Robina Abramson-Walling's profound journey of transformation from experiencing debilitating symptoms of burnout and anxiety to embracing holistic healing methodologies is the focal point of our discussion today.

In this enlightening conversation, she shares her struggles with conventional medicine, which often treated her symptoms in isolation rather than addressing the comprehensive nature of her health. Robina articulates her discovery of natural medicine, including frequency healing and somatic movement, which not only rejuvenated her health but also redefined her purpose.

As a board-certified health coach and PhD candidate in natural medicine, she now empowers women to reclaim their vitality and embrace the changes that accompany perimenopause and menopause. Join us as we delve into the complexities of holistic health and the imperative of listening to one's body during this transformative stage of life.

Takeaways:

• The journey of aging gracefully involves breaking taboos and embracing transformation during perimenopause and menopause, which is essential for personal empowerment.
• Individuals experiencing hormonal changes should seek supportive communities that understand their unique challenges during this transition.
• Robina Abramson-Walling emphasizes the interconnectedness of physical and emotional health, advocating for a holistic approach to healing and well-being.
• Traditional medical approaches may overlook the deeper emotional and psychological aspects of women's health, necessitating exploration of alternative therapies.
• Stress significantly exacerbates menopausal symptoms such as hot flashes and brain fog, indicating the need for effective stress management strategies.
• Robina's personal journey highlights the importance of listening to one's body, recognizing early signs of burnout, and seeking appropriate support and care.

Welcome to the My Third Bloom podcast where we get into unfiltered conversations about the powerful journey of aging gracefully during perimenopause and menopause, breaking taboos and embracing transformation.

I'm your host, Tricia Blake, founder, CEO and chief awesome officer of My Third Bloom where we are on a mission to empower those experiencing perimenopause and menopause.

We're guided by empathy and fueled by innovation.

We provide support, education and resources.

Whether you're navigating the rollercoaster of hormonal changes or seeking a supportive community, you're in the right place.

Buckle up and get ready to bloom with strength, wisdom and grace.

Hey listeners.

Welcome to the next episode of the My Third Bloom podcast.

Our guest today has an amazing story.

Just some background.

She was exhausted.

She was feeling anxious and burned out.

She battled brain fog, depression, stubborn weight gain, joint pain and relentless fatigue.

Yet every doctor treated her symptoms as isolated issues, never addressing the bigger picture.

When conventional medicine failed to provide answers, she turned to natural medicine which and discovered the power of frequency healing, biofield tuning, breathwork, somatic movement and holistic hormone support.

What she learned didn't just change her health, it changed her purpose.

Now as a board certified health coach and PhD candidate in natural medicine, she is on a mission to help women break free from the same cycle of exhaustion and imbalance.

Through her beam method, she empowers women to reset their bodies, rebalance their hormones and reclaim their vitality naturally.

She believes to her core that your body is designed to heal and she is here to show you how.

Tell you how.

Please join me in giving a warm My Third Bloom podcast welcome to Robina Abramson Walling.

Hey girl.

So much for that.

So grateful to be here.

So grateful to have you.

So grateful to have you.

Thank you for saying yes.

I am excited to have this conversation.

So I think just to let's jump right in.

Tell.

Tell us a little bit more about what sparked this journey for you.

Yeah, and I think it was burnout.

And you know I'm the typical person that is that overachiever that is always something and very busy.

You know, we grew up with the mentality that you always have to be busy and working and in that hustle culture and that was who I was.

And then one day I woke up and I felt like a mat Mack truck had hit me and I didn't know how to deal with this.

I literally couldn't get out of bed and you know, it was really unlike me.

And so the narrative in my head started going Off.

And the questions and the comments were like, you're being lazy.

Get up.

You should be able to do this.

You know, all the things that I think we're told as women to, like, not listen to our bodies, but keep going.

Yeah.

And I really realized that, you know, something was wrong because things had really shifted.

So, you know, I called my doctor and I love my doctor.

Like, he is an amazing, unconventional medical doctor.

I called him and I said, david, up with me.

And you know, he pulled me into the office and we did like all the blood work and.

And of course everything came back normal.

And so you're left kind of feeling like, is this in my head?

Am I really feeling like this?

And, you know, really starting to question yourself.

So I decided I'm going to call a naturopath and see if there's something else.

Because with the conventional way that medicine works, there is specific boundaries or guidelines when your blood values have to be in for them to be therapeutic.

But that doesn't necessarily mean that they're optimal for you, that you can like function in those capacity and that capacity.

