Brit continues her conversation with World Pennywell onto this episode of It's Brittany B!. The two talk about World's journey from the streets to time spent in prison and how he managed to change his life trajectory; obtaining multiple Masters Degrees and engineering his path to become an entrepreneur, actor, and rapper.

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Hey, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of It's Brittany B Podcast, a show where you and I go on a journey and break down subjects that most of us want to talk about, listen to, or even want to be a part of. I am your fun, pretty loving host, Brittany. And today we are having part two of our interview with World Pennywell.

So sit back, relax, and let's chat. Okay, so we went through pretty much the biography, the history of World Pennywell. Now let's talk about your music journey.

You've been working with music for a minute now.

I'm assuming since you were young, would you say that music was, like, a good, solid source of, like, comfort for you, especially with, like, the lifestyle you were living?

I would say more. So. Listening to music was more comforting for me than anything, you know, because music really talk to you. It's really you.

It can really trigger your emotions and stuff like that when you really got a good artist or whatnot. So I would say I always love music. Like, I watch the biographies of all the artists. Celine Dion, Richie Valentine, Five Heartbeats, Tiptace.

I can go all day with those. But I really love music. Like, I always. I could hear music in my, you know, my head and stuff like that. Like little beats and stuff.

And that's one of the reasons I would freestyle. But I, like I said, I never thought it was, like a career path. It wasn't until the pandemic happened and we were stuck in the house.

This is when I decided I'm gonna pursue music. So I never recorded. I never did anything but wrote raps, wrote poems in my book while I was in my cell and freestyle. I never really pursued music.

I never went to a real studio. I never recorded anything. Wow.

So during the pandemic, about three and a half years ago, I decided to go to Guitar City and just buy everything because now I have a little bit of change. I can afford to get my own equipment. So I'm like, I'm just gonna build a room in my house and make it into a studio. So that's what I did.

So then that's when I started writing music and actually pursuing it as a career. And it was more so for my entertainment company, Paper in My Pocket Entertainment, which had has movies, podcasts, and music all tied into one thing.

So the big thing being the movies, but the music was like the jumpstart because I was stuck in the house. So it was like for a whole year, I would just every day go in the studio and just make music, make music, make Music.

And then when they opened us up, I started going and finding producers and auto engineers to come through and fix it up and everything and make it. Make it sound good.

Nice. So music was the pretty much the catalyst of opening Paper in My Pocket Entertainment, which is Pimp Ent. That's pretty cool. I like that.

Pimp Ent.

So seems like you definitely accumulated a lot of knowledge, you know, through the streets and through school and through music. When did you start getting into acting?

So when I first came home from prison, you know, because I had my little muscles and stuff, I was in best shape, you know, because didn't do number workout all day. So when I came home, I started doing personal training and a lot of people kept saying, like, you look like a model. Like, you should model.

You should, you know, take some pictures. You should do that. So I, you know, at first I was just like, man, that's, you know, some pretty boy stuff.

I ain't really trying to do no model, you know, so I ain't really, like, you know, wasn't really interested in it, but I kept hearing it enough, so I was just like, let me go see something. So when I first got out of prison, I was staying in a trailer in Port Huron, and right directly across the street was Gani Vision Production.

At this time, I didn't know who Gani was. So I just seen Gani Vision Production. I seen the little camera, and I'm like, oh, let me go knock on the door and see what's up.

So I went over there and knocked on his door, and we basically became cool, you know what I mean, over time. So he started taking modeling pictures, doing modeling cars, and I started going on casting calls and stuff.

I was doing that during college because all my electives in college was all acting, improv 101, improv 102, acting 1, acting 2, theater, theater history, creative writing. So I was always interested in being an actor. Like, I used to mimic anything.

I watched karate movies, you know, chop my sisters down and everything, you know what I'm saying? Whoever came through the door, you know, it just became the movie I watched came to life.

So, yeah, shout out to Ghani Vision, though.

So that's how. That's how it. That's how the acting and, and modeling stuff started.

