In this episode of No Shame in Our Game, Sara and Lacey do a different kind of “Year Wrapped.” Instead of focusing on goals you did or didn’t hit, they look at the invisible work that got carried all year long—laundry, meals, naps, school emails, dog walks, caregiving, and everything in between.

They also walk through the Joyful Support “Wrapped” for 2025 and talk honestly about how they want the next year to feel, without the pressure of “New Year, New You.”

What we talk about in this episode

1. A cozy year-in-review conversation recorded with Lacey in bed and Sara in reindeer antlers
2. A “home and life Wrapped” that counts real work: dishes done, diapers changed, naps coordinated, emails handled, dog poop picked up
3. How to look at invisible labor as evidence of care, not as a reason to feel bitter or behind
4. Our Joyful Support 2025 Wrapped:
5. 13 No Shame in Our Game episodes
6. 9 Sharing the Middle episodes
7. 9 Joy Moments episodes
8. Rebranding No Shame in the Home Game → No Shame in Our Game
9. Launching the Joy Moments podcast
10. Revamping our newsletter into The Practical Hug
11. Why “New Year, New You” language doesn’t sit right for us
12. Using a word or intention for the year as a gentle guide instead of a rigid resolution
13. Lacey’s progression from Joy → Ease → (maybe) Expand and how that’s showing up in real life
14. Sara’s “just in case” preparedness energy and Lacey’s nap logistics superpower
15. Behind the scenes of working with chronic illness, caregiving, and still choosing ways to show up that feel doable

Key takeaways

1. You probably did far more this year than your calendar, camera roll, or social feeds show. That work counts.
2. A “Wrapped” for your home and life can help you see what you carried, not just what you crossed off.
3. You do not need to become a “new you” to start a new year; you can stay you and adjust your intentions, support, and systems.
4. Picking a word or intention can be as simple as noticing what doesn’t feel good right now and asking what you want more of instead.

Mentioned in this episode

1. Follow Joyful Support Movement on Instagram: Joyful Support Movement on Instagram ( @joyfulsupportmovement )
2. Subscribe to The Practical Hug newsletter on Substack: The Practical Hug newsletter on Substack
3. Join the Joyful Support Village community: Join the Joyful Support Village community
4. Visit the Joyful Support Movement website: Joyful Support Movement main website

Come Tell Us!

1. Take a minute to imagine your own “Year Wrapped” for invisible labor. What would you be in the top 1% for this year?
2. Choose (or start playing with) an intention word for the coming year.
3. Share it with us:
4. Inside the Joyful Support Village community: Share your intention word inside the Joyful Support Village
5. Or on Instagram / Threads – tag @joyfulsupportmovement and tell us:
6. Your intention word
7. What doesn’t feel good right now
8. What you hope will feel different next year

Welcome to No Shame in Our Game where Self-Help meets community support.

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I am Lacey, your co-host, who is

recording in bed today here with

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our very festive co-host, Sarah.

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Hi Sarah.

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Sara: Hi Lacey.

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for those of you listening and not

watching, I'm wearing reindeer antlers.

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And fun story.

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Sometimes I wear these around when

I'm driving, but I'll forget and then

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they'll, they'll bump the roof of my

car, so I have to like tilt them down.

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but it makes me happy.

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I mean, this is the only time of year

that you can do this and not seem crazy.

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Question mark.

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Lacey: I feel like there's

gotta be a moose holiday that

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you might be able to get.

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Sara: Okay, now I'm thinking.

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Just so you know, I had

several to choose from.

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I had an elf hat, I

had some LightUp bulbs.

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I had several different options.

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I was just feeling the antlers, but

it's kind of hard to get them all

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in the, in the little window floppy.

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Lacey: I love how floppy they are.

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They're like floppy and not

floppy at the same time.

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It's amazing.

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well, Sarah and I are recording this.

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A week before Christmas.

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we're, we're getting close, but we're

gonna talk about our year wrapped and

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looking into 2026 in this episode.

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Before we jump into anything,

though, I am gonna reference last

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week's joy moments because I need

you all to know how much fun I had.

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Editing Sarah's solo episode and you

were a little, down on yourself about

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the solo episode, and I just need it

to be on the record in the world that

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I thought it was a fantastic episode.

