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I was the shyest person that you probably have ever met I didn't know how
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to talk I got called a snob in school because I couldn't talk to people I
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just didn't have the social skills for it and nobody believes me when I say
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that now because I have gained so much experience and confidence on camera
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I remember the first podcast interview I was asked to be on I scripted
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out my answers to an interview conversation I cringe at that now
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thinking wow like just talk girl
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countdown timers became a thing after I started doing it across the internet.
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The reason I did dancing countdown timers was because I was uncomfortable
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doing it dancing is something that I hold near and dear to my heart but
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it's never something I wanted to share and That was me just challenging
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myself to be more authentic and do something that made me uncomfortable
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Welcome to the Confident Live Marketing Podcast with Ian Anderson Gray.
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Helping you level up your impact, authority, and profits through
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the power of confident live video.
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Optimize your mindset and communication.
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And increase your confidence in front of the camera.
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Get confident with the tech and gear.
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And get confident with the content and marketing.
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Together, we can go live!
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Hello, and welcome back to the Confident Live marketing podcast.
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I'm Ian Anderson Gray.
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And in this season, we are going into the realms of confidence communication
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and talking with my special guests about their journey with confidence.
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they always been able to get in front of the camera or on stage?
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Or have there been times when they've been a little bit shy, frustrated with things?
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That's what we're going to be talking about.
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And in today's episode, I'm really excited to bring back a special guest to the show.
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Friend of mine, Luria Petrucci, who who is awesome.
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She helps entrepreneurs unleash their authentic self through
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professional videos and live streams.
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For 18 years, Luria has created over 6, 000 videos with over 1 billion views
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using video and live streaming shows.
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She's appeared on places like CNN, NBC, FOX, NBC.
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MSNBC, ABC, and BBC.
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And she's worked on live videos for top brands like AT& T,
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Samsung, GoDaddy, and Panasonic.
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Live Streaming Pros has built live video studios for top influencers
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like, you might have heard some of these names, Amy Porterfield, Pat
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Flynn, Ryan Levesque, Donald Miller, Stu McLaren, and Michael Hyatt.
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Welcome back to the show.
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Luria, how you doing?
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so much for having me.
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it's great to have you back to talk about something that I
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know is very important to you.
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It's also something that I'm really passionate about.
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A lot of people know you, Luia, for getting into the gear.
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Studio setups.
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I've just mentioned that in your, in your bio, like you've made all
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these, you've helped all of these entrepreneurs with their studio setups
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and you You de geekify all of this.
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I like that term.
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I'm going to
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steal that.
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But ultimately, I know that this is something that you feel strongly about
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is it's all about that, Confidence, it's this inner confidence that so many of
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us struggle with I've talked a lot about that on My show about my journey, so i'm
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really interested to know a little bit more about your background So I know we've
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only got a short amount of time and you've got such like I mean your background
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You've been doing this for years and years But yeah, maybe your background
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when it comes to content creation, we'll talk about confidence in particular in a
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minute, but what was your, the beginnings of your getting in front of the camera?
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I know we haven't got very long you can do a whole hour on this, but see how
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you get on.
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I, so I got started in 2005 and I never wanted to create content.
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be in front of the camera.
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I was the shyest person that you probably have ever met.
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I didn't know how to talk.
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I got called a a snob in school because I couldn't talk to people.
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I just didn't have the social skills for it.
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And nobody believes me when I say that now, because I have gained So much
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experience and confidence on camera.
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So just know it can be done even if you're feeling a little shy or awkward
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or uncomfortable in front of the camera.
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But I started really just geeking around with RSS feeds.
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And if you don't know what that is, it's the technology behind
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how, podcasts are delivered.
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And now I'm in the podcast hall of fame and I've had, I've done
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TV shows and all of this stuff.
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So I just got started thinking it was just cool from a technology standpoint.
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And I very quickly, when Apple released their first video iPod,
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this was before the iPhone existed.
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It was very obvious that people were going to be getting these for Christmas
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and there was no content for it.
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There are no video content out there.
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And so I put out my first video two days before Christmas and
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immediately gained an audience because they were forced to watch me.
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They wanted, if they wanted to watch something on their video, I bought them.
