There's a particular exhaustion that comes from living half-invested in your own life, when you're saying yes to everyone else's timeline while your own dreams accumulate dust. This week, we're pulling up a chair to the table we've been setting for five years, laying out every strategic detail, hard-won insight, and unfiltered observation about what it actually takes to build a life that doesn't require you to choose between future goals and presence, checking boxes and your nervous system, momentum and moments.

Thea, Meg, Audrey, and Lana convene to kick off 2026 with the kind of conversation that feels less like a podcast episode and more like the group chat you've been craving. No disclaimers. No hedging. No apologizing for wanting it all. Just four women who've spent half a decade living the methodology for sustainable achievement, discussing every single strategy, planning framework, and operational principle they've tested alongside 1,300+ women.

Please note: this isn't a teaser for what's inside the membership. This is the full playbook with nearly 50 pages of distilled wisdom, and the core methodology that's transformed businesses, marriages, and the daily operations of women who refuse to settle for good enough. Because if five years has taught us anything, it's this: the answer isn't hustling harder or culling your dreams. You need better infrastructure, and you definitely need a village. We start again here.

Listen In For…

1. Why five years of experimentation has led to giving away the entire methodology for free and what that signals about the conversation we're ready to have in 2026.
2. The antidote to "you can have everything, but not at the same time": compounding instead of choosing, cultivating practices instead of burning out.
3. What actually changes when you stop treating your ambition like something to apologize for and start treating it like the data it is.
4. Why isolation and withdrawal are the default response to exhaustion, and how intentional connection becomes the counterintuitive path forward.
5. Why we're done with the shame narratives and ready for nuanced conversations that honor complexity when it comes to entrepreneurship, motherhood, family, and ambition.
6. The art of finding your people, developing friendships that feel like infrastructure, and surrounding yourself with women who elevate rather than diminish.
7. Why overcomplication is a defense mechanism and how embracing practices creates the ease that allows you to do more with less friction.
8. The shift from performative planning to operational excellence.
9. How to quit overthinking and start iterating: taking imperfect action to generate the information you need to refine your approach.
10. What "nutrient-dense life" actually means: high quality, deeply satisfying, strategically designed to nourish.

TL;DR (Minute by Minute)

1. 00:00 Five years of Cowgirls Over Coffee and 1,300+ women later, here's what we've learned.
2. 04:45 The full methodology drop: 40 pages of our methodology free.
3. 08:30 Why we're done censoring and disclaiming because we're over the exhaustion of apologizing for wanting more.
4. 12:15 The shame and judgment around ambition.
5. 16:00 Strategic planning as the antidote to overwhelm: practices, routines, and the compound effect.
6. 20:45 Finding your people and creating infrastructure through connection.
7. 25:30 What makes Cowgirls Over Coffee different is that it's not about the resources, it's about the conversations.
8. 30:00 The year of observation and what 2025 taught us about social media, sustainability, and showing up authentically.
9. 34:20 Compounding versus choosing, and why you don't have to sacrifice one area of life for another.

Where to Go From Here

1. Your turn: Screenshot this episode, tag our host Thea @thea.does.all.the.things on Instagram, and tell us what landed. Are you ready to be a villager? Embrace the system? Stop apologizing? We want to hear all about it.
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4. Build your village: If you're tired of doing it alone, start here. Listen, engage, and be a villager first.
5. Thea Larsen: @thea.does.all.the.things
6. Audrey Hall: @audreyetta
7. Meg Scales: @meg.scales
8. Lana Wilkes: @small.town.preachers.wife

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Well, happy New Year to one and all.

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Happy New.

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All right.

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That's the energy I'm talking about.

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That's what I'm needing.

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Oh gosh.

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Um, welcome to the Cowgirls

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Um, every new year I'm

like, this is the year.

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I'm like, this is it.

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This is the year that's gonna deliver.

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And I am really excited because

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will, I will blame myself.

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This wasn't like a team thing.

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I was just having like this moment

of like, where, where do we go?

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Because everything was

feeling a little like wonky.

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Not crazy about everything I'm

seeing on social media, which

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is like a big admission for the

champion of all things social media.

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And so, um, we're back.

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We have a plan and I'm so excited.

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So I brought everybody here.

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We have Meg and Lana and Audrey

and me, so I know like, yeah, so

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enjoy, like this is like literally

like, this isn't like sitting down

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at the room, like this is like in.

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Like this is everybody.

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So I hope that you really

enjoyed this conversation.

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Um, as we're rolling this out and

talking about like what you can look

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forward to, Cal with us at Cowgirls

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this tag at Cowgirls Over Coffee.

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The links to everybody and

everything I talk about are gonna

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be right there in the show notes.

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So like, don't hesitate and you

can always like DM cowgirls over

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coffee and like, that's probably the

quickest way to get through to us.

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But I just wanted to say that at the top,

at the top of our conversation today.

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But, um, Jesse, you guys.

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Thanks for being here with, thanks

for like, do you guys realize five

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years of cowgirls over coffee?

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Audrey: it's a

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Lana: amazing.

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Yeah, it

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Thea: Right?

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Meg: the moment sitting on my front

step talking to you about this.

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I

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Thea: Isn't that bananas?

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And I was like, I know the sun.

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Of course this thing, right?

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This sun was shining, but

now it's like January.

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Actually I'm really vibing

on January this year.

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I, I've been like a re like.

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I found love in January.

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I don't know, I think it

started last year with January.

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I know.

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I just like am loving January even

though the sun, like the sun is shining.

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You said that and I was like, it's like a

different brighter sun than like, 'cause

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I'm pretty sure that was like summertime

when we were, or like late spring

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anyways, so five years, hundreds of women.

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You guys, I looked back and I think

it's like over the course, obviously,

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like with people coming in and out of

a membership, how it's been, you know,

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set up in the past is like something

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Come through and utilize

the resources and things.

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I know, I'm really excited.

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So I guess I will just start by

saying, um, the whole point of

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cowgirls over coffee when I started

this was, um, I was just so tired

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of having so many conversations of

so many people struggling, right?

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Like of women struggling because we

have so much on our plate and I was

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tired of the guilt and exhaustion

and shame that came along with like,

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I just want something more, right?

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I know I'm capable of this and

I know like I'm worthy of this.

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together and have these conversations

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because y'all, this has bugged the

crap outta me all through, like the

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last year, no one's talking about x.

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I'm like, are you kidding me?

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I have been screaming about this.

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I'm like, I am, I am losing my

voice from talking about this,

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um, everywhere to everyone.

