You have felt it before. A close friend meets someone, or falls pregnant, or gets the thing you have quietly been waiting for. And you feel happy for her, you genuinely do, and also something else entirely. Something that does not have a polite name. Something you push down because you are not supposed to feel it. In this episode, Lucy and her close friend Tessa sit down to dissect, in real time, what actually happened between them when Tessa met her now husband while they were both living as single women in Mexico City. They had built one of those friendships that functions almost like a relationship, the kind where you are each other's anchor, each other's safety, each other's person. And then one of them found another person. This conversation is raw and unscripted and genuinely healing to witness. You will leave understanding why the jealousy and grief that comes up in these moments is one of the most normal and least talked about experiences in female friendship. Why shame makes it worse. Why sometimes the most loving thing is to say the true thing out loud rather than performing okayness until the whole thing quietly breaks. Find out more at www.lucymaeve.com.