Have you ever put your health at the bottom of the list because everyone and everything else needs you? Or tried to make healthier choices, only to feel like you’re falling short of yet another standard?

In this conversation, I talk with Justin Roethlingshoefer, author of Holy Health, about God’s design for our health and what it means to honor Him with our bodies. Justin shares how his experiences with weight, eating disorders, burnout, and chronic illness and striving to be perfect changed his understanding of health. We talk about why caring for your body is about more than appearance or performance. It can help you be present and show up well for the people and work God has placed in your life.

We also get practical about sleep, food, Sabbath rest, and the priorities we put on our calendars. If you want to feel better and care for your health without making it another source of pressure, I hope this conversation helps you take a fresh look at what’s possible.

Takeaways

• What it means to honor God with your body without making health an idol.
• Why your physical, mental, and spiritual health belong in the same conversation.
• How sleep, food, rest, and daily rhythms affect your ability to be present for what matters.
• Why the priorities on your calendar can shape your health more than good intentions alone.
• How Justin’s own health struggles changed the way he approaches lasting change.
• Why support and community can make healthy habits easier to sustain.

Connect with Justin at Own It Coaching here.

Learn about Holy Health for yourself or your church here.

Check out Justin's book, Holy Health.

Start with Rest Workbook- download here

Grab the Rewire Your Mind: From Negativity to Joy- download here.

Grab the Joy Rising- Daily Gratitude & Joy Journal here.

Download My Free Joyful Living Devotional: https://kristinfitch.com/devotional

Ready to take your first step towards a more joyful, faith-filled life? Download our Reignite Your Passion Workbook and start living with purpose today!

Holy Health, Justin Roethlingshoefer, Christian health and wellness, Christian women’s health, honoring God with your body, biblical health, faith and health, health as worship, Christian healthy habits, sleep and faith, Sabbath rest and health, food and faith, burnout and health, body mind and spirit health, healthy rhythms for Christian women

Link to amazon is includes an affiliate link to books.

Hey.

Hey, and welcome back to Faithfield Living.

Today we're going to talk about the times in our lives when we just thought something felt off or maybe we just felt worn out, or that we thought our value is tied to our performance or our output.

Today we're talking about holy health and how can we live in the rhythms that God designed for us so that we can be wholly healed.

We were created to heal.

We were created to thrive.

We were created to excel and step into everything God has for us.

I have a great guest interview for you today, and we're going to talk all about this and we're going to give you some habits and rhythms that you can apply to your life so that you can realign your life with the way God designed us to live.

Welcome to Faith Filled Living, the podcast for women who want to find joy again, grow closer to God and rediscover the woman he created you to be.

I'm your host, Kristin Fritsch.

Each week you'll find encouragement, honest conversations, biblical perspective, and practical tools to help you experience more joy, purpose and peace in everyday life.

Because the woman God created you to be is still there, and it's never too late to come alive to the life he created you to live.

Hi.

I want to welcome our guest, Justin Roefling Schoeffer.

He is a US Today bestselling author, human performance expert, and founder of Own It Coaching.

His newest book is called Holy Health.

We're going to talk about our health through the lens of science and scripture alignment and why doing this makes all the difference and how we feel and how we show up and step into everything God has for us and to step into a more abundant life.

Hi.

Today on the show, I would like to welcome Justin.

We are going to talk about his new book, Holy Its habits and rhythms to heal your body and transform your life.

And to be honest with you, this book really kind of just struck a chord with me and it sort of woke a part of me up.

I've always been interested in health and I've had many conversations around health lately and in our faith.

But to be honest with you, this said, this reminded my spirit, like I have so much more I'm capable of and maybe I've been settling, settling a little bit and maybe you feel like that, too.

I do a lot of healthy things.

I move every day.

But to be honest with you, as I read through the book, I thought, I know God has more for me, even in the health, in my health.

And so today we're going to have a conversation around that.

And then also we're going to talk about why is it so important and why is our health, mind, body, spirit and heart tied together and why so many of our health problems come from one of these areas because they aren't aligned.

So, Justin, welcome to the show and thanks for joining us.

Kristen, it's so good to be here.

I'm excited to have a deep conversation with you today.

Yeah.

So obviously your whole book, you kind of break it down into these different chapters.

You know, you go through, you know, the who you are in Christ and we'll get into that in a minute.

But you talked about having holy habits and rhythms and how we get to longevity.

But first, do you want to share with us like you have a, you know, a story like we all do, but it starts in your childhood and your health journey.

So do you want to share a little bit about your background first?

Yeah.

I think God prepares everybody in unique ways for what it is that they're called to.

And whether we align with that early in our lives or whether it takes us a little bit longer is kind of just depend depicted of how soon we actually step into our God given calling.

And for me, I knew at 8 years old that I wanted to be a part of the health redemption story of the world.

And I still remember reading a book with my parents.

It was the Bernstein Bears and it was the Bernstein bears go back to school and brother and sister Bear had gone back to school and they went back to school and they got a cold and they came home and then mom and Papa Bear got sick and the whole household was sick and it kind of threw him down.

And I said to my mom, I said, why does sickness exist?

Like why, why did they go back to school and they get sick?

And I said, that doesn't seem right.

And then why did the kids get sick?

And then the parents got sick.

That doesn't seem right.

