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and actionable steps on how to claim
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If you're a woman desiring to live
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modern world, then this is for you.
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Welcome to Everbe.
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mari-_3_05-27-2026_092050: Welcome
back to the Everbe podcast.
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This is your host Mari, and
today it's just gonna be me to…
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I don't even know what I'm saying.
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Okay, hold on.
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Give me a second.
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What am I saying?
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Welcome back to the Everbe podcast.
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This is your host, Mari Wagner,
and today it's just gonna be me.
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I'm excited to spend some
time with you guys today.
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It's gonna be, I think, kind
of a short and sweet episode.
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I wanna share just something that's
been on my heart, in my prayer, that
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is already bra- bearing a lot of fruit,
um, and might be helpful to you guys.
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And then gonna give a little
update on the podcast and what
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it's gonna look like this summer.
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Um, 'cause we're gonna do a little
shift this summer, so I'm just gonna
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give you a little bit of a roadmap of
what to expect for the next few months.
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But first, I'm kicking it off with
my Everbe moment for the I got the
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opportunity to go on one of the
Sisters of Life silent retreats.
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They do, um, these different women
retreats throughout the year.
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I think it's maybe twice a year.
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I think they have one in the
fall and then one in the spring.
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They might have more than that,
but when it comes to, like, the
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women's silent retreat that I did,
I think they have those two options.
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And I signed up for their spring
one, so this past Memorial Day
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weekend, I was able to go on retreat
with them, and it was so beautiful.
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And I don't know about you guys,
but this happens to me all the
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time, where, like, the days leading
up to a retreat, for some reason I
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just, like, don't wanna go anymore.
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And I had been excited about this retreat
for months, but the days leading up were
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just kind of stressful, and I was just
like, "I have too much on my to-do list.
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Like, there's no way I can
just leave for a whole weekend.
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I have to do my to-do list.
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Like, I'm gonna come…
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If I miss out on that to-do list,
I'm gonna, like, come back even
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more stressed than before," right?
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Which, like, those are the lies the enemy
tries to tell us before we go on retreat.
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Because what do we know about the Lord?
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When we give him our time, he
gives it back in abundance.
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He gives it back twofold, hundredfold.
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So yeah, I was trying to convince myself,
"If I go give time to the Lord this
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weekend, I'm not gonna feel rested.
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I'm gonna feel more stressed,"
which is, like, absolute bogus.
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So, um, luckily Trey was
like, "You should go.
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Like, it's okay.
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I think you'll, I think
you'll feel better if you go."
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But he was like, "If you
really, really are so stressed,
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like, you don't have to go."
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And so he was like, "Why don't you just,
like, take some time to pray about it?"
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This is a crazy thing that happened.
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So Wednesday night, Thursday,
I was, like, pretty convinced,
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and like, "I'm not gonna go.
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Like, I shouldn't go.
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I have too much to do."
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Um, we just have a lot of stuff left
to do for the adoption, and we're gonna
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be going live here in about five weeks,
and so time's really ticking, right?
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And so I'm, like, super hyper-focused on
that, but I draw myself a bubble bath, and
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I go to pray a rosary with the Hallow app.
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And I pray, and then after it's over,
I just, like, say a prayer literally
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out loud, and I was like, "Lord, if you
really want me to go on this retreat,
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like, you have to be very clear with me.
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I hope I wake up tomorrow morning
knowing very clearly whether it is
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your will that I go or not, because in
the end, I just wanna do your will."
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And then I just kind of was
scrolling through the Hallow app to
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see what else they have on there.
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I usually use it to pray the rosary
or the daily readings with Jeff Cavins
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and Jonathan Roumie, and every now and
then for some other random thing, but
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that's what I use it for consistently.
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And I was just wanting to explore
what else they have on there, and
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they have literally so much on there.
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And so I was looking through podcasts
'cause I was, like, wanting to find
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new Catholic podcasts to listen to.
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I haven't listened to a Catholic
podcast in a long time, and I saw
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the Sisters of Life have one, which
maybe everybody already knew this,
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but I didn't really know this.
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The Sisters of Life have a podcast.
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Um, I think it's called Let Live, and
I was like, "Well, this is fitting.
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Let me just click on, you know,
one of their episodes and just
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rest here in my bath and, you
know, see what they're all about."
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Like, this wasn't the most recent episode.