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membership of Cowgirl over Coffee and I

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mean, I created so many, gosh, you guys,

so many workbooks, so many worksheets, so

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many conversations, so many live calls.

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We have experimented with small group

accountability groups, like we've done

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all the experimenting and I have like,

there's just all of this information

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and as you're listening to this podcast,

you're probably like, I have no idea

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what happens inside the membership.

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Lana: out to the.

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girls that were awesome and stuck through

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Thea: Right.

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We

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Lana: I'm just thinking of some of

those names, like, Ugh, rockstar

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Thea: I know they are the absolute best.

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I know.

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Meg: life, and I'm like five

years in on these relationships.

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I'm like,

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Lana: Yes,

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Thea: I know.

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that's the whole thing.

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So anyways, I'm looking at all this

stuff and I was like, okay, it's never,

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and there's so many resources, you guys,

and over the course of this, because I

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am a strategy girly, like I just love.

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And you guys are like, everyone

on the team is kind of like this.

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Like how can we optimize,

how do we be efficient?

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How am I leveraging my time, my energy,

my attention, and um, which is fab.

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But really it's about

the connection, right?

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Like what you guys were just saying.

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And so we are going to be dropping, and

you can grab this in the show notes, um,

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there's like, it's like 40 or 50 pages.

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I did a full, like, I wrote

an entire ebook of all of the

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methodology, like everything.

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Every single planning practice routine

concept, all of the IP is together in

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one document is totally free because I

want this to be our starting point for

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our conversation as we step into 2026

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Meg: Happy

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Lana: That's gonna be so.

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Thea: Happy New Year.

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So the Cowgirls Over Coffee gift

to you is literally everything that

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we have refined over five years.

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As far as like being, we know

it works like it's solid gold.

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Lana: Mm-hmm.

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Thea: and you, like, I'm always putting

like, testimonials on the website or

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whatever for the membership, but like

it's, it's been tested across the board.

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Like this is what works.

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Lana: my life for

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Lana: Seriously.

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Thea: But like also, it's

not about that, right?

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Like it's about the conversations, it's

about the accountability, it's about the

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advice, it's about the feedback loop.

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It's about the sitting down and like

developing these deep connections where

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we truly know each other because it's

so easy to withdraw and isolate when

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we're in these places of exhaustion.

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Everyone's like, you either have to

choose, and I feel like I'm so sick of

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this and I want someone else to talk about

this besides me, but I'm so sick of this.

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Like, oh, um, there's so

much judgment and shame.

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You either need to, you're dreaming too

big, you want too much, you can have

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everything, but not at the same time.

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Like I'm just, and like some of us

that makes our skin crawl, right?

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Like, um.

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So I, yeah, it just makes my skin crawl.

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And then the other side of it is

like, oh, well you just need to

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hustle harder and you have to give up.

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Like there's that big bro energy

that's like, you're gonna have to,

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like, maybe you're not going to eat

or maybe you're not gonna sleep.

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And you know, like sleep is, you can sleep

when you're dead or what any, and I'm

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like, no, that's complete horse pucky.

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Like that is absolutely.

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Those are false choices.

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That is a completely false

binary and I hate it.

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And so I know what keeps, what keeps

the things running is the connection and

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the conversation and opening yourself

up and being honest and being vulnerable

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and showing up and being a good friend.

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Lana: But

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in that irritation, you're motivated.

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You know, and I, I sometimes you use

that to motivate yourself, and maybe

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that's like where some of you are at too.

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Thea: Yeah.

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Meg: And we're entering that season right

now where we could so easily fall prey and

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be victims to like these big emotional,

um, stories that people like to tell us

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to try to sell their products, right?

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So this like whole binary

of do it or don't do it.

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When in reality, like the magic

is in the mundane, like in the

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Lana: Yes.

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and being human and being authentic

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and naming what's important to you.

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And I think that's exactly what

cover rolls over Coffee does.

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I'm super excited about this workbook

being available to people so you don't

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have to like jump off the deep end and

with the bro energy or the housewife

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energy or whatever it is, you know, it's

like being sold right now is so yuck.

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Thea: Well, and it's so much like

being, I feel like it's so important to.

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just not gonna lower my bar.

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And that's cool if you like, if you

don't want to, I always use the analogy

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of like, if you want to go to the

Olympics, if you wanna be an Olympic

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level, elite level at whatever it is

in your life, like not everyone wants

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to climb Mount Everest, but if you do,

you're gonna have to commit to training.

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don't like, it's hard work, but it

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doesn't have to feel hard, right?

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Like you don't have to go into it

like, I'm gonna sacrifice everything

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to climb the top of Everest.

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You don't have to do that.

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Like you can create things in

a way that are sustainable.

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And that's why like the cadence

of the seasons that we use, where

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we're like, okay, we're gonna.

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momentum and mo and motivation and

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moving forward and moving the needle.

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language to take a step back, but

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now we're gonna shift our focus.

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How do I fill my cup?

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where the conversation comes in.

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these things, it's like, okay, yeah.

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And we can all be at different

places, but like that doesn't

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mean we have to slow down.

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And it also doesn't mean we

have to sacrifice or compromise.

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And I'm just like, I'm here

for if you want it all.

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Like, it's absolutely possible.

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like crap doing it.

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But like we're probably gonna have

to work really hard at some things.

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a lot about like what that baseline was

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and I was reading something and I can't

remember where it was, but it was like if

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you slip below your baseline, it's gonna

take a heroic effort to get back up to the

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baseline if you can hold your baseline.

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as much to get over it.

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places and like everything's gonna

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change and everything's shifting.

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It's not like you figure one thing

out and then it's fixed forever.

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And so it's like really cultivating

yourself as someone who is elite and

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agile to address things where it's like,

okay, I really need to like my nervous

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system's outta whack, so now I'm gonna

have to do this, or my business needs to

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hit a goal, so now I'm gonna focus here.

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so I'm not stressing because.

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that we're struggling with is 'cause

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we're not willing to do the boring crap.

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like do all the research to do it

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though, like, you know what I mean?

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at reels about like how to get your

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life together, but don't actually.

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together, like there's no progress made.

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we are as a culture.

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information on like what to do that we're

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not actually like getting the work done.

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And I like, that's why I love this

community and just this particular

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group of women because it shifts our

focus from like just being consumers

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of information to actually doing.

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What we know we're called to do and

yeah, I mean, it's so good, so good.

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Audrey: Yeah.

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Lana: but.

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Audrey: why I think the, oh.

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Meg: ahead,

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Audrey: Okay.

