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Valeria Howard Cunningham: You can
accomplish whatever you want to
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accomplish, and I am especially,
uh, biased to young women because
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we carry a lot of weight, um,
or heavy burdens, I should say.
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Because you're black, you're a woman,
and then you tried the rodeo, you
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know, so don't let anybody tell
you what you can or cannot do.
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Tony Tidbit: We'll discuss race and how it
plays a factor and how we didn't even talk
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Tony Tidbit: Welcome to a Black Executive
Perspective podcast, a safe space where
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Especially raised in corporate America.
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Chris P. Reed: And I'm
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And check out today We have Valeria
Howard Cunningham, president and owner
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of the Bill Pickett Invitational Rodeo,
the world's only African American
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touring rodeo led by a black woman.
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Valeria will discuss the rodeo's
challenging beginnings, her decision
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to continue its legacy, and the
impactful team of black women.
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We're also exploring a significant
milestone since her leadership began
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in 2015 and the community initiatives
driven by the Black, excuse me,
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driven by BPIR Foundation, including
educational retreats, wellness
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programs, and how her team uses rodeo
to foster community empowerment.
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And cultural perseverance,
uh, persuasion, preservation.
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Chris P. Reed: And before we go
into that, I want to dig a little
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bit further into the person that
we'll be engaged with today.
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So let me just give you a little
more information about her.
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Um, and then she'll be able to
color that in with some, some,
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uh, notes and stories, I'm sure.
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But Valeria Howard Cunningham is
the owner and president of the
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Bill Pickett Invitational Rodeo,
the world's only African American
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touring, uh, traveling rodeo.
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Additionally, she leads the Bill
Pickett Memorial Scholarship Fund.
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Before dedicating herself fully to the
rodeo, she was a senior vice president.
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A U.
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Insurance Corporation, one of the
largest insurance brokerage firms
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in the United States for leaders.
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Leadership of the rodeo began in 2015
after the passing of her husband, the
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rodeo's founder moved by the community,
the community's dedication to the event.
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She took on the role to preserve and
enhance its legacy under her guidance.
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The rodeo has reached new heights.
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It's completely thriving, including
the partnerships with prominent rodeo
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boards, a special event in Las Vegas,
and a live broadcast on national TV,
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including a historic broadcast on
Juneteenth Valeria is committed to the
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transfer to transforming the rodeo into
a platform that showcases the resilience.
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And the talent of black
women changing the face of
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traditionally male dominated sport.
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She believes in the power of community
to drive the organization forward,
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celebrating the impact and influence
of black women and blacks in the rodeo.
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Valeria Howard Cunningham, welcome to
a black executive perspective podcast.
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: Thank you.
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I am honored to be with
you gentlemen today.
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Chris P. Reed: Thank you so much So
let's start off by tell us a little
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bit about where you are currently
and where your family is and and
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uh, What's going on currently?
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: Well, I
am currently in Atlanta, Georgia.
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Which is where I live now.
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I moved from Denver, Colorado, to Atlanta.
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After Covid.
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Uh, my family is in California.
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Uh, my husband, my now husband's
family is also in California.
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Um, but his brothers and sisters are.
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Are out here in Georgia and my,
uh, family, some of my family
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is in Columbia, South Carolina.
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So we felt Atlanta was kind of.
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You know, close to everybody,
we could share each other,
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Chris P. Reed: right?
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I love it.
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I love it.
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And so Valeria, we're excited.
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Number one, we're honored
for you to be here.
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I mean, as Chris went through your
bio, um, you have accomplished a
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lot more importantly, you've opened
up so many doors in the industry of
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rodeo, which we're going to dive into.
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And look, you've been on, um,
a lot of publications, you've
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done a lot of podcasts, Chris
talked about the television show.
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So you're in, you know, people
are looking to chat with you.
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You've chatted on a lot of platforms.
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So our question is, why did you want to
come on a Black Executive Perspective
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podcast to discuss this topic?
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: You know,
anytime I have an opportunity to share
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with our community about our journey
and why it's important, and mainly to
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encourage somebody else that's listening,
I want to take that opportunity.
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And so I thank you guys for creating
the, um, venue that you've created
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and allowing me to participate today.
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Uh, because, you know, I
don't get hung up on titles.
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I get hung up on how we can help
each other and lift each other up.
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Tony Tidbit: Well I, listen,
I love that and if everybody
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had that type of attitude.
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There'll be a lot of uplifting going on.
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That's But you, you have uplifted a lot.
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So are you ready to talk about it?
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'cause we are ready to dive into
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: Let's go.
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I'm always ready to talk.
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Tony Tidbit: Alright, let's talk about it.
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Chris P. Reed: You know what, I think what
we should start is at the beginning and
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um, that's always the best place to start.
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Tell us, um, how you.
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found out about this or how you became,
uh, understanding of Bill Pickett
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and, um, the rodeo as a whole, because
from what it sounds like, you didn't
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grow up in the, the Western kind of,
you know, frontier lifestyle, I mean,
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by your accent and everything else.
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I mean, it just seems a little different.
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So it's kind of offsetting.
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I would love to know the origins of
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: Absolutely.
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It's a kind of funny story.
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Um, I was actually traveling back from
Columbia to Denver, Colorado, uh, when
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I met, um, the founder of the Bill
Pickett Invitational Rodeo, Lu Vason
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and, um, He, we were on an airplane and
we were chatting and he asked me about
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a rodeo and I didn't know what a rodeo
was, so I was quite embarrassed about
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that, um, but anyway, he told me what
he was doing, um, we started dating and
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as we started dating, he invited me to
his first rodeo, which was in August.
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Of 1984 However, I had
tickets to michael jackson.
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Um, so i'm afraid to tell
you that michael won out
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Tony Tidbit: And
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: I missed the
first real Bill Pickett invitational
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rodeo however after that, um, I
did as we dated more and I started
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getting uh acclimated To what he was
doing You Um, I was exposed to rodeo.
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Believe me, I had gone back
and done the research so I
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knew what a rodeo was by then.
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Uh, but I got acclimated and one of
the things that stood out to me is that
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the incredible talent that it takes for
these contestants to do what they do.
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Um, you know, and I was
kind of like everybody else.
