right through me or super distracted. And I'm like, "What is happening to these people?" Not even locking in with one another to listen, even if it's small talk, to listen to what one another is saying to each other.

Yeah.

It's kind of alarming, right?

Yeah. It's huge. And we don't want to normalize that, you know? And I call that fragmented attention. And when we're functioning in fragmented attention, then we're almost normalizing that way of operating. And it's quite a, again, it's quite a disconnected way of operating, as you've just described.

And whether that person's saying it or not, you're feeling it. You're feeling energetically that they're not connecting with you. They're not listening. Even if someone's doing the motions.

Right.

Right? You're like, "I'm not feeling you connecting with me at a heart level."

Right.

Yeah? And so, yeah, it's happening a lot, that fragmentation. And again, it takes practice.

Right.

What do I need to do to be present? Whether that is, and often, you know, you're coming back into your body. When you go for a walk, are you noticing what is around you? Or are you stuck in your head? You know, like, there's a tree. There are the leaves. Let me be with this flower. Let me... Like, that's practicing presence. When you're with your children, you know, are you down at their level?

Are you face to face? Are you, yeah, right there? And if you can't offer that, if you can't offer that, can you delay until you can? So an example is, you know, say you're busy. Let's just say you're busy prepping dinner and your kid comes up like, "Hey, Mom." Like, if you can't give them the attention that you want to give them,

that you need to give them, and this is obviously depending on their age, but if they're little lies, you know, turn to them, get down to their level. "Hey, I really want to listen to you, and I want to hear what you have to say. I'm going to be two minutes now." For some kids, if they're little, they don't understand two minutes. So you might,

"I'm going to finish doing this." So, and you might set them up with, you know, whatever that is, "Here's a puzzle," or, "Here's something," or whatever it is, so that they know that time concept of, "This is when Mum's going to be ready for me."

Right.

Yeah?

And kids love that.

They do love it.

They love expectations. They love, right?

Correct. Clarity of boundaries and that they matter. Yeah? And that you want to be fully with them. So even that moment of just acknowledging them completely, that already is like, "Oh, she heard me. She's validating that I do have something important to say."

Yeah. You know that thing that went viral with the Olympic medalists, that she did an interview with, like, the toddler on her hip, and he was grabbing her face and grabbing her face. And I wanted her to do that so much on camera. I wanted her to be like, it was like, "Oh, she's a mom. She's doing so much. She's juggling,

blah, blah, blah." And I was like, "Yeah, but I also wanted her to, like, she's doing that, be like, 'Hang on, interviewer.' And like, 'Babe, I'm doing this fun interview.' Like, can you get..." You know, I mean, even if he continued to do the motions, like, I wanted her to have that moment of, like, on camera to give the example of,

like, we could also be doing something in there around in your ear, but then, like, to face, to acknowledge, to let them know. I also think that, like, they can't go through life interrupting you all the time. You know what I mean? We've probably seen those parents too who, like, whatever their kid needs something,

oh, they're right there and they've cut off a conversation or they've cut off doing something and then they're off, you know, and then their kid is always getting what they want when they want at any given time. And that's not, that doesn't set them up for, like, success in real life, right? That's not a thing that they're going to get throughout their health.

Yes. Correct.

So recognizing, right, and validating what their needs and then coming back to them when you're readily available to do so.

Totally. And it's okay to communicate your needs as well in a loving way. And that's something that, again, as parents, as moms, we don't always do that. We actually get lost in communicating what we need because sometimes we can be so overly externally focused on what do they need. So sometimes just that little, in those little interactions,

and I used to do this a lot when my kids were little because they were all born in two and a half years. So when they were little, for me, it was really important to soak myself in a bath with candlelit, you know, candlelit bath time with music, classical music, with the lavender bath salts. And they knew,

like I would say to them, when the bath was running, they were just like, "Oh, mum time. You know, Mum's going to have mum time." They knew it. They respected it. And it just became normal that Mum would have mum time in the bath and they would be busy with other activities. They wouldn't come knocking on the door with, you know, so.

They don't need, and they shouldn't have to have access to you all the time because we're seeing that a lot in teenagers too, right? The cell phone. Like, they will, "Oh, but they have constant access to you at any given time to text you during school.

I need this," or, "Can you do this?" Or, "I'm feeling this way." Like you said, there has to be a way to teach them to self-regulate, to self-lead because we're not going to be holding their hand, like, into adulthood. And we're finding, you know,

even parents that are like, "I don't know how to kick my adult kid out of the house. They've relied on me so heavily for so long." And I'm like, "Well, whose fault is that?" I know it's both sides, but, like, you kind of enable that to, and they're starting to recognize that, like, "Oh, my gosh. What did I do?"