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It was a random episode from
Lent, um, about your thoughts,
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like the power of your thoughts.
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And so I clicked on it, and within the
first f- five to maybe 10 minutes, Sister
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Mary Grace is on there, and she's like,
"By the way, one of my favorite parts of
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our ministries is our silent retreats.
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Um, if you ever get the chance to go on
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it's so important to spend a weekend away,
you know, letting our thoughts, um, you
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know, we're engaging with our thoughts
and really letting the silence in."
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And I was just like, "Are you kidding me?"
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How does that happen?
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Like- That was a very quickly answered
prayer, and that was nothing but
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clarity, which was what I had asked for.
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I was like, "Lord, I need
clarity by tomorrow morning."
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And he was like, "Give
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And then he gave me that podcast episode.
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And again, like, the, the episode
title had said nothing about
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retreats, nothing about silence.
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It was from months ago.
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It was a random episode from months
ago, and literally within the first
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10 minutes, Sister Mary Grace was
like, "I love our silent retreats.
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You should absolutely go if you
have the chance to go on one."
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Um, so I was like, "Yep.
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Well, guess I'm going."
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Um, and I went, and it was so beautiful.
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Like, so glad I went.
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Absolutely what I needed in the
midst of just a busy time and a
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stressful time where we have a lot
of deadlines coming up with all the
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different projects we're working on.
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Um, and my to-do list could wait because
I did come back so much more rested,
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and it was not, like, necessarily a
physical rest, 'cause I don't sleep
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that great, like, away from home.
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So, like, you know, it's
just, like, retreat vibes.
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Like, I didn't sleep super great, and
the food was, like, you know, all right.
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So it's not like I was, like,
physically super rested.
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But, like, spiritually and emotionally
and mentally, yeah, like, there was a
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restoration that just came from being
away and being in the presence of
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Jesus for extended amounts of time.
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I mean, I spent like hours in adoration,
and the silence was so rejuvenating.
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And you were able to have
a, like, spiritual direction
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meeting with a sister as well.
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So I went on a walk with Sister Jordan
Rose, and we just chatted, and it
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was just so beautiful to have her…
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I mean, the Sisters of Life, like,
I've been calling them like the
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real-life Disney princesses, right?
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They're just the gentlest souls, the most
joyful souls, the sweetest souls, and
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they encounter you and truly just see you.
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It's like they see you with so much love.
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And so sharing my life with
this sister was just, like,
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the most healing thing ever.
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Um, and they sang, and it
was, like, so beautiful.
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And the venue was gorgeous.
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It was nestled in the
mountains in Colorado.
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And so I don't know if any of y'all
saw my Instagram story when I shared
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about it, but it was, like, gorgeous
snow-capped mountains i- as the view
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behind the window of the chapel.
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Like, what?
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Gorgeous.
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So that was definitely my Everbe moment
and my reminder to you, go on retreat.
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Like, you need it.
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Like, I need it.
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You need it.
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Oh, Bodhi's rolling around.
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I bet you can hear him
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Go on retreat.
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Like, you need it.
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I needed it.
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Bodie, stop it
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We all need to go on retreat, and what
I have noticed is that as an adult, you
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do those kind of things less and less.
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Because when you're growing up, when
you're a kid, when you're in high
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school, when you're in college, it's
like those things are just offered for
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youth, like in youth group environments.
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There'll be some sort of retreat
or some sort of conference, right?
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Like the Steubenville conferences or in
college, there's different retreats that
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your ministry might put on, your Newman
Center might put on, or there's SEEK.
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Like, there's all these different
offerings for Us as we grow up, um, in our
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faith life, and then we get to adulthood,
and then you have to go seek it.
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Like, there's not always just a Newman
Center right there that's offering
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you a bunch of events and retreats,
and there's not a youth group.
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And if you're lucky, I mean, maybe
you're a part of a great parish that
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does offer these things, or you are
a part of a women's group or a Bible
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study that makes these invitations.
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And even if you are, my encouragement
to you is say yes to the invitations
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because I think even for me, like, it's
easy for me to sit in the pews and hear
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something being offered at the parish
and just being like, "That's nice.
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It doesn't apply to me," right?
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But, like, no, it does.
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Like, take the invitation.
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Go on these retreats or go seek them out.