And my mom just goes, well, that's just the way it is.

That's just normal.

And I was like, well, it shouldn't be.

And the Lord just at that moment said, you're going to be the one to help awaken people to what real health actually looks like.

And so my entire life I've had an idea of what health was.

I just didn't realize that I was going to be the one chasing my health for 25 years.

And I've walked through obesity, I've walked through anorexia, I've walked through liver kidney failure, I've walked through depression, I've Walked through anxiety, I've walked through burnout, I've walked through being diagnosed with precancerous polyps in my colon and a bleeding precancerous ulcer and told I wouldn't see 35.

I've been through all of the gamut of what you'd think health does not look like and what a lot of people struggle through.

All while having the undergraduate degrees, the master's degree, the postgraduate doctoral research, the, the functional medicine certifications, the massage therapy, the, the non traditional type of experience, being a performance director in the national hockey league for 10 plus years.

Like you've held the roles, you've held the positions, you've done the things, you've got the experience, you've been the practitioner, you've been the, the researcher, you've been the student.

Then why was it so difficult to go on this journey?

And every time I sat with the Lord it was just like, I need you to walk through this so that people can know that they can relate to you, that you are human, that you have gone through this too.

But also I took you through the gamut so you can relate to everyone.

And looking back, I'm just so grateful for that.

Even though for 25 years it was something that felt really difficult.

And for anybody out there right now who's trying to figure out what they're called to do, who you used to be is who you're best equipped to help.

And I think that was just a part of my journey and my story that I think was really beautiful that ultimately led us to, to, to where we are today.

And so it's being able to really understand your body in a better way.

And when you understand your body, it changes the game because again scripture says that we don't perish from a lack of knowledge, but rather we perish from a lack of understanding.

And Solomon always told us to seek wisdom.

And what I say is knowledge to wisdom is only bridged by the bridge of understanding.

And too many of us have so much knowledge, but we live on the other side of the bridge because we've never fully understood the body that we live in.

Yeah, so true.

Well, you know you, something that you share in the book, it was a small thing, but it kind of hit me was you say growing up, I think it was growing up at some point sometime when you were younger, you remember thinking, okay, well there's all these spiritual people at church.

But you didn't really see a lot of role models.

And I think of people that were an example of excellence both physically, spiritually in the church.

And I don't disagree with you on that, that, that sometimes we're lacking in that area.

I think it's better today than it was.

But what would you just share with us about that?

About being stewards of these bodies that God gave us?

Yeah.

One of the best things that I've ever heard from one of my mentors was when we were starting to, when we were starting Holy Health and we're like, we want this to be a Christ centered business.

And he goes, well, wouldn't you say that own it as a Christ centered business?

And I would say, I said yes, but we don't have Bible verses on our website like we do with Holy Health and some other things.

He goes, it's not about the Bible verse, it's about the state of excellence.

And he goes, you want to stand out in this world, you want to be a kingdom led ministry, Just be excellent, just be excellent in everything you do.

And I remember the story that you're, that you're referring to was kind of just going off of my, my journey of faith myself as I grew up in a Christian home, love Jesus, was baptized as a young child, went to confirmation at 14, but I still remember at 14, 15, 16, 17 years old, going through.

This was the time in which anorexia was going through my body.

Depression, anxiety, kind of figuring out who I was in some of these areas.

I still remember going to church every day and our pastor was somebody who struggled with depression, would go on leaves of absence as often people would be preaching down to me as I need to pray more and get into my Bible more.

That's why I'm depressed and that's why I'm going through anorexia.

But yet at the same time they were fat and overweight and struggling financially.

And I was like, that's not the life I want.

And I remember looking around going, this person gets mad at their, this person doesn't treat their spouse well.

This person is unathletic.

This person is not doing well financially.

This person's marriage is falling apart.

This person is depressed and overweight.

This person is not well in any way, shape or form.

And this person seems to always be crying.

And so it's like, I don't want any of yalls lives.

So if this is what Jesus is like, I Don't want any of it.

Like, get me out of here.

And I had never actually seen what it looked like to be physically fit, mentally stable, emotionally strong, and spiritually connected.

I'd never known what that looked like.

I'd never known what truly abundant life meant.

And so I walked away from the church for a long time.

I walked away from the Lord, and he radically changed my heart at 29, to really be, like, on fire for him and live in a state of excellence.

And a state of excellence is not a state of perfection.

Those are two very different things.

But I think oftentimes we justify not shooting for excellence because perfectionism and an unhealed heart gets in the way.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So good.

And, you know, I think that's the thing, is no matter what.

What career we have or what stage of life we're in, whether we're a, you know, man or a woman, whether we have a family or don't, I think the point is, is we're an example to everyone around us.

So not just do we want to, you know, the Spirit, you know, Holy Spirit's within us.

So first of all, that's already a reason, right?

And biblically, it tells us, you know, how to.

To care for our bodies, but we also are those role models.

We are those examples.

We are the person that we want other people, you know, to look up towards and things like that, like, much like yourself.

I remember when I realized many years ago that Bear Grylls was a Christian.

And, you know, and he's a survival guy and he's fit and all these things and.

But my point about that is, is I'm like, well, when I first heard of him many, probably decades ago, right?

I never.

I didn't even know he was a Christian.

