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Nature's Whisper: Healing Through Horses and Heartfelt Stories
Episode 6625th December 2025 • Accepting Your Sensitivity • Aline C Davis
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This beautiful and soulful conversation unfolds under the tree of love, where I connect with the remarkable Ylwa, a dedicated horse sanctuary carer in Sweden, an executive contributor at Brainz magazine, a coach and an incredibly beautiful soul.

Our discussion dives deep into the themes of healing, sensitivity, and the profound bond we share with our beloved animal guides.

We reflect on the challenges and transformations of the past year, recognizing how these experiences have shaped our understanding of love and loss. Ilva shares her journey of healing through horses, illustrating how these sentient beings have helped her navigate her own pain and trauma. Together, we explore the importance of embracing our emotions, allowing ourselves to grieve, and honoring the connections we have with those who have crossed over to the Rainbow Bridge. Join us for this heartfelt exploration of love, loss, and the healing power of nature.

The herd spoke and told us to share as soon as possible, exactly how it is. So here we are sharing on Christmas Day.

Wishing you much love and a beautiful Yule. Thank you as ever to all my guides on all planes.

Aline

You can find out more about Ylwa and her beautiful work in the world here.

https://www.instagram.com/svenskahastakademin?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==

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Aline:

Hello, gorgeous. And a warm welcome to accepting. I'm Aline, your host.

And in this very special episode, we're outside under the tree of love with the beautiful Ilva, who has the most incredible horse sanctuary in Sweden and so much more. She's the most beautiful person, wonderful horse whisperer and she's kindly. Come on.

Today we're both in nature to feel into our sensitivity, beautiful sentient being, sensitivity and living in this world. So grab yourself a cup of tea, get yourself cozy. Let's dive in.

Ylwa:

Good morning, Aline

Aline:

Good morning. Hi, gorgeous.

Ylwa:

Hi.

Aline:

See, it's so. Yeah, that's gorgeous. It's so beautiful to see you, my lovely.

Ylwa:

Yes. So beautiful to see you too.

Aline:

I might cry.

Ylwa:

Yeah, I'm gonna cry as well.

Aline:

So how are you, beautiful?

Ylwa:

Right now I'm feeling really good actually. But it's been a tough year, a challenging year of many reasons, but I'm extremely grateful for it because it's through challenges we grow. Right.

So here I am, prepared for:

Aline:

Yay. We've all done some shedding, haven't we? With the wood snake.

Ylwa:

Yes. Yes. A lot.

Aline:

Yeah. And. And the. And the year nine as well. Of the final. The nine. We've all been in a cycle of nine as. As the world. Yeah. We've all experienced so much.

So can you tell me a little bit about. You have a beautiful sanctuary for horses. Yeah. Can you talk to me a little bit how that transpired?

Ylwa:

Actually, it started with my own healing I have been through. I have survived a relationship with a psychopath and it marked me for life. So it has taken me a very long time to recover from it.

And the horses was a big part of the journey for me. And most of all my genial, my 29 year old Arabian horse who is still with me today.

He was the one who brought me back to life afterward actually, because with him I took one breath at a time. And through my own healing, me and my husband Mats started to get interested of why people always talking about problem horses.

And with the background and everything, I've learned that the problem always has a root cause. And the problem we see is the symptom of the root cause.

So I guess I healed by pinpointing the root cause so maybe we could do the same with the horses. So we started to take care of horses that no one else wanted because they were called dangerous problem horses, all kinds of horses.

And they got a home here of a life home. And we signed an agreement with them, a spiritual agreement. When they came to us that this is your final home.

You're never going to move from here because often with problem horses they, they go from another home to another home to another home.

Aline:

So it's a very wondering what's happening next. That's exactly why I am.

Ylwa:

Yeah. I also get very emotional talking about it still. So that's where it started.

will, we bought this farm in:

It's in a place where people have lived since the year 700, I think, and we have a lot of, you know, astronomical phenomena as aurora borealis and starry nights. And it's, it's so beautiful. So a perfect place for healing.

Aline:

So, so it sounds absolutely incredible. I mean, I've seen, I've seen videos. I, I am coming to visit you.

Ylwa:

Yes, you have to.

Aline:

And it's just when, when you share so beautifully about everything that's happened there and you're, you're sharing the aura Borealis and you, I, I, you can just feel, feel that energy through your videos. It's so gorgeous. And this, the, the episodes for Green December. And thank you so much for coming on.

Is dedicated to all our fur babies and our four legged, beautiful, sentient beings who chose to come and be with us and have their life experience, who now love us from the Rainbow Bridge. And I know.

Ylwa:

Yes, it's very emotional this. Yeah, yeah.

Aline:

And I know you've experienced.

Ylwa:

Yes.

Aline:

This, this year as well. We don't have to talk about it.

I would just like to acknowledge you and thank you for coming on to be in this energy because I really feel, I've been doing a lot of work recently because my beautiful girl passed in September.

Ylwa:

Yes, I know.

Aline:

Not long after your beautiful boy passed.

Ylwa:

Yes.

Aline:

And I really feel I'm here and you are here to help people turn grief into understanding. And I don't know if this resonates at all with you because I don't know what else has happened for you this year.

This year has been very interesting for a lot of people.

And I feel as empaths and as sensitives, we're so used to kind of cocooning and looking after everybody else that when it comes to something happening personally for ourselves, we don't necessarily share that because we don't want to be a burden to somebody else.

And I was told very, very strongly when Cleo passed, there was a poem that I'd written that I couldn't, I was trying to read it out loud to my other beautiful fur babies. And I couldn't get through it. And I was told to go online. I was like, are you effing joking?

Ylwa:

Want me to go online?

Aline:

And I did. And it wasn't the reason that I did. It wasn't, oh, look at me. I'm grieving. It was.

I really hope that this is going to help somebody, even just one person. Just by me being able to express what's happening through poetry. Because that's how I work.

Ylwa:

Yeah.

Aline:

And for people to know it's okay. Because so many people say, not so many people. A lot of people think, oh, it's just an animal. We're all animals. We're all sentient beings.

I just wonder what your thoughts are on that, what your feelings are on that.

Ylwa:

I really get chills when you told me about Cleo saying to you that you should go online because this is exactly the same message Barco gave me.

Aline:

Oh, wow.

Ylwa:

And I have struggled so much to take place in my life and to get my voice heard. So I've worked a lot with this.

This year started also start writing, but writing articles about my own trauma healing and how we have helped both the horses and ourselves and people who are visiting us. So I've experienced.

I didn't know what I was thinking when starting the horse sanctuary because of course, the horses will come to that age they are going to leave their physical body. And I was so terrified of dying. I have been all of my life. I've been really, really terrified of dying.