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You never saw black cowboys or cowgirls
on the television or movie theaters.
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Um, you didn't read about
them in the history books.
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So, I was quite impressed to
see that there were so many
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black cowboys and cowgirls.
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Um, Lu Vason, who is the founder, had gone
to a rodeo in:
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um, to Cheyenne Frontier Gates, and it
is called the Grandfather of Rodeos.
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And when he went there, he noticed that he
did not see anybody that looked like him.
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So he came back and did his research.
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Um, he found in his research that
there were thousands of black cowboys
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and cowgirls across the country, but
they were not given the opportunity
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to perform on certain platforms.
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He met with a lot of different, um,
black historians, like Paul Stewart,
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at the, uh, African American Heritage,
um, Rodeo in Denver, Colorado.
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And just learned everything he could about
blacks in the development of the West.
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Uh, he reached out to other people
across the country, stock contractors,
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black stock contractors, to learn more.
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And after he, uh, was doing,
as he was doing his research,
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he said, You know what?
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This story needs to be told.
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I am going to create an African
American Rodeo Association, and I am
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going to allow that association to
educate people, entertain people, and,
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um, he stu he did that by creating
the Bill Pickett Invitational Rodeo.
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Now, when he started the first rodeo,
it was not called Bill Pickett.
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It was just called the Black Rodeo.
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And doing his research He learned
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reached out to the Pickett family and
asked if he could name the rodeo, uh,
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after Bill Pickett, because the world
needed to know who Bill Pickett was.
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and gave permission, and ever since
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then, um, the rodeo has been called
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So that gives you a little
history about how it started,
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Chris P. Reed: right?
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Let me say something that I think may
have escaped you and maybe it hasn't
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but you talked about you learning of a
rodeo doing your research and you talked
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about he Learning going to Cheyenne
Wyoming and seeing the rodeo and then
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doing his research for all of our
younger viewers There was no internet.
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He didn't Google that he
had to go read up on that.
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And it was painstaking for you to come
back in 84 and learn about something.
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It wasn't just, you get on your phone
and you type in a word and it gives
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you everything people's opinions of.
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You know, this thing is, you really
had to, you really liked this man.
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So, you know, you had
to go and do the work.
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Valeria Howard Cunningham:
You had to go to the library.
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Chris P. Reed: You had to go to the
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Tony Tidbit: libraries, encyclopedias
that are 20 years old, right?
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By the time you get them.
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: You,
you had to do your research
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and you are absolutely correct.
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You know, we forget about the old days
where things were not at our fingertips
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You had to work to educate yourself.
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It did not come easy.
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You had to talk to people.
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You had to seek people out.
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You had to read books.
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You had to, um, spend time in a life.
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Um, yeah, that's what it was all about.
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But we were in that generation About
um, maybe educating ourselves about
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things that we didn't know about
and not, and I am very thankful that
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you couldn't, you didn't have this,
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Tony Tidbit: right, right,
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: push a button
and somebody tells you what to do.
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What you ought to think are what maybe
you ought to know, um, and then spending
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time with the people in the rodeo,
learning, hearing their stories, learning
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what they were about their struggles,
um, it just made you appreciate.
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Uh, these black cowboys and cowgirls
and want to tell their stories, want to
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provide them a platform, uh, like no other
platform that they had been provided.
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And that was one of Lu's, um, main
objectives is to create a platform
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that they had never been on.
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Now, they did a lot of backyard rodeos.
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You know, but that's backyard.
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He wanted them to go into venues and
buildings and that they've never been in
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and open doors for them to, um, progress
to the next level of the association.
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I can tell you at the beginning,
we were like a feeder ground.
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People would come and rodeo with
our, um, association, learn.
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Uh, their skills or, you know, um,
just get better at what they're doing.
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And then they would leave us and
go to the white rodeo associations.
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And that's good.
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That wasn't a bad thing.
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That was a great thing because then
we're introducing black cowboys and
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cowgirls to a much larger audience.
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When we talk about what your husband
started, your, your former husband,
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um, and you talked about how it's
important, um, to have a platform to
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share the stories that the Cowboys
and Cowgirls was going through.
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I would love for you to share the
story of what you guys were going
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through in terms of the resistance.
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That you dealt with, because here's the
thing now, I've been to Cheyenne, Wyoming,
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okay, and I, I, I just sit here and think,
the courage, that when he said he went
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to a rodeo in Cheyenne and he didn't see
anybody look like him, I'm just amazed
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Tony Tidbit: Okay.
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And then the resistance of trying to start
something, that history has erased, right?
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I don't think a lot of people who
were coming to those rodeos knew about
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the black cowboys and, and people
before them and the buffalo soldiers.
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And then the Mexicans and the Native
Americans who actually were the,
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at the forefront when it came to
lassoing and, and all the things
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that you do from a rodeo standpoint.
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So now, You're trying to break in
to an industry that's a hundred
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percent white, I would imagine.
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And more importantly, you want
to elevate the people whose
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voices are being silenced.
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And then to be able to do
that, where there's nothing
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you could look at as a guide.
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To say, this is the
handbook of how to do it.
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Talk to us a little about, because.
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The average person dealing with
that type of, um, you know, that's
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how you can also call it insult.
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You can also say it's insurmountable.
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Wouldn't want to pick up that, that cross
and carry that cross because they had
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a million reasons why it wouldn't work.
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So talk a little bit about that
resistance that you guys went
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: Absolutely.
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And, and, um, I'm glad you brought that
up because the journey has not been easy.
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Um, when Lu and, and you have to
know his background to understand it.
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He was a concert promoter.
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Um, he put groups together
like the Pointer Sisters.
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He was the manager of Whispers.
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I mean, he promoted, uh, black, uh,
entertainment all across the country.
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But one thing you, when he said he
was going to do something, it was
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going to happen, irregardless of
who said it wasn't going to happen.
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And, uh, when he made the decision
that he was going to create this
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rodeo association, the first thing
you would be surprised at is that
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the black, his black friends and
community, uh, was very negative.
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They were constantly
telling him he was crazy.
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He was not going to be successful.
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Nobody was going to attend.
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Um, you were just, you know,
barking up the wrong tree.
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It was just the constant
negative, negative, negative.
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Um, he forged ahead.