Yeah. Yeah. And I think, you know, there's a balance of, you know, don't feel crap about yourself. If you feel like you're in that moment, don't feel guilty because that energetically is a low vibe. You don't need to be there. You don't need the shame to be there. The awareness that you've picked it up and gone, "Ah, I can see clearly now," you're already miles ahead of the game.

So you just go, "Right, I'm aware of this. What is the most empowering thing I can do for myself and for my child?" That's the next question you ask. And, you know, kids are just humans generally. We actually love to contribute. We love to be able to be part of a solution. So, you know,

when, regardless of age, we as humans want to feel we have a purpose, which we all do, right? So I bring this up because this is part of the empowerment model, isn't it? Right? Even for little things at home, when it comes to making a decision, don't feel like you've got to make all of them. Get their opinions. You can be the final decision maker, but have them contribute.

"What do you think about this?" You know, even if it's, "What shall we make for dinner?" And, "Why do you reckon we should make that?" Like, have them contribute. That's really, really important because otherwise, they become like the passive rule followers. Like, "Yeah, we got to follow rules," but we want them to be always actively contributing. And it starts with those little decisions each day.

Like, I remember, oh, it was probably a couple of years ago, so my son would have been like 11 years old, 12 maybe. Anyway, so, but he was at school at the library and the kids had just started catching public transport to school. So there was that independence. Amazing. But he was in the library, the school library, and he texted me.

He said, "What time do I need to be home?" I said, "You need to be home 5:30, having an early dinner." And then he wrote, "Well, so what time will I need to leave?" Trying to work out the calculations of, so I just wrote back and I said, "Just feel into it.

Just feel into whenever you need to leave and see how that works for you." And that was all that I wrote.

Yeah.

And he just wrote back, "Okay." Now I'm like, "That can be abstract. That can be, but let it be whatever it needs to be," right? He was pretty much home at 5:30 on the dot. And I was like, "How did that go for you? Like, did you do anything?

Did you race to the...?" He said, "No, I just felt like I knew when I had to go." I was like, "Amazing." Right? So those little invitations for those little decisions, that's where self-leadership starts. It starts in them trusting themselves in those little decisions, right?

And another example that I share, even in the book, is again with my son. We were building this Lego tower. Now, he wasn't a little little. He was probably, again, about 9 or 10. And he said to me, there were all these blocks on the floor. And he said, "Mum, I'm building it as tall as I can using all the blocks on the floor." I said, "Awesome." So I was just there, like, watching him build.

And he was building, he was building. And it's getting quite tall and like, you know, a bit questionable. And as he's getting to the top, he had one block left and he's like, he picks it up and he's going, "Hmm." He's getting nervous. And I'm just like, "Hmm." And he's like, "Oh." And then he said to me, "Mum," he's handing it to me.

He's like, "I don't trust myself when you put this block on." And I was like, "You know what, buddy?" He's like, "How about you put that last block on top? And if the tower falls, how about you trust yourself regardless?" And I'm like, "This is what it's about.

It's the micro moments. Place that last block on. Trust yourself to be able to do it. If it doesn't work out for you, trust yourself anyway that you can, you know, climb your way back up through that."

Right.

And in life, that's often where we fall down, right? It's like, "I've made a mistake. I've stuffed up. I can't trust myself. Let me just delegate all of my power to everyone else because I've been bitten by that. And now I've got to delegate all of my inner trust to everyone else and everybody else."

Yeah. We retract and our brains try to protect ourselves. And yeah.

Correct. So, and so this is what, you know, we often override or we dismiss all the little decisions and all the little things that are happening each day, but that's where the gold lies. That's where the training ground is. It's in all of that, right?

It's not the, like, the major stuff, sure, but it's all the little things that compound to teach us the little self-leadership gold nuggets. So, yeah, hopefully that helps give some context.

No, that's huge because we say that in, like, almost all things, right? All the little things add up. All the little things add up. And, you know, the minutes are and the days are long in motherhood and parenthood and those years are short. And when you think back, man,

how many times are you going to say, "I wish I would have," or, "I wish I would have," or, "I wish I would have"? We're always going to have some of that. But what if we start now with some of these tools and some of these things and it'll be such a game changer too. You know, it's all good things, right? It's all empowering things.

You're not going to mess them up by empowering themselves, empowering them to trust themselves, right? Sometimes it might take a little longer if you're like, "I will do the laundry." And is it easier to do yourself? Yeah, but eventually they're going to figure it out. And what will be easier? Them doing it themselves and participating. And it teaches them to participate in a community, right? And it starts in the home.