But it's like, as he did more things that were aligned with his faith, you know, wrote books and things, I was like, how cool is that, right?

It was cool because I have sons.

And so I was like, look, there's people like that who people have heard of or seen a TV show of.

And it was another example of, look, this is how you can live more aligned, right?

This is how you can be who God wants you to be.

And why do we want to steward our bodies?

Why do we want to be healthy?

I mean, well, not just our bodies, right?

Our minds, our body, our spirit, but it's because then we can do what God's called us to do.

We can be prepared and have that endurance to step into our purpose and our calling.

That's it.

And at the end of the day, if you want to live spiritually aligned, you have to live fully aligned.

It's what you do.

It's every habit, it's every behavior.

It is a.

We have been made in a.

In a state of oneness.

Mental, physical, spiritual, emotional, relational, financial, sociological.

These are not separate things.

They are all integrated to create one life, one human, one engagement, one interaction, one connection.

And the problem is, is culture has taught us to segregate them, to separate them.

And when you segregate or separate, you cannot have oneness.

So even if you find fulfillment and richness in one area and you have bankruptcy and poorness in another, you are going to have a very difficult life.

You are never going to feel fulfilled, you're never going to feel fulfilled, you're never going to feel connected.

And I'm not just talking financially here.

I'm talking, hey, you are bankrupt in your body, you are bankrupt in your marriage, you are bankrupt in your family dynamics, you are bankrupt in your leadership, in your business, you.

Wherever there is bankruptcy.

Anything times zero is zero.

So you could have all the money in the world, you could have an awesome marriage, but if you are physically unwell, your life is going to feel like a zero in many ways because it will impact everything.

You could be physically fit, financially well off, business is thriving, but your family is at a zero.

That is going to leave your life if a zero feeling in many different ways.

And so we can't start.

We, we as Christians are called to be abundant in all things, live from a space of overflow.

The enemy comes to steal, kill and destroy.

But Jesus came so that we may have life abundantly.

And abundance is not just in what we have.

Abundance is in how we live.

Yeah, yeah.

And you know, one of the things you talk about in the book is it's when we are not aligned with our truth.

And our truth being that we're children of God and that he designed us in a certain way and he designed us to our bodies to work in a certain way, our minds, that that's why we need renewal.

But you know, you explain that when the truth is disguised in alignment, is lost, that our health disappears.

And I would say a lot of people fall into that camp.

You know, of course you give stats in the book and I've seen lots of these in other, in other places, but we're basically sick, right?

The country is sick.

And you know, what is it like, I forget the percentage of people are on more than five prescription medications.

They're handed out like candy and this is not to say there's not a purpose for them sometimes it's just to say we do it because we aren't actively participating always in all the areas of our lives.

Right.

Or we are disconnected from some part of ourselves or from some truth.

Right.

We're living like you kind of are inferring we're living in an area of our life that's not fitting, whether it's our job is toxic or whether it's whatever it is.

Right.

We're like you said, we have healthy.

We're making poor choices for our health that are making us not feel good, whatever it might be.

And so how would you.

I guess, where do we start with trying to come into alignment, you know, for all the areas of our life?

Like, where do you start?

Because I know first it's identity.

But what would you say to say to us?

It's a loaded question.

It's big.

But where we have to come back to is what I say in Holy Health Academy, but also in how I start.

Holy Health is.

It's who does God say you are?

And it's not daughter, son, child of God, beloved, sacred one.

Those are the things that we read in scripture that we know.

But what does he have just for you?

There's something that he has just for you that he's called you to, but you've never been still enough, silent enough, quiet enough to hear it.

You've just never received it.

You've never fully believed it.

And the habits and behaviors that you have every single day are your identity made visible.

And so if you don't think you're good enough, like, again, my, my.

The big lie that I lived for much of my life was that if I was not impressive, I would be nothing.

And if I was nothing, my soul would die.

So every single thing I did, I aimed that I had to be impressive.

So I had to run the races, I had to run the triathlons, I had to do the extreme diets.

I had to go and do the ironman.

I had to go and do embellish stories based on where I was and what I was doing.

And I had to be the big personality in the room.

And the constant going, the constant striving, the constant pushing, the constant performing stole my health at the end of the day.

And the Lord got a hold of me, like I said, at 29 years old.

And I started a rhythm where every morning I would sit in silence for 30 minutes in my sauna and just listen, Lord, what do you have for me?

And I have.

I have three prayers.

I pray every morning.

Number one is, lord, what has my heart that is ultimately keeping me from what you have prepared for me?

Number two, Lord, what do I not know that you are guiding me to know?

And number three, Lord, do not give me anything.

Do not bless me with anything that my character cannot handle, but build my character to handle all you have prepared for me.

Those are my three daily prayers that I continue to sit in.

And then I just sit in silence and I listen.

And one morning, he said, turned everything on its head.

Remember, my biggest fear was that I.

Or that I would not be impressive if I wasn't impressive.

I would be nothing.

If I was nothing, my soul would die.

And one morning he turned it on its head and he goes, justin, if you can be nothing, I can make it something, and that will be impressive.

And that was like the change of everything in my life is.

Everything stopped becoming about performing.

It all became about receiving.

It became about living and embodying it.

And I think so much in our culture, we have.

We have sought this journey to earn something, to get something, to posture, to position, when in actuality, no, you just have to receive.