So I called a naturopath that I knew when he did some labs and he was like, yeah, you know, your progesterone is really high, you know, your estrogen's okay, but, you know, I think maybe you could go on something like estradiol or something like that.

So I wanted to do like the natural way of doing it.

And so, you know, I.

I was like, okay, that was what I needed.

I needed a diagnosis.

And the reality of it was is I started taking like hormone, these plant based hormones, and I didn't feel any better.

I literally was just like, I think I still felt it and I just mustered through everything.

And then.

So after a few months I realized, wow, this is expensive.

It's not really changing the way I'm feeling.

And so I went off it.

And that was one part of my journey because I want people to understand that there no one's journey is exactly the same.

Yeah.

And no one's experiences, like, look the same.

So that was the first part.

And of course I went back into the same behaviors.

I started hustling again.

I started not listening to my body and all these things.

And then trauma sort of started to hid in.

When, you know, my children were going through this different phase of their life, they moved out.

And it really triggered something inside of me.

And that something inside of me was a big depression that like settled in out of nowhere.

So I have no family history of any mental illness or Anything like that.

And I sat into this big.

This big experience of depression where it was functional depression, where I could show up for my clients, but yet, after I was showing up, I literally, like.

Like, crawled to my bedroom.

Mm.

Oh, gosh.

And again, you know, because I'm very strong, and, you know, that's the narrative that a lot of us women have, is we can't ask for help, and we don't want anyone to know.

And God forbid, if you're West Indian, too, that's like, you don't tell anybody your business, right?

So months went by, and I was functioning to this capacity, and I was declining more and more.

I noticed I was getting fibromyalgia, like, pains in my legs and my arms.

And again, went to my doctor, did all the blood work.

Everything was fine.

You didn't have fibromyalgia?

Not have fibromyalgia?

No.

So they did my thyroid.

They checked for autoimmune disease.

They checked everything.

Everything was normal.

So then I decided, well, you know, this depression is getting really bad.

And it's only because my doctor's office had called me and said, you have an upcoming physical.

And I said, sorry, I can't come, because I didn't want to go to my doctor.

And the receptionist said to me, robina, you don't sound good.

I'm getting David to call you asap.

And I was in a real state of depression where there were suicidal thoughts and everything.

So my doctor called me, thank God, and he was like, you know what?

I said, david, I need help.

I don't know how I'm in this state.

Like, this is really bad.

In my mind at the time, I was a life coach and a mindset coach, and they.

You know, in the mindset world, it's, you know, depression doesn't exist, because if you have control over your mindset, then that doesn't happen.

So there was the shame of all this on top of it.

And plus, because I was a nurse, and I really want to focus on the natural way of doing things, it was going against my core beliefs.

And I'm grateful for my doctor, because he was like, I'm not going to medicate you.

What I want to do, what I want you to do is meditate.

And I'm like, boy, I meditate, like, three times a day.

So I was already on that.

That path.

And long story short, a couple weeks went by.

He said to me, you need to go and visit your mom in Jamaica.

She lives in Jamaica.

And get pampered and just let Your mom take care of you.

When you come back, we'll discuss options.

So I went on this trip.

I was crying the whole time I was there.

Came back, and we put me on a very low dose of an antidepressant.

And why I bring this up is because there was a need for that in that moment.

Right.

So I was on that antidepressant for six months, five months.

He wanted me on for six.

And as soon as I took that pill and whether it be, you know, a placebo effect or not, I felt better and as I had hope.

And so I want to hold on to that idea while we talk about this, because it takes a glimmer of hope for people.

Mm.

Whatever strategy, whatever path you choose, whether it's with medicine, whether it's the natural way, it just takes you believing that there's options for you.

Right.

That's one of the things that I really want to talk about, because I truly believe that if I didn't go through that situation, then I wouldn't have had the courage to realize, okay, this is not just about my hormones.

This is not just about depression.

Depression.

There's something deeper.

And so at the time, I was looking for alternative methods, so I was doing frequency.

So I would.

I was going to someone doing body talk.

So that was an alternative therapy.

I was listening to Dr.

Joe Dispenza and understanding his work.

And he does a lot of meditations and, you know, records it in real time to show how people's brains are changing and their chemistry is changing.

And I came onto a path of recognizing that there was a lot more happening in my body than just a chemical thing.

And I realized that there was emotional trauma, there was chronic stress that needed to be addressed.

So I started to have some different sessions with biofield tuning, with Reiki, with all kinds of different energy healing.

