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Election Special with Marley and Ellen
16th November 2024 • All Bodies on Bikes • Marley Blonsky
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Hey folkx, we're here with a few thoughts after the U.S. election. In case you were concerned—we're not going anywhere! And we're saying it out loud.

The election has some immediate impacts, like an administration change, as well as regional transportation funding wins and the first openly transgender member of Congress!

Check in with us on Instagram, @AllBodiesOnBikes to let us know how you're doing 💗

Links mentioned in the show:

People for Bikes' Round up of Transportation wins in the 2024 election

Nashville, Tennessee passes $3.1B transit funding

Sarah McBride will be the first openly transgender member of congress

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Marley Blonsky:

Hi friends.

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Ellen Schwartze: Hi friend..

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We're sitting in a live special

edition election podcast from my couch.

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Marley Blonsky: Yeah, we don't

typically live in the same place.

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I for the time being, I'm in Arkansas.

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Ellen Schwartze: Yep.

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I know you have a lot of big ideas about

what you're doing with your life It

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may or may not involve Arkansas or most

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of this country.

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I don't know.

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Marley Blonsky: I'm pretty sure that

it doesn't it's not gonna involve

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Arkansas for much longer Okay, But

I don't know where it's going to be.

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I think I'm going to go

nomadic, which is going

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to

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be really interesting.

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Ellen Schwartze: You've been

saying that on your Instagram page,

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which is very exciting for me.

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At this point it's public.

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Okay.

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Marley Blonsky: Yeah.

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But I don't know where that means yet.

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Ellen Schwartze: It feels like when Ellen

Noble said, I'm coming out of retirement,

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but it doesn't mean anything yet.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Marley Blonsky: Exactly.

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Ellen Schwartze: Would that have

anything to do with the election?

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Marley Blonsky: Yes and no.

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Yeah.

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Anywhere in the U.

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S.

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is going to be challenging for

a while but it would be, I'm

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just feeling lonely down there.

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The biking is absolutely incredible

but I just, I haven't found my people.

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I've

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made some really good friends

and I love them dearly.

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But especially coming from

Seattle I want weirdos.

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I want queers.

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I want Jewish people.

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I want just People of color.

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I want just more diversity.

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And Bentonville is like

the Stepford Wives.

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It ain't

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Ellen Schwartze: it?

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Marley Blonsky: No.

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And I just don't fit in.

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Ellen Schwartze: Yeah.

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Marley Blonsky: Which

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Ellen Schwartze: is hard.

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It's really hard.

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It is.

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It's exhausting.

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Yeah.

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It gets to be exhausting.

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Marley Blonsky: Exactly.

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Yeah.

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Ellen Schwartze: We're here to talk a

little bit about the election and how

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we see this affecting the next four

years, both of all bodies on bikes and

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culture and cycling and lots of things.

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So we just had an election.

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Yeah.

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The next president will be Republican.

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Marley Blonsky: Can

you even call him that?

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I don't want to get this I guess

to start off, this is not going

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to be a super political episode.

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So if you turn this on, you're like, dang

it, I came here to hear Marlee and Ellen

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talk about bikes and uplifting things.

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Maybe we start

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Ellen Schwartze: over.

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Marley Blonsky: We have that for you.

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I don't think we need to start over.

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Ellen Schwartze: Okay.

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Marley Blonsky: Yeah.

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We're going to get into that.

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We're going to talk about some

of the wins because there were

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some really good wins this cycle.

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But also just, a real conversation.

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I guess to start this out, the

most important thing is All

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bodies on bikes is not changing.

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We are rooted in community.

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That is where we started and

that is where we will continue.

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And we are unequivocal in that we

are unwavering in our commitment

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to building that community to

supporting and cultivating inclusive

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spaces, and that's for everybody.

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Transgender people, migrants, immigrants,

undocumented people we don't, that is

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not something that is relevant to us.

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And other marginalized people.

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This is really coming together in

community is the core of All Bodies on

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Bikes, and that's not going to change.

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We're here for you, and we want

you to show up fully as yourself

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with every facet of who you are.

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And a lot of things I've been

reading online these past, this past

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week has been about the importance

of community going forward.

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And so we're just here to say,

to start out, all bodies on bikes

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will continue to do this work.

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Which gives me a lot of hope.

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Ellen Schwartze: I agree.

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That's a lot of what I'm anchoring into

post election is, and I think this is true

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of almost any election because, at this

point in time, about half the country is

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not going to like the outcome no matter

what it is, and so feeling that there

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is always going to be grief and losing,

quote unquote losing, and so feeling

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like one of the things you can do is

anchoring into your capital C community

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and figuring out what that is and how you

can grow that and bring us closer together

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going forward no matter who you vote for.

