Joshua Noel and TJ Blackwell dive into the epic showdown of "Marvel vs Godzilla" and "Justice League vs Godzilla vs Kong," dissecting which universe brings the heat when it comes to giant monsters. They kick things off by comparing the 2023 DC crossover, which features a chaotic clash between the Justice League and Godzilla, to the 2025 Marvel series, where Godzilla stomps through classic superhero narratives. With a mix of witty banter and insightful commentary, they highlight how each franchise approaches the legendary Kaiju, exploring themes of power, responsibility, and the ever-entertaining spectacle of colossal battles. As they navigate through the stories, they reflect on character development, plot cohesion, and the nostalgic charm of both universes, providing listeners with a comprehensive and entertaining breakdown of these monster mash-ups. So, whether you're Team Marvel or Team DC, this episode promises to be a roaring good time!
The latest episode dives headfirst into the colossal clash of titans as Joshua Noel and TJ Blackwell pit the iconic Godzilla against the superheroes of Marvel and DC. They explore the two major comic adaptations: the lively 'Marvel vs Godzilla,' which presents a series of entertaining short stories featuring Godzilla tangling with the likes of the Fantastic Four and Spider-Man, and the more narrative-driven 'Justice League vs Godzilla vs Kong.' The former is described as an anthology of fun, where Godzilla disrupts familiar superhero narratives, making for some hilarious and chaotic showdowns. The latter, however, offers a deeper storyline with the Justice League grappling with Godzilla's rampage while tackling their own dilemmas, all under the shadow of Lex Luthor’s manipulations. The banter between the hosts is just as engaging as the content, with witty exchanges and light-hearted jabs that keep the conversation lively and entertaining, making for a relaxed yet insightful exploration of these two universes.
Takeaways:
Joshua and TJ dive deep into the epic clash of titans, comparing Marvel's Godzilla to DC's Justice League versus Godzilla and Kong, exploring unique storytelling elements.
In this lively discussion, they highlight how the character of Godzilla serves as both a destructive force and a metaphor for environmental concerns in both universes.
The episode brings a humorous yet insightful perspective on the strengths and weaknesses of each comic series, emphasizing the differences in narrative styles between Marvel and DC.
Listeners will appreciate the witty banter as Joshua and TJ debate the effectiveness of the character arcs within the Godzilla narratives compared to traditional superhero tales.
TJ points out the intriguing moments where characters like Superman and Shazam grapple with their powers, showcasing how they handle the chaos Godzilla brings to their worlds.
The podcast wraps up with a call for listeners to engage with the comics discussed, highlighting the importance of enjoying comic narratives while reflecting on their deeper meanings.
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Or Godzilla versus Kong versus Justice League or whatever iteration it's written in the title that I don't remember.
Speaker B:
Guys, we are excited to talk about this.
Speaker B:
We are comparing the:
Speaker B:
So they both have sequels.
Speaker B:
I learned right before doing this that we're not talking about, but we will be talking about the original one for both Justice League was Brian Busileto, Christian Deuce, Louis Guerra, others.
Speaker B:
This is why I don't list the creators, Will.
Speaker B:
I can't pronounce them right.
Speaker B:
I feel like it's more respectful to just not.
Speaker B:
Marvel's had Ryan North, Joe Kelly, Jason Aaron, a bunch of other people working on the Marvel verse Godzilla miniseries.
Speaker B:
I am Joshua Noel.
Speaker B:
I have bad opinions.
Speaker B:
And I'm here with the one, only TJ whose opinions are correct.
Speaker B:
You might think that opinions can't be right or wrong, but you haven't heard TJ's yet.
Speaker C:
Thank you.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
So that we are excited to get in this.
Speaker B:
But first we're going to talk about what we've been geeking out on recently.
Speaker B:
Actually, I've been kicking out on Fallout a little bit.
Speaker B:
We had the Fallout House at Halloween Horror Nights.