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I realized I had not been on a retreat in,
like, years, and it's really good, healthy
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practice to go on a retreat once a year.
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And it doesn't have to
be a big, long thing.
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It doesn't even have to be expensive,
or you don't even have to travel
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for it if you're not able to.
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But, like, even just taking at least one
full day of silence a year for yourself.
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So, like, last year, I
didn't get to go on retreat.
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I've been wanting to go on
retreat for a couple years, and
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I just, like, I haven't done it.
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And last year, I, there was a whole
podcast episode about this last May,
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honestly, around this time, where I
went to an abbey, um, of, I believe,
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cloistered nuns close to where I live.
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And I went, and I just spent a
day of silence there by myself.
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I brought my own prayer things.
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I brought my paints and my canvas,
and I spent, like, eight hours there
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in adoration, walking the grounds,
praying, just being outside with the
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Lord, reading spiritual books, painting.
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Like, just taking a day
of retreat for myself.
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So at least if you could do one full day,
it would be so restorative, and the Lord
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will use it, and he will speak to you,
and he will meet you in that silence.
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Um, but if you're able to do
a weekend, definitely do it.
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Um, this is the encouragement I needed to
hear last week when I was doubting going.
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So if you have a retreat coming up and
you're doubting going, listen to me
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right now because you just keep going.
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You signed up.
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Go.
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It's gonna be worth it.
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It's gonna be good.
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Um, so yeah, that's my
encouragement for you today.
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That's my Everbe moment.
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And one thing that really came out of the
retreat, which I want to talk about today
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and share with you, is the theme of trust.
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I talk about this a lot, and we can
never talk about tiring, fully trusting
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in God and giving him our full surrender
and having great confidence in him when
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we do give him a surrender and our yes.
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I was, um, I picked back up the book
I Believe in Love, which is about St.
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Therese's spirituality, and she is
all about confidence in the Lord.
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She's all about confidence in Jesus.
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Um- And fully trusting him with anything
and everything in her littleness.
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And so that was really inspiring to
me, and one of the sisters recommended
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I pray with this, the Litany of Trust,
which I have always been a fan of, and I
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have not prayed it in a very long time.
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Again, probably a year, maybe a
couple years, I haven't picked it
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up because there was a time in my
life when I read it all the time,
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and then I was like, "I'm good.
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We trust now."
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And y'all know it's a journey.
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Like you, you know, like it's just
a cycle of like trusting and falling
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and trusting and falling, and our
humanity just like always takes over
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because we're not heavenly beings yet.
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So bummer for us, but I picked
back up the Litany of Trust, and I
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just wanna pray it with you today.
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So that's what we're gonna do.
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Like we're just gonna have
a moment of prayer today.
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I posted yesterday on my story a
little in case you needed this.
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If you, um, have noticed every now and
then I'll post, and I'm trying to do
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it more frequently, just these little
in case you needed these reminders.
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Um, and yesterday I posted, "In
case you needed this, you and
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your life has great purpose.
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God is writing your story
with intention and detail.
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He does not leave you abandoned.
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Everything He does and allows is
for a good and greater purpose,
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and His ways are higher than ours.
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Keep following Him."
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So if you haven't fully picked up on
this already, it's not always the case,
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but 9 out of 10 times when I post these
things, it's because it's what I needed
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to hear or what the Lord is speaking
to me that was like a great consolation
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to me and what I needed to hear in that
moment, and then I share it with you.
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And I got a lot of messages yesterday
of people saying, "Thank you so much.
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I needed this.
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Thank you for sharing this.
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It's so hard to trust.
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Like I know these things in my head,
but in my heart it's so hard to trust."
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And I relate to that.
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I've been there, and I know so many of you
as well feel that and struggle with that.
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So today we're gonna pray
the Litany of Trust together.
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Um, and I'm just gonna give
some random commentary that
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comes to me as we go through it.
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This is all very Holy Spirit led.
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This is not a pre-prepared episode.
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It's literally Wednesday, May 27th.
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This episode is coming
out later this afternoon.
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Like no planning went into this.
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It was just like the Holy Spirit put it
on my heart, so this is what we're doing.
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Um, so I hope it's good, but let's pray.
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Name of the Father,
Son, Holy Spirit, amen.
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Come, Holy Spirit.
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Come, Holy Spirit, teach us to pray.