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Now it's probably not as, it's prob Well,

I, that's where I think the conversations

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really come into play because like you

guys are mentioning, we're consuming

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all of this information and then saving

it in our folders on our Instagram.

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Lana: Right.

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community, almost like.

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Thea: Workshop and girlfriends who are

headed towards a similar trajectory,

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even if everybody's on green,

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Like whatever our goal is,

be the height of that goal.

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Everyone's kind of in different

places, but we're having these

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Audrey: each

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of implemented, hey, here's, I'm

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that's where like the bro energy

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what that's called, but um,

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whatever.

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Audrey: shrug just like

whatever happens, happens.

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you've been in the bro energy, you're

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like, the rest sounds really nice.

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Lana: Yeah.

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Audrey: you hear that and you're

like, oh, actually that sounds great.

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And then you kind of go, go into that

space and you're like, wait a second, I

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Lana: I call it the pendulum

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but like what about the

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medium?

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Audrey: right.

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brings you back to that center point that

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towards having all of it

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Thea: quickly, like this compound,

like the little here and there.

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Honestly, for me, that's like

the workbooks and stuff helps me

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change my trajectory though because

like I am, everything's so much.

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actually writing and like processing.

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And that's why like those books

have been so helpful for me.

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'cause then it, like I can

get out of my own head.

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It's not just like.

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So like for me, those workbooks that you

made, Thea just like helped me to like

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know what to the next step needed to be.

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And then also just having

your conversations where

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we can just move forward.

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Uh, I don't know, it just, it just

changes your mind set, I guess.

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Meg: I had a really interesting

conversation the other day.

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came at a really timely time.

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Maybe a just gonna open

the can of worms, girls.

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Thea: Do it.

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That's my favorite.

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Meg: My, so I had a, I've been

struggling a little bit with work,

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like in a positive way and that

I wanna be an Olympic athlete.

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We're going through like

a lot of change right now.

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Um, there's a lot of like, pressure

on me to accomplish this really big,

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like, very existential, project.

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And I was talking to one of my

colleagues who's like, I don't,

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he's, he's an incredible friend

too, and he was just like.

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Let's talk through this, Meg, like what

are, where and how are you getting stuck?

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So I'm like explaining this

to him and he's like, girl,

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you're trying to boil the ocean.

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Like you're trying to boil the ocean in

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Lana: Yeah.

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Meg: for the the Olympics.

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And he is like, you need to

break it down and just do one

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simple thing that creates this.

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Small win and think about breaking

these into incremental steps.

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And all I could think about BIA was

just like you chirping in my ear,

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and I do this all the time with work.

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It's just like think about,

okay, how do I break this down

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into more manageable steps?

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How do I see these substeps?

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How do I think about like,

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Lana: Okay.

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Meg: the sequence and the small

wins so that I can gain momentum

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and frankly, how do I build

accountability around myself with the

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people that care about me and wanna

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Meg: And so it was just like, I don't

know, it was just kind of this aha

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moment where I'm like taking this, um.

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Very like technical strange

problem in applying it, uh, to the

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cowgirls over coffee methodology.

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And I just, I think

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Lana: Yeah, like real life.

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Meg: yeah, it was just like.

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Lana: Yeah.

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Meg: Don't, don't boil the ocean.

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Megan, I was texting with one of

my friends last night about it.

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Um, she and I are like

totally wired the same way.

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I have a feeling many of you

listening to this are probably wired

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Audrey: Probably are.

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Meg: Um, and she's like,

man, I didn't even realize I

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needed to hear that right now.

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Audrey: Mm-hmm.

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Meg: boiling the ocean.

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Like I gotta step back and like start

to think about these small things that I

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can do that, that aggregate and compound.

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Back to

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Meg: Audrey, like

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Audrey: Mm-hmm.

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Meg: to have real, real

impact and outcomes.

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I'm excited for those folks that may

be feeling that same way this, this,

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these workbooks and methodologies

that the had just mentioned that

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are gonna be available to you.

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Like you can dive in and start to

like, get back to those basics.

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Uh, embrace that kind of like

mundane, I say that with all the

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love in my heart so that you can

start to see progress at my Everest.

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Audrey: Mm-hmm.

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Thea: A hundred percent.

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And I think that's too, where I'm

like, I'm just like, I'm low key,

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sick of the lack of progress.

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Like I'm, I'm, I mean, not even low

key, like I am sick of hearing, I'm

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just sick of hearing the same problem.

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And so that's where I wanna

step in like in a big way with

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cowgirls over coffee for you.

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Um.

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In this year and in, gosh, I hope

in another five, 10 years too.

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It's like I'm done.

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I'm done hearing the frustration, like

I'm tired of hearing the frustration and

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all of the information is out there and

it's kind of like, I think I like to, um.

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Use losing weight as an analogy,

because I think it's something

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that we're all familiar with.

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Like the basics are still the same.

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Like it's more movement

and less calories, right?

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Like that's it.

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The basics are same.

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And then finding whatever works

for you is the next piece.

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And so I am like done, like, okay.

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Here's everything that we know works.

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And I feel like the IP that we've created

around this, as far as like, you know,

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just the, like you said, Meg, it was like,

okay, here's the methodol methodology and

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how do we break down these steps and how

do we start and what works for everybody?

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So it's there.

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And now I'm done talking

Tacticals, like, I'm all like,

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I'm sick of talking tactical.

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Now let's get into inflammation.

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Implementation.

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Let's get into reflection.

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Let's get into iteration

because that's how we get there.

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Like if you want the ocean hot, like

if you want that ocean boiling, like

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we're done talking tactics, we're done.

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And a lot of times it's

stuff we don't wanna hear.

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Like, um, I know Audrey and I were

talking a few days ago or something,

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and it's like, I know you want,

like, you're like, I wanna hit six

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figures into my business, therefore

I need like a bomb marketing plan.

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No, you don't.

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You need to get to bed on time

and fold your laundry like,

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and we don't wanna hear that.

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Like we don't wanna hear that.

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And so that's where I wanna step in

with cowgirls over coffee is like.

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We are here to facilitate you

implementing and executing.

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And I want you to like, you don't

have to be in the membership.

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Like I want you, I have

accountability squad workbooks.

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I have methodologies like we

will, we will show you in real

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time how we talk to one another.

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You can make a couple of different

friend groups like, what are your goals?

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But I'm just not here for, and

your goal can be like, wow, my goal

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is to take a big step back like.

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I am shocked and I really think about

this as far as like new mothers, like

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just don't just take 18 months, like quote

unquote off because it's going to like

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you, it's you're gonna be so depleted and

like, that's one of the things I wish I

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would have thought about ahead of time and

like, and I think there's some core truths

449

and those are the conversations I wanna

have too, is like, I don't think that you

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can lose traction, you know what I mean?