Speaker B:
Had fun with that.
Speaker B:
Rewatched a little bit of the show.
Speaker C:
Was it good?
Speaker B:
Downloaded a Fallout game.
Speaker B:
I haven't started it yet, but.
Speaker C:
Which one?
Speaker B:
Vegas.
Speaker B:
Good.
Speaker B:
That's what you and Chris told me to do.
Speaker B:
So I downloaded this.
Speaker B:
I was like, yeah, I'll play this.
Speaker B:
And I was like, oh, wait a minute.
Speaker B:
I'm in a little Kingdom Hearts.
Speaker B:
So I'm finishing that, but then I'm gonna play.
Speaker A:
Good.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
What about you?
Speaker B:
What you been geeking out on?
Speaker C:
I guess Demon Slayer.
Speaker C:
Yeah, I'm back on.
Speaker B:
You're not sure?
Speaker C:
Yeah, Well, I wasn't gonna.
Speaker C:
I read like 70 chapters of it again.
Speaker C:
Just.
Speaker C:
Just because I want to see the movie.
Speaker C:
Sounds like I'm probably gonna go see the movie a second time.
Speaker B:
Oh, was it good?
Speaker C:
It's really good.
Speaker C:
It's great.
Speaker A:
Nice.
Speaker C:
It is really, really good.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
My problem with anime, it's just one piece.
Speaker B:
Every time I go to try to watch something else, I pull up Crunchyroll.
Speaker B:
You're a Crunchyroll.
Speaker B:
And the first thing is one piece.
Speaker B:
I'm like, well, I guess I'll finish.
Speaker A:
You know that.
Speaker C:
Watch some more of that.
Speaker B:
Yeah, it's like I have other stuff that I was coming on here to watch.
Speaker B:
But once that's up, it's like, well, just click that.
Speaker B:
Yeah, it's a good show anyway, so with that, guys, if you're on a laptop, consider rating, reviewing our show on podchaser or goodpod.
Speaker B:
It helps our show gain recognition and stuff, like, you know, Google and stuff.
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We'll prioritize that.
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So when people look for things we talk about, it might show up and that'll help her show.
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A lot of it's free, easy, doesn't take that long.
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It's going to help prioritize our show in those apps, algorithms to where most people listen to podcasts.
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So it helps a whole lot.
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It's free, takes a couple seconds.
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So thank you guys so much in advance for your support doing that.
Speaker B:
It really does mean a lot to TJ, myself and the other, like, 13 hosts.
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Also thank our sponsors on Patreon.
Speaker B:
Today we're going to do a shout out for Justin Vaughn.
Speaker B:
Justin, you rock.
Speaker B:
We love you.
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And remember, guys, if you want your own shout out, you want to be like Justin Vaughn, you can support our show for $3 a month or more on Patreon.
Speaker B:
So maybe consider it because Justin's cool and you should want to be cool, too.
Speaker C:
Yeah, everyone should just want to be like Justin.
Speaker B:
That's just accurate, though.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
And with that, we're gonna jump right into this conversation.
Speaker B:
Tj, I don't know if you're familiar with Godzilla at all, but what.
Speaker B:
What's your history with.
Speaker B:
With these IPs here?
Speaker C:
So I actually created Godzilla 80 years ago.
Speaker B:
That makes sense.
Speaker B:
I thought it was like when, like, Earth began, you were like, they'll need this.
Speaker A:
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:
But, you know, I've talked about it, I think two or three times on the show before now.
Speaker C:
Pretty much my whole life.
Speaker C:
Cousin's house.
Speaker C:
Godzilla movie.
Speaker C:
Godzilla's just been around.
Speaker C:
There's never been a time where there wasn't Godzilla to watch.
Speaker C:
Even American Godzilla.
Speaker C:
Because I was like four when that happened, when Zilla came out.
Speaker C:
And I like Zillow.
Speaker B:
I've liked almost, actually.