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When I talked about the first rodeo
in Denver, it was sold out and it
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got a lot of people's attention.
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He couldn't get sponsors.
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For that rodeo because first thing
we're talking about:
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doing something for the first time.
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It's not proven.
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Nobody's gonna give you any money because
they don't know if one person's going to
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show up or 3000 people are gonna show up.
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: now you are out
there just betting on, uh, beyond unknown.
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After he did that first show,
he was able to convince.
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Um, some sponsors and I'm not going
to call anybody's name, um, but some
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sponsors to support which they did.
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But let me share this with you because
he wanted to sing a black national
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anthem and have a black American
flag in the opening of the rodeo.
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It caused chaos to the nth degree.
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And, um, corporate was saying, you can't
do that, we're not going to support you.
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Um, so,Luiu beiLuiu said, take your money
and put it where the sun doesn't shine.
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Tony Tidbit: I love it.
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: And,
you know what, they, um, acclimate,
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but
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Tony Tidbit: Okay.
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: In a much less,
Um, wait, so you have to, lesson that I
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learned from that is that everything has
to be managed and you have to learn from
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every experience that you go through.
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Now he was pissed off, so you take him
in, you sit him down and breathe deeply
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because you can't make this happen.
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Without their money.
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Tony Tidbit: So true.
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That's
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the reality of life.
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Tony Tidbit: That's so true.
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They
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: control
everything and you can't make
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this happen without their money.
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So how do we do what we need to do
and try to keep everybody happy?
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We figured it out.
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Um, and we still had the African American
flag, the black flag, because we were
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not going to compromise on that subject.
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Um, as things.
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People began to accept it as they saw
a number of people that were supporting
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the rodeos around the country.
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He expanded.
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At one time, Lu was doing 13 rodeos,
and I was learning more of the business,
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and I was I'm that person that will
challenge you and anybody else.
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Um, okay, you're doing all these
rodeos because you want everybody
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in the United States to be exposed.
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But, some of these shows
aren't making any money.
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You're losing your shirt.
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And, you've got to evaluate
the business aspect of it.
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And so, finally I was able
to get through to him.
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And he decided, okay, I'm in.
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What, what do we do?
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What don't we do?
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And we were able to create a circuit
with support, uh, of the communities.
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And then with that support of the
community, the sponsors continue
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to support RK9 as new supporters.
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I tell anybody that asks this
question, the journey was not easy.
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There were times that we got many
conversations about, we don't
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have the money to move forward.
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So it would have been very easy for
us to say, okay, it's done, it's over.
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But we didn't.
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We found a way to do it
personally, uh, until the rodeo
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was able to sustain itself.
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Chris P. Reed: You come off to
me as a very conscientious, level
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headed, well thought, uh, person.
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And it seems like you've
always been that way.
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And he was a maverick,
like you said, you know.
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He, he, he was a, he
was ahead of his time.
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Let me say, both of you,
both of you, congratulations.
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And, and, and I appreciate the fact that
you guys were, So ahead of your time
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in this, we're going to do it our way.
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We're going to make our own path.
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Um, but as trailblazers, it's interesting
that your influence in the business world.
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Was able to meld into what he
was doing as a visionary leader.
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And you guys work so well together
and that's a wonderful thing, but I
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know that you have cowgirls, you spoke
with cowboys and cowgirls earlier.
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And so you have steer wrestlers
and calf ropers and, you know, uh,
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bulldoggers and things like that.
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But of the women that you've assembled
since you've taken over, um, this, this
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wonderful panel of, of, uh, intellectuals.
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That actually lead this charge
into the next generation to expose
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this to communities like he wanted
and to carry out his vision.
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Are any of them cowgirls?
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Because you're not a cowgirl.
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You more of a business Maverick
kind of mogul type chick.
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Tony Tidbit: I mean, that was
a fortuitous flight, right?
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Because you, he met
exactly what he needed.
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Right.
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Exactly.
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Right.
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: Well, you know,
I believe that God always put, uh, the
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right people together at the right time,
not at our time, but at the right time.
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So if I could back up and just
share, um, the journey and
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what I mean by the journey.
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Is that, uh, Lu became ill and he was
not able to travel with the rodeo.
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So I was kind of the front person for the
rodeo and I got to know everybody, the
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cowgirls, the coordinators in each market.
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Um, you know, because now I'm pushing
the buttons and, and, and, um,
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listening to what they want to do and.
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Either saying yes or no.
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So anyway, um, after Lu passed, I
have to tell you, I was like a deer
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just staring in the headlights.
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Um, but people from across the
country, excuse me, reached out to
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me many different ways, telephone
letters, email, um, just asking
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me not to let The rodeo go.
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And it was interesting as I talked to
them or read their stories, how much the
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rodeo meant to them and their families.
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I mean, some people share it with
me that when they came to the rodeo
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the first time, they were pregnant.
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And then they brought their kids to the
rodeo every year since then, and now
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their kids were having kids, and they
wanted them to, their grandkids, to have
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the experience, and I'm going, wow, you
know, you never, I had never thought
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about that, but that was, um, it was just
very impressive, and going, okay, This
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rodeo has had an effect on our community.
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So if I become selfish and say,
this wasn't my dream, I'm going,
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I'm going to let it go.
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I'm hurting the community.
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So I decided, okay, what would
it look like if I forged ahead?
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The women.
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Around me, Margo Wade LeDrew, who
is, um, she was the coordinator in
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Los Angeles, said, I got your back.
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You're not on this journey by yourself.
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My daughter in law, Sherry Vasan,
in Oakland, California, she's the
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Oakland coordinator, says, we're
with you every step of the way.
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Um, Cowgirls, Stephanie
Haynes, Denise Tyus.
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Carolyn Carter, they all are like,
girl, we got you, don't worry about it.
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What you don't know, you're
going to learn, we got you.
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And so, you know, at that
moment, I felt I can do this,
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I can do this.
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And so we forged ahead and since 2015,
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we have been on an incredible journey.
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We have been like sisters.
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We love each other, but we disagree.
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We've had fallen outs, but at the
end of the day, we hugging and
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making up and we're marching forward.
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And so I hope that just gives you an
answer to your question, because I would
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not have been able to do this without
the encouragement and the support.
