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Creating an Authentic Sound for Your Brand: A Conversation with Michael Dargie – Part 2
Episode 32718th February 2026 • Audio Branding • Jodi Krangle
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I’m blown away by it. So, when I close my eyes and I listen to these things, and I hear those textures and I understand the footsteps coming from afar and getting closer and, you know, like, this stuff matters. Like, it paints the picture [so] that I don’t even have to have my eyes open. I can see the whole movie happen with sound.” – Michael Dargie

This episode is the second half of my conversation with founder & executive creative director at Make More Creative, and Author of BrandJitsu™, Michael Dargie as we talk about his approach to uncovering and building up a sonic brand, how close we are to fully synthetic voiceover, and his insights as a marketer and director into what he’s looking for in a voiceover artist.


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(00:00) - Finding Your Brand’s Unique Sound

The second half of our conversation begins as Michael talks about how the art of quickly building up a story in improv intersects with storytelling in branding. “What do you do? Why do you do it? Who do you do it for? Why do they care?” he asks. “It’s that circle of expectations. And it doesn’t have to be perfect and it doesn’t have to be sales-y.” He shares more about his process for establishing a brand’s sonic identity and the building blocks of a successful campaign. “I think from a brand standpoint,” he explains, “and a sound specific standpoint is, ‘What is true for the brand?’ Just to oversimplify, ‘are you comedy, are you rock and roll, or are you country? Are you Donnie or Marie?’”

(12:30) - The Balance of Sound and Storytelling

Michael walks us through his process for casting and directing an ad campaign for a company that wanted to build a more versatile brand image. “We were trying to show that it’s manufacturing,” he tells us, “going from idea to thing to in the hands of somebody who needs a thing. That was the narrative arc. So part of it was I really wanted a feminine voice to tell that story.” He describes the casting process and what sets the right voiceover artist apart from the competition. “I think the other thing too,” he says, “that you’ll know as well is like, are you direct-able? Can you take a note and then do something with it and surprise us with your new approach to it? …Especially when you’re doing a read that’s maybe not even half a page, but you have to go through eight emotions.”

(24:37) - The Future of Sound in Branding

Our conversation wraps up as Michael shares his thoughts about the power of sound, and how critical it is to a successful ad campaign. “It’s not something to be thrown away or to be tucked in at the end,” he tells us. “It’s your palette, and I think it… serves the visual that you’re going for. It’s the subtext for it all.” He tells listeners how they can get in touch and offers his thoughts on AI and where humans fit into the mix. “My agency name is Make More Creative,” he explains, “because that’s what we do… We are using AI for a lot of stuff right now, but we always have people in the mix.”


Episode Summary

  1. Michael’s improv-inspired process for discovering what sound represents a brand.
  2. He explains the importance of sound in building the brand’s narrative.
  3. Michael’s insights on AI voices and the evolving role of sound in marketing.