100%. And the teamwork, they love teamwork. Like when I used to do group therapy as a speech pathologist, when we used to do group therapy, kids loved being assigned roles. You know, like, "Okay, like, you've got to listen really carefully. You've got to design the builds," like if we're doing Lego therapy.

You know, everyone loved having a role because they're like, "Okay, I'm contributing in my way." They feel part of something bigger, right? So chores and even research, as you say, research backs this up. Chores are so important, not just as a life skill, but being part of contributing to community, contributing to life and knowing that they belong in the world,

right? Like, I'm here for a reason. I'm not just like here to be served constantly and like.

Take care of, yes, yourself, but also those around you. You know, don't just help your stuff, but if you, you know, help a sister out, help a mama out. Like, grab someone along the way that maybe doesn't belong to you. Be helpful.

100%. And I think, you know, that without us, and like, I had certainly had to do it with three kids all, you know, growing up together so close in age and going through different life transitions, you know, going through separation, going through divorce, going through, it's like, you know, those new transitions in the family dynamics.

It's like, "Hey, guys, we are creating as we're going. What new routines, what new rituals, what new things do we want to incorporate?" So it's not just about, you know, "Oh, my gosh, things are changing and things are different." It's like, "Things are changing. This is a new opportunity to create new ways of living and new ways of interacting together." And,

you know, so that you might want to call it mindset. Yes, it is mindset, but it's also a decision and it's a choice in how we show up. If something is hard, say it's hard. If you need to cry, cry.

You know, I remember chatting to a mum, oh, years ago, and she said she'd had a really hard day at work. She was at home at the end of the day. She was really struggling. And her little boy came up to her and was just, you know, trying to get her attention. And she said, "I just needed to hold it all together.

And I didn't want to cry. I wanted to hold it all together for my little boy." So, you know, but she said to me, he was only four. And he was saying, "Mum, what's wrong?" And she said, "I'm totally fine. I'm good. I'm good." Like, so she was there convincing him. And he then stopped asking her and he went away for some minutes.

And she said, "I just sat there going, I've got to be strong for my boy. I've got to hold it together. I'm not crying." She said, minutes later, he came back with his teddy and gave it to her and said, "This is for you, Mum." And then he walked away. And then she started crying. And I said,

"What do you think would have been the strongest thing to do to show that you're human and that crying actually helps you release?" I mean, you know, if.

A day to cry, period, whether you're four or 50, that like.

100%.

That's why it is.

Yeah. So little examples like that. Like, ask yourself, like, what is true strength? You know, I understand that we often, and as moms especially, we crave time to ourselves. Our spirit wants stillness, right? So that's another conversation, an important one, you know, how are we building in the stillness and the sacredness of time with ourselves?

That's a non-negotiable. So I completely understand that mom was probably like, "I just want to be on my own. I just want to feel all of this on my own." You can feel it on your own, but if you're feeling like those tears are there, don't hide it. Your child already knows that you're struggling. So what happens is when you say, "Yeah, I've had a really hard day.

And yeah, I'm crying because it just feels really hard in my body right now," you know what that does? That validates their trust in themselves because you're saying, "You have intuited correctly, my child," right? "You have read this situation accurately." We need to nourish their intuition so they can trust their vibes.

So these little situations are so important for them to go, "Ah, yeah, I was right. I was able to read that well." Then they're trusting their vibes with other things. When things feel off or when their vibe isn't quite right with someone walking down the street, they're, "I'm trusting my vibe. I'm going left." They can go right.

Right.

Yeah. So, you know, part of what I really love sharing, and, you know, obviously the book is really coming into awareness of these situations, of how we can really build leadership within ourselves and others in those simple yet really powerful ways. So, yeah.

I mean, it is so powerful because those kids grow up to be adults who are leading others, you know, as we all know.

We don't really, I think, really delve into that idea when we're looking at our four-year-old, like, "Oh, someday you're going to be a man and you're going to, you know, have a partner in life and a family." But we all can base how we turned out, right, from how we grew up and how we were raised or what have you.

But like you were saying, like, we're given choices, you know?

Yeah.

And again, how are we going to handle the hard and how are we going to move through it? I was very much a bottle upper, like, don't and then just fall apart at home. But bottle it up as much as possible. And that's dangerous. You know what I mean?

And it's dangerous also not to have, to feel like you have a safe space to come home to just let that all out.

I think a lot of times, and I know I have experienced this with my children, it's like, "I don't understand how you were getting raving reviews at school for being such a great listener and you're so kind to everyone." Because at home, they're like, "What?" You know what I mean?

And they're crying and they're angry and they're rude and they're verbally abusive.

