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Welcome to the Frontline Herbalism Podcast with your host, Nicole Rose, from the
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Solidarity Apothecary.
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This is your place for all things plants and
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liberation.
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Let's get started.
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Hello.
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Welcome back to the Frontline Herbalism
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Podcast.
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How are you doing?
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****** hell.
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I've had one thing after the next since the
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last episode,
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so I think I did the interview with Grassroots Remedies and then I recorded the intro in a
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car park during the heat wave.
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And to preserve the sound quality, I didn't have the AC on in the car and I just got
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hotter and hotter after, like, several days in a very hot static caravan.
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And, yeah, just ******* was done with heat exhaustion and, like, got out of the cafe,
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back to my car, felt really nauseous, started throwing up,
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got home, like, *******.
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Yeah, we.
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Luckily we'd moved into my mum's house because it's just, like, unlivable in the caravan.
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We've got ******* air conditioning now, though, haven't we?
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Thanks to the old baby daddy, so that's really nice.
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But, yeah. Oh, my God, I was.
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It was really awful.
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I literally felt like I was dying.
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I just kept throwing up.
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It was like being pregnant again and,
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yeah, like, scary.
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Like, I hope people are okay.
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Like, obviously, you know, I know loads about, like, public health stuff and things and it's
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like, yeah, who gets hit by the heat?
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But,
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yeah, it was really, really scary and it took me a while to recover and then I recovered and
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then because I'd been staying at my mum's house, she'd been really unwell for several
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weeks with a virus, and then I capitulated to that,
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so then I had a virus and then finally got back to work on Monday.
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Last week,
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Tuesday, my sister arrived to stay for a few weeks with her kids and I was on a Black Flag
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Herbal Clinic call and got a message like, nicole, come quickly.
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Lee's hurt him and he has basically broken his elbow falling off the side he was holding.
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The irony, he was holding a toy slide in his hand,
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so his hands weren't holding onto the slide like they should have been.
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And so he fell off the middle of it and landed on his elbow and just, like, clean fracture,
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like, broke it.
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And, yeah, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy, if I'm honest.
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Like, it's been awful.
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Just. Yeah, just seeing him in that much pain and, like, I knew, like, within seconds of
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seeing him, I was like, I know it's broken, like, because he's.
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Whenever he hurts himself, he's always, like, up and smiling, like, really Quickly
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afterwards.
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So yeah, we rushed him to A E,
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all the normal waiting.
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Finally got an X ray which was like also super
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traumatic because it was really painful for him and scary and then got a cast on,
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had to wait to find out if he'd need surgery,
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had to come back, get another cast on, go through it all again with him and like this
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time it was worse because he like knew what to expect and he wasn't sleeping very well
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because he was in like so much pain and like he's talking now so he was like sad.
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He just woke up in the middle of the night and said sad and his burst out into burst into
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tears and would just be like mummy pain pain, elbow hurting,
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arm hurting, hand hurting.
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And yeah, it's just been like.
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I think people keep replying to me being like,
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oh, kids are really resilient, it will grow back really fast.
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But yeah, like seeing the little human that you love more than any human in the world be
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in so much pain and distress and need 24 hour constant hyper vigilance because literally
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yesterday I went into the bedroom to put the blackout black out, blinds up and like he fell
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off the sofa,
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didn't he? And was like screaming in pain again.
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So it's,
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I have to get help if I want to have a shower and stuff and yeah, it's just, it's just
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unbearable seeing him like so limited.
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Like luckily now our caravan is like you know,
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nice with the, with the AC on and you know, we've got loads of stuff for him to play with
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and things but he's not able to go to nursery so that's like all my childcare support as a
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single mom.
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I'm paying my neighbour as like a childminder and she's amazing.
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But yeah, the bank balance ain't unlimited, you know what I mean?
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So it's just been really tough and as always the podcast has to kind of go down the list
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compared to like my client work and the clinic work and stuff.
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So yeah, I'm sorry but I think I had grand plans of doing like a kind of pre recorded
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series all about medicine making and I'm just not going to be able to do it.
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So I'm just here to announce that I can't do it.