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Like, can you lose a

little bit of traction?

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Yes.

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But like in the grand scheme of things.

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You are, it's not gonna set you back.

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You take 18 months off of whatever

to get your, your shit together.

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Like it's going to, you know, it's gonna

pay off exponentially in the future.

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And so I'm, I'm also down, I'm also

done, and this speaks to like my own

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like personal experiences, which is so

funny 'cause I feel like I've made this

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like whole 360 degree return to myself.

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And I still have plenty of

things to work on, like to get

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back up to where I wanna be.

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But I'm done lowering my

expectations for myself to make

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other people feel more comfortable.

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I'm done feeling

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Lana: Say it twice.

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Thea: and like, and I wanna give that

message to other people too, and I'm like.

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If you like.

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There is no judgment or shame coming

towards from me towards anyone else, but

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like, this is what I want from me and

these are the women I wanna be around.

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And I mean, I know every single one

of my friends, we are always reaching

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back up to pull the next person, right?

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Like we're always reaching back

to pull the next person up.

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I don't know any of us, like,

we're always like bringing

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new, new ladies into the fold.

475

And I'm so here for that, but like I'm

just not gonna apologize for it anymore.

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And I don't know if you

need to hear that too.

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It's like there are girls out there,

um, there are women out there.

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I still refer to everybody as, as girls.

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I don't know why I am like,

everything is like girls.

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I know this.

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I know right.

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It's like, I'm gonna be 65 and

I'm gonna like, alright girls.

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Um, but I'm just like, you might

need to hear it because I'm just

484

tired of this rhetoric around and

I'm here for like simplifying, but

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I wanna simplify strategically so

I can move further, faster, more.

486

And um, and I always think.

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Because I'm such a stickler for like

communication and vocabulary and things

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like, I just, like, I want the, I

feel like too often when we're saying

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bigger, better, more, higher, faster,

like it sounds, um, a little empty.

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But I mean, I'm talking

like nutrient dense.

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Life like that is, that is

what I want and I want it all.

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I want to, I wanna be healthy.

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I wanna feel fit and strong in my body.

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I always said like, I'm gonna live

to be 120 years old and I'm not

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gonna be like on a respirator, like

I'm just gonna drop dead out there,

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fall off the back of the horse and

it'd be like, oh, there goes granny.

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Guess it was her time.

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Jesus came for her.

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Like she, 'cause she got called home.

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But I want that.

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I want money.

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I want wealth, like

actual monetary wealth.

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I'm not getting into the Instagram

meme of like, oh, what is wealth?

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No, I want money because I want

my kids to have opportunities.

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I don't want them to struggle.

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I wanna help, like there's so many

things in the world that I wanna change.

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I am tired of not sleeping at night.

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'cause I'm like worried about

kids in foster care or like

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neglect or whatever, like, and.

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Quite frankly, that's

how we change things.

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And I really truly believe, like my

mission with Cowgirls Over Coffee is

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to bring the level of friendship that

I have in my personal life because

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I am blessed to have the most, like

you guys, I send voice notes back

514

and forth and I'm like, like, we're

just like riffing all the time.

515

And it doesn't matter that I live

in the middle of nowhere, like.

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And that was something that was

really hard for me when I first

517

moved out here because my life was

so, um, like high touch, right?

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I was CEO, I was in the middle.

519

When you work in an events industry, like

you are kind of the person that everybody

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knows, and I know you guys have all been

there too, like where you were, you were

521

quote unquote an important person, right?

522

Like that identity piece.

523

And when I came out here, I'm like, I

can bring all my friendships with me.

524

I can bring my friendships and these

level of conversations and this

525

level of execution and expectations

into ranching, into motherhood,

526

into health, into everything.

527

And so.

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Like one of the things I really want to

call out today, and I think because I

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am such a little d Lulu, welcome to the

January 1st, new year, new me energy.

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Like I am here for that and

I'm done apologizing for it.

531

And that's who I want in this community.

532

And I will, I will cheer for you.

533

I will give you every resource.

534

I will hope you find your people.

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I cannot be your best friend.

536

Like I can personally, like there is a

capacity to which like we can be friends.

537

Like that's just like.

538

Science, right?

539

Like, look it up.

540

You can Google too.

541

Um, but, uh, we will give you everything

you need and we will model for you.

542

Like I, I, I hope when you listen to this

podcast every week, you're like, damn.

543

Yes.

544

Here

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Lana: Well, okay.

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Here's the one thing though.

547

'cause like, okay, we have.

548

I I have too many friends.

549

Like if scientifically

so, 'cause I love friends.

550

I, I love friends.

551

I love friends.

552

But here's the thing, I have so many

people being like, gosh, that's so

553

nice for you that you have friends.

554

If you want a friend, you

have to learn to be a friend.

555

So

556

if you're like, if you, yes, be a friend.

557

So like, if you're listening to this

and be like, wow, that's nice that those

558

girls can chit chat and have friends.

559

I wish I had that.

560

You can, you have to take

this first step though, like.

561

We're talking about community and

we're talking about how awesome it

562

is and like I know, I know there's

so many that just don't have that

563

and, but sorry, I'm not very nice.

564

But you gotta, you gotta be the friend.

565

You gotta be

566

the

567

Thea: and as you're listening

to this, call us out.

568

Be like, okay.

569

And I've gotten those dms so many times.

570

Okay, Theo, where are these people?

571

I will tell you, I'll be

like, okay, what do you

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Lana: next door.

573

Thea: it.

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yeah.

575

Lana: Get, get out there.

576

And they're not gonna be

perfect, but you know.

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Audrey: can I

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Lana: Like me,

579

Audrey: a.

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I, so I grew up in a

family of three girls.

581

So like we had built-in friends, right.

582

And I'm the second, and like, you know how

birth order, you have personality stuff.

583

And I've always had, I mean, I have

no personality quirks whatsoever.

584

Thea: You're so boring in vanilla.

585

Audrey: so vanilla.

586

So it's interesting 'cause I think

about this all the time, like,

587

and my sisters aren't even my best

friends love them to death, but

588

they're not even my best friends.

589

And I've always had, um, I've

always had, like, if we go back

590

through my friendship list, I don't

really know how we became friends.

591

It just kind of was

something that happened.

592

And I feel like most of those friends were

like, oh, Audrey, I wanna be your friend.

593

And then we end up being friends.

594

So it's super interesting.