Yeah.

It's because they feel safe and that's what we hear. "Oh, but they're safe. That means they feel safe to, like, do all those things at home." And.

Yes.

Sorry, excuse me. I'm going to grab my charger.

And what do you say to the parent who's like, "Yeah, great." How do you work through that with your kid when it's like they've been and for me, I've learned a lot. It's, you know, my girls have ADHD. And so one's, my oldest one's a 15, she's a highly emotional kid.

And my other one, she, I think she kind of does the masking all day, right? And so she does all the things. And not that, you know, she's very blunt and very out there. And I don't really feel like she thinks, you know, she's kind of putting on a show, but she tries really, really hard, right? And she likes to do well.

And then I just think at home, it's like, now I'm like, "Screw homework, screw structure, screw listening, screw," you know what I mean? And you're like, "Ooh." And so how do you handle that? How would you handle?

Yeah. Look, it's a lot of, look, it's a lot. Obviously, I've worked with a lot of neurodivergent people, individuals, families, you know, and I would say, you know, without a formal label, like, yes, I recognize, like, the labels and, you know,

within my own children to varying degrees and myself, to be quite honest, Kylie. And so I first up acknowledge, yeah, so much energy goes into kids holding it together, to their system holding it together, following the rules, sitting still, whatever they need to do.

Again, you know, the system has a long way to go to really meet us where we need to be met. But first, we've got to acknowledge that because, and I say that because we don't want to be reactive to our children and be disciplinary in,

you know, something where what they're trying to do is regulate themselves. You talked about this before. They're literally just trying to regulate. And it's what are the tools they have to help them regulate, you know? So for my son years ago, before, like, he was always a sensory seeker. Like, it's just like, "I'm going to move.

I'm going to move." So, you know, I would be like, "Okay, before you even get to school, so first up, I'm going to be there as soon as the playground opens so you have maximum time to move your body so you can be ready for learning." You know, I got the mini tramp. I'm like, "Okay, you need movement. Let's get you a mini tramp. Let's, like, that's your space to," you know?

So it's, look at kind of what is their body communicating? Now, often, professionally, occupational therapists do a lot of work in this, right? Depending on what's going on for your child. But you also, as a parent, like, you know a damn lot just by being with your child 24/7, you're observing patterns. So start to tune into what are some of the patterns going on?

What are they needing? But not just that, you want to invite them to tune into their body. So I'm very big on that mind-body awareness. Come into your body. What does your body feel like it needs? So we can ask our children certain questions like that. What are you feeling in your body? Where are you feeling? You know, tight, this, that. Now, you've got to do it yourself.

It helps if you do it. Yeah. In whatever situation, start using the language of how things are feeling in your body and how you're moving through it. So breath is a really big one. Is it breath? Is it movement? Is it, and you can actually write a menu or a list of things together. I did this with my daughter years ago.

Again, for her, it was like, I'd be like, "What do you think?" She's like, "I don't know." You know, if they're obviously in a heightened state, they can't rationalize with you. So that has a different set of rules. Yeah. That has a different set of rules. But certainly, when they're in a state where they're more receptive and they're feeling safe, you know, you can have that conversation, create a menu.

What are some of the things we can do? Do I need a hug? Do I need a bath? Do I need to be outside? Do I need to be jumping? Do I need to create a menu of a whole heap of stuff? And then I can just go like, "Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. No, no, no, no." So there's that kind of structured way. Sometimes it's just more body-led. So you can just literally be like, "Okay, what's your body feeling like?

What do you feel like I..." You know, if they're feeling like I need all, I've got all this energy. Like, I've got boxing gloves and a little set that I can be like, "Right, hit the mitts." You know? I know.

You know? I mean. My nine-year-old was like, she will dance. Like, she will, like, dance her heart out and she'll put on her hip-hop routine music and she'll go crazy, even like in between math problems. And I'm like, "Okay, you do you."

Yeah.

You do you.

I love this, Kylie. I love this. And you do you. Like, I have a skipping rope that I keep just like literally in eyesight over there because I can, I don't like, I can't sit for long. I can't, I've got to, you know, so I'll get up, I'll do 100 skips. That takes like two minutes.

But it's little things like that that I go, "Do I need the skipping rope or do I need to just go outside and stare at my plans?"

Right.

Right? Which helps a lot.

It does. Surprisingly, yeah.

Nature, greenery.

Everything. Yeah.

Yeah. It's huge. So it's just, it's coming in and asking yourself that question. Other things like, you know, you talk about dance. I have, when I've spoken to parents in corporate roles, I'm like, "Go into the bathroom. No one has to know in the cubicle.

Pop your headphones in, choose a track and dance."