Yes, yes.

Can you just explain for our listeners, when you're talking about biofield therapy.

Biofield tuning.

What.

What exactly is that?

So biofield tuning is using sound frequency from tuning forks.

So you guys know what tuning forks?

They're musical instruments that basically look like.

Almost like a wishbone.

Yeah, I played the piano.

And they're.

They're all tuned to different frequencies.

And so with the sound that's emitted, you can actually work on different energy systems in the body.

So it's a very non invasive way of helping people address emotional disturbances that are in the body.

So how does.

Go ahead, ask the question.

I wanted to know because, like, this is another modality.

Right.

And for.

For specifically, we're talking about, like.

You're talking about being, like, emotional.

Addressing emotional things.

What about the physical?

So when we're speaking of.

Because this is my third bloom, perimenopause and menopause, like, what.

How does that transform for people?

Yeah.

So studies have actually shown that if you are in a state of stress, your symptoms will be worse.

Okay.

So we're talking about hot flashes, we're talking about brain fog, we're talking about sleep disturbances.

If your body is under a state of stress, the symptoms will be worse.

Okay.

So what I realized is as I was going through this and I was recognizing, okay, there is some disturbances happening in my body, I realized that the chronic stress that my body was under, not just from the environment, from my life, from things that were happening, I was realizing that it was exacerbating everything.

Makes sense.

Yeah, no, it definitely makes sense.

So.

So what I did was I sought out all these different modalities to help calm my nervous system in.

In kind of a backward way.

Like, I didn't really know what I was doing, but I knew that there was more happening than just something on my physical body.

So as I was doing this, I was realizing that I was getting better, and so there was more clarity.

And then the fifth month of being on the antidepressant, I decided that, you know, I gotta do something with this.

I.

To figure out a little bit more.

So that's when I enrolled in my PhD and doctorate of natural medicine.

Where we really take the medical world or the medical model, and we take quantum physics.

So we look at a lot of energy and we blend the two worlds together.

So it's a very different approach in helping women, for me, calm their nervous system, help them deal with hormone imbalances, help them recognize, you know, how to work with their body.

Because this is a part of our life.

Like, it's a natural progression.

But I think that one of the stereotypes that we've inherited that are not our stories is that it's.

It's a bad time, our.

Our lives end.

That there is so much doom and gloom associated with it.

But there are also a lot of beautiful things that come with it too.

The wisdom, the knowledge of the body, you know, how to transition in life and, you know, have your third bloo.

Like, it's a beautiful way of helping women really embrace this phase of their life versus that hard stop.

And so as we have that hard stop, we're working with more opposition versus integrating and transitioning and working with the body.

How do you deal with because this is new for me, you know, just understanding, just energies and how it's working and biofuel tuning.

How do you navigate the debate in your work?

So you decided you wanted to go to natural medicine.

You know, there's skeptics, right?

Conventional versus this way.

What would you say to skeptics who question the effectiveness, let's say, of these?

Absolutely.

So one of the beautiful things of the school that I go to is part of the degree is you have to do research, you have to quantify this.

And so if you guys think about over the years, like, you know, people used to think yoga was woo woo, and then now they're starting to realize the benefits of it and meditation and all of these things and even the power of prayer and how there's a lot of research that's done on the power of intention that shows that prayer circles can actually heal people.

So part of it is, is the validation of it through the empirical evidence.

So creating that data to show that the importance of the shift.

One of the things, the other thing I think is, you know, people are recognizing that the medical way of doing things is not working.

So we might solve the hot flashes, but we might, because of, you know, hrt, we might get something else.

Any pill comes with a consequence or a side effect of something else.

So really teaching people, you know, how to come in alignment with the body, how to do things that are, don't have side effects, but help your body calm itself.

And that is, I think where medicine is going is it's teaching people how to be involved in their health.

You know, not just going to a doctor and learning, you know, oh, I take the pill from you and I, I believe what you believe that this is going on, you know, or it's, you know, you, you are an active participant in your health and you decide the destiny of your health.

Do you think there's room for both?

Absolutely.

I think there's a time and a place for conventional medicine because the think about this as individuals, we're not just a human body.

There's more to us.

Right?

So if you were to walk into a room and you, let's say you're going to someone's house and you walk in there and you're like, oh, the vibe in here, something's off, feels weird.

Yeah, vibes isn't good.

Okay.

So that's because, that's because we have an energetic body around us.

Okay.

So it's actually called our vital body.