So the first horse two years ago now we've had one horse each year. The last three years passed away. I was really working with myself to be able to be with her until the end.

Aline:

Yes.

Ylwa:

And her name was Ecstasia and she was Genial's daughter. So she was very special. And she was very ill in her body when she arrived here. So it was like kind of guilt feeling that we couldn't make her well.

But her body was so broke, so she had to go over the Rainbow Bridge. And I stood by her to. To her last breath. And her death was transformational.

It was very transformational for me because I took off her blanket and I hang it on the fence. And each evening for seven days, the blanket was on the ground. And I didn't think about it until day seven.

And afterwards it's kind of symbolic because we've learned that, you know, on the seventh day, God made the world and everything. And I put the blanket up and I just got a feeling. Okay. This is a sign from Ecstasia.

She was telling me something that she's still here, she's not gone, her soul lives on. And when I put that blanket up the seventh day, it's. It was, it stayed there on the fence. And I was so deeply grateful for that experience.

And I told her, now you're free to leave if you want to. So that was kind of the first experience.

And I got this knowledge that the body is just a vessel for our soul and it doesn't matter if you are a horse, a cat, a human, where, or all from the same source. And that really changed my view of dying.

Aline:

Wow.

Ylwa:

And yeah, that was the beginning. And all three horses has been extremely difficult because, you know, as with your beloved cat, they are family members.

So it really breaks your heart to say goodbye to them. But I'm so proud of myself that I've been able to be with them to the last breath.

Aline:

Yeah, that's so beautiful. And it resonates so much because actually a family member said to me as they all come to you, Aline, because we, we care for cats.

I mean, we have cats and we also care for cats. And I've been with, not just cats, I've been with other sentient beings who've come along and their last breaths. And I've just been with them.

And that includes, that includes dragonflies, crickets, praying manta, not, you know, they're all sentient beings. We're all sentient beings. And it's an honor and I would like, I'd like to thank you for sharing that so beautiful. Extacia. Is that correctly?

Ylwa:

Yes, yes, yes.

Aline:

My, my beautiful Cleo and I had a really beautiful conversation with, with another family member and she used to, she used to do. She used to, she used to volunteer for. Well, she did. She donated her time and her heart for Doberman Rescue and Rock Violet Welfare.

And it's really interesting how we can, we can almost feel like all these people have it so much together and they know exactly what to do in any given moment. And when I spoke to her about what happened with Cleo, because I was really listening to her, she was speaking to me.

And then the vet said to me, I don't like that. You need to get her to another vet. I'm not available at the moment.

Instead of just taking a breath and just being with her because we've been meditating all day, we've been doing beautiful healing work together, I, I jumped onto his fear, unfortunately, and took her to the vet. And I don't know. Shoulda, woulda, coulda.

I still don't know if she may have passed peacefully in my arms or she may have passed and been really upset in my arms. I was at the vet with her and it wasn't my vet. I didn't know anybody. And to make that decision with. I mean, I was there with her.

I. I knew it was coming. It's raining now. I knew it was coming. And you.

When I got back from us being in a family, a family trip for, from July, for three weeks, I had this pain going down my left shoulder, all the way down my left arm. I couldn't move. I couldn't move my arm properly for three weeks. And it was almost as if my body was preparing for the heartache.

And I feel it was really important if, for anybody listening to this, if, you know, they have lost a loved one and they're doubting what they did. I had the most useful message the other day.

Your loved ones at the Rainbow Bridge are absolutely fine and they love you and they're in peace and, and they know you did everything that you could. Please stop feeling guilty. Guilty. Guilt is one of the most useless emotions. And it's kind of. I'm just gonna. I don't really talk about religion.

I'm not religious in, in that sense, I'm spiritual. It's used as a tool to control people. And I feel it's so important. If anybody has a heavy heart and they're feeling guilty or. Well, why didn't.

Maybe I should have way I've just explained, it couldn't have happened any other way. You know, it's. It's accepting that it happened that way. And, you know, I am talking about myself as well, accepting it happened that way.

I mean, the, the podcast is called Accepting and Allowing Ourselves. Once we accept that it happened that way, that's when the healing can start. You know, it's. That's when. And it's feeling into.

And it's allowing ourselves to have all those different emotions because we're gonna go through it and it's allowing ourselves, would you say, to open up when we feel like it and to keep it to ourselves when we feel like it without judgment. So we're not feeling guilty.

We're not judging ourselves that, oh, we should be feeling better by now, or, you know, we're just allowing ourselves because everyone's going to have a different way. Some, some people may have a, a delayed reaction. It doesn't hit them until three months later.

Or some people may be grief stricken a Family member told me they cried for a year after one of their fur babies. And I've cried every day since September.

Ylwa:

Yeah.

Aline:

You know, and it's, it's a release and it's not holding on. It's not kind of holding on to the grief. Because I was thinking, okay, solstice, wonderful.

So let's get the darkest night out the way and then we can record all the beautiful episodes honoring our fur babies and our four legged friends. And it will be a celebration. It will be. It's really raining, so, I mean, often nature speaks to us and it's just allowing ourselves.

Ylwa:

Would you say the allowance is really, really important?

Aline:

Yeah.

Ylwa:

To ride on the waves of feelings.

Aline:

Can you step back a bit? Lovely. Because I've got your eyes and your nose again.

Ylwa:

Is that okay?

Aline:

Yeah. I mean, it doesn't matter. It's going to go in and out anyway. It's beautiful. It's beautiful anyway. And it's not about perfection.

I'm wearing my snow leopard onesie.

Ylwa:

I love it.

Aline:

I want the onesie because I was thinking, oh, shall I get changes like. No, just be comfortable.

Ylwa:

Yeah, that's the most important.

Aline:

Yeah. And I love that it's raining. I'm not going to stop recording. It's beautiful that it's raining, actually, because raining.

We all know, we know about the elements that water is cleansing and healing. So it was almost as if. And I do. This is what I wanted to share with you.

So yesterday I shared the podcast for this week and I was told I'm going through my conscious cocooning process myself. And it was day 18. It was I am nurturing. And I was told to share that. And Cleo was with me when I recorded. Cleo was with me with everything.

Even if, even if I was in a different room, she was around, you know, she was with me with everything and everything that I'd experienced. She was with me for 17 years. So I went from. She was with me my whole life in Spain. When I moved to Spain, she was just about to turn one.

She just turned one. Sorry.

So what was so gorgeous yesterday was I was reminded, remember, to say that each of the episodes are honoring our beautiful loved ones watching us over the rainbow bridge. As I posted it outside, there was a double rainbow in the sky. Absolutely gorgeous.