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86. Singing Blobs and Electric Melodies
00:05:25
85. Interview with Vocal Coach for Singers & Speakers, Julia Langley - Part 2
00:34:01
84. Interview with Vocal Coach for Singers & Speakers, Julia Langley - Part 1
00:34:12
83. Positive Vibes Only
00:05:21
82. Interview with Jim Kennelly & Sam Ufret from Lotas Productions in NYC - Part 2
00:31:08
81. Interview with Jim Kennelly & Sam Ufret from Lotas Productions in NYC - Part 1
00:31:02
80. Interview With Audiologist And Parent Coach, Dr. Lilach Saperstein – Part 2
00:30:08
79. Interview With Audiologist And Parent Coach, Dr. Lilach Saperstein – Part 1
00:29:09
78. Interview with Sonic Branding Strategist & CEO of Pirate Group Inc., Tom Eymundson - Part 2
00:25:11
77. Interview with Sonic Branding Strategist & CEO of Pirate Group Inc., Tom Eymundson - Part 1
00:28:12
76. Bringing Fantasy To Life
00:05:09
75. Interview with Voice Coach, Professional Speaker, & Best-Selling Author, Cynthia Zhai - Part 2
00:25:21
74. Interview with Voice Coach, Professional Speaker, & Best-Selling Author, Cynthia Zhai - Part 1
00:23:12
73. Sounds of the Times
00:05:19
72. Interview with Hamish Macdonald, Managing Director, Squeak E. Clean Studios - Part 2
00:18:53
71. Interview with Hamish Macdonald, Managing Director, Squeak E. Clean Studios - Part 1
00:21:26
70. Listening On The Go
00:05:11
69. Interview with Tal Florentin, Founder & CEO of Summurai - Part 2
00:30:06
68. Interview with Tal Florentin, Founder & CEO of Summurai - Part 1
00:29:07
67. Making The World Go Round
00:05:06
66. Interview With ASMR Performance Artist And Co-Founder Of Whisperlodge, Melinda Lauw – Part 2
00:22:00
65. Interview With ASMR Performance Artist And Co-Founder Of Whisperlodge, Melinda Lauw – Part 1
00:27:41
64. The Power Of Your Voice
00:04:50
63. Interview with Hamburg/Berlin Based Sound Agency, WESOUND - Dr. Cornelius Ringe & Lars Ohlendorf - Part 2
00:31:27
62. Interview with Hamburg/Berlin Based Sound Agency, WESOUND - Dr. Cornelius Ringe & Lars Ohlendorf - Part 1
00:35:48
61. Healing Harmonies
00:04:37
60. Interview with L.A.-Based Music Composer, Chris Wirsig - Part 2
00:22:30
59. Interview with L.A.-Based Music Composer, Chris Wirsig - Part 1
00:20:47
58. Jingles All The Way
00:05:09
57. Interview with Life Coach & Shamanic Sound Healer, Kaye Doran - Part 2
00:29:20
56. Interview with Life Coach & Shamanic Sound Healer, Kaye Doran - Part 1
00:27:08
55. A World of Living Sound
00:07:09
54. Interview with Audio Producer & Voice Talent, Macha Gruber - Part 2
00:33:20
53. Interview with Audio Producer & Voice Talent, Macha Gruber - Part 1
00:40:08
52. Changing The Shape Of Music
00:06:04
51. Interview with Co-founder and CXO of Audio UX, Eric Seay - Part 2
00:33:22
50. Interview with Co-founder and CXO of Audio UX, Eric Seay - Part 1
00:29:50
49. Interview with Confidence Coach & Musician, Emily Rose Giddings - Part 2
00:29:30
48. Interview with Confidence Coach & Musician, Emily Rose Giddings - Part 1
00:26:40
47. Interview with Public Speaker, Educator & Author, Robert Kennedy III - Part 2
00:27:14
46. Interview with Public Speaker, Educator & Author, Robert Kennedy III - Part 1
00:25:38
45. Interview with Editor & Producer, Carrie Caulfield Arick - Part 2
00:25:42
44. Interview with Editor & Producer, Carrie Caulfield Arick - Part 1
00:31:02
43. Interview with Creative Director & Composer, Nick Crane- Part 2
00:27:44
42. Interview with Creative Director & Composer, Nick Crane - Part 1
00:22:15
41. Interview with Podcast Producer & Storyteller, Elaine Appleton Grant- Part 2
00:33:47
40. Interview with Podcast Producer & Storyteller, Elaine Appleton Grant- Part 1
00:37:14
39. Interview With Producer And Voice Director, Jeff Howell – Part 2
00:33:54
38. Interview With Producer And Voice Director, Jeff Howell – Part 1
00:35:21
37. Interview With Casting Director And Coach, Mary Lynn Wissner – Part 2
00:27:42
36. Interview With Casting Director and Coach, Mary Lynn Wissner – Part 1
00:25:57
35. Interview With Technologist and Teacher, Chip Edwards – Part 2
00:19:59
34. Interview With Technologist and Teacher, Chip Edwards – Part 1
00:18:56
33. Interview With Vocal Coach, Judy Rodman – Part 2
00:29:02
32. Interview With Vocal Coach, Judy Rodman – Part 1
00:20:19
31. Interview With Marketing Upheaval Expert, Rudy Fernandez – Part 2
00:20:49
30. Interview With Marketing Upheaval Expert, Rudy Fernandez – Part 1
00:23:08
29. Interview with Multimedia Storyteller, Brandee Sanders – Part 2
00:27:18
28. Interview With Multimedia Storyteller, Brandee Sanders – Part 1
00:39:03
27. Interview with Musician, Author, & Teacher, Bob Baker – Part 2
00:23:19
26. Interview with Musician, Author, & Teacher, Bob Baker – Part 1
00:20:25
25. Interview With Global Brand Strategist, Edward Farley – Part 2
00:20:03
24. Interview with Global Brand Strategist, Edward Farley – Part 1
00:20:05
23. Why Audio Branding? - Tips on How To Be Intentional With Your Sound
00:08:19
22. Interview with Brand & Marketing Motivator, Corey Dissin - Part 2
00:25:04
21. Interview with Brand & Marketing Motivator, Corey Dissin - Part 1
00:29:39
20. Interview with Audio Alchemist, Steve Keller - Part 2
00:31:07
19. Interview with Audio Alchemist, Steve Keller - Part 1
00:31:28
18. Interview with Storyteller, Dave Bricker - Part 2
00:20:16
17. Interview with Storyteller, Dave Bricker - Part 1
00:26:17
16. Interview with Brainwave Entrainment Expert, Morry Zelcovitch - Part 2
00:18:21
15. Interview with Brainwave Entrainment Expert, Morry Zelcovitch - Part 1
00:28:12
14. Interview with Creative Director, Monte Bowden - Part 2
00:25:23
13. Interview with Creative Director, Monte Bowden - Part 1
00:26:21
12. Interview With Josuel Rogers of Hip Hop Culture Coaching - Part 2
00:19:44
11. Interview With Josuel Rogers of Hip Hop Culture Coaching - Part 1
00:17:35
10. The Architecture of Sound
00:03:29
9. Interview with Sound Designer & Studio Owner, John McClain - Part 2
00:13:58
8. Interview with Sound Designer & Studio Owner, John McClain - Part 1
00:18:42
7. 18 Minutes to Harness The Power of Sound
00:04:32
trailer Audio Branding Podcast Trailer
00:00:30
6. Interview with Podcast Producer, Kattie Laur - Part 2
00:22:30
5. Interview with Podcast Producer, Kattie Laur - Part 1
00:18:56
4. This Might Make You Really Uncomfortable
00:04:54
3. Interview With Creative Director, Hannah Strenger
00:16:39
2. Is It Too Late?
00:04:09
1. Intro: Time For A Transition
00:03:43