And when you do things like acupuncture, you work on the vital body.

Right.

When you do things like Reiki, you work on the energetic body.

When you do biofuel tuning, you're working on the energetic body.

There is 5ft diameter of information in that, that field.

And so as we go through life, we actually have chaos and conflic and it leads to disorganized information.

So what happens with acupuncture or Reiki is the person is working on bringing the power back into center for you.

So our physical body is just one aspect of us.

So if you think about someone that is in perimenopause or even menopause, they don't just have hot flashes, they don't just have mood swings, they don't just like there's an emotional component, you know, there's a mental component that's associated with it.

So giving someone a pill is just taking care of the physical?

Yeah.

Only one part.

Yeah.

So it's teaching people how to work on all the other layers of us.

And there are five layers of us.

So working on just the physical body is only taking.

It's like a band aid solution for just one aspect of us.

Wow, that's.

That is so interesting.

I love the.

You're going from your personal journey, you know what I mean?

And that's, it's, it's deep and it's deep for all of us.

And when we think of how we either seek treatment, receive treatment, it's surface level, but you're going a lot deeper.

Yeah.

So a lot of the women that I work with, some of them are just entering perimenopause right now.

And I have one client who is having heart palpitations, blood sugar was dropping, dizziness, you know, weight gain, brain fog, all these things.

Had to wear a halter monitor to check her heart and all of these things happen.

She's having like sleep apnea.

And the doctor says everything's normal.

And one of the things I said to her was like, you know, there probably is perimenopause that's sneaking up here that is, you know, contributing, adding an extra layer on top of this.

But let's deal with the stress that you are experiencing so that we can take one layer off.

And so, yeah, so the most important thing is like helping you look at how you view things.

Maybe it's things in your past that have happened.

Okay, let's learn to reframe it.

Let's re identify what you're going through in your life.

How can we reframe what we're experiencing?

And then teaching your body new Habits that are in alignment with the vision for the future versus a diagnosis.

Right.

Helping empower you to control the things that you do have control over, like, you know, your sleep, your movement, what you put in your mouth to eat, all of these things are really important aspects and things that we can control that can help you work through this a little bit easier.

So with these natural approaches, you know, you have a holistic approach.

I think when your bio.

I was reading the beam method.

Can you share a little bit more about what that is?

Walk us through how it works.

Yes.

Yeah.

So it kind of is all about helping you get balanced, getting you into alignment, getting you energized.

So it's balanced.

Energized alignment, and then the integration.

Right.

So just managing it all and getting it together.

And so what the key is, is when we are experiencing anything in our body, our body is out of alignment.

Our body is not energized.

There is no balance.

And so teaching the body that it's safe enough that it can come back into balance.

Right.

So we do that through.

You know, I use a few different tools.

I use a lot of frequency healing, so sound therapy.

So I send a lot of my clients different files with binaural beats that they work with at night.

That helps calm the nervous system as well.

There's tons of different modalities.

Biofuel tuning.

There's another thing I just started doing, which is the bio.

Well, that literally can scan your body and see what areas are stressed.

And it could not necessarily diagnose you, but what it does is it says these parts of your body, whether it's your organs, whether it's your cardiovascular system, whether it's your chakras are needing extra support, because when they are constantly stressed, then that's when illness comes.

So we work in terms of that.

So what I wanted to do, to kind of allude back to your other question about the people that are naysayers, is I wanted people to have something concrete because it's really hard to measure energy.

It's really hard.

So what I wanted to have is let me scan you before and see where your body's at.

And then we can scan you.

And it's using something called Kirlian photography.

It kind of takes a picture of your aura, but that's all the.

The energy that's happening around you and in your organs.

And so it gives us a good indication of what needs to get done and then how to measure it.

I think of me being a change practitioner by day.

There's that Awareness, like, people are resistant to change that.

You know what I mean?

There's that.

That tug, because they don't have the awareness of what it is.

So when patient.

When clients come to you, how.

How are you meeting them, where they're at?

Like, is it.

I don't know, like a 101?

They've never.

They've never heard of this before.

And so, you know, just like, when you go to the doctor, you hear something, it's like, oh, I'm not so sure.

How do you.

How do you navigate that?

How do you walk them through?

You know that this is.

This is safe, and, you know, there's that trust and going back to what you were talking about before as it relates to hope.

Do they already know about this before coming to you, or are you introducing it to them in terms of, like, client base?

So it's a bit of both, I think.

People that come to me are pretty much like, I don't feel like myself.