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Lord, we just pray that you would
open our hearts right now to receive
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the words of the Litany of Trust
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To let them penetrate our heart, to let
them steep into our heart and take root
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in our heart, that these words would
take root and bear new life and new
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beliefs of truth and of trust in you
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Let's pray.
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From the belief that I have to
earn your love, deliver me, Jesus
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Sometimes we have this distorted
view of God That he gifts according
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to our performance, right?
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That his gifts are measured or
given in accordance to how well
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we've served him, or how well
we've followed his commandments,
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how good of a child we've been.
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That's simply not true, right?
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We wanna be delivered
of that false belief.
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We don't have to earn his love.
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It is freely given to us, simply given
to us because he loves us, period.
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So from the belief that I have to
earn your love, deliver me, Jesus.
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From the fear that I am
unlovable, deliver me, Jesus.
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How often do we look at ourselves and
hate what we see, or don't believe
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that we are worthy of someone else's
love, value, attention, um, care?
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And that's just us, like, sometimes we
have this, like, negative self-talk.
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I don't know about you, but there's
definitely times when I have this
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negative self-talk where I just,
like, beat myself up, right?
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We wanna be delivered from that.
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That is not of the Lord.
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From the fear that I am
unlovable, deliver me, Jesus.
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And I also wanna say here, I think the
Holy Spirit's bringing up, yeah, our sins.
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Like, sometimes we fall into thinking
our sins are what make us unlovable.
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We are so bad.
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We have … What we have done is so
wrong that the Lord could never love us.
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That is not true.
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Jesus' mercy envelops all of ours,
a- all of us, and all of ourselves of
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who we are, even, even the worst parts
of ourselves we don't want to see.
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And it's actually, like, who are we
to think that our sins are bigger
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than God's mercy and God's love?
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I promise you, he's more powerful, more
gracious, more loving, and more forgiving
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than anything you have done, right?
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Let that be your reminder.
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From the false security that I have
what it takes, deliver me, Jesus.
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Ooh, I needed to hear that one.
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Like, we think that we
have it all figured out.
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Sometimes we think that we have
the best plan, um, that if we
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just work hard enough, we'll
make things happen for ourselves.
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Especially right now, our culture is so
obsessed with manifestation and just,
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like, calling things into existence.
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Um, that's a false security.
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You don't have what it takes.
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You don't have the power, and you
don't have what it takes to take on the
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trials of this human life on your own.
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Sorry.
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It's really hard, and it's really
heavy, and the saints couldn't
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do it and, and we can't either.
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So from the false security that I
have what it takes, deliver me, Jesus.
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From the fear that trusting you will leave
me more destitute, deliver me, Jesus.
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This comes down to us believing Or
us not believing in God's goodness
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and a distrust in God's goodness.
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Because the fear here is that if I trust
you, I'm gonna be worse off, which means
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I don't trust that what you bring is good.
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So we have to go back to that foundational
core belief that God is a good and
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loving father, and He wants good things
for us, so that when we trust Him,
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when He asks us to trust Him, we can
trust without knowing what's coming
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because we know who it's coming from.
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We know His goodness, and
therefore we know that what
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comes, even if it's difficult,
there's goodness in- at its core.
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There's goodness in everything God does.
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From all suspicion of Your words
and promises, deliver me, Jesus.
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This is kind of on that same line, right?
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Like, us being suspicious of who Jesus is
or us reading His words and His promises
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in the Bible that, you know, are going to
give us life, that He's going to provide
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an abundance, that He hears us, that He
gives us the, um, words of eternal life,
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that He is, uh, the, the living water.
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Like, all, all of these promises
He makes, that He will restore
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us, that He will heal us, um, that
what we ask for, He will deliver.
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Like, from suspicion of those
things that the Lord has promised,
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we need to be delivered, right?
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And that's the evil one kind of, like,
planting seeds of doubt in our heart
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in who God is, and it goes with the
earlier one we were talking about.
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We need to believe in God's goodness,
and if that's what you're feeling,
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go back and pray, "Lord, allow
me to believe in Your goodness.
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Show me Your goodness," 'cause that's
where that suspicion comes from.
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From the rebellion against childlike
dependency on You, deliver me,
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Jesus Hmm, childlike dependency.
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What does that look like?
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What does it look like for a baby
or a two-year-old, you know, or a
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six-year-old to depend on their parents?