So you talking about how the blanket was falling and how we're given signs. We are, aren't we? We're just shown that they're still with us.

Ylwa:

Yes. And it, it has grown that for each horse, each heartbreak. Stella was the second horse last year.

And she was extremely ill in her body the same way as Ecstasia. But Stella was different because she didn't want to leave. She had very hard time leaving.

So actually the herd contacted Muriel in Ireland and asked her to help Stella prepare for death. And this was huge because Muriel is. She isn't a horse woman, you know, and she messaged me and said, you heard is in my bedroom.

I don't know what they want. And at the same time, I looked outside the window and the herd, everyone in the herd except Stella, because she was lying down.

They was like standing beside her, focusing on the house. So I met their eyes when I looked out and they were like focusing. Okay, now you're realizing something. We want you to do something.

So that was also a really magical moment.

Aline:

But that's magical.

Ylwa:

Yes, it was really magical. So Muriel helped me prepare Stella. He healed her for about two weeks. And she also had a friend in, in the United States who helped out.

And I sat with Stella physically and talked to her. I gave her the date, she was going over the Rainbow Bridge and that I would. Would be her and everything. So we prepared her.

So when the day came, I held up the halter and I said, stella, now it's time. I'm going to be with you.

The vet is coming soon because the vet has came here each time and she freely put her head in the halter and we walked to the vet and then she left her body. So it was also really beautiful because during this time I was able to process all of this that you are talking about. Pain in my body.

Preparing the heart for another heartbreak, actually. But it was so peaceful and beautiful, even though it's extremely hard. Of course.

Aline:

Thank you so much for sharing that. That's incredible. I had no idea, of course, but we, we met a year or so ago now. I don't. I don't know how long ago.

And the fact that I, I just love that the her just like. Right, okay.

Ylwa:

Yes.

Aline:

We need to contact you. We need you to listen to us and we're going to contact one of your best friends. So.

Ylwa:

Yeah.

Aline:

Oh, that's absolutely amazing. That's so beautiful.

Ylwa:

Yeah.

Aline:

And it's. It's so interesting because we're going so much more towards the divine feminine and, you know, the world is changing.

I've been vegan for nine years and I don't know if, if you felt recently as well, especially this year. It's almost like. Not that I necessarily apologized for being vegan before. I just didn't really talk. Talk about it that much. I just, you know, am.

And actually I've been finding, because I. I was given a message on 22 July, Mary Magdalene's day, not this year, last year, that every either sunset, sunrise or noon, or two of the three, or three of the three, one of the three.

I send unconditional love out to all sentient beings all around the world and the cosmos who do not have the choice to live the life they truly deserve. And I've been doing this for, like, I said, well, I guess a year and a half now, every single day.

And I mentioned it a couple of times just, just online, because I was told just to tell people and if people are inspired, then that's really beautiful. And since I've been doing that, it's the. The energy of it, it's that consistency.

I've actually started really sticking up for animals, really sticking up well, for sentient beings. And the. The messages that I'm getting through, like on my.

On my Facebook, for example, I didn't know the EU were checking all the animal welfare laws. I just had a massive flash above me when I said I didn't know that the, that all the animal welfare laws, I had no idea, absolutely no idea.

t was supposed to happen from:

So I found myself actually starting to research a lot more and there's this amazing chat called Joey Carbstrong in the uk.

And again, all the synchronicity, how it all starts coming, and he does undercover investigations for what actually happens, you know, And I really feel it's about transparency. And as much as, you know, I understand not everybody can be vegan. And that's poss.

That's perhaps why, you know, when I went vegan at nine years ago, everybody around me was like, are you getting enough protein? Are you. This, you, you know, concerned? And I didn't really.

I didn't argue, I didn't say anything, I didn't try and stick it down their throats or anything. And then just naturally, one of my friends said to me, said, it's your fault I've gone vegetarian. I said, well, I've done anything. It's just that.

I'm just saying about the beautiful energy that you have. It's. It's like this when we, when we focus and we feel with our hearts and we feel.

Feel what feels right for us and we connect with all sentient beings, there's a ripple effect, isn't There. And.

Ylwa:

Yeah, it's massive.

Aline:

Yeah. And you're talking about, you know, you're writing for an incredible magazine at the moment, Brains Magazine. So congratulations. That's.

Ylwa:

Thank you.

Aline:

Wonderful. And everybody can hear your story. You know, you're here to share your story, so I know because you're. You're sharing so much in.

In the articles, I just wanted to kind of get a little bit more personal. So if there's anything you don't want to share, it's okay on this, let me know and we'll cut it out.

So I just really felt it would be really beautiful to share our, you know, the. The way you've described with Stella with extra Dacia is. And with Barco. Would you like to talk about Barco? Can you talk about Barco?

Ylwa:

Yes. Yes, I can talk about. Actually, I'm sitting where they rest because we have a place at the sanctuary. So they are with me now.

So it feels really, really beautiful. So Barco was. Yeah, the two girls were extremely hard, but Barku was the hardest so far because it was a total shock. We didn't expect this to happen.

And when it happened, we were so convinced that he was going to manage, that he was going to be all right. I was so calm. The herd was so calm. Everyone was so calm. And of course, it happened on Friday evening.

He was ill, so we had not the ordinary veterinarian who could take care of him. It was this, you know, team who is working on weekends and so on, and they have the whole county, so they cannot be here as quick as they normal are.

So when we get the first veterinarian out, she said he was going to be all right. But then the night Mats slept in the stable and Genial was with Barco because they were best friends. But he was a lot worse during the night.

And when we called the veterinarian once again, it took so long before she came here. And when she came here, she said, you're not going. It's not possible to save his life because he will not handle transportation to surgery place.

So in five minutes, we had to. What I was thinking, prepare Genial to say goodbye to his best friend for 12 years. And it was horrible. And.

But then something happened because it was so calm all the way. And for the first time, I experienced that I actually could have contact with the horse that had passed.

And he has been with me ever since, daily in dreams, in messages, in guiding, and about the, you know, the guilt I felt. I couldn't save him. He has told me that. Excuse Me, but I also have, I have a free will.

So you didn't consider that maybe it was time for me to go, that I chose to go and that was kind of turning everything around in my head because of course they have a free will.

And it may be sounds strange, it maybe sounds strange, but for the time being, Muriel also was here visiting and it was horrible that she had to experience this, of course, with his death, but somehow afterwards I actually have wondered if they orchestrated everything because without, without her being here, I don't know how we had managed through because it was such a shock. We were not prepared for it.

Aline:

They. I, I am such. And thank you so much for sharing.