Speaker B:
I think everything I've seen Godzilla in, I've enjoyed.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
For nothing else than, you know, big monsters are cool.
Speaker C:
Big monsters are awesome.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
I mean, that part of being a young child, just.
Speaker B:
I don't feel like you actually grow out of.
Speaker B:
It's just always cool to see big monster with nuclear breath.
Speaker C:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
Awesome.
Speaker C:
And sometimes very meaningful.
Speaker C:
But mostly awesome.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
The meaningful parts you care about as you get older.
Speaker B:
The other parts you always like.
Speaker B:
You're like a child.
Speaker B:
And there's like some nuanced political stuff and you're like, when's the monster coming?
Speaker B:
And monster shows up and you're like, yeah, this is great.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
That other hour stuff, I don't know what happened, but it was worth it.
Speaker C:
Yeah, it was worth it.
Speaker C:
It's always worth it.
Speaker A:
Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:
So, yeah, I mean, my history is pretty much the same.
Speaker B:
Godzilla, Marvel, dc.
Speaker B:
I think pretty much the same.
Speaker B:
You know, I grew up in Florida, so we had Marvel and Islands of Adventure since I was a child.
Speaker B:
Dc, you know, watch the animated Batman growing up.
Speaker B:
Superman just kind of always been around.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
Just always.
Speaker C:
We are.
Speaker C:
We're children of pop culture.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
I mean, when I was younger, I might not have known the difference, but I liked Batman and Flash.
Speaker B:
I thought they were cool.
Speaker B:
Then once I started reading comics, I was like, think I prefer Marvel.
Speaker B:
I like their stories a little bit better.
Speaker B:
And I still haven't really diverged from that.
Speaker B:
I'm still more of a Marvel guy, but I've come to not like, feel like I need to pit the two against each other.
Speaker B:
I can appreciate both.
Speaker B:
I just know which one I typically prefer.
Speaker A:
Mm.
Speaker A:
Mm.
Speaker C:
I think I'm the opposite.
Speaker C:
I think I do prefer DC just because I like the Flash and Green Lantern more than any Marvel hero.
Speaker B:
That's fair.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
Well, I mean, it's also.
Speaker B:
It's just a different kind of storytelling.
Speaker B:
I feel like DJ does a lot of reading, so it's probably easier for you to keep up with, like, Green Lanterns, like vast universe.
Speaker B:
And I'm like, I like simple, streamlined, ground level stories.
Speaker B:
I don't have to remember too much what's going on in the universe.
Speaker B:
Captain America, I usually can tell what's going on pretty easily.
Speaker B:
Same thing.
Speaker B:
Spiderman.
Speaker B:
I get that.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
But, yeah, I mean, and there's no.
Speaker B:
Either way, it's cool.
Speaker B:
eme for Systematic Ecology in:
Speaker B:
So we do like a series of like, verses or like, oh, werewolves first vampires.
Speaker B:
But really trying to find the good in both sides.
Speaker B:
This is not part of that series.
Speaker B:
But since we're comparing the two, feel like it's worth mentioning, you know, we are.
Speaker B:
We're gonna do that a little bit.
Speaker B:
We're trying to find the good in both the Marvel and DC's take on Godzilla.
Speaker B:
Because it's cool.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
So TJ, could you summarize the Justice League versus Godzilla?
Speaker B:
Versus Kong storyline that we're talking about today.
Speaker C:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
So basically what happens is Godzilla shows up and Superman's trying to take a vacation.
Speaker C:
He's trying to propose to Lois Lane.
Speaker C:
Take a vacation.
Speaker A:
Right.
Speaker C:
And then Godzilla shows up and just obviously he can't just let that happen.
Speaker C:
And there are other titans that show up before, I think Scylla shows up and he has to go deal with Scylla while he's trying to propose on top of the Daily Planet.
Speaker C:
And then Godzilla shows up and just puts hands on him.