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Of these sisters saying
we can do this right now.
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Don't get me wrong We need the men
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because I need them out in that arena
taking care of things And I need them
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to also impart knowledge, uh, to me,
uh, things that I need to be aware of
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when I'm talking to stock contractors.
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And remember all the stock
contractors were white stock contract.
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Tony Tidbit: Now
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: talking
to a black woman, I can tell
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you the first year, it was very
interesting because they thought I
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was just another little pretty face.
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That I didn't know what I was doing and
when we when it came down to Negotiating
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they found out that sister girl Knew
what she was talking about and you know
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what life has progressed um, but not
without challenges even when you are
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trying to negotiate tv buys or radio
buys or whatever um People just assume
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that because you're a black female,
you don't know what you're doing.
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Tony Tidbit: Right.
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So you have to
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Valeria Howard Cunningham:
prepare yourself.
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And to the audience, I would say to young
people, You can be anything you want to
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be, prepare yourself, equip yourself,
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and the sky is the limit.
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Chris P. Reed: Let me ask you
this, because you assembled a
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board of directors, uh, of women
that you trusted and that you grew
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to love and that supported you.
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But in the idea of, it was still male
dominated, it was still white dominated.
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Correct.
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Y'all really stacked the deck against
yourself being, Predominantly women, first
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and foremost, let's just keep it real.
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And then obviously black women,
black women, black, unapologetic.
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Like you said, y'all still,
y'all ain't come off the flag.
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Y'all didn't come off the, the, the
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Tony Tidbit: black dudes was
dealing with a bunch of stuff.
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If a husband Dylan,
think about black women.
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Chris P. Reed: So, so with that
being said, and you talked about how
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the, your people big upping you and
taking you under their wings, there's
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no greater feeling than that when
you get that support, when you get
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that, that envelopment of your folks.
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But what was the moment where you
realized, man, we pulled it off.
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Like I know there had to
be some trepidation in the
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beginning like no question.
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I understand you were
thinking I can do it.
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I can do it.
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But it's different when it actually
comes to truition when it actually,
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you know, turns the corner and when
they finally start respecting you, man.
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So what was that moment
where y'all realize?
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Damn,
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: we was right.
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Well, you know, you have to
understand the personalities.
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Tony Tidbit: Okay.
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: Um, And I think
Margo, understanding her personality,
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she is, she was trained by Mr.
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Johnson from, uh, Ebony
Publishing Company,
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Tony Tidbit: B.
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P., B.
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T., B.
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T., yeah, yeah, yeah,
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: uh,
so, you know, she learned a lot.
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She was buying, she was selling,
she was doing all of that.
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And just when she and I would
have conversations, we would talk
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about, um, you know, we need this
for sponsorship to make this work,
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to lift it to the next level.
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I got this.
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We can make this happen.
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Give me some time.
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Let me think about it.
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We're going to put it together.
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She put it together.
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We worked through it.
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Let's add this.
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Let's take this away.
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Let's do this.
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And she went out and she got the money.
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I call her the bulldog because one
thing she knows how to do is say, okay.
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And she is committed to this rodeo.
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Sometimes I think more than me and she
owns the responsibility of making sure we
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have the funds to do what we want to do.
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She's a creative person.
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She was, she's a lot by Lu.
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She's creative.
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Um, and she finds ways to finance
her creativity, if that makes sense.
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So just knowing that I had that with, in
her and she came through and I would say
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the first year that we were successful
in getting larger amounts of money.
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Okay.
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I'm like, I didn't have a major
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celebration, really, it was
just, okay, we did this.
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So if we did this, we can do more.
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We can keep lifting and moving
and creating this rodeo to the
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level of what we want it to be.
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And I, to be honest with you, I don't
think we ever stopped and celebrated.
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Tony Tidbit: Right.
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Right.
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We
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: just, uh, maybe
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in a, in a quiet moment with each
other, we would say great job.
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Good job.
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But in the next breath.
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Okay.
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What's the next step?
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Tony Tidbit: Right.
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: Because
we don't get the opportunity
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to celebrate like that.
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You've always got to be 10 steps ahead.
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And, and I will say this year.
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Right.
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Was the first year that we
actually celebrated everywhere
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we went and felt good about it.
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Tony Tidbit: That's awesome.
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: Sold out
every show across this country that
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we, uh, the support we got, um, we
celebrated that because we felt what we
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had created over the last nine years.
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Got us to this point.
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And we wanted to share and
celebrate with everybody else.
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So I hope that answer your question
I can tell you for me personally I
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felt very good about this year because
I did celebrate it was a hard year.
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Um, first time a black rodeo added over
200, 000 in prize money and gifts Anywhere
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in the United States, we did that, um,
and I felt good that we were able to do
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that for the black cowboys and cowgirls,
that their journey with us for the last
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40 years, they deserved something special.
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Tony Tidbit: Right, right.
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And we
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Valeria Howard Cunningham:
were able to give that.
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Tony Tidbit: Well, not only did you give
that, and so number one, I want to applaud
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you and your team for Because in the way
you're so elegant and telling the story,
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um, but at the day, I know it was tough.
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Okay?
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And for you, flat out, for you
to take over, um, and, and you,
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and your team come together.
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And that's great from a, a, a,
you know, a dream standpoint.
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But then the reality, Uh, what
you're dealing with over and over
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again in a space where there's not
a lot of people that look like you.
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Okay.
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That's tough to do.
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And I love what you said earlier
when you said, Hey, when he passed
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away, people came and was like,
we don't want you to give this up.
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And what was your response?
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Your response was, I can't be selfish.
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If it was any time for you to say I'm
done and to be fair, let's be fair.
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You could have easily, you did a lot.
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So it wasn't that you were being selfish.
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It just, it ran its course.
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But for you to have that stick to it ness,
and more importantly, when they continue
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to give to the community was beautiful.
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So my question is.
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Talk about some of the other things
outside of the rodeo, like your
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foundation, college fund, retreats,
that you guys still contribute
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and uplift people, Black people
all around the country, right?
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That's outside of the rodeo.
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: Well, one
of the things that I think we as a
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people have to remember is that when
someone gives something to you, You
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should always get back and we had
been very fortunate, um, that as we
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continued to rodeo 2015, 2016, 2017, um,
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2018,
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and I'm thinking 2019 was COVID.