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There weren't many of us doing it.
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I was forced into people's worlds and I was able to quit my day job five months
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later and start doing this full time.
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So it was pretty crazy time for me at that point.
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So was that on YouTube or was that on something else?
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What that I was
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on iTunes, it before.
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Okay.
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So this was,
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this was a video podcast back in those days, Yeah.
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And so like, when you first went in front of the camera I remember for me, like I
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I went, got in front of the camera, not because I wanted to, because I had to
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because I was like I remember like when.
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I had done videos before this, but the thing when I really felt like I had
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to do it was when Facebook live came out and I was using OBS and I thought
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people are asking me about this.
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I need to create something about it.
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And I look back on those videos and I'm cringing because I'm like,
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they're like a complete Muppet kind of, really not confident.
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So what was your, what got you in front of the, oops, I'm hitting my mic.
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I need, we talked about this last episode.
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I need a, I need one of your mics.
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What got you in front of the camera?
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Was that from you from within or were other people out there
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encouraging you to do it?
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Oh, sorry, Laura, I can't hear you.
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Is that me or you?
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Oh, so sorry.
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I double muted myself.
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Happens to us
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all.
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I, I didn't do it out of desire to be on camera.
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I did it out of necessity, knowing that what I was doing at that
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time for my Business or career was not what I wanted to do.
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So it was almost like there's this opportunity.
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I could see a future in it.
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And so I dove right in.
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I'm a, I'm an all in or all out kind of girl.
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And so when I do something, I do it all the way or I'm not going to do it at all.
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And so that was my mentality going into it.
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It was like, there was this opportunity.
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I didn't want to be doing what I was doing for the rest of my life.
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And.
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They'll just try it and see what happens, right?
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It could become a business.
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And so that's that was my internal motivation.
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Yeah.
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I love that.
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So have there been times when, and maybe you tell me the feelings
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here, like for some people they may have had like moments of fear or
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anxiety, nervousness and so yeah.
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Everyone has a different journey here.
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So there are some people out there who I've met who don't feel those things.
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Which is great for them, but like for the rest of us how did you overcome them?
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and maybe that's the wrong word do you think it's possible
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to completely overcome them?
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Because I'll be honest with you I, Still get a little bit nervous nowhere
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near as as I did like years ago, but there's still an element of that and
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I've tried to turn that nervousness into like excitement and into other things.
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So I'm interested in what that journey or that transition
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transformation has been for you.
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Like you, I was incredibly uncomfortable in front of the camera.
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Like I said, I was super shy.
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I had never really talked.
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I didn't know what I was doing.
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And I, the first videos super squeaky, like high pitched, uncomfortable voice,
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I look back and I cringe as well.
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And and I think that's the way it's supposed to be just
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cause you figure it out.
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I think for me, like it was my first year of video.
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I was totally scripted.
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I could not do anything unscripted or off the cuff.
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And I remember the first podcast interview I was asked to be on.
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I scripted out my answers to an interview conversation.
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And I read those answers on that podcast.
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I cringe at that now thinking.
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Wow.
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Like just talk girl.
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That's like how I started and how I was able to be comfortable on cam, not
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comfortable necessarily, but just do it.
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And then I got an opportunity to to be a co host on Leo Laporte's call for help.
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And I immediately said, yes, thinking what the hell am I going to do
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because I have no idea how to do this.
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But I say yes to opportunity when I know that they're going to push me in the
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direction that's going to lead to success.
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So like I said, yes.
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And then I was like, I on site on that TV set and there was no
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script and there was no undoing it.
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It was basically live to drive or live to tape at that time.
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You don't get a redo if you screw something up.
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So I was very lucky to have, a super supportive crew.
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But, and everybody said I did a fantastic job and yet internally I was fearful.
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I was scared.
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I was uncomfortable.
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And this was my first live environment.
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And I was freaking out internally, right?
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And when I got home from that experience, I was like, I can't.
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Do this like I can't not do this.
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I don't I'm not very good at not being good at something Like
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I said, I'm all in or all out.
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So it was either quit or Learn how to freakin do it And so at that point I
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started going live for my own audience just to learn the process of being off
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the cuff And so I was live weekly daily at times and I got really good really fast
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because I was throwing myself into it.