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Marley Blonsky: Yeah.

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That being said, it's been a week.

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It's been a little bit

over a week at this point.

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I actually had surgery on election day.

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Ellen Schwartze: Okay.

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Marley Blonsky: So I was

blissfully tuned out.

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Ellen Schwartze: Were you

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Marley Blonsky: put

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Ellen Schwartze: completely under?

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Marley Blonsky: I was,

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I should have been put under the day

after, but it was on Tuesday when I had

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my knee surgery, I had my meniscus scoped

out and recovery is going really well,

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but I've really been focused on that.

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Okay.

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Which has been a nice distraction.

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But it also has left me feeling

disconnected a little bit.

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How are you doing?

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Ellen Schwartze: I have been better.

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I have been better.

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It's the election didn't go.

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I don't think it's a

surprise to anyone listening.

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The election did not go the way

I would have preferred it to go.

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And it feels very devastating.

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I do have a ton of privilege that I will

acknowledge in that I, as a, as my own

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individual self and my family will be.

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We will make it to the other

side of the next four years.

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And I get very concerned about people who

don't look like me and people who don't

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identify the same way that I do aren't

in the same economic bracket as I am.

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And so that weighs on me really heavily.

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In a lot of ways, but like the day after

I would like, I think I was borderline

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comatose and Took a lot of time to

think of what I wanted to do next.

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I'm not a person at least in

this situation I am not a person

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who is ready for the pollyanna.

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We're gonna like here's how

here's the silver lining

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Marley Blonsky: Yeah,

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Ellen Schwartze: especially the

day after I was not ready for that,

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but I am a person who I will need

to take action to feel like I'm

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more in control of the situation.

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And so I just did a lot of thinking on

what that is and landed on community.

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Like what I'm trying to build in

Kansas City with Family Bike Ride,

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with all of the advocacy work and

all the ways I'm involved here, is

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ultimately about building that community.

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So I'm grateful to be involved with

All Bodies on Bikes in this way.

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And knowing that I can

be, this is a safe space.

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This is somewhere that is radically

inclusive and vocally inclusive.

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So I think I am seeing the way forward.

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I'm starting to see that path laid out.

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Marley Blonsky: Good, good.

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Yeah.

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And if anything, we learned a lot

during COVID about the healing

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power of the outdoors and nature.

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And so we can always go for a bike ride.

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No matter how tumultuous things get, or

how dumb the cabinet turns out to be,

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Ellen Schwartze: can I say that?

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I've heard it called a

drunk drawer, not a cabinet.

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Oh,

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Marley Blonsky: wait, a junk drawer

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Ellen Schwartze: or a drunk drawer?

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Junk with a J, both might apply.

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Yeah.

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Both might apply.

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Yeah.

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And I think with the cabinet, I think a

lot of people are feeling the uncertainty

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of the situation that we're going into.

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Okay.

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I would put myself in that bucket.

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Yeah, so whether, and again,

this is going to be true of any

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administration change, right?

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People are going to flip over

to the other administration.

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What does this mean?

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What does this look like

for bikes right now?

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We're losing Mayor Pete, who's in

charge of transportation right now.

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We love Mayor Pete.

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We love Mayor Pete.

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He's done a great job.

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Whether or not he had a background in

transportation before that, I don't know.

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Yeah, I don't know either.

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He's, but to be fair though,

as well as transportation,

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he's obviously he is a gay man.

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He is part of what we would consider

our All Bodies on Bikes community.

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If he, Mayor Pete, if you want to

hang on a bike ride, let us know.

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Yeah.

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Sounds like you're gonna have

some free time coming up.

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But what does the future of bikes

and transportation look like?

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We can't tell the future.

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We are not clairvoyant, but

we have some indications.

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Marley Blonsky: Yeah.

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And so there were some really big

wins for transportation specifically

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for biking in this election.

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Before we get to that though,

there were some other big wins.

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So the first, and please correct

me if I say this incorrectly.

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But the first openly transgender

person was elected to Congress.

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Yes, Sarah McBride.

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It's a huge step.

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Ellen Schwartze: Huge.

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Yeah.

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And I think it's such a.

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Interesting collision of

the country that we had.

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So I am, I live in Missouri.

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We approved we put abortion access

in the constitution and then voted

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Republican down ballot in this

same year as the first openly

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transgender person is now in Congress.

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And so it's just so wildly

interesting to me that these.

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competing ideals are going to

be in Congress at the same time.

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I think it's just very

illustrative of what's happening.