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You know, depending on their age, like
they literally can't feed themselves.
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They literally can't put themselves
to sleep a lot of the times.
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They literally need to be changed,
their diaper needs to be changed.
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They need to be rocked.
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They need to be soothed.
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They need to be provided
for at every moment.
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And what happens with a baby, a child,
when that secure attachment is formed
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and that understanding in their little
minds is formed, that when I cry
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out, my mother or father will come to
comfort me, that is that same dependence
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that we need to have on the Lord.
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We need to have that childlike dependency
that we know when we cry out, when we
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are hungry, when we are thirsty, when we
are tired, that He will provide for us.
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He will come running to us.
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Um, and sometimes we have that rebellion.
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Sometimes our soul wants to.
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It wants to depend fully.
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It wants to trust, and yet
there's that human part of us
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that's like, "You can't trust.
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You have to do it yourself."
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You know?
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Like, you have to have this like hesitancy
and keep things at arm's distance because
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there's no way the Lord could provide
for you like a child and like a father.
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Deliver me, Jesus, from that, please.
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Okay, moving on.
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From refusals and reluctances in
accepting Your will, deliver me, Jesus.
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Gosh, these are all hard, you guys.
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This is why this prayer is so good.
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These are hard things to do.
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How many times do we refuse or
are reluctant to God's will?
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Our life didn't look like what
we thought it would, and we
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refuse to accept His plan.
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I mean, I know that more than ever, right?
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Like, I expected to be
a mom five years ago.
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That was my plan.
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That was not God's plan And I hated
that plan for a really long time.
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I was reluctant, and I refused
that plan for a really long time.
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And I spent years trying to convince
him that my plan was better.
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And I know this goes for so many women
who are in the same place that I am
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or in a different place of waiting for
their vocation, waiting for the right
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man to come along, and being like, "Lord,
I thought I would be married by now.
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I thought I would at least be
engaged or have a boyfriend by now.
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I thought I would be in a
relationship that was going somewhere.
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Like, that was my plan, and clearly
this isn't your will, and I hate that."
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Like, I- y- it's okay for
you to say that in prayer.
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Like, "Lord," like, "gosh, I
really am struggling with this.
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I really don't like this
plan that you have."
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Give that to Jesus.
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Give that to Jesus.
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And from the refusal and
reluctances in accepting your
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will, let us be delivered, Lord.
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Because in our human understanding,
we don't understand your ways.
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Your ways are higher than ours, and
your thoughts are higher than ours.
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And so it's hard for us to re-
to accept your will sometimes.
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But we need to know that
it is the best plan.
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It is the good plan that you have for us.
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Mm.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Next one.
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From anxiety about the
future, deliver me, Jesus
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Tell me you don't worry about the future.
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Yeah.
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So you need to hear this one.
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From anxiety about the
future, deliver me, Jesus.
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Because if we have wholehearted trust
in the Lord, we know He is good,
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we know what is coming is good for
us, we don't have to be anxious.
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Read Matthew 6.
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If this is you, if you're anxious
about the future, read Matthew
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chapter 6, the do not worry passage,
and go all the way through verse 33.
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From resentment or excessive preoccupation
with the past, deliver me, Jesus.
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Some of us struggle with worrying
about the future, and some of us
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struggle with being so preoccupied
about what happened in the past and
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not being able to let go of that past.
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That excessive preoccupation, right?
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That excessive, um, shame or
disgust with the past, right?
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Like, we just, like, hate what
we see in our past, in our life.
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Um, the Lord wants to deliver us
from that as well, because the
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Lord does not work in the past.
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He does not live in the future.
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He is in the present.
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He wants to call us into His
relationship in the present moment.
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He's taken care of the past, and He's
taken care of the future, and He just
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wants you to come to Him today with
today's problems, with today's emotions.
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Um, so surrender all of that to Him.
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If this is you, surrender all of that to
Him and pray this: "Deliver me, Jesus,
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from restless self-seeking in the
present moment, deliver me, Jesus.
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Okay, so for this one, um, I, I pulled
up Truthfully because I was having
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trouble kind of like articulating
like what does this really mean?
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And it's really beautiful what it says.
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Um, so let me just read it to you.
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Um-
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Notice where this line sits in the prayer.