I am such a believer that when we all come, we have our arrival date, we have our leaving date and the same for all sentient beings. You know, my. As you know, I study with Christos Deeperry and Foster Perry.

And Foster Perry is an incredible shaman and Christopher is an incredible magician and seer. And when Cleo passed, Christo said to me, she's just telling everybody what you know, she, she just lived like a queen.

And I remember having the conversation with her in France because I looked at her in July and I, and I knew, you know, we just know.

Ylwa:

Yeah.

Aline:

And I said to her, are you going to be okay to stay with me until 19, meaning 19 years old. She left the house on the 19th of September. She, she passed on, on the month after my birthday. She passed on the 18th of September.

And one of my questions, and I keep getting. The question is I keep getting the answers. Well, it couldn't have happened any other way. It was always going to be that date. It was my choice.

And because I, I, you know, go into the. One of my shadows is, oh, have I done it wrong?

And the answer that I continually get is, if you hadn't have gone to the vet, something else would have happened. Yeah, you know, it would have happened. Whatever was going to happen, it was going to be that day.

And I had the vision of how you beautifully prepared all your gorgeous sentient beings the herd for the passing. I had envisioned that the vet would come, I'd have her, I'd have all of our fur family together. And she passed gently.

And because it happened so differently, I suppose it's a similar. And as I'm talking, I've got Meowy who's coming up to say hello. He's come to give me a cuddle.

Ylwa:

Wonderful.

Aline:

And I feel what you're saying because, because it happened so quickly.

Ylwa:

Yeah.

Aline:

I'd messaged the vet in the morning and said, this has happened. Please can you come and see her? He didn't have a car, he couldn't come and see her.

And I didn't want to put her in the car, which was, I really felt, not putting her in the car and without going into all the whys and wherefores because we don't know to need to go into that. It was just. I feel I was being prepared because the night before I had a back treatment she was in the room with me and as I finished, she just.

She fell into my arms and gave me great big cuddles and said, oh, you're feeling so much better. That's great. Because we'd been to the vet two days before to have something removed from her ear and.

And as I had this thought that she was feeling much better, I think that's when something happened because it was almost like, I'm trying to just love you. And I don't know how to explain this because this is just coming to me now.

It's almost like she was saying when, when I had that thought, oh, she's feeling so much better yet we've gone till nine. She's 19 years old. Brilliant. She'll be here for my 50th. Fabulous. She was there for my 40th.

My only condition for my 40th birthday, celebrating with my family was that Cleo was there. And so where we went, she was with us. And it's like she has. There has to be an apartment where she's allowed to be.

And so I was, you know, I'd had the conversation, yes, to be here for my 50th. And then when she fell into me and there was just so much love. She was always doing that. It was beautiful. And I just. And then, then. And then she.

She moved or I needed to move, I think. And this is my other thing. I didn't take her out for the sunset because I just wanted her to rest. And that's the other thing.

Why didn't I take her out for the sunset? So when I came back. And also why did I go out for the sunset? Why didn't I just stay with her and cuddle her?

So when I came back in and she went to walk on my. Walk on my lap, I just moved my legs so she could sit over me.

And then there was this moment where she didn't want to continue coming and she just stopped. And now I look at that, what you're saying about how the herd contacted Muriel, I almost feel if I'd had a Muriel. Muriel had known.

They might have contacted her as well, or you or. Or anybody. Because I was almost in that kind of denial where there was.

I wouldn't say it was maybe a numbness because I. I didn't want to, because I'd convinced myself that she was okay. Not. So I'm gonna have to show you that I'm not okay. And then throughout that night, she was on my bed. And then she wasn't right next to me, though.

She was on the edge of the bed. And then she moved over. And where I have all my spiritual work, I have a spiritual mat. She was lying in the spiritual meds.

And it wasn't until the following day when she showed me the complete signs. And I. I lifted her up. I washed her and I lifted her up. And we just lay on my bed listening and listening to beautiful meditations and. Oh.

Oh, it's all right. Meowy. Somebody's walking past. Yeah. So I'm going off on a bit of a tangent. What I'm saying is, thank you for reminding me of this, because. Absolutely.

About free will.

And I've heard this so much, and I've just been reminded that for whatever reason, I was kind of cocooned to not realize until it was really suddenly the next day. Even though she may have been showing me signs, but not showing me signs because there wasn't anything physically going on that I could see.

See, I just knew that she was further away. And I was just thinking, oh, she doesn't want to be next to me, then okay, fair enough. Without actually feeling into.

That's really not like her, you know?

So I suppose as having this conversation, and I hope it helps other people realize that our bodies will do whatever is necessary to keep us safe and to keep us calm. And if that means a moment of delusion, then that's what's going to happen. If that's the best way to help us. Because I'd been in a situation in.

In July where there were family arguments and I'd come back not feeling brilliant. And I thought that my arm, like that, you know, with. And clear, was there with me as well.

And when I was having a discussion with one of the family members, she actually came between us. She came right. Right up to me like this. Protecting, completely protecting. And then when I was talking about it in.

In a group and I was crying, she was here. She was just, like, right up next to me. And so it's almost as if it was like, okay, I'm gonna be here with you for this and then it's my time.

So, yeah, I don't think this will go out feeling, it's just you saying that has kind of given me a little bit of a realization. Well, it's turning grief into understanding.

And as much as I felt that I have been doing, that I haven't really had, apart from the conversation I had with a family member for nearly two hours a week after Cleo passed, I haven't really, really spoken like this.

Ylwa:

So thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm talking to Barku each day, sometimes several times a day. And I've come to this understanding that it's only to.

Through heartbreaks we can expand our capacity to love.

Aline:

Yeah, yeah.

Ylwa:

And we have to have this capacity to understand the oneness that everything is. We are one. Every trees, every pet plants, humans. We are from the same source. And his death brought me to this, that I'm.

I see everything different now. I kind of recognize the plants in the bathroom when I, I enter the bathroom and I thank them for giving me fresh air.

And it was such an awakening for me, actually.

Aline:

This is why I really wanted to be outside.

Ylwa:

Yeah, I understood that.

Aline:

And this is the tree, the tree of love. I don't know if you can see, it's wonderful. And this is where Cleo and I were here together. And I have my medicine wheel.

I've actually opened up the medicine wheel for our conversation. So I didn't know where it was going to go. And it was really funny because the recording wasn't working. It wasn't recurring, wasn't working at all.

And I was, I was trying to just do, you know, an intro to introduce you. And it's like, well, I don't know what we're going to talk about.

And it was almost like, well, no, we're not going to work until you're both together.

And then when I send you the message saying, for some reason it keeps saying it's not recording, so please can you let me know you're getting these messages. And then as I made that decision, it allowed me to start recording. So, yeah, it's. It's incredible.