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And yeah, that was my journey.
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I think that to answer your question about do you fully overcome it?
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I think that you gain Confidence by action, right?
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Like confidence does not come without action.
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And so you've got to throw yourself into it and do it over
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and over to gain that confidence.
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However, you will also feel the nerves every time you do something new or
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out of your comfort zone, right?
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So you gain confidence, you gain comfort in this zone.
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And then when you step out and you do something new for you, You're going to
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feel that sense of uncomfortableness and lack of confidence and nerves.
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And that's a sign that you really want to do well at something and
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you are stepping into something new and bigger than you've done before.
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So I think that's a really good thing to do.
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And I recently, and I haven't told anyone this I recently had a
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conversation with my team member who helps out with content and stuff.
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And I was like, I'm stuck.
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Like I've been doing this for 18 years and I feel like I just do it
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and I haven't learned any new tricks.
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And I don't feel that sense of of nerves anymore.
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And and that's my sign to say, I got to do something new.
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I got to do something bigger.
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I got to do something greater than I have done before.
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So I'm currently figuring out what that is and stepping into a new version
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of myself too, to learn new tricks.
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I
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think, I think that's awesome.
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And it's funny you say that and I haven't actually said this publicly either.
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I've been feeling a similar kind of thing.
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Like I think It's not that I'm bored, like with what I do, but I feel like
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I need something new and exciting.
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And I actually am doing stuff.
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I have another podcast, which is nothing to do with marketing.
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And I'm really excited about that.
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Sometimes you have to step into something different.
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And I, yeah, I totally agree with everything you've said that I'm,
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I would be really interested if we could build a time machine and you
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would step into that time machine.
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And.
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Okay, I know if you've ever seen Back to the Future, this could rip the
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fabric of the universe if you were to do this, but if you could see Deloria,
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who was going live right back in those days, and was scripting everything,
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and was, like, super anxious and nervous what would you say to, what
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would you say to her to encourage her?
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Because it Sounds like there's definitely you tell me, is there, there's an element
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of perfectionism in what you're saying, you want everything to be perfect, and,
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a lot of what you're talking about now is about being real and authentic, and not
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worrying if you stumble over your words.
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So what would you say to that Luria back in those days?
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It's a great question.
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I think I would teach her that or help her understand that that perfection
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doesn't have a place in video.
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And that's what I had to learn is that The, that people want to
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connect with people and humans.
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And that's where the beauty comes in from this community that I was building.
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Like they, they loved my videos, but they loved it even more when I went
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live and they loved it even more when I would screw up or, it's not out of
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making fun of me, but out of connection.
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And so if I could infuse, have infused that earlier in her that I think it
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would be the number one key there.
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Yeah, I love that.
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And it's, obviously the world of live has changed, there's, I know you've talked
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about this a lot as well, live video is not what it was it's it rose, it's
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fallen, it's I think it's going to come back again, I think particularly with AI.
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Oh, it's
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always, yeah, up and down for sure.
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But I think, so like for people who don't necessarily
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want to embrace live what's the.
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Is there another type of thing that people can do to gain
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their confidence through doing?
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Because I totally agree with you that it's that repetition.
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That's what helped me.
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Even when I didn't want to do it, I went live and I got better and I made mistakes.
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And I was actually quite glad when I made the mistakes because
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I knew I'd learned something.
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So what other benefits are there?
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What places can people or formats can people embrace?
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I think short form, like reels, stories on Instagram and Facebook are a
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really great way to just keep movement.
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They don't have to last forever in that format.
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And so you don't have to worry about it so much.
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Doing a lot of, Just stories, reels, getting your face out there, getting
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used to the talking process and trying not to do it over and over again.
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I'm talking to myself here is I think a really great way to.
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Just get used to this form of video and then you can expand from there
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I think you're right and like I still think live video is a great
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thing to embrace even If you're struggling with it, like in terms of
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the reach and all that kind of stuff.
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It's still I think that if it wasn't for all those that this episode is not
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live, but the first 210 episodes that I did were live and I don't think I
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would be able to do as good a job as I'm doing now, not that it's perfect
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without have gone me going live as well for those first 200 episodes.