It just started through, like, me just basically going to the paper and like, oh, this audition or looking online. So I got hooked up with a few talent companies, and then they would call me from time to time for audition. But I ain't never getting nothing.

I Didn't understand acting. You know what I mean? Acting is more like embodying an emotion or feeling or that person. You become that person.

You have to understand that person's feelings, their moods, and what. What that character is going through and what that character is feeling and what you want to display to your audience.

So it's like I just was reading lines like, oh, I can remember this stuff so quick because I'm smart, so I could just remember the lines. So I just go in there, say my lines real quick.

And I thought that would impress them because I didn't need no paper and I wasn't reading from no script. So I never had no formal coaching. So I went to Gordon Michaels Coaching Academy. I want to say it was in like Novi or Brownstown.

It was somewhere like in the Plymouth Novi area. But Gordon Michaels is who actually start teaching me acting skills. Private lessons, one on one. I did that for like two and a half years.

So after that, like I said, you know, I continued working and hustling and doing what I was doing and going to school. So music kind of got away from me. Acting kind of got away from me until the pandemic came.

I get what you mean when you say the comprehension in that sense. Sometimes it gets scary trying to go into being that character too, depending on what you're playing and whatnot.

So you've done pretty much everything, mastering your acting.

Now you don't master acting now you know that. You know, acting is one of those things like being a doctor, you gotta constantly go to school.

Cause it's always a new thing, disease and a new medicine that you gotta learn about. So acting's the same way. Because, like, I don't think no person holds all the emotions inside of them, like every different one.

Anger, sad, mad at all times. So it's like some people actually have to go outside of their body. And it's a learning process.

So being around people like, you know, you as a character, when I was around you and the other characters from the port when we were shooting the movie, like, me seeing them bring their character, you know, taught me more stuff too, you know. Cause I'm getting game from everywhere I go. If I'm in here, I'm watching him mess with the board. If I'm with you, I'm watching you. How you doing?

Your hosting? I'm calculating all this information and seeing if I can apply it to anything in my life.

Always learning. Yeah, that's. Yes. Knowledge is power. Knowledge is power. So you are also.

Let's add this to the list, ladies and gentlemen, executive producer of the movie the Port. So now you're applying your acting to a movie that's with Gani Vision. Tell us about that.

It was a real blessing, to be honest. Me and Gani. He does all my media, all my photography, all my background. Anything you see on any of my social media sites come from Ghani.

Like, that's. That's my man. He gonna be with me to the end when it comes to this. This type of entertainment.

So he is the writer and the director of the movie the Port. So because, you know, we're doing music videos and, you know, I was around a lot, you know, you know, he expressed that to me about it.

I'm like, man, I want to be a part of that too. And he was like, bet, you know, I'll write you a character in.

So we started, like, two years ago with the, you know, production of the movie the Port, and we just now are starting to wrap things up and put the final touches on it. Should be coming out soon.

That'll be exciting. I can't wait to see that. Now, tell us about the role that you're playing.

Can we get a little bit of a hint, or do we have to keep it a little bit of a secret?

Well, for the most part, I probably should have asked the director what I care. The kid that I say to be safe, but not to give up too much and keep a little suspense so that people would actually go and watch it.

I basically kind of play myself. Like, my personality and my character in it is pretty similar to real life.

Not the actual person, but, you know, the personality, like, you know, the character I had to become. So it's basically a mafia family, and I'm one of the sons by the estranged woman, you know, the woman on the side.

So I basically become a partner in this business, and you know how I go. And in these type of movies, they.

They spin, twist and turn and give you everything you want, from drama to murder to, you know, suspense and whatever you need, it's gonna give you that fix. I can almost guarantee that. So y' all make sure y' all look out for that.

Sounds like it's gonna be a really good movie. So, yeah, we'll definitely keep an eye out for that.

Now, with everything that you've done, I can't even imagine that you have, like, a personal life outside of what you do, but do you have a personal life outside of everything? And if you do, what's it like?