And I know it's Gaia, it's Cleo, it's the Fae, it's Hecate, it's all, you know, it's Lilith and her sisters. It's all elements. It's. It's the. You're talking about oneness and it really is about oneness.

And I go back to what I was saying before about how, you know, as empaths as sensitive beings. And I talk, you know, from, from my point of view, it's feeling so much and I'm never gonna not feel.

And I received the message this morning because I was working with a really beautiful spirit this morning who is Mother Nature, basically. And I was in. In the ritual and just got the messages that I. And I've. I've heard this so much.

And the message was that instead of worrying about how it's something along the line. I can't remember exactly because I didn't write it down. I just felt it. It was something about.

Instead of worrying about how you're going to feel after you've gone out into the world, because I always come back, have a shower, go out as yourself. Go out completely yourself.

Ylwa:

Yes.

Aline:

And yesterday, one of my family members, we needed to go to the hospital. And as you know, it was the, the, the morning after solstice and I was woken up, I came into the medicine wheel, I greeted the sunrise.

And yesterday was I'm nurturing. And as I said to you, I, you know, I shared that episode with everybody because I was told to. It was complete nurturing yesterday.

And I had, I had some. I'd left some water in the, in the bath and there was new moon energy in the bath.

So I added the hot water, had this beautiful nurturing experience to prepare myself to go out into, into the world to go and get a hospital appointment for my family member. Oh, wow. Can you hear the blackbird?

Ylwa:

I can hear it.

Aline:

Actually. No, it's not a blackbird. It's a woodpecker. And woodpecker is shamanic drumming. It's reminded you to get more into your shamanism.

So I'm being told, like, get back to your shamanism.

Ylwa:

Yeah. Wow. We saw an eagle at the winter solstice.

And it's very rare we see eagles over here, but it was right over our land here and it was really magnificent.

Aline:

That's so beautiful. On my birthday, there were 13 Eagles in the sky. Oh, yeah. One of my family members counted them. Was that. Oh, my God.

Ylwa:

Yeah.

Aline:

Not. Not this birthday actually. Last. Not this year. Last year. Yeah, they were in the sky last year. Sorry, I'm looking up because all the. Yeah, the pigeon.

The pigeons are always around the messages. Yeah, that's why I love being outside because it's just, you know, constant messages. So you also help people as well, don't you, my lovely?

You invite people to, to come to your sanctuary and work with the horses.

Ylwa:

Yeah.

Aline:

Do you want to talk a little bit about that? And. And how they heal.

Ylwa:

Yeah, it started. It started.

Started actually with or several years ago because people who come here and visit the herd, they feel they are very different from other horses because they have been through so much pain and they now hold light for others to help them to go through their challenges. And you can really feel it. But this. In the beginning of this year, my husband Mats was very sick in exhaustion syndrome.

And I don't know how it is in your country, but in Sweden they want to give you medication and send you back to work as soon as possible. And the routine, the procedure was the same here after two weeks. And he was, you know, he had.

His heart was beating way too fast and he couldn't sleep. And I had every symptoms. That's really worrying. They told him that, and he said, no, I will not take medicine.

And I said to Mats, we can ask the horses, we ask the herd if they want to help us. So I rolled him out on a wagon, I put him on a madras on a wagon in the pasture. And I felt that, okay, let's see what happens.

And the extraordinary was that the horses came because they were freely to come and they were free to go if they wanted to. But we did this several times, and each time it was different horses who joined.

And when he, for example, described before that, okay, today I have a pain in my heart. Some of the horses really stood with the muscle on his heart until he was feeling better. So we actually started a new kind of.

I don't like to say service, but I can't find the word in English right now.

Aline:

But service is beautiful because you're being in service. Why do you not like that? Just out of interest, why don't you like that word?

Ylwa:

No, because I. I feel that we have to really remind ourselves that the horses is not in our service. They have free will to participate in it.

Aline:

You are providing a service? Yeah. No, absolutely. There are guides. They're all.

Ylwa:

They are guys. Exactly. Yeah, but we've had. Yeah, yeah. Sorry.

Aline:

Your nose again. I don't want to interrupt you. And then I just thought there's a moment.

Ylwa:

Yeah, I'm very curious. I want to put my nose in everything. No, so. So it's. It's important for me to. To. To say that the horse's participate of free will as guides.

But where we, you know, when we. When we talk about it, we say this is come and try horse healing. Yeah, but they are still able to walk away if they want to.

And there are different horses who join, but for 10 months. He has fully recovered without medicine with the help of horse healing. And we have, of course, looked at some of its root causes.

His challenges to have healthy boundaries, for example, we've all had these kind of issues, I believe. And now he's working again. So this herd and this place is perfect place to heal both mentally and physically. And that's.

That's what we're going to develop here, I think.

Aline:

Gorgeous. That's so beautiful. My dream is to have my cat sanctuary. And again to. Because Cleo was always healing. She was the biggest healer when.

When I went away. When I lived in Barcelona, I went away for. For a week, I think it was to see family for Christmas.

And my friends in the apartment block looked after her. And she came back and said, did you know that Cleo's a feng shui master? That. Yep.

And they said that she went to every single apartment and she was going up and down the stairs and she went to every single apartment. And you know how cats do this? You know, they put the. They put their hands up on the wall and then they do that. Yeah, she was doing that.

And I think they said that they had. They went into the bathroom. This isn't very nice. And they said there were some cockroaches. And cockroaches are about fear.

That's, you know, that's their symbolism.

Ylwa:

Yeah.

Aline:

And she was just. Just sort of dealing with the cockroaches for them and. Yeah. And then they left. The cockroaches left.

She was feng shui ing the whole apartment building whenever. And at the end, she would always lie across my meridian here. She was always lying across here. That's why I've changed my.

Slowly, slowly I'm changing my photograph as you know, to honor her passing. First of all, it was her. Then the. It's the back of her. So it's like allowing. Allowing her to, you know, to. To be on the other plane. And I was in.

She was speaking to me as well. I was in ritual. The other day. I was. I was actually in my Akashic records. And it just came. Three came through at the end.

She said, please stop grieving me. Just came through. That was the last sentence. I was with my Akashic team asking for a healing on. On that occasion.

And it was just the last words that came through. And it was, Cleo, Mummy, please stop grieving me. So I really feel you obviously are here to help so many.

And I kept getting the message as well, that I should not should. It's. I. Maybe it was your Horses.

Ylwa:

Yeah, they are around here also.

Aline:

Yeah. You. I kept getting the message a couple of weeks ago, you have to go and visit Ilva. You have to go there.