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Tony Tidbit: 2020.
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: 2020.
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Okay.
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So 2019.
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Then we took, uh, two years off
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Tony Tidbit: in 2020.
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: And I'll,
I'll share with you about:
2021
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Um, but then we started back up in 2022
and it's like, we didn't lose a beat.
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The community was there.
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They were ready.
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They were supporting us.
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So we have always had a nonprofit
foundation where we gave scholarship
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in every city that we went to.
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We try to identify.
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Um, a young person who was graduating
from high school that was going to
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college in some, um, profession that
could be used with a veterinarian, uh,
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business, agriculture, whatever, um, that
we could give a scholarship to and help.
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So we did that in 2023,
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we realized as a result of COVID.
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That we needed to do more
and we changed the name.
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Our name of our foundation was the
Bill Pickett Memorial Scholarship Fund.
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We were just focused on
scholarships, but we knew that we
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had to do more with our community.
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So we changed the name legally to
the Bill Pickett Invitational Rodeo
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Foundation, because while we were
doing, we were, um, on time out.
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We called it.
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It was our obligation to still
feed our communities and want to
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say, feed them, feed them about
our black cowboys and cowgirls.
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Um, we did virtual rodeos for them.
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We did videos of, uh, um, the cowboys
and cowgirls, even our young people, uh,
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just educating people about, uh, rodeo.
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We also educated people about COVID.
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What you need to do your responsibility
to yourself and to others And that opened
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the door to say, you know what we have
such a large audience Our impact can
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even be larger So with that name change
we start focusing on wellness um suicide
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violence domestic violence Providing
people the things that they needed to
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know Uh, making sure they felt safe,
giving them, uh, input, information,
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how to do what they needed to do.
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Um, it was important that they
saw us as a community resource.
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In 2023,
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the latter part of 2023, The USDA awarded
us with a Grand, which opened the doors
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00:43:10
for us to hold workshops with young
Americans in every city to educate them
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00:43:18
about the opportunities that they don't
know about that exists in agriculture.
627
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00:43:24
And with the USDA, it's like a
hidden gem that people hide from us.
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00:43:34
And so, We're like, okay, we have
thousands of people that come to us.
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I bet you we can get young
adults that want to learn more.
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And guess what?
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We've been very successful.
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Um, we've had workshops in every
city that we've gone to this year.
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We did a one week, um, retreat.
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With 35 students, tell me that that
was interesting experience to have
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35 young people for a whole week,
trying to entertain them, trying to
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educate them, and just embody them,
um, about what's real and we did that.
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And, um, I'm happy to say we forged.
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Relationships that not only with them,
but with their parents, um, that they're
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still calling us and we're getting ready
to do, uh, two additional workshops
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here in Atlanta, because the parents
and the students were so impressed.
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They've gotten their friends together now.
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00:44:57
And they want them to be exposed to that.
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00:45:01
That's what I mean about
giving back to the community.
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00:45:05
We each have a responsibility to help
each other, uplift each other, and educate
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00:45:15
us about things that we don't know.
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00:45:18
Everybody is not going
to be a LeBron James.
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00:45:21
Everybody is not going to be,
um, an Usher or a Beyonce.
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00:45:29
That's all I have to say.
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You know, so we need to create
realistic, um, awareness with our
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young people of things that they
might be interested in, career
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opportunities that exist in those things.
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00:45:48
And so that's what we're doing.
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We're all over the place,
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Tony Tidbit: creating
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Valeria Howard Cunningham:
new things every day.
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Um, you know, I'm a 32 year.
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Breast cancer survived.
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00:46:01
So I make sure at our finals in, uh, D.
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C.
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in September that we are
focused on breast cancer.
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00:46:13
Um, we also focus on prostate cancer.
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00:46:18
Man, you know how you guys are.
663
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00:46:21
You don't like to go to the doctor.
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You wait until it's too late.
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00:46:26
So we're, we're trying to
do those things that we can.
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To say to them, we love you, you
love us, we love you, let's take
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00:46:37
this information and do something
with it, take care of yourself.
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00:46:42
Tony Tidbit: I love it, I love it.
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You know, I gotta, you know, one of
the things I was sitting here as you
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were saying all these things, um,
:
1984
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you were in the insurance industry.
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Absolutely.
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Okay.
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And, you know, I'm just
sitting here just like, wow.
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And 40 something years later.
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You've been in the rodeo industry,
you've partnered with somebody that was a
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maverick, and then you became a maverick,
and took that legacy to the next level.
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00:47:22
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Tony Tidbit: And then to your
point, now you're giving back.
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So if you had to, and I know you say you
guys will celebrate as much or whatever
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:
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the case may be, and this year you were
able to celebrate, if you just took
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a second and look back 40 something
years ago, 40 years ago, because it's,
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you know, 84, 2024, what do you say?
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What do you take out of that?
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Because, you know, there's an
old saying, um, oh, and this
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is just something I believe.
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Is that God takes our weakness and makes
it a strength and sometimes where we
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:
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think our, we want to go, our life is
going, he has a curveball and throws a
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curveball and if you're receptive to it,
right, you got to be receptive to it.
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00:48:31
It takes you places that
you never thought of.
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So can you speak to that a little bit?
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: I can and
I I can tell you personally gives me
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excitement about the rodeo today is that
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I would say in 2016 and 17.
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I can't remember the exact year, but we
added some junior events um to the rodeo
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00:49:00
Junior barrel racing junior breakaway
peewee barrel racing Now, we have four
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00:49:09
to seven year olds competing, and the
juniors, they're seven to thirteen.
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00:49:16
Now, when I see these kids,
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I, I mean, it just melts your heart,
because they are so passionate about what
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they do, and they never thought about,
Oh my God, I'm going to perform them.
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00:49:41
Are compete in front of thousands of
people and they see the crowd standing
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00:49:48
on their feet cheering them on.
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00:49:50
Can you imagine being 5 years old or
4 years old or 6 years old or even
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00:49:57
9 years old and experiencing that
thousands of people up celebrating
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:
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you and what you're doing.
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Can you just imagine.
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00:50:08
The encouragement that that's
giving those young people.