595

And I had my first experience, so

this is, I know we're not doing

596

tactical anymore, but this is coming

from, sorry, is coming from Audrey,

597

who like doesn't, I'm not like,

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Thea: I dunno how I make friends.

599

Audrey: It just happens.

600

And then there are these like really,

really deep friendships, right?

601

Like I think, yeah.

602

Anyways, but I did make a new friend

in the last couple months on talk

603

Talk or, um, what's it called?

604

Thea: TikTok,

605

Audrey: Yeah.

606

So.

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Thea: one's showing their age here.

608

Audrey: Facebook.

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Um, so, so I

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Thea: Like she's

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Audrey: photographer

girl and she like, had a

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Thea: a thing and I comment.

613

I commented back a little bit

614

Audrey: and then we became

friends on social media and I

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Thea: and I was like.

616

Audrey: gonna be at the lazy E at

the all girl BFII will meet you then.

617

Like, this is, and, and then

you just kind of become friends.

618

But I think, I think this is

a really, really important

619

Thea: Um,

620

Audrey: Um, this whole be

a villager thing because.

621

Thea: again, like I'm in a, I'm

in a, where it's just Audrey.

622

Like I love

623

Lana: Mm-hmm.

624

Thea: husband, like, it's just Audrey.

625

And I

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Audrey: I am just

627

Thea: like, and it's different

because everyone has the

628

responsibilities like you have.

629

Audrey: and your kids and this and that.

630

But

631

Thea: But like, I would say this for my

632

Audrey: my girlfriends

633

Thea: like my really good girlfriends

amidst their lives, still have

634

space and or a friendship with me.

635

I'm just like so grateful

because they're like, award.

636

Audrey: is the

637

Thea: That's kind a girly

638

Lana: Yeah.

639

Yeah.

640

Audrey: it And,

641

Thea: and you do like,

642

Audrey: to,

643

Thea: this

644

Audrey: you have to.

645

Thea: is, and even if your words the same

646

Audrey: like here's the thing too

647

Thea: too that we have to

like the Olympic, right?

648

But then there's also like the ghost and

there's all, you know, there's also all

649

these different players in that person.

650

Audrey: life.

651

That's like going to the

652

Thea: To the Olympics.

653

And, um, I think about this when I was

654

Audrey: at a really high

655

Thea: humble, um, there was

this girl and she was competing

656

Audrey: an even higher

level than I was, and

657

Thea: and like her best friend was,

but was always there supporting,

658

cheering on, like, like, if anyone

659

Audrey: this, you can do

660

Thea: do this.

661

So I think that like,

662

Audrey: have to evaluate,

like you have to evaluate,

663

are

664

Thea: are you crazy space or.

665

Audrey: these friendships?

666

Are you

667

Thea: are you creating your community?

668

Because here's the thing,

the tactical stuff that is

669

necessary for us, for Jodi is,

670

Audrey: this

671

Thea: this is arbitrary.

672

Okay.

673

Yeah.

674

10, 10, 15%.

675

And where you're really gonna get that

growth, like your tactical stuff should

676

be able to implement, set and go set

it and let it like leave it alone.

677

And it's

678

Audrey: the

679

Thea: the growth I think.

680

Audrey: happens in the.

681

Nuanced conversations in the

considering, in the figuring

682

Thea: Like

683

Audrey: okay, I'm gonna do

684

Thea: this,

685

Audrey: and take those

686

Thea: those steps every day.

687

Compound.

688

Audrey: And I know this, like I

689

Thea: I know there's this

690

Audrey: effect of this tactical thing

691

Thea: compound, especially

women, I dunno, dunno about men.

692

We're not even yet touching that

693

Audrey: But like, especially as women,

these like conversations and friendships.

694

That are like moving the dial forward and

helping us expand our thought process and

695

helping us consider different things and

view different perspectives and hear you,

696

like, I can hear you say, I'm doing X, Y,

Z, and I can, from the outside perspective

697

be like, huh, that kind of works.

698

That kind of doesn't work.

699

But because it's not in.

700

I can't figure it out for myself,

but I can figure it out for

701

Thea: Yeah.

702

Lana: Right.

703

Yeah.

704

Audrey: think I, I think, and just

probably took this on a little

705

bit of a tangent, but I just

wanna hit home like, you do have

706

to show up in these friendships.

707

And don't have to be a voice

708

Thea: Memo.

709

Audrey: I mean, we all are.

710

We love our voice

711

Thea: I do.

712

I've, I'm a late, I'm a late

into the voice memo game.

713

But yeah,

714

Audrey: love it.

715

But you have to do

something like figure you

716

Thea: you have to do something.

717

You have to.

718

Audrey: like, so consider this

like your tactical, your burnout is

719

because your tactical, the space,

the spaces you're, you're creating or

720

the

721

Thea: The space that you are to

722

Audrey: your tactical

execution stuff exceeds what

723

Thea: what?

724

Audrey: needs to be.

725

Because you need,

726

Thea: You need

727

Audrey: need the

728

Thea: the community girlfriends.

729

You need these conversations.

730

We're gonna have so many, we're gonna

have so many episodes about this because

731

like the, that's been like really

on my heart too, as we're like, you

732

know, as I'm like, okay, community,

friendship, but I don't know, Meg, can

733

you imagine just meeting someone randomly?

734

Like on Twitter and making them your

best friend in the whole wide world.

735

Like, that's insane.

736

A little bit of lore.

737

Just, I, I know we've touched on

this, but like maybe you're just

738

tuning in for the first time.

739

Like, Meg and I met, I

740

I was the CE of the United Way.

741

I think you were like, you were doing

like CSU stuff still, like you were,

742

Meg: still at school.

743

Thea: you were still at school.

744

Meg: I hadn't even, neither

of us had met or now husbands.

745

Thea: No.

746

And it's so funny because this is like,

you cannot divide, you cannot argue

747

that God doesn't have a plan and uh,

the sense of humor because like I, I

748

met Meg on Twitter 'cause you were at

Cowgirl Barbie and I was, and I was.

749

At this cowgirl life and we like,

we totally like what you're talking

750

about on the talk talk there, Audrey.

751

Um, yeah, the talk, talk.

752

We like bonded.

753

The next thing you know, I'm

like, Hey, let's make a magazine.

754

And you're like, heck yeah.

755

And then I'm like flying out to.

756

To Denver from New Mexico.

757

And I'm like, just gonna say

like everything our, our parents

758

told us about the internet.

759

They're like, don't talk to Stranger.

760

I'm like, I'm randomly flying.

761

And then Meg couldn't pick me

up, so she said, TR to pick.