Ylwa:

Yeah.

Aline:

And I actually. And it was. It was before I was in the house on my own for four and a half months, and it's before the people who were in the house came back.

And it was before they came back, I was like, you're going to be that. You. We think you should go there in December. Okay. Don't worry. I know that's not happening. It was just really, really strong, you know?

So I was like, right, okay. I. And. And then. And then I thought, well, I want to speak. I'd like to speak to you anyway. Whether any of this goes out, you let me know.

Because then I.

It might be beautiful for people to hear, not necessarily a whole conversation, because I know I'm tangenting a lot, especially everything that you've said, and to just help people to know that.

Just sharing and not holding it all in, I completely understand, because been there, done that, bought the T shirt, that sometimes we don't want to talk about it. Sometimes we just want to be.

And then if there's people out there who are going through something, something that can't talk about it, I would say go into nature, get in contact with Ilva, go to a sanctuary, be with the best guides in the world.

You know that I. I hugely believe that we have chosen, many of us have chosen to come and help the world, you know, help Mother Nature and to be of service ourselves and be guided by nature. Be guided. Because I was watching something the other day, and I don't understand it. I do not understand battery farming.

I do not understand the killing of animals. I don't understand it. There's nothing in my makeup that understands how that's okay. And I'm not doing a holier than now.

I'm vegan, so I. Physically, emotionally, it's. It's a. It's absurd. I don't understand it. I. It just. It's so alien to me. My. My nickname was Alien when I was younger.

Doesn't make any sense to me at all. And so my dream is to have a cat sanctuary and the people come to heal. And, you know, the same as.

As you said, it's up to the cats if they want to come or not. And for people just to understand that nature is the best healer. And the way you've.

You know, you've just spoken about Matt, in 10 months, he's been healed by nature. The Root core of shamanism, by the way, is getting to the root problem. That is shamanism, what you described shamanism.

And that is what it's all about, is getting to. Not the symptoms. You know, you've already said it beautifully. It's not the symptoms. It's getting to. What is that? Cause so what is that? What is that?

Deep, deep down? And that's the deep work I do as well. And obviously you do so beautifully. It's actually taking away all of those masks. Taking away all of those.

I'm fine. Taking all of those brick walls of. I'm gonna come out into the world with my mask on. This is how I'm feeling. I'm feeling wonderful.

When actually the reality is nothing like that. It's not about being doom and gloom. It's about being honest. And today, my process, by the way, conscious cocooning. Today is day 19, and it's.

I am honest.

Ylwa:

It's wonderful.

Aline:

And the action for today is to tell the truth with everything. So. So perhaps that's why I've just shared absolutely everything.

Ylwa:

It totally makes sense.

Aline:

Yeah. And, and, And I do feel it's so important that before anything else, we're just honest with ourselves. Like, how am I actually feeling?

Honestly, how am I actually feeling? I'm feeling happy. Okay, brilliant. I'm feeling a bit pissed off. Okay, well, let's look at that. Why? Why are you pissed off? Why did you react like that?

Why did you react rather than act? What's your body trying to tell you? Because I'm also going through the perimenopause. You know, as.

As so many women are and so many women have been through. And again, I feel with. With.

With the world going much more towards the divine feminine, there's a really beautiful group called My Voice, My Choice for the past three years. And this is what happened as well. I didn't know anything about them. About a month ago, three weeks ago, it came up on. On my feed and it was.

And I had no idea that all women in Europe didn't have the option of abortion. I had no idea that in Italy, in Malta, in other countries, the doctors will not help them to the detriment of their health.

You know, and women have died because they haven't been able to have that choice or some women have had to go to other countries. The cats are going bananas now. So I do. I do really feel we're not all just.

I'm just saying that as we really start feeling, Feeling into our authentic selves and who we really, really are, it's not pushing, it's allowing. And we see signs everywhere, and we see signs of what our values and our beliefs are. Because when. When.

This is my personal opinion, when we are really holding to our values and our beliefs, that's when we start seeing signs. And I've just seen really gorgeous colors around you as well.

Ylwa:

Yeah, And. And colors. These fantastic Northern lights we have here. Yes, exactly. That's the word. I think of Varco when.

Because it has been extremely beautiful this year. And I see him galloping over the sky. And Muriel sent us a picture of Barco galloping in the colors of the Northern lights.

And she didn't know that I'm thinking of this. So in Ireland, she painted Varco galloping in the Northern lights.

And we think of him each evening we see the Northern lights and get the same message as Cleo brought to you. Don't grieve me. I'm still here, you know. That's beautiful.

Aline:

That's. That's so beautiful. I didn't realize they were with the Northern lights. I saw your unwrapping, and I. And I thought.

And I felt that's just the most beautiful, beautiful gift. And the fact that you were seeing what she painted.

Ylwa:

Yes.

Aline:

Friendship.

Ylwa:

Yes. And she couldn't possibly have known because I didn't tell her.

Aline:

No. Wow, that's.

Ylwa:

So a lot of synchronicities. And the herd has been contacted, a lot of shamanic people this year, actually, for some reason.

And a woman whom I didn't know about contacted me and said, okay, this might sound a little bit crazy, but your horses have contacted me. And I said, no, actually, it does not sound crazy. Nothing surprised me anymore. So what have they told you to do?

And she told me I need to come and visit. So she was here. We had never met before.

She walked into our home, and she stopped, looked outside the window, and the horses did exactly the same as when I saw them contact Muriel. They just stood and looked at her, focusing. And she got the message that because she was studying some kind of leadership in.

You don't say high school, higher education in leadership, something.

Aline:

Okay.

Ylwa:

And she got. Yeah, so she got the message that she would contact ingenious people around the world to, you know, tell the stories.

The storytelling is extremely important. Important how? They live near nature, near the animals. So she's also doing some kind of shamanic, you know, trip in this life, obviously, from.

From being in. In leadership education. So she. It's so many things that has happened this year, and I'm not surprised of anything anymore.

Aline:

That's gorgeous. Really beautiful. Now.

I, I, I love that for you and the fact that, you know, we were just talking about values and beliefs and how, and how everything shows up.

I, I went to what I thought was just a meeting on behalf of one of my family members who wasn't here, and I ended up sticking up for rabbits and cats, though. It's just being shown who we are, I feel. And it's being, being shown. Yeah. That's so beautiful. And as you were talking, I just got the message.

Yes, Aline, the herd contacted you.

Ylwa:

Yeah.

Aline:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The herd con. Yes. Yeah.

Ylwa:

They, they who are still here in the bodies, they are looking at me right now, so they confirm it.

Aline:

I can feel them.