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I loved listening and watching to it.

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I smiled the whole time.

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I had a blast.

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So just shout out to Sarah.

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Sara: you, Lacey.

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Yes.

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I just, I, I know that I do so much

better with you because it keeps

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me more playful I'm by myself.

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I can go into like very serious teacher

mode and it just, it's more playful

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when you, I like to play with you.

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It's more fun.

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It's more fun with friends.

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you.

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Lacey: It is, it is.

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and I love that I've gotten

to continue my fault.

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I don't know if I wanna call it

a fake feud, but my like fake

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outrage at bird people or birders,

whatever you wanna call 'em.

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it's been a lot of fun for me.

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Sara: this is a real time reveal

and this is, this is deep inside.

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For those of you who are all in

JSM, the Practical Hug Newsletter.

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Referenced that bird episode.

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Well, joy moment.

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Sorry, it was not a bird episode.

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The bird situation in the joy moments.

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And we have a photo every week of

an animal, and Lacey picked it.

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And then when I read the newsletter,

it was all a surprise to me.

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And I'm looking at this picture

and I'm reading the caption.

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And I had to I had to like control

myself 'cause Lacey said, here's

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a hawk sitting on a lamppost.

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And I was like, that is not a hawk.

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And then I thought to myself,

don't worry, this gets better.

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I thought to myself, okay.

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I'm not gonna be that bird person.

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not gonna be that bird person.

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And then there was footnotes.

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And in the footnotes, Lacey said,

I know this isn't a hawk and

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I know this isn't a lamppost.

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And I was like, you got

me, you fully got me.

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So I was laughing so

hard at, at the ribbing.

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yeah, I, I own it.

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I am that annoying bird person.

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I totally own it.

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Lacey: If there's anything that I know,

it's that a bird person cannot stand for a

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bird being wrongly identified, blatantly,

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like if it's close, that's fine,

but it was clearly an owl and I saw

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it and I was like, this is amazing.

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Then I see.

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Well, so I gotta be honest,

this, the pictures are mostly

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just for me to make Sarah laugh.

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Like I go through and I search things

all the time to me, and I think,

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okay, Lisa's gonna make Sarah laugh.

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And I searched for Hawk on a

lamppost, like, okay, what can I find?

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And that came up and I was

like, that's not a hawk.

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And then I was like, perfect.

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It was an L, but then it did say.

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Owl Hawk and I'm like, wait,

is there some kind of cross

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hybrid situation going on here?

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And I did have this moment of how

awesome would it be if it was some

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kind of hawk owl and people got

to correct me in my correction.

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That would've been fun.

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Sara: And one more.

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One more Si.

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One.

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We're gonna keep this going and then

we'll, I promise we'll break this off.

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Lacey told me that my joy moments about

the bird got a lot of traction on TikTok.

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And I am not on TikTok, but I was

like, oh, I had like my first legit

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like, oh, should I be on TikTok?

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Talk to other bird people.

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So for the record, if anything's

gonna get me on TikTok, it's

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gonna be for bird people.

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Now what?

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Now?

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I wanna change my handle again.

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Ultimate burden nerd.

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I promise, I promise to you,

listeners, if you've made it

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this far, we will switch topics.

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Lacey: I do like the idea of, either

a special episode or like series

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where it's just you loving birds

and me not loving birds, like,

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Sara: It makes me very happy.

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That makes me very happy.

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Yes.

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2026.

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do

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Lacey: yeah.

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Sara: that.

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well I'm excited because I'm gonna

take over Lacey's role right here.

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I'm just excited 'cause I feel like

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Lacey: Go for it.

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Sara: little bit of a look back

and a look forward and I feel

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like that's so important when

we're, we're making goals, right?

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It's not always about looking forward.

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It's actually looking

back and looking forward.

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And so I'm like so excited.

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Lacey, I'll let you take it from here.

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Lacey: Well, this idea started

from Spotify wrapped, right?

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Everybody puts their Spotify wrapped.

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I use Apple Music, so mine's

a little bit different.

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also mine is all kids

songs because my son.

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And went to sleep listening to a demon,

K-pop, demon hunter song every single

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night over and over again for months.

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So that was the number one song.

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It had nothing to do with me anyway.