But in order to receive.

Receive is not being a genie.

Receive is out of obedience.

Receive is because you've lived a certain way.

You've gone the direction God asked you to go.

You accepted what God said that he needed you to do, and you did the hard thing.

Which is why I loved Romans 12:1 and 2.

It's what we've built both of our companies off of is brothers and sisters, in view of God's mercy, use your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God.

This is your true and proper worship.

Do not conform to the pattern of the world, but rather be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

It is at this point that you will be able to test and approve the his good, perfect, and pleasing will.

And I want to break this down because I think it's so good, based on what we just talked about is we here, use your bodies as a living sacrifice.

And we're like, okay, I guess I just have to go.

And I have to strive.

I have to push.

I have to.

Like, that's my sacrifice is going and doing all these things.

But no, no, no, no, no.

It says, use your bodies.

So your bodies in Hebrew is just another word for life.

Because they saw us as a unified, holistic being.

So there was oneness there.

So use your life as a living sacrifice.

Mock sacrifices in those days were dead.

They were placed on an altar as a dead sacrifice.

He's calling us to be a living sacrifice.

Fully alive, fully energetic, fully present, running on God's pace, performing the way that he's called us to.

Fully alive.

That is the example, because when suddenly they see Kristen operating from her living sacrifice, fully alive, fully well, fully present, fully able.

Someone's like, my gosh, Kristen, what are you doing?

I don't know what it is, but I want more of what you got.

And it gives you the opportunity to testify as to how great your God is, because that is your true and proper worship, holy and pleasing to God.

And so it's only once you start living in alignment with how he's created you and how he's called you, that now you're no longer conforming to the patterns of the world.

You're no longer doing the things that other people do.

You're not staying up at the time that they do.

You're not waking up at the time they do.

You're going to bed at a consistent time, waking up at a consistent time, abiding by a Sabbath day, having a nighttime routine, setting boundaries appropriately, moving and training appropriately, eating of what God called you, not what man made you.

Being able, you're setting pace throughout the day when where you're giving yourself white space, not because it's how you be productive, but it's because what God commanded you to do.

And so when you start putting these things in place and you don't conform to the patterns of the world, that's when the transformation happens.

Fully transformed in how you're behaving.

And watch this.

People are trying to get discernment.

What should I do?

What should I not do?

What is right, what is wrong.

They're trying to discern their way through it before the transformation happens.

It's only once you transform that you get the blessing of discernment.

And because that is when we get to the end result here, it's that point once you've transformed and had your mind renewed.

It's only at that point that you can test, watch this and approve.

You could say, is this what I'm supposed to do?

Yes, it is.

Because I know the voice of God.

I know what's stirring in my body.

I know what feels good.

If this is the dwelling place of the Holy Spirit, then, my gosh, you have access to the infinite wisdom that exists inside of you.

But you've ignored it.

You've subdued it.

You.

You've.

You've medicated it for far too long.

Thus you can't Actually even tap into the beautiful wisdom that the Holy Spirit has gifted you.

So because of that, you live mediocre.

You tolerate things in your life that have completely left you depleted, distorted, and discouraged in your life that have led to the enemy's full plan in the first place, which was destruction.

Oh, my gosh.

So good.

Yeah.

I mean, the honest truth is the more that I slow down in some parts of my day, the more I can tell what I need to do.

Or, for instance, even lunch yesterday, I was like, I think I need to.

I want to.

I want to make the soup.

I know it wasn't what one of my sons who would be home for dinner would want, but I made other stuff later.

But I was like, but this is what I want.

This is what I feel like would be good for me.

Like, but the more that I stop trying to rush through something.

And it doesn't mean we don't sometimes have busy days and.

Right.

And especially if you're running businesses and things.

But what it does mean is you slow down enough, like you said, for you, it's morning, getting in the sauna.

You have other things designed in.

We design our days for these rhythms so that we have space to hear God and to be with God, you know, and with other people and whatnot.

But.

And I think so many people in our culture don't even have those.

Those spaces and those rhythms designed into their day because they've allowed their schedules and their work and whatever to dictate.

I'm sorry, they allow what is on their calendar to dictate their schedule and their rhythms instead of the other way around.

Very good.

And what.

I want to lean into that for a second.

Because when we'd say you can't put new habits into old life rhythms, that's like saying you can't put new wine into old wine skins.

So a lot of people are trying to put really good new habits in place.

A lot of your listeners will probably.

Will probably align with this.

Or like, Justin, I've tried to change the way I eat.

I've tried to get active first thing in the morning.

I've tried to get into my word the moment I wake up before I go to my phone.

I've tried to get to bed on a consistent time.

I've tried to give myself white space during the day.

But the problem is it wasn't the habit that was the issue.

It was the life rhythm you were abiding by and the life rhythm that you've never made space for.

And so the new habit Ultimately ends bursting inside of that rhythm because it's, it no longer becomes sustainable.

So all the good wine is now wasted.

And so when we think about this, well, Justin, how do I create life rhythms?

Well, this is where we come through this, the power of P process.

I talk about where if you want to create a new life rhythm, number one is you have to get your priorities right.

What priorities matter in your life?

A lot of us has, we can say what our priorities are.

But you just said it.

You show me your calendar and I'll tell you what your priorities are.