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I want to move on to um, personality and how that comes into the, to
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confidence and communication.
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Cause we're all different.
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I think that is probably there's so much diversity when it comes to personality.
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We're all very different people.
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Even people who are very similar, it's still different.
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Would you, not wanting to put you in boxes here, but, you've mentioned
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like you were very shy would you describe yourself as a shy person, a
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bold person, introverted, extroverted?
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What, how would you describe yourself from that point of view
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and how does that affect the way you turn up on camera today?
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There's obviously been a transition for you, but I'm talking about like today,
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now, how would you describe yourself?
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And how does that?
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the way you turn up on camera.
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I'm definitely an introvert who has learned to communicate well,
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but I think the key thing for my personality is that I love people.
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So you know, if you leave me in a room full of people, I'm going to
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hide in the corner for a little while.
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And Just people watch and I ask a lot of questions.
Luria:
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I don't talk about myself a lot.
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I have a hard time talking about myself in a physical environment,
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but I always ask a ton of questions.
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Because I love people.
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I love getting to know people and I love hearing people's stories and all of that.
Luria:
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And so I lean into that personality trait on my videos and in my live streams.
Luria:
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And that's what.
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Has gained me the comfort in being authentic on camera
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because, um, that's who I am.
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And so like, when you can understand things about you, I think I don't
Luria:
00:16:55
know, Ian, if you ever went through my LITA program challenge That was
Luria:
00:17:00
one of, it was basically a live every day for 30 day challenge, which
Luria:
00:17:03
I don't do anymore in that form.
Luria:
00:17:06
But one of the things that I have taken from that and integrate into my coaching
Luria:
00:17:11
programs and other forms of education is understanding who you are as a
Luria:
00:17:17
person, which most people don't actually know or spend any time thinking about.
Luria:
00:17:23
Is the only way to really be authentic on camera.
Luria:
00:17:28
And so I take you through a series of questions that really uncovers who you
Luria:
00:17:34
are, where you see your flaws, where you see your strengths and getting really,
Luria:
00:17:38
truly vulnerable in that space, because most people don't think about it or spend
Luria:
00:17:45
any effort identifying these things.
Luria:
00:17:48
It's impossible.
Luria:
00:17:50
To then show that on camera intentionally, right?
Luria:
00:17:53
And so I think that's really one of the most important things you can do
Luria:
00:17:56
is uncover who you are internally and externally and how understanding how
Luria:
00:18:00
other people see you and think about you.
Luria:
00:18:04
And then you can actually turn that into intention.
Luria:
00:18:07
And be authentic intentionally, which is pretty cool.
Luria:
00:18:11
I know that kind of sounds like a little like weird intentionally authentic,
Luria:
00:18:15
but don't you agree with that?
Ian:
00:18:18
No, I totally get it.
Ian:
00:18:19
It seems like ridiculous that you'd have to say that, but I think that's
Ian:
00:18:23
really important because one of the things I was going to say is so
Ian:
00:18:27
many of us feel tempted to Become a like a carbon copy of somebody else.
Ian:
00:18:31
So I'm sure you've had this like they'll be really inspired by your shows, Luria.
Ian:
00:18:36
And they think, ah, maybe I need to dance, or maybe I need to move my hands around.
Ian:
00:18:40
Maybe I need to, Sound like really excited, but I'm actually less animated,
Ian:
00:18:46
so they try to become a Laurier copycat and not because for any other
Ian:
00:18:51
it's easier for them to do that than to work out to look into that side
Ian:
00:18:55
themselves and like, well, who am I?
Ian:
00:18:57
And to feel the confidence, like with their own voice, with their own flaws.
Ian:
00:19:01
And what would you say for somebody who.
Ian:
00:19:04
They've gone on that journey to maybe understand like a little bit
Ian:
00:19:07
about who they are, but they don't really like what they see and they'd
Ian:
00:19:10
rather be more like you, Luria.
Ian:
00:19:12
So what would you say to them?
Luria:
00:19:13
It's never going to work.
Luria:
00:19:15
And you're right.
Luria:
00:19:16
I think you said it so perfectly.
Luria:
00:19:17
I've seen it over and over, like dancing countdown timers became a thing after
Luria:
00:19:22
I started doing it across the internet.