I mean, yeah, I mean, artists and you know, actors, they all got families. You know, we got kids, families, you know, we got normal everyday stuff just like anybody else.

It's just that we have, like, a third and fourth gear, so it's like, we don't really get content with, you know, stuff that, you know, a lot of people would, you know, just having a good job and, you know, family got food on the table and, you know, roof over your head and clothes on your back. A lot of people settle for that as, you know, getting by.

So it's like certain people want to, you know, they feel like they have to, like, be up 20 hours a day to accomplish, like, their visions in their brain and, like, what they want to manifest out their life. So. And for me, I got to work extra hard because I already got them. Them strikes on me from when I was 18. So, you know, they don't.

They don't come off you. So you gotta, like. I gotta do extra work, you know, to even get a shot.

And with you constantly learning, getting all the degrees and stuff, I mean, it seems like you're doing a great job. How do you. How do you balance that?

I mean, it's a. You know, it's just one of those things where you just. So what I do is this, like, every year I try to learn something new.

This year I'm trying to learn how to make beats. Far as for the music part of my business. And then, like, as an actor, you know, part of. I wanted to be executive producer.

You know, I wanted to be a part of it, you know, help out with it, have, you know, a small say so in the film.

So it's like everything that I'm already doing, I'm just trying to find ways to, like, better that or increase that or make that, you know, more prosperous.

Yeah, well, okay, so the ladies are gonna watch this. They're gonna see that you are a very handsome, attractive man.

Thank you.

You're welcome. Are you currently in a relationship? And if you are, how do you balance that?

Well, I don't really believe in, like, traditional relationships. So I'm not a traditional relationship type of guy. But I'm not in no relationship because I don't believe in relationship standards.

Have my own standards that, you know, that I apply. And they don't work for everybody. So, you know, I don't want to get nobody no game. They don't really deserve, you know, game is to be sold, not told.

But I don't. No, I don't really believe in traditional relationships or whatnot. Like, I'm like a 70s baby.

I guess you would say I'm like a hippie in relationships. I just feel like you shouldn't really close yourself off to, like, limit yourself to, like, one person.

So it's like, if I'm vibing and bonding with you, like, we're benefiting growing me and you. I can also do that same thing with. With other women.

Like, so there's not, like, just because you only have a limited amount of resources and knowledge and benefits that you can bring to the table. If I got a table full of benefits and resources and stuff, you know, then it's. It's like a collective bargaining typ thing for me.

The way I would kind of put is like, I'm not gonna ever, like, stop myself to like. Like. I think love is kind of cliche. You know what I mean?

So it's like you love basically people that do stuff for you, you know, so you love your mother and your father, if you had a mother and a father, because they take care of you, you know, put food on the table, you know, they take. You know, they're there to protect you. You know, you love your girl for basically the same reasons. You know, they go to work, you know, they.

You know, they got your back. At least they supposed to. So it's like you're loving them for the benefits that they're applying.

Just like if your mom or dad didn't love you or beat you or talked down to you or left you or abandoned you, you probably would have a bitter feeling. It's the same way relationships. Relationship don't work out. What happened? Be sad, feeling bad, disappointed, crazy. Yeah.

Like, that's because you put all your energy into one person.

Yeah.

And the energy, if they can't give it back, it's very, very rare that you find a soulmate. That's what I would say.

I know I'm starting to lose somebody.

If I find one, you know, I go ahead and do. Do what I gotta do about it, you know, make sure I secure that period. But it's very, very rare that you find someone of a, like, soul like yourself.

Yeah. They don't just make a hundred Britneys, you know, they don't make a hundred world Peas. Might be one that's compatible.

Yeah. Society might need to stop with that soulmate thing. You're right. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, that is a good way to view it. Because love makes me crazy.

At least when I think about it. It makes everybody crazy.

Yeah.

Because we are doing it incorrectly. That's my motto. Like we're loving incorrectly.

What do you mean by that?

That's what I'm saying. Like you putting energy into people. Like love gotta be earned.

Like people come to the relationship and you know, they get that poom, poom put on them or they get that tang tang put on you. And then now their emotions are being channeled by the benefit.