It's amazing because a few, quite a few years ago, there's a lady that I knew who, who worked with horses and I, and I actually visited and I was with the, with the horses and I just loved it and I loved it so much just being with them. I sang with them, put my hands on them.

And then I had somebody gave me a reading, a distant reading, and this is years ago, and they said, you're going to work with wild animals. So I don't know whatever shape or form that's going to look, I just accept at whatever time or moment that's going to come up.

So I suppose you can call cats who just turn up out the blue wild.

Ylwa:

Yeah, yeah.

It's the, it's the wonderful with, with animals and horses especially, because that's the kind of species I'm, you know, getting really in touch with. They are sensing what we are not showing.

Aline:

Yes.

Ylwa:

So they are very good guides in healing processes or in coaching as well, because. They show me what a person is feeling without the person telling me. So I can, yeah, I can, you know, through them, ask the right questions.

Aline:

Yeah, it sounds like Cleo.

Ylwa:

Yeah.

Aline:

And all the other cats. Because I don't know if you found this as well.

There's been quite a lot of changes in, in the roles because obviously they're, they're, they're adapting. Cleo, Coco and Tigre. Cleo was here for all of their lives.

So they're, they're adapting and I'm finding, I mean, they're, they're by my side, they're lying around me at night on the bed, like really close. They're kind of that in this little trio around me because Mr. G arrived a year before and they do so their behavior as well.

So if there's something happening in, if you're In a shared house. And, and your. Your sentient being, your guides are what we would say, what people would say. Playing up or being aggressive or peeing somewhere.

They're just showing you that there's something a bit imbalanced.

Ylwa:

Yes.

Aline:

With what's going on with you. And I remember when I was with this lady and I was with the horses, it was me mirror work. And so it was. So there was no horse riding.

It wasn't anything like that. We. I went with the herd. And that was my favorite part was in the herd in the wild.

And there's a video of me under a tree and then them all coming over. And then we were in the. The kind of circle, if you like, that was at the stables. So this wasn't in the herd. Pigeon coming down.

And it was communicating by just standing and just communicating with a heart connection to get this. It was a stallion. To get the stallion. And actually it's quite dangerous to. To get the stallion to. To move without doing much at all.

And there was a really beautiful, beautiful moment. There's a really beautiful connection because I fell off a horse when I was 17 and hadn't been back on. And it was just a few years before that.

I. I just. I went horse riding with my family and I absolutely loved it. And I just. I got. I got on. I just felt this instant connection as I. And I.

As I sat with this beautiful horse and I just felt really comfortable and I didn't feel, you know, remotely scared. I did feel a little anxious just when I was, you know, in. In this ring with the.

With the person on the outside and just me and the stallion, who could be a little bit temperamental. So it was really interesting for me what, you know, what was being shown and fear came up and boundaries came up. You know, it was. It was a.

It was a really beautiful experience. Experience and scary experience. And I.

What I'm saying, the reason I'm saying this is the way that you're organizing it is just natural and gorgeous and gentle.

And for me, me personally, when I'm with any kind of healing, it has to be natural and gentle and nothing where the other person feels uncomfortable, even though emotions may come up, like physically uncomfortable. I'm talking.

Ylwa:

Talking about.

Aline:

So I just love what you're. What you're offering, what you're listening to. Your herd is using you as your. As the channel to get through to everybody else.

Ylwa:

Yes.

Aline:

Amazing. It's so amazing. So I'll share all your details so people can get in touch with you.

Can read your articles, watch your journey, be involved and thank you. Thank you for you, my gorgeous.

Ylwa:

Thank you, Alain. I really, really enjoyed talking to you. I missed you. I hope we can talk soon again.

Aline:

You've just, you've gone frozen, so.

Ylwa:

Okay.

Aline:

Yeah, no, we will talk again. I don't know. Are you cold by the way? Because I'm feeling to bring it to a close.

Ylwa:

Yes. Actually, I'm starting to get a little bit cold.

Aline:

I just got the message. You need to close it now. She's cold.

Ylwa:

That's good. Thank you, Gaia.

Aline:

Certain. And then, and I start to cough as well. So. Yeah, I missed you as well. I, I mean this isn't going to go out there. I've missed you.

I have missed everybody. I did need to step back a bit because. Yeah, not, not from, you know, it was just from the group because there was, I actually left the group.

I've left.

Ylwa:

You don't need to explain. I, I, I, I've also been kind of a hermit this year.

Aline:

Yeah. Because I mean you'll understand this because there's empaths and then there's us.

Ylwa:

Yeah.

Aline:

And, and I found, you know, we did the Christmas thing last year, which was really lovely, but I almost felt like I was holding the energy of the entire group rather than participating. I was kind of holding everybody's energy to entertain everybody. And not that that's a criticism.

I mean I, I've kind of, you know, that's, that's been my mask. It you like through life is to show how I think people want to see me. So.

And it was one of my, and Christos, you know, one of my spiritual mentors said any group that you're with or anything that you like or you heart or anything you're attaching to the energy of the people. So because I didn't know everybody in the group as well as others, I just thought, well, I need to leave.

It doesn't want to stop recording here for hours. Okay, well, maybe I need to listen. So I've just put record on there. This, this message needs to go out as well.

Ylwa:

Okay.

Aline:

I know you're cold.

Ylwa:

Yeah. But I can talk as I walk slowly. Yeah. The herd, they have been so different after Barko's death from the previous the girl's passing.

They have been so calm. So it, it was like they knew.

Aline:

Yeah.

Ylwa:

All of them knew that he was going and actually Muriel took a picture of him the day before or the same day and he looked so sad. Barco, you can see that he. Okay, I'VE decided to go, but it's going to be tough, you know. Yeah, it was really. It has been.

It has been really special this time. They have acted differently, all of them.

Aline:

Well, I'm experiencing my first time so in Tigray for a couple of days. The day that she wasn't feeling well, he wouldn't come in. He was just lying under the other tree. Not this one, the. The one that's to my left behind.

There's five old trees in the garden and he. He was just lying there and when I brought her back, I've. I would never share these photographs cuz they're personal. When I brought her back.

Ylwa:

I. I.

Aline:

Put her on the chair as the vet tried to say to me, me, you're not taking her. I was like, really? I don't think so. So I brought her back and I just gently placed her on the chair and he jumped up on the chair and kissed her.

So it was. It was beautiful afterwards, you know. And I do feel that probably her, in fact, as I'm talking, Tigre's coming.

I think maybe Tigre just wanted to come and meet you. And maybe this will end up. Or being audio rather than video because you're still going to have the energy. We don't.

You don't need to see, you know that people are going to feel this. I think so as well.

Ylwa:

And I'm. I'm walking towards the herd as well because they. I get a feeling that they wanted to say something or just show up.