Luria:
00:19:25
And I was like, this is really interesting, right?
Luria:
00:19:28
It's like the reason I did dancing countdown timers was because
Luria:
00:19:34
I was uncomfortable doing it.
Luria:
00:19:36
No, nobody actually realizes that it's like dancing is something that
Luria:
00:19:40
I hold near and dear to my heart and I do, but I don't share any of it.
Luria:
00:19:45
And yeah, It's just because it's like it goes down deep down into, my dad's
Luria:
00:19:52
love of dance and art and how he integrated that with me growing up.
Luria:
00:19:58
And so that's like a deep passion, but it's never something I wanted to share.
Luria:
00:20:02
And That was me just challenging myself to be more authentic and do something
Luria:
00:20:08
that, oh, made me uncomfortable, right?
Luria:
00:20:11
And so it's interesting, it's I want you to do those things identify those
Luria:
00:20:16
things because that's what's going to create the hardcore connection.
Luria:
00:20:22
between you and your viewers is when they feel this sense.
Luria:
00:20:25
Like they're never going to say, Oh it doesn't seem authentic
Luria:
00:20:29
that you're dancing, but there's a disconnect that happens.
Luria:
00:20:33
And it's people are very smart and intuitive from that perspective.
Luria:
00:20:37
And so it's just not, you're going to hit your head against brick
Luria:
00:20:41
over and over and over until you.
Luria:
00:20:44
Break out of that shell and do the things that you find near
Luria:
00:20:48
and dear to your hearts, or it's, it can be as simple as a phrase.
Luria:
00:20:52
I say abso freaking lutely.
Luria:
00:20:54
That's my phrase that I say in like my real life.
Luria:
00:20:57
And so I take that to the camera, but that creates connection.
Luria:
00:21:00
People repeat that in my chat room.
Luria:
00:21:03
And I was having a conversation with one of my students in our
Luria:
00:21:06
in our membership where we were.
Luria:
00:21:07
Like I did we do this exercise where we do identify okay, how can you
Luria:
00:21:11
show up more authentically on camera?
Luria:
00:21:13
And I was looking at this is one Evan is his name and he does
Luria:
00:21:17
EFT tapping um, on his channel.
Luria:
00:21:20
And he has this calming voice, this calming presence.
Luria:
00:21:25
If he tried to be like me, it totally wouldn't work.
Luria:
00:21:28
If he like smiled and laughed and giggled, it's not going to work.
Luria:
00:21:33
And over and over the rest of the students were like, Oh man, I was just,
Luria:
00:21:36
I could fall asleep to your voice.
Luria:
00:21:37
I love your voice.
Luria:
00:21:38
Like I could totally listen to that for hours on end.
Luria:
00:21:42
But that's his calming presence and that's what makes him beautiful.
Luria:
00:21:46
And that's what makes his channel work is when he leans into that.
Ian:
00:21:50
I love that.
Ian:
00:21:51
And this is the problem when we Look at other content out there.
Ian:
00:21:56
It's difficult.
Ian:
00:21:56
We, I think getting inspiration is really good.
Ian:
00:21:59
So if people look at your channel to be inspired by the way you do things
Ian:
00:22:04
but then not to think, Oh, okay.
Ian:
00:22:06
The secret to my success is to do exactly what Luria is doing and to emulate that.
Ian:
00:22:11
And the thing so much so, you know, we talked about this, I think on the, when
Ian:
00:22:14
you were on the podcast a few years ago, you talked about flaws And I know that
Ian:
00:22:19
you've struggled with this or you've had to work through this and that is
Ian:
00:22:22
there were certain aspects of ourselves that we don't like or we haven't liked.
Ian:
00:22:26
And often we will want to change those things because we want
Ian:
00:22:30
to appear, say, more likable.
Ian:
00:22:32
So for example with me, like I have a singing background and you might
Ian:
00:22:36
think this is ridiculous, Luria, but I've tried to hide that side of me
Ian:
00:22:40
because I think it's like irrelevant and ridiculous and I feel embarrassed
Ian:
00:22:43
about it, which is not true.