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I get excited about that because
what we what we have done is we
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have created our future champions.
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They are never going to leave rodeo.
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Trust me.
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00:50:29
Um, they are excited.
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They are out there.
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00:50:34
They are becoming better at
their Events and their skills,
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00:50:41
and they've formed this little
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:
00:50:46
friendship sisterhoods and
brotherhoods with each other.
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00:50:52
And, um, I, I get excited about seeing
that because I know every time I see
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them, I'm seeing the future generation
of Bill Pickett Invitational Rodeo.
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One day, one or a couple of
those little kids are gonna
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00:51:08
be leading this organization.
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00:51:11
And that's what I celebrate
and I get excited about.
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00:51:16
You know, I have two young ladies, uh,
Kanesha Jackson and Danesha Henderson.
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I remember when their mothers were
competing with them in their bellies.
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00:51:29
And they have grown up with the rodeo.
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Each of them have their own kids now.
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And their kids are those ones that I
just talked about, you know, so you,
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:
00:51:42
you just see that and you know, Kanisha
and Denisha came to me last year and
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they said, let's, we have this, this
idea that we would like to bring to you.
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And I said, what is it?
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00:51:56
They said, we want to do a live,
um, rodeo talk for the Bill
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00:52:03
Pickett Invitational Rodeo.
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00:52:06
With the contestants, before each
rodeo, we got to tell them, get them
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pumped up, get them psyched, and, you
know, and they've done it consistently.
739
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And they are creative and
they take ownership of it.
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00:52:19
My two flag bearers that carry the
American flag and the black national flag.
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00:52:26
Um, see Paris is 15 and Courtney is 14.
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00:52:34
They didn't know each other.
743
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00:52:37
And so we asked them to do this for us
because we didn't have anybody else.
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00:52:43
If I try to get somebody else to do
that now, they, they not having it.
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00:52:50
That's, that's, they are so proud of
that, and what they do, and, um, those
746
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00:52:59
are the things that I get excited about.
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00:53:03
Courtney and Paris didn't know
each other, uh, when Paris came
748
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00:53:10
to the rodeo, now she's been
with the rodeo about five years.
749
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00:53:13
Courtney was born in the rodeo, okay?
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00:53:17
So she's been with us for 14 years, and
now Courtney and Paris are best friends.
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00:53:25
One live in Arkansas, one
lives in Hempstead, Texas.
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00:53:32
Just to see those girls at every
rodeo, loving on each other,
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00:53:38
embracing each other, helping each
other with their horses and stuff.
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00:53:44
They compete against each other,
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00:53:48
but it's about the love.
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00:53:50
I mean, you can't buy that anywhere.
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00:53:54
And so those, that's my celebration.
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00:53:58
Chris P. Reed: Over the years,
you've cultivated a passion.
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00:54:01
Um, into something that has become
a workshop for animal husbandry
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00:54:05
for, for black folks, uh, a venue,
a sporting venue, a league that
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:
00:54:10
you own and manage for black folks.
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00:54:12
Um, you've been able to, uh,
reach different states, different
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00:54:16
people on different levels.
764
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Obviously coming from Illinois, I remember
coming to Texas and my brother said,
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:
00:54:21
man, it's black folks riding horses and
doing all this other stuff down here.
766
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And he went to the black rodeo
and he was so excited about
767
:
00:54:27
it and went multiple times.
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Um, in that.
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I would just like to congratulate
and thank you, not just as a
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pillar of the community, but Ms.
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Valeria, you're a pillar of
the culture because you're a
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historian for black folks as well.
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00:54:39
You're helping us understand where
we fit into America, not just
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00:54:43
black America, but America and the
cowboy heritage that we inherited.
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00:54:47
And this goes on, and as you
said, you're passing this on.
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:
00:54:51
As a historian would so you wear so many
hats and like you said, it's a lot of
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00:54:54
things going on, but I want to applaud you
and thank you and your team for being all
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00:54:59
of these things that we need at this time
in our history, in our place in the world,
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00:55:04
as we're still trying to make our way.
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:
00:55:06
You guys are just undeterred and
undaunted and just making it happen.
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00:55:09
And so we definitely here at a
black executive perspective podcast.
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:
00:55:12
Want to applaud and salute
you guys tremendously.
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So thank you.
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Can
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00:55:16
Valeria Howard Cunningham: I share
one thing with you that I left out?
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Thank you.
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It's very important.
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00:55:22
Um, the 2020 cobit 2021 cobit still going
on and then i'm sure each of you have
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00:55:33
heard of the pbr Professional bull riding
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:
00:55:37
Tony Tidbit: bull riding.
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:
00:55:37
Yep.
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00:55:39
Valeria Howard Cunningham: They are
a multi million dollar operation
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00:55:45
um And they approach the bill
picket About partnering with them.
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00:55:54
We did a show with them in Vegas
called showdown in Vegas in:
2021
795
:
00:56:01
the MGM Grand, no other black Rundio
has ever been in the MGM Grand.
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:
00:56:11
First thing you couldn't afford it.
797
:
00:56:14
We went in there, uh, with them in
that partnership, it was televised
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00:56:23
live on national television by CBS.
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00:56:27
On Juneteenth that year, which was
the same year that President Biden
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00:56:34
made Juneteenth a national holiday.
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:
00:56:38
Now you couldn't align the
stars any better than that.
802
:
00:56:43
So I must thank the PBR
because that was something
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:
00:56:53
elevate the Bill Pickett
imitation of rodeo.
804
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00:56:58
They were so excited about
the partnership on that day.
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:
00:57:03
That they gave us, uh, offered us
a residency program in Fort Worth,
806
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00:57:11
Texas, and we do four shows there
each year in partnership with the PBR.
807
:
00:57:20
We're now entertaining international
audiences, uh, this February
808
:
00:57:26
at our Black History Month
celebration there in February.
809
:
00:57:30
We had nine different
countries represented.
810
:
00:57:35
Um, we are live streamed on Pluto,
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00:57:43
every rodeo.
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:
00:57:45
They do Bill Pickett
Marathon on Juneteenth.
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:
00:57:52
Every year.