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It also was really funny 'cause you

could see by the month what we were

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consuming and what my kids were into.

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but now, but yeah, so, Sarah saw a thread

of, of somebody talking about how many

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dishes washed and whatnot, and I, she was

like, we need to make something for this.

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So I did, I made some

templates for people.

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We've got, fabric fortress,

number of laundry done.

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home plate count meals you cooked at home.

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Instead of getting the takeout,

you really wanted digital dread

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score, boring emails read and sent.

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That one makes me giggle.

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we've got some specific parents of ones.

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the biohazard mitigation.

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tally.

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That's diaper changes or messes cleaned.

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And then I, this is what I

want us to talk about Sarah.

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Part of it is you were in the top 1% of

adults for blank with blank this year.

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So like you were in the top 10%

of adults who did laundry with

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5,438 loads or something like that.

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What, what would we be in the top 1% of?

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Sara: Working moms.

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also have three podcasts?

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Lacey: See mine is NAP Logistics to

top 1% of figuring out NAP logistics.

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With 457 naps taken

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Sara: wait, is that your naps or violet's?

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Naps.

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Lacey: everyone, all the naps,

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Sara: oh, oh.

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All.

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All the.

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Lacey: I'm always thinking about

everyone's naps schedule and when

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naps can and should be taken.

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Sara: mine personally would be, I

say the term just in case a lot.

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So I would say I would be

in the top, what'd you say?

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1% or 10%?

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Lacey: 1%.

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Sara: in the top 1% of

preparing for things that may

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happen, but don't ever happen.

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I, I, I just keep preparing like,

well, just in case we'll bring

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this, just in case we'll bring this.

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So I would go with top just in case.

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prepare if you, if you ever need

anything, and I am in, I am in earshot.

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ask me, do you have a decongestion?

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I sure do.

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Do you have a Kleenex?

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I sure do.

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Do you have a nail filer?

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I sure do.

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Do you have tweezers?

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Yep.

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Do you have jumper cables?

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Yep.

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I sure do.

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Like if you, if you ever need

anything and I'm around, ask me.

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There's a 99% chance I have it.

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Lacey: This is a beautiful difference

between you and I where like

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people bring like giant diaper

bags places and I'm like, do we

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have one diaper and a set of wipes?

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Let's go.

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Like I.

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Sara: It takes, it takes all

type of people, and I don't think

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one is right and one is wrong.

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I think it's just who we are inherently.

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And what's cool about this show and

what we're celebrating right here

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with this example is it all works out.

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There's no one way you gotta do what works

for you and what feels right for you.

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And it feels good for me be prepared

for 1,500 scenarios that might unfold.

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Bandaids got 'em.

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Lens wipes, got 'em.

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Like my girlfriend who was just

here, she travels with a phone and

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then attached to her phone case

is her ID and her credit card, and

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that's all she walks around with.

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And it makes my chest tight.

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How little she cares around with.

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I'm like, what if you need a cough drop?

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Lacey: She and I are, are, are our

soul sisters in that one because

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if I can get away with not carrying

a purse, I don't carry a purse.

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No.

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yeah.

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No, thank you.

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Sara: feel

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Lacey: Not for me.

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Sara: ding-dong naked without, ask

me sometime about the time I pooped

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in the woods and I made it work

because of what I had on hand with me.

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So.

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Lacey: I gotta be honest, between

you and Alex, we have talked about

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pooping in the woods way more than I

ever thought we would just in life.

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Sara: Back on track.

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So yes, I saw this on Threads.

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A mom was talking about her wrapped

list as a home, like a mom or a home

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manager, whatever term you wanna use.

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And I thought that is so beautiful

because there's been more

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and more talk in sys in just.

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What do you call societal conversations

about the invisible labor?

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And love the, I love the thought of this,

and it could easily turn into sort of

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a bitter, angry, like I've done 5,000

loads of dishes or whatever, but it can

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also be a celebration This is all the

things I've done because I care about

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my home and my family and how it feels.

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And it can, it can truly be a celebration.

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there's a way to look at it in a,

through a very negative bitter lens.

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And there's a way to look at it

through like a very uplifting

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and lighthearted levity lens.

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So I am excited.

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I would love for this to become a tool

that people could use to feel, because

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especially, you know that whole thing

when people are like, what'd you do today?