Ian:
00:22:46
It's complete nonsense because actually that side of me, people, my audience
Ian:
00:22:50
are going to love I've also even when I'm, when I've spoken at events
Ian:
00:22:55
in America, I've been really self conscious about my British accent.
Ian:
00:22:59
Oh my God, we love
Luria:
00:23:00
that.
Ian:
00:23:01
And that's the thing, but I'm using these as examples because Still
Ian:
00:23:06
for me today I, there's still an element that I'm trying to hide that
Ian:
00:23:10
away and I've been working on that.
Ian:
00:23:11
And I think that's the case with all of us.
Ian:
00:23:13
So embracing who you are and you will have an audience that will come to,
Ian:
00:23:19
that will like you and love what you do.
Ian:
00:23:21
And it is a journey that we, that takes time.
Luria:
00:23:24
Yeah.
Luria:
00:23:24
And understanding that the way we perceive our flaws is just
Luria:
00:23:29
not the way that others see it.
Luria:
00:23:32
And we know that intellectually that, we're the hardest
Luria:
00:23:35
critic and blah, blah, blah.
Luria:
00:23:37
But until you really spend some effort embracing that concept
Luria:
00:23:43
is going to be a struggle.
Luria:
00:23:45
And like with the accent, like I, Love listening to you
Luria:
00:23:49
because of your accent, right?
Luria:
00:23:51
Doesn't really matter what you say.
Luria:
00:23:52
Come on, just talk, right?
Luria:
00:23:55
But we all have those things.
Luria:
00:23:57
I saw the fact that I don't know, pop culture I don't know who's
Luria:
00:24:02
married to who celebrity gossip.
Luria:
00:24:03
I don't know, like actors names.
Luria:
00:24:05
I don't know movie names.
Luria:
00:24:06
I don't know.
Luria:
00:24:07
Don't have, I can watch a movie and forget all about it.
Luria:
00:24:10
Like I don't have any pop culture, anything.
Luria:
00:24:13
But that was always a source of embarrassment for me.
Luria:
00:24:17
Cause of core childhood.
Luria:
00:24:20
traumas, right?
Luria:
00:24:22
Like, and I wasn't allowed to, I grew up in a very overly strict environment.
Luria:
00:24:28
No TV allowed, no music allowed, except for the approved list,
Luria:
00:24:31
like all of these things.
Luria:
00:24:33
And so for me, that's a source of embarrassment because it set me
Luria:
00:24:37
apart from other kids at school.
Luria:
00:24:40
And I wasn't allowed to participate in certain things, in that.
Luria:
00:24:44
Damaged me.
Luria:
00:24:45
And now it's something that I embrace on camera because
Luria:
00:24:49
other people find it humorous.
Luria:
00:24:51
It becomes a game with them trying to trip me up on pop culture references.
Luria:
00:24:56
And they feel like this, like they love it.
Luria:
00:25:00
They love it.
Luria:
00:25:01
I had to learn that was actually a strength for my content
Luria:
00:25:06
versus a brokenness in me.
Ian:
00:25:09
That's really interesting.
Ian:
00:25:09
And that must have been a very difficult journey because obviously
Ian:
00:25:13
from your childhood, all these traumas, but you've embraced that.
Ian:
00:25:16
And I love that too, because I'm just not interested in pop culture, but
Ian:
00:25:20
I've always felt that I should be.
Ian:
00:25:23
And so I actually love the fact that somebody else out there
Ian:
00:25:26
doesn't really get it either.
Ian:
00:25:27
But
Luria:
00:25:28
We'll be anti pop culture.
Luria:
00:25:29
We'll form a club.
Ian:
00:25:30
Who else wants to join?
Ian:
00:25:31
Yeah, exactly.
Ian:
00:25:34
So I, I love, I love chatting with you, Luria.
Ian:
00:25:36
We, I think one of the things that, um, I see with you is that you're obviously
Ian:
00:25:42
interested in so many different things.
Ian:
00:25:44
You go super deep with technology, but it's not just, it's not
Ian:
00:25:47
really about the technology.
Ian:
00:25:48
It's.
Ian:
00:25:49
The people, you mentioned you're an introvert, but you love people
Ian:
00:25:53
and you care about people, you want them to fulfill really their their
Ian:
00:25:57
direction and their and at a core,
Luria:
00:26:00
I believe, oh, sorry.
