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Ellen Schwartze: Hi friend..
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We're sitting in a live special
edition election podcast from my couch.
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Marley Blonsky: Yeah, we don't
typically live in the same place.
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I for the time being, I'm in Arkansas.
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Ellen Schwartze: Yep.
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I know you have a lot of big ideas about
what you're doing with your life It
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may or may not involve Arkansas or most
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of this country.
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I don't know.
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Marley Blonsky: I'm pretty sure that
it doesn't it's not gonna involve
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Arkansas for much longer Okay, But
I don't know where it's going to be.
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I think I'm going to go
nomadic, which is going
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to
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be really interesting.
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Ellen Schwartze: You've been
saying that on your Instagram page,
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which is very exciting for me.
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At this point it's public.
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Marley Blonsky: Yeah.
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But I don't know where that means yet.
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Ellen Schwartze: It feels like when Ellen
Noble said, I'm coming out of retirement,
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but it doesn't mean anything yet.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Marley Blonsky: Exactly.
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Ellen Schwartze: Would that have
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Marley Blonsky: Yes and no.
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Anywhere in the U.
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is going to be challenging for
a while but it would be, I'm
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just feeling lonely down there.
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The biking is absolutely incredible
but I just, I haven't found my people.
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I've
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made some really good friends
and I love them dearly.
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But especially coming from
Seattle I want weirdos.
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I want queers.
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I want Jewish people.
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I want just People of color.
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I want just more diversity.
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And Bentonville is like
the Stepford Wives.
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It ain't
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Ellen Schwartze: it?
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Marley Blonsky: No.
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And I just don't fit in.
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Ellen Schwartze: Yeah.
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Marley Blonsky: Which
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Ellen Schwartze: is hard.
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It's really hard.
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It is.
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It's exhausting.
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It gets to be exhausting.
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Marley Blonsky: Exactly.
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Ellen Schwartze: We're here to talk a
little bit about the election and how
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we see this affecting the next four
years, both of all bodies on bikes and
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culture and cycling and lots of things.
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So we just had an election.
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The next president will be Republican.
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Marley Blonsky: Can
you even call him that?
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I don't want to get this I guess
to start off, this is not going
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to be a super political episode.
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So if you turn this on, you're like, dang
it, I came here to hear Marlee and Ellen
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talk about bikes and uplifting things.
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Maybe we start
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Ellen Schwartze: over.
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Marley Blonsky: We have that for you.
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I don't think we need to start over.
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Ellen Schwartze: Okay.
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Marley Blonsky: Yeah.
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We're going to get into that.
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We're going to talk about some
of the wins because there were
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some really good wins this cycle.
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But also just, a real conversation.
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I guess to start this out, the
most important thing is All
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bodies on bikes is not changing.
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We are rooted in community.
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That is where we started and
that is where we will continue.
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And we are unequivocal in that we
are unwavering in our commitment
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to building that community to
supporting and cultivating inclusive
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spaces, and that's for everybody.
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Transgender people, migrants, immigrants,
undocumented people we don't, that is
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not something that is relevant to us.
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And other marginalized people.
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This is really coming together in
community is the core of All Bodies on
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Bikes, and that's not going to change.
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We're here for you, and we want
you to show up fully as yourself
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with every facet of who you are.
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And a lot of things I've been
reading online these past, this past
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week has been about the importance
of community going forward.
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And so we're just here to say,
to start out, all bodies on bikes
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will continue to do this work.
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Which gives me a lot of hope.
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Ellen Schwartze: I agree.
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That's a lot of what I'm anchoring into
post election is, and I think this is true
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of almost any election because, at this
point in time, about half the country is
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not going to like the outcome no matter
what it is, and so feeling that there
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is always going to be grief and losing,
quote unquote losing, and so feeling
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like one of the things you can do is
anchoring into your capital C community
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and figuring out what that is and how you
can grow that and bring us closer together
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going forward no matter who you vote for.
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Marley Blonsky: Yeah.
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That being said, it's been a week.
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It's been a little bit
over a week at this point.
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I actually had surgery on election day.
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Ellen Schwartze: Okay.
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Marley Blonsky: So I was
blissfully tuned out.
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Ellen Schwartze: Were you
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Ellen Schwartze: completely under?
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Marley Blonsky: I was,
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I should have been put under the day
after, but it was on Tuesday when I had
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my knee surgery, I had my meniscus scoped
out and recovery is going really well,
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but I've really been focused on that.
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Which has been a nice distraction.
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But it also has left me feeling
disconnected a little bit.
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How are you doing?
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Ellen Schwartze: I have been better.
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I have been better.