Hey, you've got, you've got your chores to do in there.

You've got your kids games in there, the soccer game, the football game, the PTA meeting.

You've got your vacations in there.

You've got your travel in there.

But you don't have your bedtime in there.

You don't have your wake time in there.

You don't have your morning quiet time in there.

You don't have your bible time in there.

You don't have your Sunday morning church in there.

And so if it's not on there, it's obviously not a priority because it's just gonna maybe happen.

And so you got to get your priorities right.

The moment you have your priorities right, God will put you in the right place.

It is said.

He will pluck you from one place and place you in another.

When your priorities are right.

Watch you suddenly end up in the right place.

You'll end up in the sauna at 7:30 in the morning.

You'll end up in the gym at 6:30 in the morning.

You'll end up in the room you're supposed to be in to meet the person you were supposed to meet.

You'll end up sitting at the dinner table when you're supposed to sit at the dinner table.

And guess what?

When you're in the right place, you'll have ultimate presence.

You're actually present where you are.

You're not looking for where you're going because you're where you currently are.

So when you have your priorities right, you'll be in the right place, which ultimately will give you the ultimate presence, which allows you then to operate at God's pace.

Yeah, there's a pace, a sacred pace that he's called us to.

And so ultimately, as we go through this again, priority puts you in the right place to have ultimate presence, to operate at God's pace, which will give you peace that surpasses understanding suddenly the anxiety that constantly comes up.

No, there's Peace.

I know there's a lot to do today.

I know I've got a full day.

I know I've got five podcasts I got to do today, but I'm present with you right here in this seat, in this moment, because I've gotten.

I've been working since 5am this morning because I knew exactly what God was calling me to.

So he's put me in every place I'm supposed to been.

I'm not racing out of this hour because I'm present in the current one.

And now I'm ultimately able to perform the way that he's called me to.

And this is the.

This is that sequence.

When you have your priorities right, you ultimately will be in the place God's got you, so you can be present there, so you can have peace.

He has you in the right place, operating at his pace so that now you can go and perform the way he's designed you.

And that is the order of what I talk about, creating rhythms.

So when we think about this, if your mornings are exhaustive, then probably take a look at what your evenings look like.

Have you actually honored the evening?

In Genesis, it says, evening came, morning came first day.

Our days start in the evening.

We start in rest so we can go and pour out.

We think our morning starts the moment we wake up, and it ends their day ends the moment we fall into bed exhausted at night.

That's backwards.

And so how do we have sacred time at night to prepare for?

The most important thing we'll do is sleep so we can wake up and pour out in the morning.

And so how do we set boundaries on this to give us a added level of.

Of obedience so that we can actually realize God's promise, which is life abundantly.

So true.

So good.

Yeah.

What would you say is the biggest challenge for people?

And you know how you talked about how do we.

People that are saying, like, yes, some of that made so much sense to me, and I know I need to, like, look at my priorities and I need to change some things, but it feels so hard because I'm just.

I'm busy and I'm overstretched.

And like, how do you tell people like, yes, but you know what?

How do we overcome that?

Because I still feel a lot of people I know that are Christians, they are still walking in that they say they know their priorities, but their schedules do not show it.

To get something different, you have to do something different.

And doing something different is uncomfortable.

Yeah.

And when I say, actually, it's not what I Say, when Scripture says, use your bodies as a living.

Sacrifice, Sacrifice.

Remember it says this back again.

I'm going to get the book wrong.

But later in Scripture, God says he values obedience better than sacrifice.

And the obedient thing is often the hard thing, the uncomfortable thing, the inconvenient thing.

And so when we're talking sacrifice, for a lot of people listening, it's not adding more to your calendar, it's actually saying, no.

Yeah, the sacrifice is actually taking things off your calendar.

The hard thing is actually getting into the gym to do your workout.

The hard thing is actually taking a Sabbath day.

The hard thing is actually going to bed and not staying up.

The hard thing is actually waking up and not staying in bed.

The hard thing is actually making dinner and not ordering something.

And so we've been so conditioned to go with what's convenient because it's the easier, more efficient way.

But the easier and more efficient way has been what we've tolerated has been the mediocrity that slipped into our lives that has ultimately left us not obedient to God and thus completely walking away from it and then going, God, why have you forsaken me?

Why are you not here?

Why am I having these menopausal symptoms?

Why am I having this autoimmune disorder?

Why am I 70 pounds overweight and I can't drop a pound?

Why is it that my testosterone is dropping?

Why is it that I don't feel well?

Why is it that I have headaches?

Why is it that I have insomnia?

Why is it that I have anxiety?

Or why is it that I'm depressed?

Why is it that I can't get connected to the family in which I desire so much to do?

It's because we've been living the way the world has taught us and not with how God has commanded us, and that this function will leave us there.

And again, what I'm about to like, that aspect, I think, is real talk for a lot of people.

And what I'm to say is going to get a little bit more philosophical again and then I'll pull it back down.

But so many of us have all the knowledge in the world.

Remember, we do not perish from a lack of knowledge.

We perish from a lack of understanding.

And so you might know this, but you've never been with a coach.

You've never been on a journey.

You've never tried to implement it over the course with a community or a team or a coach to kind of go on this journey with you.

So, so You've never actually lived it.