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And everyone and moms nothing.

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Did you really do nothing?

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Or did you do five loads of laundry,

make two meals open 500 letters

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from the school, and also vacuum?

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Like, did you really do nothing or

did you do a bunch of those things?

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Lacey: I also think it's a way to

recognize those who are shown up.

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So like in my household, like I could

very easily say I've done four dish.

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I've done more than four dishes.

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Hi Joe.

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I'm about to give you a shout out.

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All right, love you.

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Sorry.

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Violet napping.

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See napping Logistics.

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I'm not even there and

I'm involved anyway.

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Joe does our dishes and

Joe does, our laundry.

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So I would have the joy of putting

a very low number in those, which

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shows how awesome my husband is.

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So the inverse can be true.

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Sara: And I mean, this could be, yeah,

this could be a wrap sheet for the whole

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family to look at what did the kids

contribute, what did the grandparents

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contribute like, How many packages

did your neighbors pick up for you?

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I mean, this could be like a whole

community thing, just to see how

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much, how much work is being done.

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I think it's a celebration tool.

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Lacey: yeah, my kids have been doing

chores very well every day after school,

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and so I'm wondering if maybe we have

like a little chore wrap up and I think

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they would think that's really cool.

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Sara: Oh my gosh.

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Okay.

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Not that I'm gonna do this 'cause it

sounds like more work, but wouldn't

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it be fun too than to have like,

you know, like employee of the year.

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You could have, you could have

like little awards for everybody.

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I don't know what that looks like.

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Just verbal maybe.

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So you don't have to give more work

to yourself, but that would be fun.

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Lacey: Yeah, 'cause Isaac would be

our dish, put her aware of the year.

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whereas Iris would be the mom

mugs go to the office because

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my coffee station is upstairs.

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So she often brings the mug up, mugs

up here, and she would be the mug.

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Magician Master of the Year.

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Oh, I already have 'em down.

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We're gonna make them.

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Let's, I can do that.

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Sara: I think, yeah, I think

this is a great time to celebrate

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and lift others up and like.

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Let's focus on what's working.

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That's what this is.

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One of the things I say all the time is

it's easy to see what's not working well.

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Let's focus on all those

things that did get done.

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I would like to have a count for

how many piles of dog poop I've

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picked up this year because I am

still the person who does that.

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And funny side story, it's, we've got

all this snow on the ground, of snow.

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And my dog, she's originally from Florida,

so I, I swear she still just wants

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it to be hot and sunny all the time.

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she pooped on my driveway because

there was snow on the, like, where

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she would normally go to the bathroom.

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We have plowed snow paths in the

backyard, but she was in the front

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yard, so she pooped on the driveway.

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And I was like,

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Lacey: I can't really fault her,

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Sara: I

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Lacey: you know, like

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Sara: it just

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Lacey: it's outside.

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Sara: just blew my mind that

she pooped on the driveway.

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But I, I picked that up because

I didn't wanna drive over it.

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So I would like to have, I would like

to have an acknowledgement of how much

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poop I've picked up this past year.

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Lacey: Mean, I would love to hear a

number here 'cause like, what is it,

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four times, how many times a day?

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Sara: So,

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Lacey: the number of days.

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Sara: yeah.

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So it's one to two seven, so that would

be seven to 14 times 52 weeks a year.

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Can you do that?

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Lacey: it's like in four fifties.

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Sure.

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It's way more than that, but.

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Sara: think that's, yeah, I

just, yeah, that would be fun.

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Like I kind of, I'm excited about this.

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Funny side note too, we're

all about side notes today.

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the Spotify rap.

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Spotify thinks my 13-year-old son is 46.

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I'm 46, that's because,

and I'm so proud of this.

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I have made him, listen, he's really

into hip hop and I've made him listen

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to nineties hip hop, so rightfully so.

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Spotify thinks my son is 46 and

I am so proud and no, it's not

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being blurred with my information.

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'cause he has his own Spotify,

he has his own Spotify, so I'm

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not influencing that at all.

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Like with what I'm listening to.

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Lacey: That is, that is

something there, isn't it?

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Do we, Think of any for no shame.

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I mean, one big, we did a rebrand

of No Shame From No Shame in the

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Home Game to No Shame in our game.