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It's the election didn't go.
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I don't think it's a
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The election did not go the way
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And it feels very devastating.
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I do have a ton of privilege that I will
acknowledge in that I, as a, as my own
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individual self and my family will be.
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identify the same way that I do aren't
in the same economic bracket as I am.
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In a lot of ways, but like the day after
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comatose and Took a lot of time to
think of what I wanted to do next.
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I'm not a person at least in
this situation I am not a person
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who is ready for the pollyanna.
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We're gonna like here's how
here's the silver lining
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Marley Blonsky: Yeah,
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Ellen Schwartze: especially the
day after I was not ready for that,
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but I am a person who I will need
to take action to feel like I'm
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more in control of the situation.
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And so I just did a lot of thinking on
what that is and landed on community.
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Like what I'm trying to build in
Kansas City with Family Bike Ride,
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with all of the advocacy work and
all the ways I'm involved here, is
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ultimately about building that community.
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So I'm grateful to be involved with
All Bodies on Bikes in this way.
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And knowing that I can
be, this is a safe space.
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This is somewhere that is radically
inclusive and vocally inclusive.
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So I think I am seeing the way forward.
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I'm starting to see that path laid out.
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Marley Blonsky: Good, good.
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And if anything, we learned a lot
during COVID about the healing
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power of the outdoors and nature.
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And so we can always go for a bike ride.
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No matter how tumultuous things get, or
how dumb the cabinet turns out to be,
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Ellen Schwartze: can I say that?
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I've heard it called a
drunk drawer, not a cabinet.
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Marley Blonsky: wait, a junk drawer
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Ellen Schwartze: or a drunk drawer?
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Junk with a J, both might apply.
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And I think with the cabinet, I think a
lot of people are feeling the uncertainty
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of the situation that we're going into.
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I would put myself in that bucket.
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this is going to be true of any
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administration change, right?
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People are going to flip over
to the other administration.
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What does this look like
for bikes right now?
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We're losing Mayor Pete, who's in
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We love Mayor Pete.
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We love Mayor Pete.
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He's done a great job.
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He's, but to be fair though,
as well as transportation,
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he's obviously he is a gay man.
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He is part of what we would consider
our All Bodies on Bikes community.
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If he, Mayor Pete, if you want to
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some free time coming up.
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But what does the future of bikes
and transportation look like?
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We can't tell the future.
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We are not clairvoyant, but
we have some indications.
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Marley Blonsky: Yeah.
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And so there were some really big
wins for transportation specifically
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for biking in this election.
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Before we get to that though,
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So the first, and please correct
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But the first openly transgender
person was elected to Congress.
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Yes, Sarah McBride.
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Interesting collision of
the country that we had.
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We approved we put abortion access
in the constitution and then voted
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Republican down ballot in this
same year as the first openly
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transgender person is now in Congress.
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interesting to me that these.
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competing ideals are going to
be in Congress at the same time.
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Marley Blonsky: Yeah, and obviously
neither of us are political pundits, but
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I've been listening to a lot of it, and
there's so much talk about the economy and
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why people voted one way versus the other,
and, the, they didn't vote all one ticket.
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Ellen Schwartze: it's really fascinating.
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that the, is it a dichotomy?
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I like that better of having those
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Is gonna, is really interesting to me in
that coming together as a community idea.
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So where, at the way these elections
shook out to wildly polarized ideals are
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coming together in the same room under
the same roof to make decisions together.
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Marley Blonsky: Hopefully they can
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Ellen Schwartze: They have to, I
guess they don't have to interact.
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There's 535 people in Congress,
but they're still going
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to be around each other.
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I guess you can put, whatever you
want if you're sitting in the stands.
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Marley Blonsky: Yes.
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understanding and some common ground
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and work together for, clearly there's
a lot of folks who are struggling and I
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think that's why the vote turned out the
way that it did because they saw hope.
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in whatever was being offered.
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maybe, and this is where I turn into a
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worse than any of us imagine.
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Ellen Schwartze: I think so.
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ready for the silver lining yet.
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this literally the same person
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and, at the head of, I don't know
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been at the head before there was, as
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far as progressive policies were undone.
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forward, one step back.
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could be that you only get one step
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forward, two steps back, but you might
still like over the course of the
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last, you, do we want to say 60 years?
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If Ruby bridges turned 70 this
year, I learned she has an
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Ellen Schwartze: That's amazing.
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I didn't know that I've seen a
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Ellen Schwartze: So I feel like
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Not in my I was not, I'm not 70, but my
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The, the more macro you
can get, the better.