And if you've never tried to live it in a deeper way to understand it, you'll never get to the other side, which is wisdom, which is what we've been taught to seek in the first place.

The greatest investment I've ever made into my life has been coaches.

I have at least two to three coaches in my life in different areas at any given point in time.

From business to marriage to parenting to health.

I have my own health coaches to mindset to spiritual side.

Like, I have coaches two to three at any given point in time in my life because I want to time collapse everything.

They know that I just don't.

I might know it because I've heard it on a podcast.

I know it because I've read it in a book.

I know it because I've seen it or heard it at a seminar, but I've never lived it myself.

And if I've lived it myself, I would understand it.

And that gap is what I always want to close so that my wife and I can have a close, intimate relationship that allows our home to be a safe place, so that I understand how to live in my own skin, so that I can step in to my calling.

And that's traveling 140 days a year and making sure that my marriage is running, making sure that my business is operating well, making sure that I'm on stage and speaking so that I can connect with each person individually.

I can write books.

All these things that people look and go, oh, my gosh, how is this happening?

And I'm like, man, I'm one step from stupid.

I'm not intelligent whatsoever.

I've just been able to step into the.

The.

The grace of God and the favor of what he's placed on me because I'm walking obediently in what he's ultimately created me to do.

That's it.

That is it.

Yeah.

And because of that, the only thing on the other side of obedience is blessing.

Yeah.

So good.

Wow.

Yeah.

And wow.

I guess one of the things.

And we already alluded to this, but besides, I mean.

Yes.

Obedience.

Right.

It all starts there in each of the areas of our lives.

You sort of talked about that earlier, right?

You can't just.

We need to work on all the areas.

You know, it's not just health, although health's important.

And that's an area where a lot of people ignore.

Maybe like, for instance, people in ministry.

Well, we all know people in ministry can be overworked if they're not careful, because there's so many people, right.

Their whole congregation might be pulling on them.

Or maybe you work in a church or you volunteer in a church or whatnot, or you're an entrepreneur.

But a lot of people, they ignore their health until there's an issue.

Right.

Or a crisis.

And so obviously that's one of the things your books talk about is like, that's why your health, just like these other areas needs to be, you know, you have to intentionally build that into your schedule.

But what about the thing where so many people don't take control of their health?

Like they, they literally look to the doctor, they look to somebody else instead of, yes, use them when needed.

But we, we are in charge of our own health and God tells us how to live healthy.

But what else can you just share with us?

Because I think a lot of people struggle with that, you know, like, well, I don't know, I just have this issue.

But instead of getting to the root of it, you know, or our schedules or our stress, we just say, oh, this is just how it is.

So how do we approach this?

Yeah.

Traditional medicine has been brought up and been set up to fix what's broken.

That's the way the medical system is built.

It's not to be preventative, it's not to be proactive, it's not to be personalized.

That's your job.

That is literally what we've all been called to do as stewards of the only thing that God called.

Very good.

I had this epiphany as I was traveling with Phil Wickham and Brandon Lake.

We were coming off of a cruise ship, just opened up summer worship nights in the Bahamas.

And we were driving to the airport.

And as we were driving down this highway, I looked left and it was the ocean.

It was crazy high waters and choppy waves and deep, deep, deep, deep blue.

And then on this side, there was a bay and a little cove and it was turquoise blue water, completely calm, white bottom.

So it was like clear blue you could see at the bottom.

And it was like this picture of two totally different things, but yet in the middle they met and made almost like you literally saw where one turned into the other.

And I looked at it and I was like, wow, that is beautiful.

Beautiful.

That is incredible.

That is amazing.

Yeah.

And then not a week later, I was up in Banff, up in Canada, where my family is and where I'm from, and we're in the Rocky Mountains.

And these beautiful, majestic mountains are so big and beautiful and just awe inspiring.

It just like takes your Breath away.

And I was standing out there and I get emotional, telling a story every time.

And I remember looking up to the mountains going, God, you are so good.

Like, amazing.

Like, look what you've created.

And all of a sudden, I had this check in my spirit and go, no, no, no, Justin, you've missed it.

You think those are amazing.

I think you're amazing.

You're the only thing that I called very good.

The only thing.

I had so much intentionality when I made you, that I created you right down to the cellular level.

30 Trillion cells inside each and every one of your bodies that I made synergistically work together.

And if you look inside of a cell and you look at the mitochondria and the nucleus and the nucleotides and all the different parts that intertwine together, you can't look at a cell and not be in awe.

And I made 30 trillion of those inside of each of your bodies.

And I made 500 million of those become brand new every 84 days.

And that means you become a brand new cellular human being and every five to seven years.

So I made you to age well.

I chose to dwell inside of you.

You are very good.

You are amazing.

You just don't understand it.

Yeah.

And that is where we get it wrong, is we look at this world we live in and we put all of those other things above us where God chose us first.

He made us on the sixth day because he created the perfect environment for his most perfect creation to live.

And we've done a great job destroying the very thing that was supposed to steward this thing.

And so we don't keep a good garden.

When I'm talking about a good garden, I'm talking about an environment at our home, an environment in our heart, an environment in our mind, an environment of our body.

We don't keep a good garden.

And thus, why would we expect a good, powerful, positive outcome?

And that epiphany of no.

The Holy Spirit chose to dwell inside of us.

He intentionally built us in such a way that we are the only thing that is very good.