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Marley Blonsky: Yeah, and obviously

neither of us are political pundits, but

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I've been listening to a lot of it, and

there's so much talk about the economy and

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why people voted one way versus the other,

and, the, they didn't vote all one ticket.

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But it's so fascinating.

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It's,

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Ellen Schwartze: it's really fascinating.

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And I think the, again, just

that the, is it a dichotomy?

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Or juxtaposition?

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Juxtaposition.

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I like that better of having those

two things exist in the same election.

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Is gonna, is really interesting to me in

that coming together as a community idea.

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So where, at the way these elections

shook out to wildly polarized ideals are

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coming together in the same room under

the same roof to make decisions together.

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Marley Blonsky: Hopefully they can

come together and make some decisions.

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Ellen Schwartze: They have to, I

guess they don't have to interact.

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There's 535 people in Congress,

but they're still going

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to be around each other.

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They will have to feign.

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Is that even true anymore?

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I guess you can put, whatever you

want if you're sitting in the stands.

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But yeah, they're gonna they are literally

and figuratively under the same roof.

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Marley Blonsky: Yes.

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And hopefully we can find some common

understanding and some common ground

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and work together for, clearly there's

a lot of folks who are struggling and I

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think that's why the vote turned out the

way that it did because they saw hope.

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in whatever was being offered.

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And hopefully they can come together and

maybe, and this is where I turn into a

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Pollyanna, of, oh, it won't be that bad.

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And then I remember back to 2016

and it I think is going to be

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worse than any of us imagine.

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Ellen Schwartze: I think so.

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When I, and I agree, but, and

as much as I just said, I'm not

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ready for the silver lining yet.

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The other thing that I think I've

acknowledged is progress is not linear.

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That is, we have gotten through

this literally the same person

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and, at the head of, I don't know

that I want to say in charge of.

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Yeah.

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At the head of this administration has

been at the head before there was, as

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far as progressive policies were undone.

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And so we've re two steps

forward, one step back.

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In the grand scheme of progress, it

could be that you only get one step

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forward, two steps back, but you might

still like over the course of the

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last, you, do we want to say 60 years?

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If Ruby bridges turned 70 this

year, I learned she has an

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Marley Blonsky: Instagram.

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Ellen Schwartze: That's amazing.

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I didn't know that I've seen a

lot about her on Instagram, but

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I didn't know she had her own.

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She

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Marley Blonsky: has her own Instagram.

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Ellen Schwartze: So I feel like

there's that Ruby bridges is 70.

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This is all like.

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Not in my I was not, I'm not 70, but my

parents feel like my mother in law is.

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And so since she's been alive is a

lot of where this progress has made.

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And think of the difference there.

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The, the more macro you

can get, the better.

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Obviously there's tons of progress

still left to be made, but that's

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the thing that I anchor in when I

think of the fact that we've got

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four years of this administration.

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Marley Blonsky: is,

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It's gonna happen.

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It's happening.

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It's happening.

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Whether we like it or not.

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Should we talk about some of the wins that

happened specifically in transportation?

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I would love that.

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Neither of us are transportation

wonks both advocates.

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I think I'm adjacent to being a wonk.

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I think you were very close.

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I'm really close.

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Yeah, I think I used to be and

then I've moved away from that and

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I would love to get back into it.

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Ellen Schwartze: I wonder what should

I call myself if it's not a wonk?

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Marley Blonsky: I think you

should take on the wonk named.

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You.

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We said that word too much

and now it sounds weird.

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Anyway we got all of this from People

for Bikes, so if you're not familiar

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with People for Bikes, they are an

incredible organization that does

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advocacy what's the word I almost said

litigating, but they don't litigate

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Lobbying.

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Lobbying on Capitol Hill in

favor of active transportation.

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And so they put together this, we'll put a

link to it so y'all can read because we're

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only going to have a couple of highlights

but there were some really big wins.

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Broad strokes in this

election, there was 27.

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4 billion, with a B, billion Dollars.

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Dollars that was approved

nationwide in this election.

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Ellen Schwartze: Yeah,

for transportation stuff.

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Marley Blonsky: Yes for

active transportation.

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And a lot of that will trickle down to

biking, walking, connected communities.

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It's You can't say it's all for biking

because a lot of it is built into,

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Ellen Schwartze: it's very holistic.

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It's a lot of public transportation

first mile last mile stuff.

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So it's been, it's cool.

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They had a map.

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That is what I think caught both of our

eyes where they highlighted each state

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and how much money each state approved.

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And these are typically like multi year,

multi decade in some cases, programs

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that have been approved, but still 27.

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4 billion is nothing to shake a stick at.

