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Interview: The Business of Travel Points with Eli The Travel Guy
Episode 88 • 25th February 2025 • Neville Medhora Talks Copywriting • Neville Medhora
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Eli Facenda runs Freedom Travel Systems, and basically is like a travel agent for people with credit card points.

0:00 - Intro

0:20 - How the Internet Replaced Traditional Travel Agents

1:00 - Eli: The CPA + Travel Agent Hybrid

1:46 - How I Accidentally Built Up Over a Million Points & Traveled for Free for 7 Years

3:40 - What Is a Travel Agent Now? Two Modern Roles Explained

5:45 - How Eli Makes Money: Commissions, Fees & Memberships

8:20 - Travel Avatars: The Nomad eCommerce Guy & Family Luxury Travelers

9:25 - Why Credit Card Optimization Is So Hard to Follow

10:30 - Asking Nomadic Matt About Credit Cards (Most Don’t Have This Access)

11:35 - Points Per Mile: How to Calculate Value for High-End Travel

13:35 - First-Class Flights vs. Cool Hotels — What Do People Prefer?

15:38 - Sam’s Private Jet to Middle Seat Story (The Struggle Is Real)

18:12 - Why First Class Reduces Travel Variables (Coach = Chaos)

19:30 - Why Hotels Feel Like a Bigger Ripoff Than Flights

22:15 - Ranking Points: Non-Transferable, Airline-Specific, or Transferable Bank Points

23:59 - Why Airlines Use Complex Point Transfer Structures for Huge Deals

25:35 - Airlines Are Just Banks with Airplanes

26:32 - How the Internet Ruined Loyalty Program Benefits (But Increased CC Signups)

27:45 - Subscribe to Us!

28:41 - Why Travel Blogger Monetization Has Dropped Because of AI

30:10 - Joe’s Shift From Selling $10 Travel Guides to Personalized Itineraries

31:55 - Where Travel Bloggers Are Pivoting as Competition Increases

33:15 - How Travel Bloggers Monetize: Affiliates, Sponsorships & Travel Insurance

35:00 - Buying an Instagram Account With 200K Followers for Free Perks

37:29 - The Virtual Concierge: Hotels Paying for Itineraries That Boost Destinations

39:14 - Why Online Travel Agencies (Like Orbitz & Expedia) Are Affiliate-Driven

39:35 - The Ultra-Luxury Travel Market: Planes, Yachts, Helicopters & Private Villas

41:40 - My Private Jet Experiences (No, I Didn’t Pay!)

42:50 - Amex Platinum FHR: Extra Perks at Luxury Hotels

44:08 - Can 9-to-5 Workers Accumulate Massive Travel Points? (Yes, But It’s Hard)

45:40 - eCommerce Businesses That Break Even—Just to Earn Credit Card Points

47:25 - Eli Accidentally Lived in a “Creator House” With Internet Personalities

49:09 - Social Media Follower Inflation: Why Many Numbers Are Fake

50:35 - Eli’s 25M+ Instagram Reels Views (Great for Credibility, Bad for Leads)

51:40 - Why Email Is Still King for Monetization (Even for Big Creators)

54:00 - Ross Hudgens: Niche Videos With $10M Lead Potential

55:10 - iOS 14 & Privacy Laws Ruined Traffic Tracking for Social Media

56:20 - How Mini Case Studies Inspire People to Take Action

57:40 - Why People Buy Travel Services Just to Force Themselves to Go

58:25 - Costco as the New Travel Agent: Pre-Set Trips & Big Bookings

1:02:00 - Why Eli Uses Skool for His Community (Simple & Focused)

1:04:00 - Why Communities Need a Purpose, Not Just Private Access

1:06:30 - The Kopywriting Kourse Rebrand (And Why I Miss the “KK”)

1:08:30 - Fun Coincidence: “elitravelguy” Sounds Like “Elite Travel Guy”

1:09:05 - Join the Copywriting Course to Become a Great Copywriter!

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