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It's sandwiched between resentment or
excessive preoccupation with the past
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and disbelief in your love and presence.
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The placement is not accidental.
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The entire litany covers all
the dimensions of time, past,
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present, and future, which is
what we were just talking about.
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And it identifies a specific
spiritual trap embedded in each one.
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So restless means unsettled,
never at peace, right?
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Self-seeking means that the driving
force behind this restlessness is
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me, my preferences, my comfort,
my plans, my control, my pleasure.
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It is the opposite of what
Christ calls us to do.
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Whoever wishes to come after me must deny
himself, take up his cross, and follow me.
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So together they describe a person
who cannot receive the present
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moment as a gift from God because
they are too busy demanding that it
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be something other than what it is.
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It's like the dissatisfaction
with your present life, your
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present self, your present moment
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So the Lord here is asking us
to be detached from that, right?
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And to give him our trust in the present
moment, and that we are exactly where
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he wants us to be right now today.
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From disbelief in your love and
presence, deliver me, Jesus.
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Sometimes it's easy for us to
fall into the lies that we are
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abandoned, or that He is not with
us anymore, or that He has left us.
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And the Lord is always with us.
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He never abandons us.
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He never walks away, even when it
doesn't feel like He's close to us.
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There are definitely times where we
won't feel those fuzzy feelings or
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feel that real physical closeness.
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That doesn't mean He's not here, right?
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So from that disbelief that we
are loved and that He is present
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with us, deliver us, Jesus.
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From the fear of being asked to give
more than I have, deliver me, Jesus.
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Have you ever heard the phrase
where it says, "God gives each
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one of His, um, sons and daughters
exactly what they can handle"?
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And sometimes we go through
life's trials, and we are like,
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um, "I can't handle this, Jesus.
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Like, why did you give me this?
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Why did you think I could handle this?"
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From that disbelief of being asked to
give more than I have, deliver me, Jesus.
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The Lord asks us exactly what needs to
be asked of us to grow in holiness, to
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be drawn closer into His love, to be more
conformed to His cross, to know Him more
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intimately And sometimes we're scared
that we're gonna be asked for more than
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we're able to give, and that's not true.
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The Lord will always provide because
in the end it is Him giving through us.
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His grace is what allows us to give.
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From the belief that my life has no
meaning or worth, deliver me, Jesus
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This is the idea that we essentially
believe that, um, our existence
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is essentially pointless, right?
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I mean, this is hard.
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This is sad.
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Um, and, and yet I know people
genuinely struggle, right?
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And, and are falling into these
lies and these false beliefs, right?
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That their life has no meaning or
worth, um, that nothing they do
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matters, um, that the people around
them would be better without them,
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that their suffering has no purpose.
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Um, all of these are lies that the evil
one tries to feed us, um, so that we
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would lose that trust in our identity,
that we would lose that core, ownership
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of our identity as sons and daughters.
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If we are beloved sons and daughters,
these, these lies aren't true.
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They can't be true because our
identity is much too valuable, right?
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Um, so yeah, from that belief
that my life has no meaning
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or worth, deliver me, Jesus.
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From the fear of what love
demands, deliver me, Jesus.
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I love this line because our faith
teaches us that love isn't easy.
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Love isn't like a happy,
necessarily, like, easy, lovey-dovey,
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butterfly-feelings thing, right?
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Love isn't doing sweet things for
someone when you feel like doing them.
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That is definitely a way to show love,
but the truest form of love is willing the
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good of the other, and willing the good of
the other sometimes demands things of us.
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It stretches us.
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It, um, causes us to sacrifice
and maybe do things we don't like
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to do or that aren't easy to do.
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Um, and so love demands a lot, and we
see this in everyday ways in marriage,
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um, in motherhood and fatherhood.
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Um, the demands of a child are
not easy things, and to do that
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over and over and over again all
day, every day, that's not easy.
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Um, marriage demands a lot of you.
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It demands sacrifice.
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It demands that you kind of shed a
selfishness, um, that we've had throughout
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our single years, not in a bad way, but
just because we've never had to worry
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about anyone else rather than ourselves.
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So love demands a But the Lord will give
us the grace to rise to the occasion.
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From discouragement, deliver me, Jesus.
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Um, I think this is a
sure sign of desolation.