With your body.

Yeah. Because it moves your body, it brings you into presence, it recalibrates you, and it brings you, again, it brings your awareness into your body, but it's allowing your body to come back into rhythm.

Yeah.

Right? So that's a really good circuit breaker when you feel like caught in your head. The other one that's really quite powerful, and I was having a consult with actually a mom in the US, a mom of seven.

Wow.

Right? And one of her children is autistic and is a teen. And so we're kind of chatting through this new chapter in her life. And one of the things that I was chatting to her about was sound and, you know, like choosing certain tracks at certain frequencies. And, you know,

I said, "Have you tried certain frequencies and tracks before, you know, playing them at certain times of the day?" And she said, "Oh, my gosh, Sonia, you know, I've in the past said I gave it a go with certain music and tracks." And she said, "It actually helped the whole household." I said, "Yes, because the most powerful way,

as I said, we're all energy, we're all vibrational beings, sound and frequency, the frequencies, like the type of music and the frequencies that they shift the environment, right? You can have music or sound frequency tracks playing in the background in different rooms, and it is working at that invisible level.

So that's really, really powerful for that whole environmental shift and how it entrains our own energetic fields."

Yeah.

So she then went back into, you know, the feedback from her later was that just, it just soothed and settled everybody. You can imagine a house with seven children, like, how chaotic can that be?

Right.

But it just, again, it just, it entrained everyone to just be in a different.

Bring it down any level would be huge, right?

Yeah.

Now we have all the devices that you can play it in every room, right?

Yeah, you can. And again, for, you know, when we're looking at neurodivergent individuals, the nervous system, and I really call it, I don't use labels a lot because I look at everyone as an energetic signature, right? The system is so refined that we've really, you know, we do want to tune into what does their beautiful system need?

Because it's teaching us a lot. They're teaching us a lot.

Right.

Yeah. And yeah, so we want to be tuning into that. So vibration and sound and frequency is very, very powerful in bringing, "Okay, I'm feeling safe in my body again." Because that's what we all want to feel. We want to feel safe in our body again. And so then we're functional again.

Right.

So yeah, they would be, yeah, kind of a few things.

A few things. We've heard so many things. So you have to check out her book to really delve in and learn all the things on a different level.

Yeah.

Tell people where they can find you, where they can find your book, how they can, you know, get in contact. Of course, all this will be in the show notes with links.

Yes.

But for those just listening right now, it's fab.

Yeah, absolutely. I'd love for people to connect with me, soniabestelick.com. The spelling will be in the show notes. That's the easiest way to go. How do you spell Bestelick?

I know. Probably pronounce it wrong too. Sorry.

No, no. All good. All good. But soniabestelick.com, you'll see that on my website. Even if you go to Amazon, it actually, the book hit number one in Amazon early this week.

Woohoo! Get it. I love that. Congratulations.

Yeah. So e-book on Amazon, physical copy, you know, Barnes and Noble, all the things. Audiobook, it's there for you guys. It's there to serve everybody. So yeah, that's me. And I love LinkedIn. So for anyone on LinkedIn, connect with me there, connect with me on Instagram. I do my best on Insta, but yeah. So, but.

Yeah. Lots of different ways. All the different avenues to connect with Sonia. And as always, if this episode really resonated with you, if you think someone else would benefit from all this empowering education, please, please, please like, subscribe, send it to them. It's just a little copy of the link and you can text it,

you can email it, you can throw it up in your socials, but we would really, really appreciate if you spread the word because this is like, honestly, these sorts of tools and these conversations and these, I mean, honestly,

just the education around how do we empower ourselves to empower our littles, it's huge. It's huge. And we're inundated with so much information these days that people trust their ChatGPT bot more than they trust their instincts and themselves, right? And I think in this world of tech, in this world of AI,

it's more important now than ever to really get back to ourselves and help ourselves feel regulated and help ourselves feel that, you know, feel that we can really trust our intuition. We talk about that a lot on our show, how to trust our mother's intuition and that it's real and it's there for us.

We have to take time for ourselves to be quiet and to listen sometimes. Sometimes it'll scream at us and sometimes it won't, but it's always, always there. And we get to teach our kids how to trust that too, which I think is beautiful. It's beautiful. And it's so important. So, Sonia, thank you, thank you, thank you for everything you do for the world, for parents, for children.

And she'll also be hosted on our website. So you can go ahead and, you know, if it's just easier to go to wegotyourmama.com, she'll be in there as well. And you can click on her stuff and connect. So again, thank you, thank you, thank you. So we got you, mama. Sonia's got you, mama. And thanks for joining us. Take care.

Thank you.