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:
00:57:53
I mean, if you just want it
rodeo, you can curl up on your
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:
00:57:58
couch, get your popcorn, just
816
:
00:58:00
Tony Tidbit: chill out
817
:
00:58:01
Valeria Howard Cunningham: and just
chill out for 24 hours, watching
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:
00:58:05
the Bill Pickett imitation of rodeo.
819
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00:58:07
So I am so thankful to them that they
saw value in what we were doing and
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wanted to partner with us to help us.
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00:58:22
Elevate.
822
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00:58:23
I keep using that word.
823
:
00:58:25
Tony Tidbit: You
824
:
00:58:26
Valeria Howard Cunningham: can't, you
can't forget where you came from and you
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:
00:58:31
always must struggle to elevate yourself.
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00:58:35
Tony Tidbit: So I, I
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00:58:37
Valeria Howard Cunningham: absolutely
wanted to talk about that partnership.
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And in Denver, Colorado, with the national
Western stock show, Uh, in January, we
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00:58:49
do what is called the MLK, uh, Rodeo,
which is live stream on the Cowboy Champ.
830
:
00:58:57
And, uh, we celebrate Rodeo
with Martin Luther King's
831
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00:59:02
message of unity and justice.
832
:
00:59:06
So you can see that we use our platform
to deliver a lot of different messages.
833
:
00:59:15
Uh, throughout the years,
we rodeo and have fun,
834
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00:59:19
Tony Tidbit: uh, with people.
835
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00:59:20
That is awesome.
836
:
00:59:22
And so, I would like you to utilize
this platform as you have thus
837
:
00:59:25
far, and give final thoughts.
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:
00:59:28
What would be some advice that
you would give, because you are a
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00:59:33
giver, and you guys have been giving
for the last 40 something years.
840
:
00:59:38
What's some advice would you give?
841
:
00:59:40
a young person like yourself or a young
individual like your, your husband in
842
:
00:59:46
terms of them over starting something
that seems insurmountable and then being
843
:
00:59:51
able to move forward to overcome it.
844
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00:59:55
Valeria Howard Cunningham:
Wow, that's, um, a loaded,
845
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01:00:01
loaded.
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01:00:02
And I, I kind of touched
on this previously.
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01:00:06
And what I would like to say to young
people is just understand, um, that
848
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01:00:15
no journey in life is on a tape.
849
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01:00:22
And we have to start telling
ourselves that, you know, we've been
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:
01:00:26
beat down So much, um, by society
as a whole, and sometimes just by
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01:00:33
parents, I, don't get me wrong.
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01:00:36
Right.
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01:00:36
They're telling their kids
they're nothing, they're never
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01:00:39
going to amount to anything.
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:
01:00:42
You have to have confidence in yourself.
856
:
01:00:46
You have to decide what journey
you want for yourself, and then
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01:00:52
prepare yourself for that journey.
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01:00:55
Nobody is giving out anything.
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:
01:00:57
Nothing is going to come easy.
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:
01:01:00
Right.
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01:01:00
So you have to prepare yourself.
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:
01:01:03
So young people, do the work, do
the work, and then know if you
863
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01:01:12
do the work, you can accomplish
whatever you want to accomplish.
864
:
01:01:18
And I am especially, uh, biased to young
women because we carry a lot of weight,
865
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01:01:29
um, or heavy burdens, I should say.
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:
01:01:33
Because you're black, you're a woman,
and then you tried the rodeo, you
867
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01:01:42
know, so don't let anybody tell
you what you can or cannot do.
868
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01:01:50
I, uh, was communicating
with one of our cowgirls.
869
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01:01:55
I'm gonna just share this
with you very briefly.
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01:02:00
She started the year and it wasn't going
well for and she had a couple bad rodeos
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and she was so mad at herself, she said.
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You know, I'm just gonna quit.
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I said, you can't do that.
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You can't do that.
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And I know one of my staff
members, cowgirl staff member,
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spent some time encouraging her,
telling her, you need to do this.
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You need to do that.
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You need to do this.
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She listened and she came back.
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She won the 2024 war.
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Ladies Breakaway Championship.
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Tony Tidbit: Awesome.
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Awesome.
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As
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: a result
of that, she just competed in Denver,
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Colorado at the All Star Rodeo Theater.
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She didn't win it, but she came in second.
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I just talked to her yesterday to
say, I'm so glad you didn't quit.
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Now, are you glad?
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You didn't quit and she all she could
say was thank you for the encouragement
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That's what we have to do for each other.
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Tony Tidbit: Yes Yes,
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01:03:23
Valeria Howard Cunningham: lift each
other up not listen to the naysayers
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01:03:27
not buy into the negative stuff Just
know whatever you want to do you can
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01:03:36
accomplish If you prepare yourself
and you invest time and work into it,
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01:03:45
people sometimes say, I want to do this.
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Okay.
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01:03:51
I know I want to do this, but they're
not willing to put in the work.
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Guess what?
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Nothing's going to happen.
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You got to put in the work.
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So that's my message.
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Have faith.
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In yourself, have faith in God
and just keep moving forward.
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Don't let fear overtake your faith.
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Chris P. Reed: I definitely
want to thank you.
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01:04:20
And, uh, I'm sure on behalf
of the audience, thank you for
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01:04:23
being emblematic of confidence,
coordination, and collaboration.
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01:04:27
Because the one thing that you said
over and over again was it wasn't just
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01:04:32
you, you reached out and you accepted.
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01:04:34
Assistance and you were embracing
the community and you were
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01:04:38
embracing partnerships and it's
not just one person doing it all.
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01:04:43
And you were able to leverage that
by making sure that you tied in with
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the right folks and you coordinated
your thoughts and make sure you
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understood where you guys were headed.
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01:04:51
And that's the greatest lesson
in all of this, and that actually
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promotes the culture, right?
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So that confidence, that coordination,
that collaboration promotes the
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culture and we appreciate you.
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01:05:01
Thank you so much for
sharing the story with us.
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I'm sure many people learned a lot.
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I know I did.
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I know Tony did, and I'm sure
our audience would as well.
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So.
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We just want to make sure that we thank
you specifically in that way as we
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move, uh, to the end of our episode.
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: Thank you.
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You know, I, I, I tell people all
the time, um, I can be a tyrant
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because my belief, if you're
going to do anything, do it well.