I have to live in such a way.

Go back into Romans, says, run or, pardon me, go into 1 Corinthians.

Run in such a way.

Paul's teaching.

Run in such a way that you may win the prize.

Run in such a way.

Do things so intentionally.

He didn't just say, run the race.

Yes.

We're talking about the race to eternity.

And that, hey, this is.

We're a blip in time here.

And there's A bigger life for us over here.

But this is not just a meat suit we're living in for the 70, 80, 90, 100 years that we're here.

This is the literally tool that you've been given to carry out the calling that God's placed on your life.

If that, if that does not hit you and go, my gosh, I have a responsibility and a sense of ownership here that I need to step into and I need to take authority and dominion over because I've been been given a authority and dominion over everything in this world.

Then maybe I should actually take a look at how I'm living.

Maybe I should actually take a look and say, God, where.

Where do I need to start to change something today?

Where do I need to be called back into more alignment with what you've called me to do?

What, where do I need to understand my body better so that I can make just a better decision?

Because right now I think I'm doing things right, but my goodness, I could be doing things completely wrong just because of a lack of knowledge.

And when it says again in Scripture, did you not know that your bodies were a temple of the Holy Spirit?

Did you not know?

Like, it's not him condemning them, it's him.

It's.

It's Paul coming, going, oh, my gosh, like, did you not know?

Yeah, I'm so empathetic towards you because you've been doing this for so long.

Like, did you not know?

And that's just me saying here to you as well.

Like, did you not know?

That's okay.

It's okay.

Nobody's taught it to you.

The medical system taught you to be dependent on it, and that's okay, but it's not the truth.

So even though you didn't know, just come see what's over here.

And trust me, that will get you to where you need to go, will help you live in greater alignment so you can have the promise which is abundant life, which is what God's called you to in the first place.

Oh, my gosh, so much there.

So much for.

For everyone to kind of chew on there.

Okay, so as we wrap up, let me ask you what would just be maybe the last word of encouragement you want to share with listeners today just about holy health and just about living in alignment in our lives.

Yeah.

It's so people could be listening to this right now and they could be going through hell.

You're going through perimenopause.

It hit you early.

Your symptoms are terrible.

You've gained 50 pounds in the last 12 months, you don't know what's going on with your body.

Your hormones are all out of whack.

You got an autoimmune disorder that popped out of nowhere.

You've now got two that you've just been put on more medications with.

You've got rheumatoid arthritis.

Your body hurts every morning.

You wake up, you don't sleep well.

You've been put on benzos to try to get to sleep at night.

You've got anxiety or depression that's crippling your mind.

You're suddenly your blood sugar's up and you don't know why.

And your doctor has no clue what to do.

You've been on four different diets.

You've tried to go to the gym.

You wake up in the middle of the night, you can't go back to sleep.

I'm probably talking to somebody out there.

Your energy wanes throughout the day.

The only thing that brings you up is caffeine.

The only thing that brings you down is wine.

You're not broken.

Goes back to what I said before.

God created you with 30 trillion cells inside your body.

500 Million of those become brand new every 84 days.

That means you become a brand new cellular human being every five to seven years.

And I have.

I'm sitting in the seat where I'm just so grateful to the Lord every single day because I get to see 10 to 20 miracles happen every single day.

We've got this channel in Slack called God's.

God's Testimonies.

And our team literally types in there.

Everything.

A single thing that we're getting testimonies from from people we're working with.

And I get to read these every single day things.

People losing the weight that they've never been able to lose the weight for, perimenopausal symptoms disappearing suddenly, all of a sudden, thriving through this time of their life.

Suddenly being able to see autoimmune disorders disappear.

Suddenly being able to see their pancreas turn back on.

Suddenly getting off the insulin, suddenly going and having their blood work come back normal.

Suddenly getting off the blood pressure medication.

Suddenly being able to sleep through the night, have the full energy they wanted to.

And what I want people to hear is that your body is not broken.

It's actually doing exactly what it was called to do, which is alert you that something is not right.

And what you have to do, what you have to take ownership of, is you have to ask a better question.

Do not outsource, delegate, or automate your health to somebody else.

But rather empower yourself, educate yourself and equip yourself by understanding.

Gaining wisdom, seek wisdom is what Solomon asked us to do, is what he heard from the Lord.

And so that was the greatest thing that he ever sought after.

And if the Holy Spirit truly dwells inside our body and this was the dwelling place, we have to seek wisdom of the thing that we are stewarding it in.

And so understand your health.

And that's what Holy Health Academy is all about.

I'd be more than happy to go on this journey with you through Holy Health Academy.

If you want to know more about how to work with us one on one through, own it.

That's there.

But everything is in the book Holy Health, if that's your place to start.

But get into the ecosystem that has been put forth specifically to help you get from where you are to ultimately where God's desiring you to go, which is life abundantly.

Because that is not just a, it's not just a hope, a wish or a dream.

It's your God given birthright.

Absolutely.

Okay, so last quick question is, what would you just say is fueling you right now?

You know, you're, you're busy with your businesses with your new newest book coming out, but what is fueling you in life right now?

Transformation.

That's it.

It's one word.

It's seeing people transform, Redeeming the health of the world.

Redeeming the health of God's people.

That's it.

That's what fuels me, is like, I love it.