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But there's a couple of other cool announcements which I'll come on to, including
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a new course that I'm teaching on.
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So I'll talk about those shortly.
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But yeah, I'm sorry, I just figured by the time I managed to actually record the medicine
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making stuff, it's going to be like ******* autumn, do you know?
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I mean, and then I need to start promoting my PTSD course.
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So it just felt like something that had to get dropped, sadly.
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So, yeah, sorry about that.
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But if you want to learn about glycerin and
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how to make the most potent, sexy, amazing, tasty, delicious, hyper effective, wonderful
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alcohol free medicines for your community,
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I am running a sale on my Making Herbal Medicine With Glycerin course.
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So it's only £20 and there is a code, which is Black Flag all cap, socks,
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caps lock.
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I never say that word properly, but basically
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it's a fundraiser for the Black Flag Herbal Clinic.
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So that's like the Free Anarchist Clinic I run, which is like, I see like a couple of
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people a week and they get the same service as people paying me in terms of,
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like, herbal support and care and free medicines.
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And it's been set up for comrades who are experiencing health issues due to, like,
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poverty, due to being involved in, like, struggle and dealing with repression and state
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violence.
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And yeah, there's an amazing little collective now, got lots of signal chats.
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There's like herbal students and people that have been studying herbalism for a long time,
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but, like, don't practise clinically in a kind of formal way.
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But yeah, just amazing environment of like, collaborative, like, learning.
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And yeah, we're gonna be launching a fundraiser with some bandanas, which I'm like
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super ******* excited about because the illustration is going to be gorgeous.
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So, yeah, so that's all in the pipeline, but for now we just need an injection of cash.
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So if anyone wants to join that workshop,
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it's ******* awesome.
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You will hear me be passionate about
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glycerites and how to make them in different ways in like a kind of cold method, just, you
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know, like infusing things in jars and then like a warm method with slow cookers.
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And you'll learn what works in glycerin, what doesn't, which constituents are better in
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glycerin,
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the role of things like he.
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Yeah, troubleshooting, like storage preservation, things like that.
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So I will put the link in the show notes, but please, please, please cheque that out.
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And the other announcement is I got invited to teach on a course,
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which is awesome.
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I love, like, guest spots if anyone ever wants
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me in your courses or memberships or whatever.
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But yeah, I was really excited about this one, so I'm gonna.
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Out of.
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Yeah, just kind of time pressure because I've only got a little bit of time in my herb shed.
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I'm going to read an email out that I sent to my email list about this course.
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But before you listen to it all,
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the ******* enrolment deadline is like, literally tomorrow, Thursday.
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Actually, you might be listening to this on the day.
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****, I'll make sure I publish this tomorrow morning, which will be today, if you're
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listening to it.
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But basically go on the website.
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They've got a countdown timer.
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You can see when it closes for enrolment.
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But it's super, super, super soon.
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Like you' have hours to do it, basically.
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But yeah, it's a really, really amazing online course.
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It's called Celtic Plant Rebellion, Resilience and reciprocity.
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What beautiful three Rs are those?
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And, yeah, their blurb is discover how plants have historically aided communities in times
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of turmoil and regrowth and how this kinship can strengthen our resilience today.
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And basically they contacted me and they were like, would you like to teach on this course?
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Blah, blah, blah.
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And I was like, I'm gonna be honest, I'm not
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like a folklore person.
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Like, I just, like.
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I don't know if I'm like, yeah.
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Anyway, I just was like, it's not my strong suit.
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If you want to know how to bandage someone up after they've been beaten by police, how to
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deal with nightmares from trauma from prison, I'm your girl.
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But I'm not like the most kind of, like, historically informed herbalist, if that makes
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sense.
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And they were like,
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no, we just love what you're doing.
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We want to support the solidarity apothecary.
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And. Yeah, so we're kind of like mixing it up, if that makes sense.
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So my session is called Remedies for Solidarity.
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And, yeah, I'm just going to ******* read the blurb.
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So throughout history,
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people have turned to plants to sustain themselves and one another through war,
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imprisonment, displacement and social upheaval.