762

I'm like, I dunno, some man's speaking,

some random man who makes that just

763

picking me up at the, at the airport.

764

But I mean, you've

gotta be willing, right?

765

Like and that's what I.

766

Audrey: it's like, Hey,

how do we, how do we know?

767

How do you guys know each other?

768

Oh, we go to the same

769

internet.

770

Thea: I know.

771

I love it.

772

Yeah, we're on the same internet.

773

What do you think, Meg?

774

You've been contemplative.

775

Meg: No, I'm just like sitting here

laughing, thinking about friends

776

because my husband is like, definitely.

777

he struggles to make

friends like many men do.

778

Um, and we live very rural, so like

the pool for friendship is limited.

779

Although, I will say he has

made a lot more friends in the

780

last year, and I'm proud of him.

781

But he gets su super jealous of me

and like pokes fun at me because

782

he's like, you literally make friends

with like your Uber driver, the

783

checkout lady at the grocery store.

784

The other, no, the other day.

785

This one was really good.

786

The other day, I'm like, we're driving

to town, and I'm like, there's a flag,

787

like a construction and there's a

flag girl at the construction center.

788

I'm like, Hey, I know her.

789

I'm friends with her on Facebook.

790

I bought a chicken incubator from her.

791

Audrey: That's so good.

792

Meg: a divorce.

793

She's super nice.

794

She lives in Sheridan and my

husband just like looks at me.

795

He's just like, what?

796

But

797

Thea: I know.

798

Meg: it is about like putting

yourself out there and like finding

799

like commonalities with people.

800

I don't, I just like love giving

love and creating space for people to

801

Thea: Yes.

802

Meg: up as themselves.

803

And when you just like do

that, cool things happen.

804

Audrey: Yeah.

805

Meg: so many friends on the

internet, I love, I love that.

806

Um, and you don't have to be like

the person that sends voice modes.

807

You could be the person sends memes or

808

Audrey: yes.

809

Meg: like, you know, um.

810

I have a lot of friends like I have.

811

Okay, I've got one friendship.

812

Might even be listening to this podcast

Right now she has four kids under four.

813

She just had a set of twins.

814

She lives in the middle of nowhere,

like literally, she and her

815

husband have like three businesses.

816

Like she is the epitome of

what should be burnout out.

817

She doesn't like.

818

I get so excited when I even just get

like a meme or a text message from her.

819

'cause she doesn't have

two hands right now.

820

Like

821

Thea: Yeah.

822

Meg: got four kids on her all the time.

823

And every once in a while I'll just

send her like a little heart emoji

824

and like I expect, or like I say, hand

squeeze, like I expect nothing from

825

Audrey: Yes.

826

Meg: And like I know she would do the

same and that she's thinking of me like,

827

I got this like beautiful snapshot of her,

like her twins in the sunset last night.

828

She was just thinking of

me and she sent it to me.

829

You know, like I'm tearing

up just even thinking about

830

Thea: I know, right?

831

Meg: it's just like about that

reciprocity in, in that village and

832

just like finding a way to just show,

give a little bit of your heart and

833

a little bit of love to somebody.

834

Lana: Well, and I'm like on the back,

I'm on the other side of that too.

835

'cause like, uh, my.

836

I baby just turned one, but in so many

ways, like I was the Olympic athlete

837

and then I took the bench, right?

838

Like, and

839

that's, I mean, and I

840

Thea: so hard.

841

Lana: yes, it is hard and

it's not necessarily like.

842

Like you're saying, like

backing totally out of it.

843

It's just switching focuses.

844

Right.

845

I'm switching my focus to like motherhood

right now because that's all I can handle.

846

But I will say there comes a point, like

I'm a year into this with an infant,

847

but there comes a point where you

have to like stick your head back out.

848

Right?

849

Like, and Thea, you've been so good.

850

with with me.

851

And that too, of being like, Hey,

you're gonna be on this podcast today.

852

And I'm like, okay.

853

You know?

854

Audrey: Yeah.

855

Lana: So, because like, I think

for so many of us women that like

856

have, maybe you're, you've been

at that place where you're like,

857

I am just trying to tread water.

858

It's really hard to realize you

can now move forward because

859

you, you're just so stuck.

860

You're so stuck in like where you've

been that it's hard to move forward

861

because you're just like in the

routine of just like being stuck.

862

So like,

863

Audrey: Yeah.

864

Thea: it's a momentum thing, right?

865

And like there's a lot of things

that can put you on the bench, right?

866

Yeah.

867

And like, this is also where I wanna

say, like, this is where I feel

868

like I'm such a good warning and

not a good example because like,

869

I push, I push through regardless.

870

Like I just keep pushing

through and um, I know right?

871

And I love that.

872

I have, I love how it works and how, like

I have all these people, like you guys

873

in my life that are like, yeah, same.

874

I get it.

875

Um, regardless of the flavor, right?

876

Like it's a, it's still an ice cream

shop, even if it's different flavors.

877

And I am like, which is

not a good thing, right?

878

It's not.

879

I've been doing a lot of reflecting

about things that I like.

880

It's a little death of the ego, right?

881

Where I'm like, oh, I'm so independent and

I'm so good at, I'm so tenacious, and I'm

882

like, is this, like I've said before, I

was like, I've never met anybody who like.

883

Was not independent and like really

couldn't do anything on their

884

own that was unhappy about it.

885

Like it's only like something that like

independent people like to be like,

886

you can't do anything by yourself.

887

Yeah.

888

They, they seem like they're thriving

and you're, you're not so much.

889

So maybe let's take a look at that.

890

But, um.

891

Yeah, there's so many things that

can put us on our bench and then

892

we tend to think it's forever.

893

And I think that's the hardest piece is be

like, instead of pushing, pushing, pushing

894

to get out of this, like sit on the damn

bench, just sit there and be like, okay.

895

Like, because I will tell you guys,

um, not too long ago, 'cause this

896

has been like honestly in 2025.

897

I, I took a step back for OB observation.

898

Like I really started just

observing without, it's kind of

899

like active listening in my life.

900

I was actively observing, whereas

previously I was like listening to

901

see what I would say next, right?

902

Like I had, I shifted my gears

in my life to be like, okay.

903

I am, I'm, I'm actively observing,

like, not to say, to see what I'm

904

gonna do next or how I can do better or

where the efficiencies are, but like,

905

I'm just observing and it really made

me have the best year in that way.

906

And then I was like, when I was like

coming back online, I'm like, why

907

can I not step on the field like.

908

There's no reason I

can't step on the field.