Yeah, I, I, I could keep going on about where God has us in different places and what we're doing.

And he's just prepared my body, mentally, physically and spiritually to be able to carry the weight of what this is.

And it's his, it's to his glory that everything happens.

And I think that's, that's it.

It's transformation of his people.

I love it.

Okay, before you share with everybody where they can find out more about your book and in your health academy, I just want to say that this is definitely a book.

I know it's getting in some, already some church's hands, but it's definitely a book that all the churches should read.

Right?

It's definitely one that they should just, they should just buy it, they should do walk through it together.

Because you know, like we alluded to earlier, it's just, it's so important and I think you had so many message messages in there that would really just light a fire under people for them to step into the alignment and the abundance God wants for all of us.

And so, you know, I hope, you know, your book keeps blessing, you know, not just all the people it's already blessing, but just I hope the churches grab it, you know, all the churches, because I think that would be so amazing.

And like I said earlier, honestly, your book really spoke to me.

I obviously talked to a lot of authors and entrepreneurs and pastors, and so I go through a lot of books, but this one definitely spoke to me at the soul level.

And it, like I told you earlier, it just put a fire in me, you know, that like, I know God has even more for me that I'm going to step into, and this book just reminded me of that.

So thank you so much.

Really appreciate you writing it.

So good.

I absolutely love it.

Okay, so we just have a minute or so left.

So share with us.

Where's the best place for people to find out more about how you work with people and your books?

Yeah, so if you want to know more about Holy Health and what we're doing within bringing Holy Health Academy into churches, think about financial Peace University for your health.

It just literally fits into small group curriculum.

That's holyhealth.org and then if you want to know how you can work with us more one on1, that's OwnItCoaching.com so those are the two places to go.

And you can get activated into our ecosystems there.

And all my books are available through anywhere you buy books, Barnes and Noble, Amazon, and you can audible get them all there and away you go.

Awesome.

All right, well, Justin, thank you so much for joining us today and good luck with all the things you're working on and just, you know, getting in front of people so that they can change their lives and do the work God has for them.

So appreciate you, Kristin.

Thank you.

Have a great day.

All right, as we wrap up today's episode, I just wanted to share a few more things with you before we I sign off.

I think one of the things I really got from the book is just we were created to heal.

We were created to thrive.

God designed our bodies, much as Justin's already shared with us.

He designed our bodies to.

To be.

The cells renew, right?

The parts of our body regenerate.

We just have to get an alignment for restoration to happen.

The kingdom's.

The kingdom's way is to wellness.

But we have to seek first the kingdom.

We have to seek first God.

We have to, you know, be clear and then actually put our priorities into place in our lives.

Right.

We have to create rhythms that match what God says, because he literally created rhythms for us to live in, because it allows us to sustain ourselves, it allows us to be renewed.

It allows us to wake up the next day being the best version of ourselves so that we can serve others, we can serve the world so that we can step into purpose.

And so many of us are living and struggling with some area that we feel worn or we feel worn or exhausted, or we're struggling through a health diagnosis, a health challenge, maybe low energy.

And we might also be struggling in a different area.

And like Justin explained to us, we don't want to just improve our health but ignore our finances or we don't want to, you know, kill it in business.

In other words, do really well in business, but then ignore our health.

And I think there's a couple other points he makes.

One is that when we show up in life and have a community to encourage us and to be accountable to.

So whatever area that is, it could be through your church.

It could be through joining a community that's health conscious.

It could be grabbing some girlfriends or some guy friends and saying, you know what?

Let's show up every week.

Let's talk about these real topics and how I want to improve myself, but not improve myself from a performance place, improve myself.

Because when I'm my best, when I feel my best, I can show up and do all the things.

I can be present, as Justin talked about.

I can show up and give my all right.

I can be passionate about my calling.

I can pour into my relationships, I can pour into my community.

So this is about so much more than just our health or our health metrics.

It's about stewarding the way we live.

And it's about what this show's about, which is this is about living, you know, whole life, all the areas of life rooted in faith.

But when we start from there, being rooted in faith, we can align all the parts of our lives to be holy and fully healed, wholly and fully present and wholly and fully available, to be a vessel for Christ and so that other people will look at us and say, how, when I feel this way, do you seem to be living without being frazzled, without rushing, without being, you know, feeling like there's never peace or joy?

How are you living this way?

And then we can tell them it's because first we put biblical, we put scriptural things into practice in our lives before we step out into our day, until we before we step out into the world.

So I hope today's episode encouraged you and I hope, like me, just puts a little fire in your spirit that says, you know what?

I do.

I know God has more for me, but he has more for me to feel good.

He has more for me to not feel exhausted at the end of the day, but to feel like, yes, God, I showed up as a servant and I was so glad to be a part of it.

I was so glad to be in the places and the spaces you wanted me to be.

And it's definitely a book to check out.

So go check out his book, see if it's something that you want to dig further into.

And I would love to hear from you if there's something about this episode or other episodes you've heard lately that just encouraged you share.

You know, share that with me.

I would love to hear it and I'd love to share it on the show.

If you enjoyed today's episode, if you could leave a rating review on Apple Podcast or wherever you listen to podcasts, it helps the show get discovered by more people so that we can continue to uplift and encourage people in their faith journey as well as all of the other parts of their lives.