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still left to be made, but that's
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the thing that I anchor in when I
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Neither of us are transportation
wonks both advocates.
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then I've moved away from that and
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Ellen Schwartze: I wonder what should
I call myself if it's not a wonk?
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Marley Blonsky: I think you
should take on the wonk named.
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We said that word too much
and now it sounds weird.
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with People for Bikes, they are an
incredible organization that does
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advocacy what's the word I almost said
litigating, but they don't litigate
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Lobbying on Capitol Hill in
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And so they put together this, we'll put a
link to it so y'all can read because we're
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only going to have a couple of highlights
but there were some really big wins.
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Broad strokes in this
election, there was 27.
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4 billion, with a B, billion Dollars.
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Ellen Schwartze: Yeah,
for transportation stuff.
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Marley Blonsky: Yes for
active transportation.
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biking, walking, connected communities.
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It's You can't say it's all for biking
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Ellen Schwartze: it's very holistic.
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They had a map.
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That is what I think caught both of our
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and how much money each state approved.
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multi decade in some cases, programs
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that have been approved, but still 27.
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4 billion is nothing to shake a stick at.
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So we wanted to there's a couple
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Marley Blonsky: Nope.
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and improvement of recreation
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and active transportation trails.
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Marley Blonsky: Specifically to
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that will ensure that funds keep flowing
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for this program called the Move Ahead
Washington Package, which provides 1.
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Ellen Schwartze: And they rejected
the measure to protect funds.
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Marley Blonsky: It's really complicated.
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Ellen Schwartze: So this is
just like a wording thing.
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It's a wording thing.
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Ellen Schwartze: Ah, the
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move ahead Washington package.
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funding, which is really awesome.
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Good job voters.
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Cause that's confusing.
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It is.
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That's the, that's how ballots work.
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So I wanted to talk about a
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Would you have expect, how much
money do you think Tennessee got?
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Marley Blonsky: I, I wouldn't think
of Tennessee as being an active
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transportation state and it doesn't
show up on all the radars, even
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though I know there's lots of folks in
Memphis and Nashville doing good work.
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It just hasn't been on my radar.
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Ellen Schwartze: And so Nashville
specifically for past and or they
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passed a tax, like a quarter cent
sales tax, and they're going to get, I
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think it's 3 billion to implement their
public transportation, which includes
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a whole bunch of bike and pet stuff.
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Marley Blonsky: That's so awesome.
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Ellen Schwartze: cool.
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And then the other one we wanted to
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Ellen Schwartze: 6 billion for Ohio,
holistic, like for the full package.
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500 miles of new bike paths, multi
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miles planned in the next five years.
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That's pretty
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Ellen Schwartze: great.
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Marley Blonsky: Yeah, 30 miles a year.
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Ellen Schwartze: Yeah, 30 miles a year is
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Yeah, if I got 30, I live in Bentonville,
so we can't use that as a comparison.
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But when I lived in Seattle, if we
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across Washington, like that would
be revolutionary for so many people.
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Ellen Schwartze: Same here.
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In Missouri specifically,
that would be awesome.
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I guess I immediately think of
Kansas city, the city where I live.
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It's that would be, that would easily
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Marley Blonsky: Yeah.
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positively impact so many people.
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about all of these big things that
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are happening with selection is
they're going to impact real people,
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both positively and negatively.
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Ellen Schwartze: And a lot of times
it's the people who are marginalized
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in some way, who are going to
best use some of this protected
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infrastructure specifically.
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So if we're, especially
if there's an effort to.
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Focus on neighborhoods that are
have dangerous streets, or if we
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can do traffic calming, if it's
high pedestrian networks that have.
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That need the protected
infrastructure that often most
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impacts a vulnerable population.
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Pedestrians are like, inherently
the most vulnerable, but.
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Frequently a pedestrian is
a pedestrian for a reason,
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especially in a spot like Ohio.
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Marley Blonsky: Exactly.
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So there's, there is good news.
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There is good news.
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And I think, to wrap it up
and bring it back community.
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Capital C community is really what's going
to get us through this next four years.
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And who knows what's to come after
that, but I've been thinking a lot about
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community because my threads is, if you're
not on threads and you're not following
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me, you should follow me on threads.
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Cause I have some
thoughts there sometimes.
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Good for you.
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I'm
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Ellen Schwartze: not on threads.
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Marley Blonsky: I used to be like, I
was a very early adopter of Twitter.
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And so it's been a place
that I've used like online,
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I guess community forum has been a big
part of my digital life for a long time.
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So the transition to
threads has been good.
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But I've been, there's a lot of folks
talking about building community there.