Speaker A:
He just.
Speaker C:
Just destroys him here and there.
Speaker C:
Some other things happen.
Speaker C:
Pretty much they get it says Justice League.
Speaker C:
That's what they called it.
Speaker C:
Everybody.
Speaker C:
Everybody's involved.
Speaker C:
Absolutely everybody.
Speaker C:
Justice League, of course, is trying to cover for Superman, struggling with how much he actually does on a daily basis.
Speaker C:
They can't keep up with that, period.
Speaker C:
And then also the legendary universe, you know, Kaiju started coming over and we find out Lex Luthor is behind it.
Speaker C:
And it's.
Speaker C:
It's just a good old justice.
Speaker A:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:
I forget exactly which villain did it, but somebody.
Speaker B:
Somebody did like a mess up.
Speaker B:
So it was like Luther in the background.
Speaker A:
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:
They found, like, some of the articles and stuff from, like, Superman's lair.
Speaker B:
And then Toy Master opened up a dimensional portal thing.
Speaker B:
I think my favorite part of the story really is Lex deciding.
Speaker B:
I know the solution.
Speaker B:
Lex core Mechagodzilla.
Speaker B:
Yeah, that was awesome.
Speaker C:
Flex Core Mechagodzilla.
Speaker B:
Easily my favorite rocks.
Speaker C:
It does rock.
Speaker C:
It really does.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
And.
Speaker B:
And I think the thing that was like, the biggest shocker for me wasn't like, to me, I kind of saw Superman getting defeated.
Speaker B:
Saw that coming because, like, nuclear breath.
Speaker B:
I was like, it's probably close to like the sun thing.
Speaker B:
He'll get overcharged, you know, whatever.
Speaker B:
It really threw me that they just straight up narc Guy Gardner.
Speaker B:
Yeah, he's dead.
Speaker C:
Yeah, that was.
Speaker C:
That one was.
Speaker C:
Sure, man.
Speaker B:
Whatever.
Speaker C:
I was like, oh, fair enough, I guess.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
I guess, like in these, like, fun little spin off or like, you know, crossover events, I just don't expect big things to happen, you know, I'm like, oh, we're.
Speaker B:
We're killing a character.
Speaker C:
Yeah.
Speaker A:
Okay.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
And I'm like, I'm a Green Lantern fan.
Speaker C:
I'm not opposed to watching Guy Gardner die every once in a while.
Speaker B:
Occasionally.
Speaker B:
Just has to.
Speaker C:
Just surprised me.
Speaker A:
Yeah, yeah, it was funny.
Speaker B:
Any other, like, main story plot things that you think we need to bring up?
Speaker C:
No.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
I want to say this was like a five or six part.
Speaker B:
And it was, like, coherent.
Speaker A:
Right.
Speaker B:
Like, the Titans came over.
Speaker B:
They were pissed off because they're not where they're supposed to be, you know, Confused, angry.
Speaker B:
You still have that typical thing of, like, Lex being like, oh, industry.
Speaker B:
And Godzilla being like, stop effing up the planet.
Speaker A:
Yep, Yep.
Speaker C:
It really is good because Godzilla.
Speaker C:
Godzilla just hates everybody.
Speaker A:
All of you.
Speaker C:
You're all bad.
Speaker C:
Because none of them are from the legendary universe.
Speaker C:
And Godzilla's angry, so he's fighting everybody.
Speaker C:
And you can watch.
Speaker C:
The Justice League is just, like, trying to convince Godzilla to take out Lex's Mechagodzilla.
Speaker C:
And then in.
Speaker C:
In part two, the second run, I'm.
Speaker C:
You know, we're not going to talk about it, but I think it's better.
Speaker B:
Yeah, we're not about.
Speaker B:
Because I haven't read it yet, and I desperately need to.
Speaker B:
I didn't even know it was a thing until we started preparing for this.