I don't know what to do, and I don't know how to get there.

And I think that that's the first step is like, listen, you know, they hear about me usually through word of mouth or somebody that's, you know, seen me for a type of session of some sort, and I will just talk to them and find out what's happening in their body, what's going on in your world, you know, and usually by the time that I finish talking to them, I can kind of understand, are there subconscious programming that's blocking them?

Is their body under constant stress?

Like, it's.

It's pretty easy to pinpoint, but it's really about people, I think, feeling like they've been through the system and the system isn't seeing them or hearing them, and they're recognizing that something else.

I got to try something else.

And that is where people are becoming more open.

And so when I talk about sound and frequency, one of the things I can kind of say to you guys is, like, think about when you hear a song and it makes you emotional.

Yeah.

How you feel.

Yes.

Like, sound is so profound.

Didn't mean to make that rhyme.

But sound is so profound, and it impacts us so much.

And if you think about the human body and if you go back to, like, chemistry, we're remembering that there is a positive charge and a negative charge in our body, just like protons, electrons, and neutrons.

And so we're batteries.

You know, when we die, they.

They charge our heart to bring us back.

Right.

Electric beings.

And frequency is something that can Bring us back into balance.

So think about, you know, what are you listening to?

Is it something that's soothing the body or is it stressing the body?

Right.

And a lot of times if I say something like that, then people are like, yeah, like I understand what you're saying.

I don't know if you've ever had a sound bath.

Have you ever gone to a sound bath?

Yes.

Yeah.

And like you can literally you'll notice like you're like, wow, I really felt like I felt that in my throat.

Yes.

And that would tell me.

Yeah.

Or your chest, that would tell me, okay, your throat chakra is off, right.

Or your heart chakra is off and your heart is like your cardiovascular system, your mammary glands, like your throat is your thyroid and your like all these other things.

So it really does tell you a lot of what's going on because there's more to us than just an organ.

Right?

There's so much more to us.

And I think that people are understanding the complexity of humanhood and being human beings.

And on top of that, we are constantly stressed by our day to day.

So how do we help people really walk through life?

Because stress isn't going to stop, but how can we learn to manage it a little bit better so there's less stress on our body, less stress on our mind, less stress on our spirit and our energy systems.

So you give us the tools to be able to do that.

And one of the tools I think we were talking about or when I was reading your, your intro, the role of breath work and somatic movement for again, for listeners who might not be familiar, I know there was, there's a study that they say mindful breath work and somatic movement can decrease Cortisol levels by 30%, maybe more, you know, and reducing stress related symptoms as it relates to like the menopause transition from the mood swings, the fatigue and the sleep disturbances.

How does first of all, just to give an explanation of breath work and somatic movement and how that what it is and how does it help to reset our, our nervous system or you know, support our balance us.

Yeah.

So there breath work is very complex.

There's so many different types of breath work.

But I can teach you like one simple one you can do in your car.

It's literally breathe in for four, hold for four, exhale for four and then do nothing for four.

And you can do that for like five rounds and you'll notice that you just feel lighter and calmer and what you're signaling to the body Is it's okay to relax.

The breath is what connects us to our nervous system.

It does everything.

And as we're stressed, we shorten our breath, right?

We literally, like, are hyperventilating all the time.

And so what we're doing is we're teaching the body that we're in a calm state.

Because I'll tell you, human beings are the only mammals that literally can think of something and have cortisol go up.

Not, like everything shoot up just from a thought.

It doesn't even have to happen.

But, you know, in the wilderness, there's, like, gazelles, like, you know, prancing around, like, eaten by a tiger.

And then all of a sudden, like, there's chaos.

They shake it off, that somatic movement, right?

Because you're saying to your body, okay, I'm letting go of this energy.

And then you're.

They all of a sudden are, like, grazing again.

It's like, that didn't happen.

That's the shoulder, you know, Right.

So somatic movement, it doesn't have to be complicated.

It's just, like, shaking.

And you'll notice sometimes, like, for me especially, like, I still get a period.

And when I.

Before I get it, I literally, I.

I say to my husband, I feel stale.

Like, the energy in me, like, it feels.

I just feel.

I can't even explain it.

It just feels stale.

That's the only word I can use.

And so I literally am just sitting there shaking, you know, or.

Or put on music and just dance.

You're moving energy that is in your body, right?

So somatic movement does help, and so does breath work.

But again, it's teaching the body.

It's safe.

It's teaching the body, okay?

We don't have to be in fight or flight anymore.