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And it's just made me think about what
is a community and making sure that we
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are truly building networks of support.
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I think the word community, not to,
I'm going to get on a soapbox here.
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I think it gets.
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painted with a broad stroke of
this community, that community.
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But I would argue that a community
is a very specific thing.
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It's a group of people that care
about each other's well being.
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And that could be, centered
around a common interest, that
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could be centered around a place
of worship something like that.
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I think about a bike ride or a group ride.
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We've all been on group rides
that don't feel like a community.
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You're just, you're all there because
you have a shared interest and
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we're going to ride bikes together.
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And then you've been on rides where
it does feel like a community.
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You're taking care of each other.
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You're waiting for each other.
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You're checking on each other's wellbeing.
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And I would urge us all to be
building that second model where
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we're checking on each other.
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We're gathering for dinners, coffee.
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Checking in
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Ellen Schwartze: on
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Marley Blonsky: each
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Ellen Schwartze: other.
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Marley Blonsky: It's huge.
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Ellen Schwartze: Wow.
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Yeah.
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Little things, like little text messages.
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I loved after the election, I got
several people from various walks
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of life, just I know we were in the
same camp, like just checking in.
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That can go so long, even just
in like friendships in general.
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Yeah.
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If I can get on my little soapbox,
like the, how you doing text.
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Even if there's not a administration
shift in your life, is really powerful.
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Marley Blonsky: Yeah, that's
kept me going through these
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last three years in Arkansas.
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Of just people checking in on me and
saying, Hey, how you doing Marlee?
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Are you okay?
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And most, not most of the time, some
of the time I have not been okay.
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And that really has been
what's kept me going.
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I don't know, there's a lot of
uncertainty tariffs, who knows
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what's happening with that.
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Ellen Schwartze: Oh yeah, do you
want to talk a little, I think you're
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closer to this, so can you talk
a little bit about how you could
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see that impacting the bike world?
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Marley Blonsky: Yeah so a lot of,
bikes are manufactured overseas.
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Especially the big name brands,
Giant, Cannondale, a lot of those have
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manufacturing facilities overseas.
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And so if these tariffs are imposed
it's likely, and again, not an economist
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but likely it's the end consumer
who usually ends up paying more.
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Because of those tariffs.
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So there's the potential that
things could increase in cost
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manufacturing facilities might shift.
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If we're imposing tariffs on
China, it's possible that factories
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will move to other places.
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I used to work in logistics and
a lot of that was happening.
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There was a big shift away
from China into Vietnam.
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It's an interesting global perspective.
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But so that'll be something
to keep an eye on there.
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Marley Blonsky: Definitely going to
impact the bike industry which is
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already going, undergoing a little
bit, still going through COVID.
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Okay.
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The, and there's lots of good podcasts
about that, about the inventory
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and how everybody was buying bikes.
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And then.
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They overstocked and then
glut of inventory anyway.
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So
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Ellen Schwartze: yeah.
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Interesting.
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Marley Blonsky: Okay.
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Yeah.
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But the crux of it, all bodies
on bikes is not changing.
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We are here for you.
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If you're feeling alone,
if you're feeling.
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Reach out to us especially if you live
in one of the places where our chapters
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are at, which we're launching five new
chapters in:
2025
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have more about that in future episodes.
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But we want you to know that
we're here and we care about you.
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Ellen Schwartze: We do
care about you a lot.
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Yeah.
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So let us know, reach out on Instagram.
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Yeah.
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Instagram is probably, is that
the easiest way to get Instagram?
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The easiest.
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Yeah.
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Maybe let's actually, let's put up
a box and be like, we just launched
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this episode and what did you think?
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And tell us how you're doing.
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Marley Blonsky: Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So let us know.
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You can also always send us an email
podcast at all bodies on bikes.
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com and that goes
directly to me and Ellen.
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So yeah, thanks for sticking with us.
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We know you don't tune into All Bodies
on Bikes to hear about election stuff.
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It felt monumentous.
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Yeah, it felt really important.
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Yeah,
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Ellen Schwartze: I'm glad we did it.
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I'm glad we're chatting.
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I'm glad you're here on my couch.
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Thanks.
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It feels good.
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It feels like buildings.
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It's just two of us, but it
counts towards community.
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Marley Blonsky: It definitely
counts towards community.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All
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Ellen Schwartze: Yeah.
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Marley Blonsky: Good
chatting with you, Marley.
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Good chatting with you, Ellen.
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And be well, everybody.
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And we will talk to you soon.
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Ellen Schwartze: This has been a super
good Midwestern goodbye, by the way.
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Like 17 times.
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That's how it goes.
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Bye.