Aline:

Love that. I love to meet the herd.

Ylwa:

So here is.

Aline:

Thank you. And Stella here is Bassett. Hello. Beautiful. Amazing. Hi. I was just shown a mirror.

Ylwa:

Hi. You want to say hello to me? You want to say hello to me? This is genuine.

Aline:

My throat and my heart. Who's this?

Ylwa:

This is Genu, 29 years old.

Aline:

Oh, look at you.

Ylwa:

He has been with me for 19 years. He's been in my life. This is gorgeous.

Aline:

I'm only seeing their eyes. It's really interesting. I'm only seeing their eyes.

Ylwa:

This is the. Here is Queen, white nose. Queen. The only queen. Hello, Queen. So they wanted to say hello to you and now they have done it.

Aline:

They're looking at me like, hurry up. Yeah, all right. Yeah, we know. Just get on with it.

Ylwa:

Buses, buses. Bus is talking. You want to.

Aline:

Talking.

Ylwa:

Hello.

Aline:

Thank you so much. For you. What's he saying? Oh, yes.

Ylwa:

Sending love. Oh, no.

Aline:

Yeah, I'm just gonna be. I've been told to be quiet a moment, so I'm gonna be quiet a moment and Listen.

Ylwa:

You want to say something? That's it. You want to say something to Aline? He ended up with us because the world thought he was dangerous. And you see how dangerous he is.

Aline:

Do you know what he's just told me? He's just shown me a black stallion galloping around and has just said to me, you need to start standing up for us. You need to get on with it.

And as I'm saying this, T. Gray's behind me. Was it T. Gray? Oh, it's Coco. Coco's behind me, padding on my arm and my back. I mean, I had to be fair. So. So I. Yeah, I've just.

I've just been kind of seen to saying, like, stand on your soapbox. Start speaking up for us. That's. That's just what I got, because I got an image of the. Of. Of the running, of the galloping.

And then it was like, animals need you. That was just like, animals need you. Wow.

Ylwa:

Wow. I think this resonates really well because the horses are direct when they talk.

Aline:

Yeah.

Ylwa:

And you can feel sometimes that some of them are more direct than others. Barco can say to me, coming on my back. Oh, yeah, there. Bara can say to me sometimes, get yourself together. So they are very direct.

Aline:

And that's like, animals need you. You know, it's like. Because it's funny because I was saying to you wasn't. I've been having all of these. These campaigns and.

And I'm talking more about animal cruelty and how I just don't understand how can kill animals. And it's. And I think before it was that kind of, like, fitting in so you don't upset anybody. F. That.

Ylwa:

Yeah. Speak your truth.

Aline:

Yeah. And this is really interesting because it's all about, I am honest today. And I do speak my truth. What I don't.

And I, you know, I talk about self love and self acceptance and how as empaths and I take people through guided journeys. And what I've been doing more and more recently is actually just sharing journeys because that's. That's how it's inner work.

I know I'm here to help you with inner work. And I know I'm here to help people create the inner work on the outside so we can all live a beautiful, harmonious life.

Ylwa:

And it was really wonderful, actually, because when I stood with Basse, he put his muscle on my head and he stood there. Yeah. And he really. He stood there. He felt something maybe that I'm connected. I'm connected. And he felt it so he put.

Aline:

They're using as the channel. The fact that he was on top of your head. Yeah. Completely channeling.

Ylwa:

Yeah, yeah. It's wonderful. And he has a grounding role in the herd, so maybe he needed. He needed maybe some of the connection.

Aline:

Yeah.

And then, because also I came out this morning because after I. I'd connected with the beautiful spirit this morning, I was a bit like, oh, got to do this, got to do this. Got. I need to have a shower. I need to do that. It's like, just go outside an open the wheel and then what's your intent? Be grounded and honest.

Right, fine. And I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, good.

Ylwa:

Yeah. I think this would be a lovely episode.

Aline:

Yeah.

Ylwa:

I really enjoyed talking to you.

Aline:

I really love talking to you as well. I will go through and. And if there's anything not to be shared, then I'll be told. I kind of feel it will all be shared and just, just.

It's a really different episode because although, you know, many times I'll ask people, you know, what's your stuff story? How did this happen? How did this happen? It just feels to talk about where you are at the moment and thank you for sharing that because it's.

It's about being in the present. It's about being honest. And like I said, I've got my snow leopard onesie on and my hair hasn't been dyed for quite a while.

Ylwa:

You look beautiful. It's about the inner glow. It shines through the inner glow.

Aline:

Yeah. And the reason I wanted to see your face was because I thought it was going to be video. But sometimes it's just your nose and your mouth.

I'll be guided, whether it's video and audio or just audio. And mind you, the horses would like to be seen. So do you know what? It can be both. And if you're okay.

Ylwa:

I'm totally okay.

Aline:

Oh, do you know what? I don't want to go, but has been so gorgeous. Speaking.

Ylwa:

Yes, I. I feel it in. I feel uplifted and I feel it in my whole body that this was a really good conversation.

Aline:

This was a really beautiful conversation. And when I met you, I kept saying to you.

I kept saying to you, you've got to meet my, you know, my friend Suzanne, who actually I'm going to be speaking to just after Christmas.

Ylwa:

Yeah.

Aline:

And. And then. And then it's almost like. Well, actually, I think I'm just supposed to go there.

I do feel that you can do loads of beautiful work with Suzanne. Anyway, that. That's still you know she's a horse whisperer, as are you. That goes without saying. And I just felt so strongly when I met you.

It was really important for you to meet her. And then everything that we've all been through since it's like, okay, now. Is that. It's like Bass is saying, okay, you're back on your path now.

I'm really glad you're talking. Get on with it. And I had the feeling when I met you that I would be organizing retreats in your beautiful sanctuary. And I've never told you that.

Had that feeling. Really strongly. Really strongly. So, anyway, I'm just saying it. I've said it. There we go. Today's. I'm honest. And we'll.

Ylwa:

Yeah.

Aline:

We'll speak really soon, my gorgeous.

Ylwa:

Yeah. And you will have a beautiful Christmas. We were thinking about you.

Aline:

Yeah. Well, I wish you your blessings. Have a beautiful, beautiful Christmas. Lots and lots and lots of blessings for you all. For all your family.

Ylwa:

Yeah.

Aline:

Thank you for all your family on the Rainbow Bridge who are still with you. And just thank you, you gorgeous. Really, really. Thank you. For you. You're amazing.

Ylwa:

You're amazing, too. Thank you so much. Lots of love and light. Yeah.

Aline:

Thank you. Thank you, thank you. Thank you. For you.

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