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Together, we'll explore herbalism as a practise of mutual aid rooted in relationship,
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collective care and the plants growing within our own bioreathe region.
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Drawing on storeys from grassroots herbal projects, alongside practical approaches to
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supporting the nervous system through prolonged uncertainty and grief, we'll ask,
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what is herbal mutual aid? What can history teach us about collective
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care and what remains of herbalism when we have no equipment, no dispensary and no
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pharmacy, only ourselves,
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the plants and the relationships we build with them.
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So I still got a design.
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It's a bit of a high pitch in it, but I've still got to design my workshop, but it's on
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my August plan, so to be working on it while My baby boy is sleeping and while I get the
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odd.
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The odd childcare hour.
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But yeah, it's going to be like, linking all the kind of stuff I'm doing,
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like, or have done with the apothecary, you know, like, whether it's stuff like with the
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Ukraine project or Calais or like the Prisoner's Herbal, but, like, really
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integrating practises of, like, how can you connect with plants, like, where you are now?
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Because, like, in prison, for example, you don't have fancy equipment, you don't have
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slow cookers, you can't do percolation, you don' infused oils.
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Like, you've literally just got you and the plants and, you know, when I was speaking to
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the, like, beautiful facilitators, like, that's what I was saying,
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like, okay, I live in England and my heritages are, like, English, Welsh and Irish.
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But, like,
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you know,
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l man, like, I grew up not knowing a single plant, right?
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And I think that's the same for most kids in the uk.
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So it's like,
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how do we rebuild that relationship, you know, with these lands now, like, let alone if
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you're a settler in a different place? But, like,
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yeah.
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So anyway, I'm really ******* excited about
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it.
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And what I'm also excited about is that I get
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to listen to all the other workshops that are shared.
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So please go on the website to see the overview.
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But, like, ******* dream team of facilitators.
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I'm so excited about it.
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There's like herbal folklore sessions.
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There's sessions about kind of like, you know,
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looking at a kind of Celtic identity stuff.
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And, you know, I know that stuff gets
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interrogated a lot, but, like, more about, like, how do we live in a kind of like,
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animistic, cyclical way with plants and ecology.
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There's a session.
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I mean, how awesome does this sound?
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Like Labour Herb Storey and Plant Ballads of Rebellion.
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What do plants have to do with the advancement of workers rights,
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you know, man.
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So there's gonna be loads of, like, songs about, you know, from the Chartists, about
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plants and, you know, social change and, like, struggle and it's just gonna be awesome.
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And there's a session about, like, just like Ethnobot General and how do we sort of
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preserve knowledge?
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Lucian island is doing something about,
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like, eating disorders and colonialism and, like, relationship to, like, food.
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There's like a session,
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like, with a person who's like a songsmith, who's, like, talking about kind of like
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Scottish music and heritage and island dwellers and.
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Oh, my God, it's just gonna be lush I really feel like I've been craving like a witchy
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loving container where I can just kind of like turn my brain off and just like tap into my
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body.
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Do you know what I mean? Like, it's been hard having a baby.
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Like I don't get as much kind of like medicine making time,
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but that's a whole other episode.
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I mean, I still make loads of medicine, but
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like, compared to like pre baby life, I know when he's a bit bigger, he's gonna be like my
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right hand man and we're gonna be like doing all the fun stuff together.
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But right now he just ******* run off, wouldn't he?
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Or fall down to slide.
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No, I'm joking anyway,
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so please ******* join it.
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I'm sorry, it's not my course, so I can't
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offer a free place if that makes sense.
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But like when they shared it with me, like, I
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do think it's quite reasonably priced and there's like a payment plan,
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you know.
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I know like I offer free places on my courses
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and stuff, but like, that is an economic decision for me and I, like, I don't want to
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judge like other facilitators and stuff because I think everyone is like kind of
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different and you know, they're paying all the facilitators and stuff.
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And what's ******* snazzy is that we have an affiliate link.
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So basically when you enrol in the course, I get like 20% or something.
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25%.
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I mean, how ******* awesome is that?
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So, yeah, I'm really excited.
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Like, I think like maybe like 20 people or
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something have joined through with my code.