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That's a A wrapped from this year.

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Sara: Yes.

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Lacey: Oh, I can tell you

how many episodes we've had.

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That's actually a,

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Sara: Oh

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Lacey: do that right now.

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Sara: For no shame.

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Lacey: Well, I can do 'em for all of them.

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We also launched an epi or

a podcast this month, year.

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Sara: You know what, Lacey, I don't

think we celebrate ourselves enough.

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Lacey: We don't, I'm realizing

as I'm talking, I'm like, wow.

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We, we do a lot.

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Sara: I had a girlfriend while

you're looking, I'll tell a story.

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I had a girlfriend over the other day and

we were catching up after not seeing each

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other for a few months and she was asking

about all the things going on in my world.

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And at one point she's like, wow, a lot.

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And I was like, yeah, it really

takes somebody from the outside

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looking, to, to, to help like

hold up that mirror and remind me.

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Yeah, that is a lot that's going on.

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Lacey: So we've done 13

episodes of No Shame.

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Sara: This year.

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Lacey: This year, and then

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nine episodes of sharing the middle.

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That had a big break

because of my pregnancy.

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Honestly, we took some time off

because of, you know, I had a baby.

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So there's that.

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And then nine episodes of Joy Moments.

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Sara: Yay.

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Lacey: Yeah,

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Sara: That's exciting.

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Lacey: produced over 30

episodes of a podcast this year.

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Sara: And when Lacey says we, she

really means her because let's be

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honest, I'm not the tech person.

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La Lacey produced, I showed

up for half of those.

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Lacey, Lacey made them, come to the world.

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So Lacey is our producer.

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Lacey: Thank you.

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Sara: I'm

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Lacey: Thank you very much.

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Sara: be in the talent,

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Lacey: You are.

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Sara: I'll be in the talent,

what do you call those?

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The trailers.

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I'll be in the talent trailer

just putting on my antlers.

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Come get me when we're ready.

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Lacey: but we launched right

joy moments, we rebranded.

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No shame in our game.

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We, retooled and revamped the

newsletter to be the practical hug,

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which I love sending every week.

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I love sending the

practical hug every week.

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so yeah, we've, we've been doing

a lot over here, haven't we?

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Sara: We have, and I'm showing

up locally, in my community.

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of this, this has all been virtual

based, but I am trying something out

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new, something new where I'm writing for

a local publication and then I'm gonna

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hold my first person event in January.

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So I love that we keep evolving

I'm really proud of us, Lacey.

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Lacey: I'm too because I think we

have continued to do what feels good

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and for us to be able to show up

authentically and all that stuff.

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and that has been really nice.

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Sara: Yes.

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should we look forward, help, help our

listeners look forward into the new year?

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Lacey: Sure.

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Sara: Do you, do you

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Lacey: Sure.

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Sara: either resolutions

or words of intention?

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Do you do either of those?

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Lacey: So for the past two years,

I've picked a word for the year that

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like encompasses what I am going for.

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so my word for 2025 was ease.

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My word for 2024 was joy.

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and so it just kind of shows when I'm

like, it's the background on my stuff.

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Like, I mean, ease.

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So my background, you know, just

me trying to channel that, focus

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that on, you know, all that stuff.

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but I do have a beef with

resolutions a little bit.

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I love a goal, let me just break it down.

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I love a goal.

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I love a fresh start.

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Like give me a Monday

to start something new.

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Give, you know what I mean?

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So yes, I love the idea of starting

something new in the new year.

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I don't like people telling me what to do.

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And that's what I think New Year's

resolutions feel like for me

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is like, you, it's a new year,

so you should be doing this.

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And I'm like, don't tell me what to do.

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I also don't like the new year.

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New you, like no new year.

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Same you.

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You don't need to reinvent yourself.

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So just those kinds of things.

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I have a complicated relationship.

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Sara: Those all make sense to

me and not surprised at all.

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Yeah, I, I stopped doing

resolutions a long time ago, but

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I like the phrasing of intention.

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Pointing yourself in one direction.

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I got, I'm, I'm using a new paper

planner this year and there is some

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like quarterly intention that I've never

been inspired to do before, but this

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year I'm realizing that if we don't

focus our intention, then things get

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very scattered and I'm ready to a little

less scattered, like make, like making

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choices that line up with that intention.