Ian:
00:26:02
No, you carry on.
Luria:
00:26:03
I was just going to say I believe tech is a tool and it's only a tool
Luria:
00:26:06
to get your message heard, to add your personality, like we can do all kinds
Luria:
00:26:10
of fun stuff with tech and graphics and overlays and animations to integrate
Luria:
00:26:15
your personality in your own unique way.
Luria:
00:26:17
But it really is at its core, a tool for you to live a bigger version of yourself.
Ian:
00:26:23
Yeah, definitely.
Ian:
00:26:24
And so you was, you were saying earlier about this.
Ian:
00:26:28
wanting to do something new and you're not challenged.
Ian:
00:26:31
And I think one thing that I'd love to see from you is going deep, the kind
Ian:
00:26:35
of conversation that we've had today.
Ian:
00:26:36
I love that.
Ian:
00:26:37
But I wanted to ask you this just before we finish, because I
Ian:
00:26:40
know you've had this in the past.
Ian:
00:26:41
You've had this, you have made pivots in the past where people, they've
Ian:
00:26:46
been invested in this part of you.
Ian:
00:26:49
And then you've said, actually, you know what, I'm going this
Ian:
00:26:51
direction and not everyone.
Ian:
00:26:54
So if people, for example, yourself, if you, not that you are going to make
Ian:
00:26:58
this big pivot, I'm not suggesting that, but if people are going to change
Ian:
00:27:03
maybe they've tried to be somebody else and now they're going to be me
Ian:
00:27:07
and people don't necessarily like that.
Ian:
00:27:08
How do you make that transition?
Ian:
00:27:11
And because, and particularly when it comes to, this was a question I was going
Ian:
00:27:15
to ask you earlier when it comes to people like the trolls out there who are saying
Ian:
00:27:19
nasty things and that can be quite hard.
Luria:
00:27:23
It can.
Luria:
00:27:24
It can.
Luria:
00:27:25
And pivoting is a necessary part of life.
Luria:
00:27:29
When I pivoted the first time, I did it very wrong.
Luria:
00:27:33
I, it was ten years in.
Luria:
00:27:35
I started when I was in my early twenties.
Luria:
00:27:37
I was now in my thirties and I wasn't, I was in a bubble, a
Luria:
00:27:43
forced bubble of, Personality.
Luria:
00:27:45
And when you go from twenties to thirties, you're supposed to grow and change.
Luria:
00:27:49
You're supposed to be somebody different.
Luria:
00:27:51
And that I felt wasn't allowed, and so that was the, that was really difficult.
Luria:
00:27:58
And I blew everything up.
Luria:
00:27:59
I lost 2 million followers immediately changed my name, like a whole thing.
Luria:
00:28:03
I did it very wrong.
Luria:
00:28:04
And people are still just rediscovering me from that blow up and that pivot.
Luria:
00:28:09
And what I believe now is your content, your personality on your
Luria:
00:28:14
content should ebb and flow over time.
Luria:
00:28:18
And your audience, if you do it softly versus blow everything up,
Luria:
00:28:23
like I did, if you do it softly and over time, and just as you're feeling
Luria:
00:28:29
those changes in you as a human being your audience is very likely going to
Luria:
00:28:34
come along with you for the journey.
Luria:
00:28:36
Especially if you're connecting with them from an authentic place they're
Luria:
00:28:41
going to want you to grow and change.
Luria:
00:28:43
They're going to want to go with that journey on you.
Luria:
00:28:46
I'm sorry, on that journey with you.
Luria:
00:28:48
The people who don't, like I went through a pivot recently and a
Luria:
00:28:52
big transition in my business.
Luria:
00:28:53
And I lost a lot of viewers and I turned around one day and I
Luria:
00:28:59
was like, I don't want them.
Luria:
00:29:01
I didn't like their personality.
Luria:
00:29:03
I didn't like the energy that they brought into the chat room and
Luria:
00:29:07
I was happy that they left me.
Luria:
00:29:10
And so understand that as you do grow and adjust as a human being, likely the
Luria:
00:29:17
people who don't come along with you and are trolls to you are going to, Really be
Luria:
00:29:21
the wrong person for you going forward.