Yeah.

Or the man or the woman bringing the bag to the table. So now that's the security, it's the benefit. So is your love really pure or is it situational?

Right. Cause if it goes away, are you still gonna be here?

And you know how it is. When I went to prison, they all was gone.

Yeah.

Like all the young ladies, that was, you know, world this, world that they. No letters, no pictures, you know, I ain't come home to no parties or nothing, you know. So love changes if the situation change. Yeah.

I mean, think about it. My grandparents were married 32 years, got a divorce, remarried for another 40 years. So it's like, you get what I'm saying?

Like you can find love multiple times. But if he just closed himself off after that and just didn't look no more. But that means he had two soulmates, correct?

Yeah.

Because he spent 30 with one and another 40 with another. So that's basically like two soulmates. You gave 30 years of your life to a person that you connected with.

And people evolve. They're always changing. So. Yeah, that makes sense.

So that's why I said traditional relationships don't work. Because as you growing and your mind growing and your desires and your. If your man ain't growing, what happened? Now it's a distance.

Then a person like me come in, doo doo doo doo. And next thing you know, now you got love drunk. You know, now you love's hurt. You know, you sitting back feeling bad.

Cause now the relationship didn't work. Cause you was pouring into something that couldn't pour back into you.

Yeah, yeah.

So that's just really what it is with me. But there's soulmates out there. There's people that find they even yoke. It's rare.

Cause if you look around at your peers that's been married, a lot of them been divorced or they unhappy.

Yep.

So it's like I can hit you. Is that really a win?

No.

You got married but got a divorce. You got married but you're not happy. Is that really a win? Love don't win in those situations.

No, it doesn't.

Nah, they don't win in those situations.

Definitely sounds one sided. I know for Myself, I'll look at other people and then I'll be like, yeah, I'm glad I'm not in a relationship.

Then I look at my own marriage and I was like, yeah, I'm glad I left. So it's very discouraging when you see that it turns out to be that way, because love is.

My mother and father, they were married, not together, but my mother eventually found her a man and got married, and so did my father, found him a woman and got married, but they both ended in divorce as well.

You know, so maybe that may have something to do with my psyche as well as the ism that I, you know, hold tight to me might have something to do with it. Not to mention, I do know sociology and psychology, so I kind of know how to read people.

And it's like, people are never who they actually say they are. They're never this blunt. They're scared. They're fear their emotions. They're worried about what people think think about them.

So you're not really getting a real version of a person. Takes a long time, about a year, year and a half, to really knock down some of those walls on most people.

Yeah, that's. Yeah, that's got. It's nerve wracking thinking about it that way. Oh, wow. That was a whole new insight on love that I never even thought.

Even thought of.

I mean, I ain't know I was gonna say it. It just, you know, the question led me there.

Yeah, yeah. Now I'm gonna be walking out, having a new perspective on life. Like, you know what? I could have more than one soulmate.

Because you only think that there's only one. You find that person and that's it. It's like, oh, okay, now with today's world, how do you feel as a man?

In today's world, my previous episode, I talked about how modern day feminism is, like, I personally believe, ruining America and ruining the. The masculine of a man. Do you side with some of the things western feminism says?

I mean, the best I could say, I agree with you. Like, I, I think it's, it's way too much. You know, there has to be boundaries and there's hierarchies.

Like, a woman can still be the head of her household and still be a boss, you know, and still get a bag and all that, you know, and still, you know, be a lady at the same time. Like, it doesn't absolutely. You don't have to separate it. You know, you could take care of your kids, cook, clean, take care of your man.

And you know, go to the office and take care of business. It shouldn't be separated. And woman shouldn't try to be a man and a man shouldn't try to be a woman. Like we are what God made us.

So we are who we are.

And if you're a woman, you know, there's certain things, you know, it's the reason why you was able to give birth, you know, for the nurturing side of you, you know, it's not something that was given to a man. So to be able to take care of a kid, you gotta cook, you gotta clean. You get what I'm saying?