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I don't know what my word, I don't know

what my word is yet, or my intention.

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I will say a goal for Support is

to have sponsors for our podcasts.

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And that is, will be one of my intentions.

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It is one of my intentions for 2026.

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So shout out to all you listeners.

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If you know of anybody.

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We have a three-tiered options

of sponsoring the podcasts.

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so if you have anybody who would like

to be a part of spreading more joy

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into the worlds, direct them to us.

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Oh wait, if people wanna do those

wrapped sheets, where do they go?

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Lacey: I'll put 'em on our Instagram.

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Oh, and I will, I'll put two versions.

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I'll put the, like categories that

I've already done, but then I'll

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have completely blank ones if people

wanna put in their own as well.

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but yeah, see now I'm thinking of what

my year you, because like ease, I can

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see how ease has been throughout my year.

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especially.

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With what I wrote yesterday in the

practical hug about joy, making

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things feel easy when they're not.

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And so like, isn't that such a

beautiful, like progression from

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joy to ease and my, like my brain

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That's what came to my mind.

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So we'll see.

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Right.

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Sara: Yes.

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I really liked what you said in

the newsletter yesterday about,

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I can't remember how you said it.

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Pushing a 12 foot tree through

a door isn't necessarily

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easy, but the joy makes it.

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The joy makes it easier.

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Yeah.

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The way you said it, I just butchered

it, but the way you said it really hit

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home for me, and I completely agree.

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And I think that's what we are doing

with joyful support all around it's,

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it's looking, I feel like I'm saying,

I'm saying the same thing, but

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then I'm gonna loop it into looking

forward, like how does it feel?

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How do you want it to feel?

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Then lining up with that with

your actions and intentions.

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And so something I'm gonna

share with the audience is if,

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if you, gosh, I really, oh man.

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I like wanna, I wanna, I always wanna help

people, like I want a room full of people.

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I wanna do like a big zoom room

where people can say what their

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intention is and then we can offer

one of our tools or worksheets

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that will support that intention.

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So like with ease.

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Right hand over the good,

better, best tool to people.

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Be like, great.

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When something starts to feel

too hard, pick up the good,

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better, best tool, you know?

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And like being able to use all of

these things to support your intention.

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Sorry, I got really

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Lacey: Absolutely

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Sara: and then I went in like

five different directions.

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Lacey: no, but I think that's a good

prompt for the village for us to

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put in there of like, what is your

intention for the upcoming year and how

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can we help you here in the village?

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What re resources do we

already have or could we make?

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I think, I think, the, I'm, I'm really

liking the word expand because one of

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my favorite things to do and one of

Sarah's favorite things to do is to

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create these things and like having

that expand mindset is great 'cause

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it creates space for all of that.

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So we would love to expand

our resources and help.

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Sara: So call out to everybody listening

if you want to share your intention word.

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And if you are looking for resources,

you can either become a friend of the

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village, and come share it in there.

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Tag us on social media, joyful

support movement, you're not alone.

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This is, this is self-help

with community support.

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So if you're not even sure what

you want your intention were

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to be, we can brainstorm that.

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And I would say start with

what doesn't feel good as your

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point of your starting point.

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And then kind of look at what,

what intentions would help you

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grow out of that discomfort point.

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, Lacey: Well I'm, I'm about to

like take a step back we've talked

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before about how the self-help space

often gives Sarah and I the ick.

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And I think New Year's is a

time where it really explodes

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'cause everybody's trying to make

themselves better and dah, dah, dah.

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I want to, be clear that our space is

a space for that, but it's also a space

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for you to be whoever you are right now.

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We want, joyful support to be maybe.

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I don't wanna say the Mel Robbins

rejects, but the people who are like, I

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guess this is, isn't resonating with me.

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Or maybe you read it because

you felt like you should and

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it just wasn't working for you.

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she's just the big name

in self-help right now.

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I'm not knocking her

or anything like that.

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I just, I wanna make sure

we're clear about, about what

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we hope to offer in this time.

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Sara: I remember being given a copy of

Marie Kondo's book, what was that called?

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Lacey: The magic of tidying up or

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Sara: Which I still

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Lacey: whatever.