Luria:
00:29:23
And that's not only okay.
Luria:
00:29:25
That's beautiful because now I love my community.
Luria:
00:29:30
I love the heart that they bring to it versus a judgmental approach to life.
Luria:
00:29:36
And that happened because I was, I said okay to a risk.
Ian:
00:29:42
And that, that takes courage, but it's so important, to be you
Ian:
00:29:47
to, then you're going to attract the people that like you for who
Ian:
00:29:51
you are, which is what we want.
Ian:
00:29:54
And the last thing you want is to trap yourself
Luria:
00:29:56
in, sorry, I was just going to say the last thing you want is to
Luria:
00:29:59
find yourself trapped just because you weren't willing to make that change.
Ian:
00:30:04
Yeah, and we, you can get trapped into the cycle of creating content
Ian:
00:30:08
for content's sake and creating the kind of content that you think
Ian:
00:30:12
your audience want when they aren't really the audience that you want.
Ian:
00:30:15
So yeah.
Ian:
00:30:17
Laurie, I, as I was saying, I could speak to you for ages but we are trying
Ian:
00:30:21
to keep these episodes short and sweet.
Ian:
00:30:23
No, it's fine.
Ian:
00:30:24
It's absolutely fine.
Ian:
00:30:25
It's been an absolute.
Ian:
00:30:26
Pleasure speaking with you to hear your story.
Ian:
00:30:28
And I know my audience will be, will have loved this episode.
Ian:
00:30:31
So thank you so much.
Ian:
00:30:33
So you have you have been working on lots of different things.
Ian:
00:30:35
We mentioned this in the previous episode but just briefly tell us
Ian:
00:30:39
about the, this, the thing that you've got which if you go to iag.
Ian:
00:30:43
me forward slash Luria, you can find out all about, I just
Ian:
00:30:46
forgotten the actual name of it.
Ian:
00:30:47
And you're going to help me with it.
Ian:
00:30:49
Yeah,
Luria:
00:30:49
it's it's called the bold video bundle.
Luria:
00:30:51
And it's.
Luria:
00:30:52
It's a paint by numbers style system to use tech as a tool
Luria:
00:30:57
to get your message heard.
Luria:
00:30:58
So if you're willing to be bold and show up on camera more confidently
Luria:
00:31:04
through understanding that you have a professional video that you want
Luria:
00:31:07
to put out there and that you can be proud of then I help you set up the
Luria:
00:31:11
tech very streamlined, very easy.
Luria:
00:31:13
You don't have to know anything or be good at the tech.
Luria:
00:31:16
I take care of you without any decisions on your part, really.
Ian:
00:31:19
That's what we want.
Ian:
00:31:20
Even if you don't like the tech, you want to communicate and I think
Ian:
00:31:24
that a lot of this stuff will help.
Ian:
00:31:25
Okay, the tech won't necessarily help when you're speaking on stage, but
Ian:
00:31:30
if you get all the, if you get the tech sorted and you get confident
Ian:
00:31:34
in front of the camera, it will also help you when you get out on stage,
Ian:
00:31:37
if that's what you want to do as well.
Ian:
00:31:38
It's the whole thing.
Ian:
00:31:39
You can find out more.
Ian:
00:31:40
And sign up at IAG.
Ian:
00:31:41
me forward slash Luria.
Ian:
00:31:42
Thank you so much Luria.
Ian:
00:31:43
It's been amazing to chat with you but we are out of time.
Ian:
00:31:48
Thank you so much everyone for plugging us into your ears,
Ian:
00:31:52
for watching on the YouTubes.
Ian:
00:31:53
There is a blog as well.
Ian:
00:31:54
So if you just go to IAG.
Ian:
00:31:55
me forward slash podcast the show notes are all there.
Ian:
00:31:58
But until next time, I encourage you to level up your impact authority and profits
Ian:
00:32:03
through the power of confident live video.
Ian:
00:32:05
See you soon.
Ian:
00:32:05
Toot a late!
Ian:
00:32:07
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Ian:
00:32:12
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Ian:
00:32:17
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Ian:
00:32:22
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