So these are just common things that I think, you know, are being lax, you know, daycare and you know, other people are raising the kids nowadays.

You know, when I was, when I was younger, all the kids went to the aunties or the grandma house or the next door neighbors, but we was all with family because they was family too. It wasn't, you know, people wasn't separated. Mom and dad wasn't gone all day. And now the economy calls for that.

You both have to go to work and get some money or one person gotta have the skills to get to the bag. If one person can't get to the bag by theyself, it has to become a team effort. It's just really that simple. So.

But that doesn't mean you lose the traditional values of man and woman.

Yeah, and I feel like we are losing that a lot. I like masculine men. I think, like, look, you're the man of the household, I'll take care of the kids. Yep. Still go to work if, you know, if needed.

But, but it's changing the dynamic of how I feel like even kids are being raised. Boys are being viewed as men are not anything.

And then women, girls are viewed like, I can do anything in this world, but if a man does, or if a boy does that, like my daughter has a girl empowerment group in her school, but there's no boy empowerment in the school. So it's like, how, how do you have that mind frame to grow as a boy into a man if you don't even have that kind of support?

Well, I mean, if you look back on history, at one point in time there was a big gap, you know, there was a big gap between man and women, but that gap has been closed and now it started to like morph into like, you know, eating men up, you know what I'm saying? To the point where men are even, you know, they have to hold their tongue.

They can't speak, they can't say what they want to say because, you know, social media or, you know, their peers and cut them down because it's a woman's world now. No longer a man's world.

You know, no man, James Brown would be disappointed in that man. He'd be like, what?

There are women that are men at their house. So I want to make sure I make that clear, you know, like my mother, she was a single parent mother. There wasn't a man there.

So until I became a man and I had the knowledge and the skills to be a man, then, you know, I can't run that household. You know, she had to be the man, the protector, the provider, you know, and do the things. My mom fixed stuff.

She cooked food, went to work, worked three jobs, like, so I ain't got no excuse for no woman, you know, not in today's society. Cause I watched my mother do everything. And she did it well with pride, you know what I mean? So she didn't complain much about. About it.

You know, she got up, worked three jobs, came home, cooked full meals, breakfast, lunch, and dinner, you know, cleaned the house, went grocery shopping, paid all the bills, went to school, argued with the principal. For me, like she was the man of the house.

And so you learned a lot from her based off what you were just saying? You were just mentioning that about yourself.

Yeah. So if my mom if that, if I expect that from her and she was able to do that and accomplish that, that's the same thing.

You know, I look at like she was the man of her house. So every household is set up differently, but just coming in the household like, you know, the woman is the man of the house, like that don't.

That don't work like that. That's not how it's supposed to be. Yeah, in my opinion. Make sure I make that clear.

Now, do you have any future projects coming up?

Yes, I do. I just dropped a video. A little understanding. It's on all social media platforms and YouTube and I got an album called.

I think I'm gonna go with Macalicious or, you know, I might go with Pimps and Dancing Hyenas. I got a few names. I'm still.

Those are two good ones.

Yeah, I'm still jugging them around a little bit, but I'm hoping to drop it in the spring. So that's a new project. And then the port, which we working on that, that should be dropping very soon. I want everybody to go check that out.

But if anybody want to check any of my stuff out. World Pennywell on all social media sites. It's willpennywell junior on Facebook and worldpennywell.com my website.

Y' all can get free music, and hopefully you'll be able to find the port on your favorite streaming site soon. You know?

Yeah, I can't wait for that. Well, World, it has been such an honor for you to be on the show.

You are a very, very spectacular human being with everything that you've gone through. It's very inspirational. Very inspirational. And I can't wait to see how far you're gonna go. And I think it's gonna be very far.

So thank you for being here.

Thank you for having me.

All right, everybody, that was another episode of It's Brittany B Podcast, a show where you and I go on a journey and talk about things that, you know, most people want to talk about. And now people coming in and talking. I'm your host, Brittany, and thank you. Have a great day.