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Sara: And I think it's a great, and I,

I really, I think it's a great approach.

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I think it's, I think she does great work.

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I really.

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Enjoy it, but it just didn't

feel quite right to me.

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For some people it was exactly the

tool they needed, and I definitely

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took away some things from it.

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And have incorporated that into my life.

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But that was kind of no shame to me, was

okay if Marie Kondo's approach didn't

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quite hit the mark, come over here.

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And I think that's what I hear you saying

is for Mel Robbins, I think a lot of

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people, that's exactly what they need

to hear and those tools work for them.

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If you're showing up and it just isn't

hitting the mark, just know that there's

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other options, and that's where we are.

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We're just another tool that you

can lean on and be a part of.

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yeah.

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Does that, does that

feel, does that ring true?

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Does that feel right?

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Lacey: Absolutely.

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, Do we want to do our, moment of gratitude?

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Sara: Oh, I've got mine.

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So I did host joy moments solo and.

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It's funny 'cause when I listened to

it, it wasn't actually solo 'cause

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Lacey chimed in, which I loved.

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But in order to prepare for it, I texted

a bunch of friends that morning and said,

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Hey, can you gimme your joy moments?

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And I gotta tell you, I loved it.

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I loved all my friends sharing

what was bringing them joy

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in that moment right then.

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And I'm like, I wanna do this

as a weekly practice to get

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in touch with people and hear.

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What's your joy moment today?

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It just, it made me so incredibly

happy, the responses that I got.

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that was, that was beautiful.

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What about you, Lacey?

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What's a moment of gratitude for you?

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Lacey: I was not able to do joy

moments last week because Miami

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CFS has just been coming back in.

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I'm doing this via my bed today because

I'm having, A pretty rough physical

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time today and yesterday night.

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and I'm, I don't know, Sarah,

if you can see in my eyes, my

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mental capacity is going downhill.

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But one of the things that Joe and

I have been trying to do is figure

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out how to make me being home

with Violet less strenuous on me

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physically, so it's easier for me.

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And one of the things that we did

is, you know, the couches that you

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see on Amazon or really anywhere that

basically like on the ground, but like

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can fold into different configurations.

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I was like, what if I got one of those?

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'cause Violet wants to be as

physically close to you as possible.

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So a couch off the ground isn't

gonna be great, but laying on the

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ground is not good either for me.

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And so I.

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Took to the interwebs to find some

kind of hybrid chair floor mat

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mattress thing for the playroom.

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'cause that's where we spend a lot

of time with violets in the playroom.

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'cause we can, Cord in her off, like we

can make her stay in a one space 'cause

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girlfriend will explore and she will find

the tiniest thing and put it in her mouth.

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She has a very great pinch or

grasp fine motor, situation.

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Anyway, we got it this weekend.

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It has been wonderful.

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It folds out.

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I can lay on the floor.

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She can like hit me and like crawl all

over me and I don't have to get up.

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It also has turned into like a little

seat for her that she sits on it

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and she'll like play with something.

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And we're still figuring other things

out and whatnot, but it was just so

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nice to be like, I found something

that's working, that feels good, that

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doesn't feel hard, and I think has

made a pretty big difference for us.

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So I'm just feeling very grateful for,

for that and, and a husband who is gung-ho

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and helping me figure out how to, how

to make this all as easy as possible.

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I mean, it's in his best interest too.

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Let's not pretend like, but

still he's very understanding and

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about it and that kind of stuff.

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Sara: I'm, I'm happy that you got that.

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I'm very happy for you.

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Lacey: Me too.

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Sara: Well, I can tell

Lacey is winding down.

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She already has quite a bit actually.

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so let's respect Lacey's energy level.

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I saw it in your eyes

about 15 minutes ago, but,

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Lacey: Yeah, I look forward to

editing this at some point to

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see the visual representations,

that I don't often get to see.

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Sara: But I hope you, I hope

you get to rest today, and I

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hope all of our listeners, I

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Lacey: I.

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Sara: this has brought

a smile to your face.

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Maybe just has made you think about

a moment of gratitude, or maybe you

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heard about a tool that you feel like

would bring some joy into your life.

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So thank you for being with

us, and thank you, Lacey.

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Lacey: Thank you, Sarah.