909

Like there's no, like, it feels

like I can't step on the field.

910

And so I was like putting some things

into chat, GBT 'cause that's, I'm

911

like, okay, here's some things.

912

And it was like, oh, because you've

pushed through so many times.

913

And I mean, I've had plenty of challenges,

like everyone and I, and I even was like,

914

this sounds like I'm being dramatic.

915

And it's like, actually

your thinking you're being

916

dramatic is a trauma response.

917

Like, so just, just take

a moment and I'm like.

918

That's why I wanna say like sit down

on the bench and like have people, and

919

it's not like I haven't had people be

like, Thea, your nervous system is shot.

920

Like dude, I don't know how many

times Meg's been like, Hey, maybe,

921

maybe your nervous system is shot.

922

And it took me like putting

everything into chat GBT and being

923

like, oh, so turns out, and I was

laughing 'cause I was laughing.

924

I was, I know.

925

I was like, oh, they know

me really, really well.

926

And that's where it comes back to is like.

927

That's why I'm saying there's no shame

or judgment, like I can sit on the bench.

928

I can act actively, observe the game,

sit on the bench, and then step back in.

929

And like if I could just like, I don't

know, it's almost like, um, shifting

930

my brain to be, um, I don't know.

931

It's like a different place.

932

It's just a different, like

a different gear to be in.

933

Like it's just as important

and just as active.

934

And I never dropped my expectations.

935

But I'm, I'm doing it in a better way.

936

It's more efficient.

937

Like that's actually Olympic level,

way to go, not to push through.

938

Like that's how you injure yourself.

939

Right.

940

And I know I, I'm like the

queen of metaphors, but like,

941

I have been injuring myself.

942

Like I literally, you guys, when I

broke my foot and had to have that foot

943

surgery, which I feel like I talked about

so much, but I'm like, that's why I'm

944

so excited for 2026 because I'm like.

945

I have changed so much.

946

Like I just have so much better

and like, do I have, am I

947

anywhere near where I wanna be?

948

No.

949

But by my timeline, have like a

name there 80 or 90 years to go.

950

So we'll get there.

951

Lana: That.

952

I mean like just that idea though of.

953

Just being able to know yourself well

enough to know when it's time to sit

954

on the bench, when is it time to like

get back into the game or, or when

955

is it time to get the Olympic medal.

956

And I think that's what all, all of us

are at different parts in that right now.

957

And, but we can all speak

into each other's lives too

958

well, no matter where we're at, you

know, in the game, if you will, if

959

you wanna continue the metaphor.

960

But,

961

uh,

962

Thea: go ahead.

963

Lana: no,

964

Thea: I was like, I was like,

I was just like, I'm like what

965

Audrey said about the team.

966

I'm like, oh, that is so good.

967

Because you know what, like I'm tired

of this narrative of, oh, I just

968

like, I just need a simple life.

969

Like I wanna, I want the simple things,

but I want all the simple things.

970

Like I just want it with such ferocity

and like, even if I'm on the bench,

971

I'm on the dang team, like I am on the

team that's going to the Super Bowl.

972

Regardless.

973

Even if I'm not on the field this

season, I will be next season.

974

And I think if we have that mentality, and

I, I mean, I can't speak for people who

975

don't have that mentality because I don't,

976

Lana: of it is just

knowing not to give up.

977

I think we just give up when we get

to that point too, where it's like the

978

overwhelm is so overwhelming, right?

979

Like, and it's hard to know.

980

It's hard to know what to do next.

981

'cause you just feel like

there's too much to do, if

982

that makes sense.

983

Thea: I know.

984

Okay, you guys, we gotta wrap this

up and do some final thoughts here

985

because we all have lives we have to

get back to, but I'm so looking forward

986

to more of these conversations in this

coming year, and I, I hope you are too.

987

Again, please DM us,

screenshot this, tag us.

988

What is your takeaway?

989

I'm not saying that performatively either.

990

I mean it.

991

Slide into the dms, tag us.

992

Like take some action.

993

Like be like, yeah, I'm on board for this.

994

Like I'm ready to like take my

team to the Super Bowl or find my

995

team, or whatever it is, right?

996

Yeah.

997

First we're gonna have all the

conversations and if there's

998

conversations you wanna hear our take

on, and I'm gonna do my best not to.

999

I think we all can do this.

00:40:01,815 --> 00:40:05,325

Like I don't want to

censor or disclaim anymore.

00:40:05,415 --> 00:40:08,535

Like I really wanna come out and

like I'm okay with being wrong, like.

00:40:09,095 --> 00:40:11,675

The most beautiful thing I love is

like when I see something from a

00:40:11,675 --> 00:40:14,795

different per perspective and I realize

like I was incorrect about something.

00:40:14,795 --> 00:40:18,605

Like I think that's really fun, but like

final thoughts like Meg, final thoughts.

00:40:18,845 --> 00:40:19,715

Audrey Lana.

00:40:20,015 --> 00:40:23,404

We'll let Meg start 'cause she's got

so many, you have all the thoughts.

00:40:23,555 --> 00:40:26,855

That's what we have a whole a podcast

every week, every single week.

00:40:26,855 --> 00:40:29,195

But what do you, what do you guys

00:40:29,195 --> 00:40:32,075

Like what would be your like

current words of wisdom?

00:40:32,585 --> 00:40:34,295

Um, for those who are listening,

00:40:36,904 --> 00:40:37,535

silence.

00:40:38,155 --> 00:40:38,785

Audrey: I

00:40:38,905 --> 00:40:40,225

Thea: I think that

00:40:41,185 --> 00:40:42,265

Audrey: just pick

00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:42,940

Thea: pick the things

00:40:43,615 --> 00:40:45,565

Audrey: You need to compound

that, you know you are

00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:49,015

Thea: are gonna get to your

end goal and go make a friend.

00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:50,080

Go make a friends.

00:40:50,590 --> 00:40:51,220

Make a friends.

00:40:51,220 --> 00:40:52,145

Start building that team.

00:40:53,335 --> 00:40:53,815

Audrey: build the

00:40:53,975 --> 00:40:54,575

Thea: the team, right?

00:40:54,625 --> 00:40:55,295

Build the team.

00:40:56,075 --> 00:40:56,295

Yes.

00:40:57,470 --> 00:40:57,590

Meg: I

00:40:57,725 --> 00:40:57,995

Lana: Yep.

00:40:57,995 --> 00:40:58,350

That's great.

00:40:58,404 --> 00:41:00,475

Meg: myself like five years ago.