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Like, if you are just constantly
discouraged, um, and just, like,
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see no way out, see no light at
the end of the tunnel and just feel
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hopeless, um, that is a sure sign you
need to get your butt in the chapel.
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Uh, maybe go to confession.
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Um, receive the Eucharist
more often, right?
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Just kind of feed your soul
those supernatural graces that we
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receive, um, from the sacraments,
um, to restore that hope and that
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trust and that belief in the Lord.
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Now, the next section switches
to Jesus, I trust in you.
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mari-_5_05-27-2026_112628: for
these, I don't think we need
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to dissect every single one.
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We just need to hear what is being
said, hear that truth, and really
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let it, um, take root in our hearts.
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Um, so let's just pray that together.
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That you are continually holding
me, sustaining me, loving me.
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Jesus, I trust in you.
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That your love goes deeper than my
sins and failings and transforms me.
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Jesus, I trust in you.
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That not knowing what tomorrow brings
is an invitation to lean on you.
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Jesus, I trust in you.
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That you are with me in my suffering.
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Jesus, I trust in you.
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That my suffering, united to your own,
will bear fruit in this life and the next.
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Jesus, I trust in you.
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That you will not leave me orphan,
that you are present in your church.
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Jesus, I trust in you.
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That your plan is better
than anything else.
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Jesus, I trust in you.
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That you always hear me, and in
your goodness, always respond to me.
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Jesus, I trust in you.
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That you give me the grace to accept
forgiveness and to forgive others.
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Jesus, I trust in you.
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That you give me all the strength
I need for what is asked.
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Jesus, I trust in you.
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That my life is a gift.
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Jesus, I trust in you.
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That you will teach me to trust you.
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Jesus, I trust in you.
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That you are my Lord and my God.
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Jesus, I trust in you.
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That I am your beloved one.
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Jesus, I trust in you
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Lord, I just pray that everybody listening
to this, um, would let these words pierce
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their hearts and give them encouragement
and life, um, in whatever it is that
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they're going through, that they would
be able to trust you with your grace.
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Amen.
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In the name of the Father,
Son, and Holy Spirit.
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Amen.
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Well, I hope that was a good time of
prayer and reflection for you guys.
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It's been so beautiful for me to be
praying with the Litany of Trust lately.
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Um, so I hope that
blesses your prayer life.
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Now, before we wrap up, just gonna give
you a little update on the podcast and
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what it's gonna look like this summer.
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So last summer, we took
a bit of a summer break.
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This year we're gonna kinda
take a break, but kinda not.
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So there will still be episodes going out
every Wednesday, but they're going to be
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our most popular, most listened to reruns.
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So no new content, unless I randomly
get on here and record a podcast,
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um, will be going out this summer.
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It'll be reruns of our top listened to
content, um, and most popular content.
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I highly recommend you still listen
to them even if you've heard them,
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because sometimes the message that we
heard at one point needs to be heard
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again years later or months later,
like the Litany of Trust, right?
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Like, I put it away for a while,
and then I picked it back up
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again and I was like, "Wow, it's
wrecking my life in the best way."
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So, um, be just on the lookout for which
episodes are coming back and enjoy them.
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Um, and then in the fall, we'll come back
with our regularly scheduled content.
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Um, and for all you who made it to
the end of this podcast episode,
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I'll give you just a little sneak
peek of something coming soon.
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So at the end of the year, so when we come
back in the fall, fall and winter, um,
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I'm gonna be announcing some new things
that are gonna happen with the podcast.
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Not going to tell you much now.
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Some exciting changes that are happening,
um, but what I'll let you know is
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that there will be a hint next week.
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So whatever episode is coming out
next week will give you a hint as
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to what's coming in the future.
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Um, so I'll leave you with that, and I
hope you guys have an incredible summer.
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Um, I'm gonna be focusing a ton on our
adoption work, and we'll start seeing
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cases this summer in July, and depending
on how quickly things happen, who knows,
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maybe we'll have a baby by the time we
come back in the fall, um, or winter.
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So please pray for us.
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I'm gonna be praying for
each and every one of you.
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Know that you can also reach out to
me on my Instagram, @mari.c.wagner.
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I check my DMs as often as possible and
try to get to as many messages as I can.
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So if you need anything, find
me over there, but I'll be
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praying so much for you guys.
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Please pray for us and this whole process.
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Um, and we'll see you in the fall.
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Bye.