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So we wanted to there's a couple

of things that are not surprises.

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So California had $11 billion approved.

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Marley Blonsky: Nope.

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Sorry.

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Two.

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Yes.

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Specifically, yes, there was 2

billion for Proposition four, which

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supports the construction, maintenance

and improvement of recreation

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and active transportation trails.

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Cool.

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Marley Blonsky: Specifically to

combat the effects of climate change.

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Aha.

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So that's really cool there.

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That is cool.

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Washington where I used to live.

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Again, not surprising that

they voted in favor of this.

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But basically they rejected a measure

that will ensure that funds keep flowing

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for this program called the Move Ahead

Washington Package, which provides 1.

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3 billion for bike and ped

projects, which is really cool.

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Ellen Schwartze: And they rejected

the measure to protect funds.

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Marley Blonsky: It's really complicated.

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Ellen Schwartze: So this is

just like a wording thing.

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It's a wording thing.

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Marley Blonsky: basically there's

a cap and trade emissions scheme in

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Washington for climate change stuff.

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And there was an initiative

to get rid of that.

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Ellen Schwartze: Ah, the

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Marley Blonsky: cap and trade

scheme is what is funding the

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move ahead Washington package.

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And so they voted to protect that

funding, which is really awesome.

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Good job voters.

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Cause that's confusing.

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It is.

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Ellen Schwartze: mean.

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That's the, that's how ballots work.

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Exactly.

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But yeah.

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So I wanted to talk about a

couple of Midwestern things.

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Would you have expect, how much

money do you think Tennessee got?

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I know that, I know the answer, but

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Marley Blonsky: I, I wouldn't think

of Tennessee as being an active

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transportation state and it doesn't

show up on all the radars, even

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though I know there's lots of folks in

Memphis and Nashville doing good work.

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It just hasn't been on my radar.

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Ellen Schwartze: And so Nashville

specifically for past and or they

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passed a tax, like a quarter cent

sales tax, and they're going to get, I

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think it's 3 billion to implement their

public transportation, which includes

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a whole bunch of bike and pet stuff.

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Marley Blonsky: That's so awesome.

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Ellen Schwartze: cool.

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And then the other one we wanted to

highlight was Ohio, which got 6 billion.

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Marley Blonsky: billion for Ohio.

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Ellen Schwartze: 6 billion for Ohio,

holistic, like for the full package.

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And then a third of that is

almost specifically for bikes.

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Marley Blonsky: Yeah, and the plans,

which is really cool, include building

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500 miles of new bike paths, multi

use trails, and sidewalks with 150

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miles planned in the next five years.

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That's pretty

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Ellen Schwartze: great.

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Marley Blonsky: Yeah, 30 miles a year.

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Ellen Schwartze: Yeah, 30 miles a year is

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Marley Blonsky: great.

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Yeah, if I got 30, I live in Bentonville,

so we can't use that as a comparison.

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But when I lived in Seattle, if we

were getting 30 miles of new trail

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across Washington, like that would

be revolutionary for so many people.

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Ellen Schwartze: Same here.

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In Missouri specifically,

that would be awesome.

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I guess I immediately think of

Kansas city, the city where I live.

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It's that would be, that would easily

stretch like a north south corridor.

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Yeah, no problem.

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Marley Blonsky: Yeah.

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And I think that's the thing to

remember is Even a mile long segment

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is

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Marley Blonsky: going to

positively impact so many people.

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And I think that's a way to think

about all of these big things that

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are happening with selection is

they're going to impact real people,

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both positively and negatively.

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Ellen Schwartze: And a lot of times

it's the people who are marginalized

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in some way, who are going to

best use some of this protected

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infrastructure specifically.

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So if we're, especially

if there's an effort to.

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Focus on neighborhoods that are

have dangerous streets, or if we

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can do traffic calming, if it's

high pedestrian networks that have.

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That need the protected

infrastructure that often most

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impacts a vulnerable population.

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Pedestrians are like, inherently

the most vulnerable, but.

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Frequently a pedestrian is

a pedestrian for a reason,

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especially in a spot like Ohio.

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Marley Blonsky: Exactly.

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So there's, there is good news.

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There is good news.

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And I think, to wrap it up

and bring it back community.

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Capital C community is really what's going

to get us through this next four years.

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that, but I've been thinking a lot about

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community because my threads is, if you're

not on threads and you're not following

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me, you should follow me on threads.

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Cause I have some

thoughts there sometimes.

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Good for you.

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I'm

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Ellen Schwartze: not on threads.

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Marley Blonsky: I used to be like, I

was a very early adopter of Twitter.