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But like, makes a ******* difference.
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Like I need the funds right now to like keep up all this stuff.
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So, yeah, that's a bonus.
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Like all the money will just be used for
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solidarity, apothecary things, you know, like books to prisoners and care packages to people
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experiencing state violence and sustaining the Black Flag Herbal Clinic, which is like
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hundreds of pounds a month in herbs and medicine making costs and ******* postage
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costs.
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Oh my God. Me and Royal Mail, we're like, I.
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You would just be horrified at how much I
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spend on post a month.
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It's like really extreme.
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Like, I was going through my QuickBooks before doing a bit of a, like, financial audit.
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I was just like, where's this ******* money going?
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And it's just going to Royal Mail.
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So anyway, I'm gonna stop rambling now because I have to go back to my baby boy.
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But I'm sorry, I don't know when I'm gonna be Back.
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I think hopefully his cast should be off in like three weeks.
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But I had planned to go to like, the other side of the UK for like a bit of a holiday for
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him to see his cousins.
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And I was gonna go visit my friend Kevin
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prison and stuff.
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So I'm not sure, but it is my.
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My herbalism PTSD traumatic stress course is
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coming up in September and this is a critical month where I'm building my waiting list.
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So I'm trying not to spiral and panic about losing all my childcare hours.
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I feel like I just need to, like, take it on the chin of, like, I get to spend all this
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time with my beautiful, beautiful baby boy and he's okay, you know, like, he's going to be
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fine.
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And yeah, me and his dad have always thought about encouraging him to like, learn how to
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surf and stuff, but I've been like,
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just joking, saying I'm going to push him into like getting into ******* chess because this
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has been so stressful.
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Anyway, I'm just joking.
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He can do whatever he wants.
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But yeah, okay, that was a ramble.
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Thank you for listening to me.
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Oh, yeah, sorry, I meant to say about the Rosehip Clinic as well.
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I'm still supporting my clients who I've already got packages with.
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And my dear Lee's grandma has been.
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Is coming up to help me out for a couple of days so I can catch up on clinical work.
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And my dispensing assistant is still working once a week so she can still get medicine out
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to people.
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So that's absolutely fine.
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So I haven't emailed my clients to say this
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has happened because I feel like will blink and I'll be back to work, if that makes sense.
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So it's all good.
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And my lovely, amazing admin assistant,
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Chantal will pick up my emails anyway.
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But yeah, but if you are interested in herbal care, like one to one,
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feel free to drop me an email.
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But I think I'm not going to take any new
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people on until Lee is like solidly back in nursery.
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Just because I don't want to be like a bottleneck in terms of like someone's support.
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And you know, I do spend like several hours after each call, like, planning their
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recommendations, doing extra research, like, expl.
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In quite a comprehensive protocol of like, what I think would be helpful.
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And it's like, it's very involved and that's why,
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you know, that's how I practise as a herbalist and what I'm passionate about.
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But it's just not compatible with this kind of like patchwork of childcare, if that makes
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sense.
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So anyway, I would love to work with you in the autumn.
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Hit me up.
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Please cheque out the PTSD course if you haven't seen it already.
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It's going to be launching on the the autumn equinox.
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I think it's the 22nd of September.
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Need to cheque.
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But yeah, it's an amazing online offering like self paced course all about herbal medicine
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and trauma and different types of herbs that support the nervous system.
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So yeah, please cheque that out.
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Please enrol in Celtic plant law if that floats your boat.
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I'm sure you'll love it if you're listening to this podcast.
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And yeah, thank you for listening.
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I hope you are having a good summer.
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And yeah, take care.
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Also my care packages are still going out
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because my dispensing assistant preps those.
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So please feel free to keep putting your requests like through the form for like
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grassroots groups or prisoner family members,
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sites of resistance.
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All the info is on my website, but basically,
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yeah, that stuff's still kind of like ticking on without me, which is good.
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So.
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Okay, I'm gonna stop talking now.
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All right, thanks so much for listening.
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Take care.
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Thanks so much for listening to the Frontline Herbalism podcast.
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You can find the transcript, the links, all the resources from the show at Solidarity