Because this day and age, like, 80% or more of every health condition that exists is related to stress, right?

So every type of stress we have, it could be physical, it could be emotional, could be environmental.

It could be from the foods we're eating.

Like, our bodies are constantly being attacked.

And so if you can learn to manage your stress, then you can learn to manage your hormones.

Learn to manage your stress.

You can learn to manage your hormones.

That's an easy one, people.

Let me ask you about.

We're talking about burnout, stress.

What are the early warning signs?

Because we're already far gone.

You know, like you said the Mack truck hit you.

Yep.

What is the trigger?

Like, when you're.

If you're in tune, how can you be in tune to be like, okay, I Need to start to pay attention to this.

Yeah.

And here's the thing.

I think a lot of us have been conditioned to not be in tune.

We're taught to keep going.

Like.

Like there's stuff we gotta do.

We don't have time to sleep.

My sister says.

I always say this.

My sister says, sleep is for suckers.

No sleep.

Champions, okay?

Champions.

Like, if you master your sleep, you can literally master a lot.

So one of the things I would say is feeling outside of your body, hearing that inner voice that's always saying, I'm tired, I'm tired.

I'm like, we need to tap back into our bodies and start listening to our intuition because our body is talking to us.

Whether it be that, you know, I'm tired.

Oh, God, I don't want to do this again today.

Whatever it is, you need to start paying attention.

Because I say all the time your body is talking to you.

And it will continue to talk to you until it makes you listen.

We don't want to go into burnout.

We don't want to experience all those things.

We have to give ourselves a little bit of grace.

And there is something to be said about slowing down, to speed up.

Right.

You know, you go on vacation and all of a sudden you're like, I got this.

Like, I feel great.

I feel good.

Like the weather sucks.

But I, you know, it's like, because your body's had a chance to decompress.

Come down.

Yeah, love that.

So just listen to your body when it starts talking to you.

Like, if you're wondering, like, hold on a second, what's happening.

And I think the other really important thing to say to women that are listeners here is that you know, you know your body best.

Yes.

And no matter who you go to, practitioner wise, if they are not on the same page as you, you need to find another practitioner.

Like, go with the right questions, question the answers that they give you.

We're not in a day and age where, like, the doctor always knows best because they know what they've been taught.

Right?

Right.

And they don't necessarily know a lot about this phase in life because it hasn't been researched much.

You know, they don't there.

And.

And then on top of it, we're looking at different, different communities that haven't been recognized of the differences that they go through during these life.

So, you know, I would say trust yourself and shop around because you gotta find somebody who resonates with you.

Yes.

That is so important.

Empower, feel empowered, to, you know, take control.

There and don't take no for an.

Answer like, you know yourself, you know your body best.

Nobody else knows it.

Nobody else knows it.

So it doesn't matter what labs say or anything.

Just keep going, you know, because they're.

The truth of the matter is if you don't feel like yourself, something is not right.

Yes.

Yeah.

Thank you for sharing that.

Welcome.

So I have one last question.

This is our.

Before we wrap up, have a little bit of fun.

If you could go back and give one piece of advice to the younger Robina about what's coming, what would it be?

Slow down, slow down.

Savor life.

Don't rush.

And all the things that are meant to come to you are going to come.

You don't have to push so hard.

Oh, I love that.

Thank you.

Well, folks, there you have it.

Robina, this has been such a powerful and eye opening conversation.

I am sure our listeners, this was a masterclass.

And oh, there's other ways, there's other things.

Like I'm learning and I think that's part of the journey because everybody's journey is unique.

Learning what is out there.

You do have some options to explore because so many of us are navigating perimenopause and they're just, they're tired, they're feeling exhausted, they're dismissed, they're unsure of where to turn.

But your journey and, and the work you do, you know, I think is really helping to help shift that narrative as we talk about, you know, how to live our best lives, you know, as we, as we age and offering different solutions and healing, you know, and I think that in itself is, is real empowerment.

Yeah, that, that is definitely real empowerment.

So I think for those who want to dive deeper into your approach, where can they connect with you and learn more?

You guys can contact me at my website, www.rootofhealing.com and it's r O U T E like the roads that lead you there.

That's the root.

And on Instagram at root of healing as well.

Thank you for sharing.

So to everyone listening, I hope this conversation reminded you that you are not alone in this journey.

That you know your body, your body is not working against you.

There are tools, there's supports and there's knowledge out there to, to help you thrive, you know, slow down.

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You know, it's about stepping into your Third Bloom.

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