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that I've used like online,

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I guess community forum has been a big

part of my digital life for a long time.

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threads has been good.

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But I've been, there's a lot of folks

talking about building community there.

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And it's just made me think about what

is a community and making sure that we

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are truly building networks of support.

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I think the word community, not to,

I'm going to get on a soapbox here.

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I think it gets.

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painted with a broad stroke of

this community, that community.

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is a very specific thing.

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It's a group of people that care

about each other's well being.

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around a common interest, that

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could be centered around a place

of worship something like that.

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I think about a bike ride or a group ride.

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We've all been on group rides

that don't feel like a community.

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You're just, you're all there because

you have a shared interest and

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we're going to ride bikes together.

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And then you've been on rides where

it does feel like a community.

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You're taking care of each other.

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You're waiting for each other.

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You're checking on each other's wellbeing.

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And I would urge us all to be

building that second model where

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we're checking on each other.

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We're gathering for dinners, coffee.

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Checking in

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Ellen Schwartze: on

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Marley Blonsky: each

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Ellen Schwartze: other.

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Marley Blonsky: It's huge.

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Ellen Schwartze: Wow.

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Yeah.

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Little things, like little text messages.

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I loved after the election, I got

several people from various walks

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of life, just I know we were in the

same camp, like just checking in.

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That can go so long, even just

in like friendships in general.

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If I can get on my little soapbox,

like the, how you doing text.

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Even if there's not a administration

shift in your life, is really powerful.

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Marley Blonsky: Yeah, that's

kept me going through these

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last three years in Arkansas.

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Of just people checking in on me and

saying, Hey, how you doing Marlee?

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Are you okay?

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And most, not most of the time, some

of the time I have not been okay.

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And that really has been

what's kept me going.

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I don't know, there's a lot of

uncertainty tariffs, who knows

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what's happening with that.

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Ellen Schwartze: Oh yeah, do you

want to talk a little, I think you're

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closer to this, so can you talk

a little bit about how you could

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see that impacting the bike world?

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Marley Blonsky: Yeah so a lot of,

bikes are manufactured overseas.

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Especially the big name brands,

Giant, Cannondale, a lot of those have

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manufacturing facilities overseas.

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And so if these tariffs are imposed

it's likely, and again, not an economist

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but likely it's the end consumer

who usually ends up paying more.

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Because of those tariffs.

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So there's the potential that

things could increase in cost

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manufacturing facilities might shift.

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If we're imposing tariffs on

China, it's possible that factories

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will move to other places.

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I used to work in logistics and

a lot of that was happening.

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There was a big shift away

from China into Vietnam.

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It's an interesting global perspective.

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But so that'll be something

to keep an eye on there.

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Marley Blonsky: Definitely going to

impact the bike industry which is

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already going, undergoing a little

bit, still going through COVID.

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Okay.

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The, and there's lots of good podcasts

about that, about the inventory

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and how everybody was buying bikes.

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And then.

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They overstocked and then

glut of inventory anyway.

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Marley Blonsky: Okay.

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Yeah.

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But the crux of it, all bodies

on bikes is not changing.

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We are here for you.

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If you're feeling alone,

if you're feeling.

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Reach out to us especially if you live

in one of the places where our chapters

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are at, which we're launching five new

chapters in:

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have more about that in future episodes.

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But we want you to know that

we're here and we care about you.

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Ellen Schwartze: We do

care about you a lot.

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So let us know, reach out on Instagram.

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Yeah.

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Instagram is probably, is that

the easiest way to get Instagram?

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The easiest.

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Yeah.

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Maybe let's actually, let's put up

a box and be like, we just launched

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this episode and what did you think?

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And tell us how you're doing.

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Marley Blonsky: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So let us know.

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You can also always send us an email

podcast at all bodies on bikes.

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com and that goes

directly to me and Ellen.

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So yeah, thanks for sticking with us.

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We know you don't tune into All Bodies

on Bikes to hear about election stuff.

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It felt monumentous.

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Yeah, it felt really important.

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Ellen Schwartze: I'm glad we did it.

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I'm glad we're chatting.

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I'm glad you're here on my couch.

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Thanks.

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It feels good.

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It feels like buildings.

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It's just two of us, but it

counts towards community.

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Marley Blonsky: It definitely

counts towards community.

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All

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Ellen Schwartze: Yeah.

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Marley Blonsky: Good

chatting with you, Marley.

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Good chatting with you, Ellen.

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And be well, everybody.

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And we will talk to you soon.

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Ellen Schwartze: This has been a super

good Midwestern goodbye, by the way.

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Like 17 times.

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That's how it goes.

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Bye.

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