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I don't do it at all.
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And I don't accept excuses.
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I don't accept, uh, mediocrity.
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And so I was telling somebody
yesterday, you either not, uh,
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01:05:44
learn to love me or hate me.
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01:05:48
But that's okay.
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I'm comfortable with either one of those.
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Right,
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01:05:52
Tony Tidbit: right.
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01:05:53
Valeria Howard Cunningham: Because
if you're not going to perform
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01:05:55
at the level you need to perform,
you don't need to be on my team.
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01:06:01
Tony Tidbit: Well, thank you.
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01:06:02
Well, listen, sounds like my mother.
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01:06:05
Because that's how my
mother brought us up.
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01:06:08
So I love it.
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01:06:09
That's the only thing we know.
946
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But more importantly, to
Chris's point, thank you.
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Um, and you stay right here because you're
going to help us with our call to action.
948
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01:06:18
So I think it's now
time for Tony's tidbit.
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So the tidbit is always based
on what we talked about today.
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So today's tidbit is in the rodeo of
life Strength and determination are not
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01:06:31
just the spurs that drive us forward,
but also showcase the power of a
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01:06:37
visionary woman leading the charge in
a traditionally male dominated arena.
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01:06:43
Commitment to lifting
others up along the way.
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And that's what we heard today
about Valeria Cunningham.
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And Bill Pickett rodeo invitation.
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01:06:56
So we want to thank her for coming on
and sharing that power, that strength,
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01:07:01
that determination, and that faith.
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Before
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Chris P. Reed: we get out of here,
we want to make sure that we remind
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01:07:08
all of you to tune in to our weekly
segment, Need to Know With Nsenga.
961
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01:07:13
This is a segment where Dr.
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:
01:07:14
Nsenga Burton gives the Black Exegetic
Perspective podcast, a timely and
963
:
01:07:19
crucial Overview of topics that
mean a lot to our culture, to the
964
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01:07:24
world, and to society as a whole.
965
:
01:07:26
So make sure you don't forget to
tune in each week to hear what she
966
:
01:07:29
has to say because it's powerful,
it's passionate, and it's poignant.
967
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01:07:32
So make sure that you don't miss
that because you will regret it.
968
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01:07:36
Tony Tidbit: Absolutely, absolutely,
definitely check her out.
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01:07:39
And I hope you enjoyed today's episode.
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Leading the charge, Black
women transforming rodeo.
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01:07:45
Chris P. Reed: And then at this point
in time, as we do, we'd like to invite
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you all to embrace and incorporate
our call to action, which is LESS.
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01:07:54
L E S S.
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01:07:55
And the L stands for learn.
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01:07:57
Educate yourself on racial
and cultural nuances.
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01:08:01
And expand your horizons and
expose yourself to things
977
:
01:08:04
that could make you grow.
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:
01:08:06
As Ms.
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01:08:06
Valeria talked about growth is
the goal in order to hand that
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01:08:10
off to the next generation.
981
:
01:08:11
Tony Tidbit: Absolutely.
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01:08:12
And listen, our goal is to decrease
all forms of discrimination.
983
:
01:08:17
So this is why less is important.
984
:
01:08:19
So after you learn.
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01:08:21
Now, the E stands for empathy.
986
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01:08:23
Now, you should be more empathetic
to your friends and colleagues
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:
01:08:28
because now you understand what
they've been going through.
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:
01:08:32
Valeria Howard Cunningham: And then
if I could say, the S is for sharing.
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01:08:38
Share your insights to enlighten others.
990
:
01:08:43
I think I talked about that today.
991
:
01:08:46
And our obligation to lift people
up, enlighten them and help them.
992
:
01:08:51
So share, always share your insights.
993
:
01:08:56
Tony Tidbit: Absolutely.
994
:
01:08:57
Thank you, Valeria.
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:
01:08:58
And the final S stands for stop.
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01:09:01
We want to actively stop
discrimination as it walks in our path.
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:
01:09:06
So if grandpa says something at the
Thanksgiving table that's inappropriate,
998
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01:09:11
you say grandpa, we don't believe in that.
999
:
01:09:14
And you stop it right there.
:
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So if everyone can incorporate
less L E S S we'll build a more
:
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fair and understanding world.
:
1002
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And we'll all be able to see
the change that we want to see
:
1003
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because less will become more.
:
1004
01:09:34,069 --> 01:09:36,270
Chris P. Reed: Want to make sure
that you guys continue to tune in,
:
1005
01:09:36,300 --> 01:09:39,490
but more importantly, make sure you
go to the website, sign up for the
:
1006
01:09:39,490 --> 01:09:44,000
newsletter, leave us reviews, give us
comments, give us, you know, your take
:
1007
01:09:44,020 --> 01:09:47,200
on things that we should be speaking
on that we may not be aware of.
:
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01:09:47,654 --> 01:09:50,415
Make sure that you give feedback on
things that you have heard because
:
1009
01:09:50,524 --> 01:09:51,865
all of this stuff is expansive.
:
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01:09:52,325 --> 01:09:54,434
It's so many meat on, it's
so much meat on the bone.
:
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01:09:54,445 --> 01:09:55,505
Even for what Ms.
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Valeria told us today,
this, you know, can't all be
:
1013
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encompassed into just an hour.
:
1014
01:09:59,535 --> 01:10:02,095
So make sure that you give us
that feedback so we know where
:
1015
01:10:02,095 --> 01:10:03,975
to guide this in the future.
:
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01:10:04,315 --> 01:10:05,735
And Tony, where can they reach us?
:
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Tony Tidbit: Follow us on our socials,
LinkedIn X, Twitter, excuse me, LinkedIn
:
1018
01:10:10,030 --> 01:10:16,790
X, YouTube, Facebook, and Instagram at
A Black Exec for our fabuLus, beautiful
:
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01:10:17,350 --> 01:10:23,280
guest, Valeria Cunningham, president owner
of the Bill Pickett Invitational Rodeo.
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We thank her for coming on
and sharing her perspective.
:
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For my co host with the most
crispy read, I'm Tony tidbit.
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We talked about it.
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We'd love you.
:
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And guess what?
:
1025
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We're out
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BEP Narrator: a black
executive perspective.