00:41:00,685 --> 00:41:03,445

If I was talking to like

five years ago, Meg, I

00:41:03,550 --> 00:41:03,770

Audrey: Mm.

00:41:04,105 --> 00:41:06,235

Meg: like, don't make it so complicated.

00:41:06,235 --> 00:41:06,955

Like you

00:41:07,030 --> 00:41:07,430

Audrey: come on.

00:41:08,185 --> 00:41:12,805

Meg: you're gonna go achieve like

incredible things, but you need to embrace

00:41:12,805 --> 00:41:16,195

the system and you need to surround

yourself with the right people so that

00:41:16,345 --> 00:41:16,635

Thea: Yeah.

00:41:16,884 --> 00:41:19,555

Meg: are an alone in this

journey in all the ways.

00:41:20,300 --> 00:41:21,860

Lana: And celebrate your little wins.

00:41:22,470 --> 00:41:23,340

Don't be so hard

00:41:23,340 --> 00:41:23,980

on yourself.

00:41:24,325 --> 00:41:24,955

You know,

00:41:25,435 --> 00:41:26,695

that's what I needed to hear.

00:41:26,770 --> 00:41:27,160

Thea: That's good.

00:41:28,165 --> 00:41:28,825

I love that.

00:41:29,185 --> 00:41:32,545

Every single one of those things,

and I, my, my advice would

00:41:32,545 --> 00:41:33,685

be like, quit overthinking.

00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:39,940

Like, just, just do, do so you can get

the information so that you can iterate.

00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,720

Like that's like the biggest

thing is I, and don't question

00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:45,580

and don't make yourself smaller.

00:41:45,580 --> 00:41:48,640

And I know I, I, as I say all

of this, I feel like it's all so

00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,040

meme worthy, but like you don't.

00:41:51,595 --> 00:41:55,645

If your team makes you feel like you

suck, then find a different team.

00:41:56,005 --> 00:41:56,485

You know?

00:41:56,485 --> 00:41:58,735

And like, I know that like some of

those things, like you may be like,

00:41:58,735 --> 00:41:59,935

well, I can't really, whatever.

00:41:59,935 --> 00:42:00,565

I don't care.

00:42:00,625 --> 00:42:03,955

Like, we're done making excuses,

we're done feeling shame, we're

00:42:03,955 --> 00:42:05,455

done with all of that stuff.

00:42:05,455 --> 00:42:08,065

It's just onward and upward, you know?

00:42:08,065 --> 00:42:11,125

And, and in the most sustainable,

thoughtful way you can be.

00:42:11,125 --> 00:42:14,125

Like, just, I, I want it to

be like, again, I want this

00:42:14,125 --> 00:42:15,805

super nutrient dense life.

00:42:15,805 --> 00:42:17,245

Like, I want to eat it all.

00:42:17,275 --> 00:42:17,845

Like I want.

00:42:18,115 --> 00:42:18,985

I want all of it.

00:42:19,525 --> 00:42:22,045

So I hope that, um, and we'll

like, we're here for you.

00:42:22,045 --> 00:42:25,465

Like this is, this is, if you

need a village, start here.

00:42:25,525 --> 00:42:27,055

Like, and you can just listen.

00:42:27,415 --> 00:42:27,654

Yeah.

00:42:27,685 --> 00:42:29,634

DM us or just listen to

the podcast every week.

00:42:29,634 --> 00:42:32,785

Like if you are gonna get, like, I

guarantee that there will be something

00:42:32,785 --> 00:42:36,025

or someone and, um, or get on the talk.

00:42:36,025 --> 00:42:37,375

Talk and, uh,

00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:38,920

Audrey: Talk and find new friends.

00:42:39,310 --> 00:42:39,710

Thea: a new friend.

00:42:40,915 --> 00:42:44,305

Thank you guys so much for taking

the time to have this conversation

00:42:44,305 --> 00:42:45,745

with me and kick off the new year.

00:42:46,015 --> 00:42:50,605

Um, and thank you for all of you for

being part of this like five year journey.

00:42:51,205 --> 00:42:52,525

Five years feels, yeah.

00:42:52,525 --> 00:42:55,645

When you think about like the

lifespan of like a, if you will

00:42:55,645 --> 00:42:57,305

say quote unquote online, you know.

00:42:58,870 --> 00:43:00,670

online endeavor of any sort.

00:43:00,670 --> 00:43:04,630

Like five years is pretty good, even

though I feel like I've been at this since

00:43:05,020 --> 00:43:09,130

the olden days with Meg with a back in.

00:43:09,220 --> 00:43:09,610

Wow.

00:43:09,610 --> 00:43:10,720

So long.

00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:13,810

I know All the things all, all the

things we've been involved with.

00:43:14,590 --> 00:43:15,310

Oh man.

00:43:15,340 --> 00:43:16,420

The good old Skype.

00:43:16,779 --> 00:43:17,440

Oh my.

00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,180

I know, right?

00:43:19,690 --> 00:43:21,009

So here for it.

00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,045

All right guys.

00:43:22,145 --> 00:43:23,285

Meg: Skype for hours.

00:43:23,950 --> 00:43:26,110

Thea: I know just like little

chat box in the bottom.

00:43:26,110 --> 00:43:28,810

Like as we were at work, at

our real jobs where we're like,

00:43:29,290 --> 00:43:30,490

Hey, I need feedback on this.

00:43:31,390 --> 00:43:32,140

Like, that's the other thing.

00:43:32,140 --> 00:43:34,210

We, we didn't even work together

and we were still working

00:43:34,210 --> 00:43:36,070

together on like shared projects.

00:43:36,070 --> 00:43:38,080

Like that's, that's a village, right?

00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:38,950

Like that's a team.

00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:40,120

I'm excited.

00:43:40,330 --> 00:43:40,840

All right guys.

00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:41,770

You are awesome.

00:43:42,655 --> 00:43:44,455

Everyone who's listening,

you're awesome too.

00:43:44,575 --> 00:43:46,255

Unless you're sitting there

listening just to hate.

00:43:46,255 --> 00:43:48,535

And if you are like, Hey,

thanks for being a fan.

00:43:49,135 --> 00:43:50,305

Like I'm down.

00:43:51,025 --> 00:43:55,585

Like I'm here for, I'm just like so

ready to, I'm so excited about this year

00:43:55,615 --> 00:43:59,245

'cause it just feels so good that year of

observation, which I didn't even realize

00:43:59,245 --> 00:44:02,725

till I was talking to you guys, which is

another reason to have more conversations.

00:44:02,785 --> 00:44:04,345

All right, we'll see you

guys back here next week.