Speaker B:
And I was like, well, I missed a whole second one.
Speaker B:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
Like, slut.
Speaker B:
Kong's part of this was cool, too, though.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
They just kind of, like, coerced Kong to be in a part of it.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
I think that was the best part.
Speaker B:
Like, most of the Titans were pissed off because they're like, why am I here?
Speaker B:
I forgot who it was that Aquaman had a fight that was kind of cool because he had Sea monster and Aquaman.
Speaker C:
Tmn.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
I mean, naturally had to happen.
Speaker B:
But I think the funniest part was just Kong.
Speaker B:
Like, everybody.
Speaker B:
All the other types here, and Angry Kong's just chilling.
Speaker B:
They had to, like, coerce him into the fight.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
Supergirl and Wonder Woman end up fighting King Kong and, like, establishing dominance and then that respect.
Speaker C:
And they're like, all right, let's go.
Speaker C:
Come with us.
Speaker C:
We're going to go fight the lizard.
Speaker B:
For that big dragon, basically.
Speaker B:
I really.
Speaker C:
They really give Green Arrow as props, I think was really cool part of this run.
Speaker A:
Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:
Because they just strand Oliver out there on Skull island and like, a ninja show up, of course, because it's Green Arrow, but he holds it down.
Speaker C:
He does not die.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
That whole time was just imagining it.
Speaker B:
Like Oliver Queen from the Arrow Show.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
Because he was on the island.
Speaker B:
That's.
Speaker B:
That's who this one is.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
What's that Green.
Speaker C:
It's really fun run.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
I think that's what it's supposed to be.
Speaker C:
It's fun run.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
It was a cohesive story.
Speaker B:
It made sense.
Speaker B:
It wasn't just like, a Godzilla's here now, like they made it made sense.
Speaker B:
And I like that.
Speaker B:
Not a long story.
Speaker B:
I like that too.
Speaker A:
All right.
Speaker B:
Second shark.
Speaker C:
It is King Shark.
Speaker C:
So that is worth talk about it since I put it in here anyway.
Speaker C:
But in the second run, Lex designs to Kaiju.
Speaker C:
Just DC bad guys.
Speaker A:
It rocks.
Speaker B:
He's just gonna make DC bad guys into Kaiju.
Speaker A:
Yeah, he does.
Speaker C:
King Shark, Killer Croc.
Speaker B:
I feel like he should have done the.
Speaker B:
Their.
Speaker B:
Their gorilla guy.
Speaker C:
Grodd.
Speaker B:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
So Grodd has like.
Speaker C:
Grodd has like a whole thing with King Kong, obviously, where he's like, oh, great ape.
Speaker C:
You know, he kneels.
Speaker C:
He kneels to Kong.
Speaker C:
And so all of his gorillas, it's.
Speaker B:
It's good.
Speaker C:
It's really good.
Speaker B:
That makes sense.
Speaker A:
Yeah, man.
Speaker B:
Killer Croc, Kaiju.
Speaker B:
Sounds awesome.
Speaker C:
It is.
Speaker C:
It is.
Speaker C:
It's so cool.
Speaker C:
And King Shark Kaiju is also awesome.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker A:
I mean, yeah.
Speaker B:
That's a given though.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
All right.
Speaker B:
Marvel verse Godzilla.
Speaker B:
There is no Kong.
Speaker B:
It is quite different, I think.
Speaker B:
Did I just.
Speaker B:
I didn't put this in there.
Speaker B:
Okay.
Speaker B:
There's not really a story to summarize there.
Speaker B:
This is more like an anthology of short stories.
Speaker B:
I feel like for the most part, Thor mentioned some of the other stuff happening a little bit, but mostly just one off stories.
Speaker B:
There's like five different ones.
Speaker B:
You get Godzilla versus Fantastic Four.
Speaker B:
You get Godzilla versus the X Men, Avengers, Spider man, and then Thor.
Speaker B:
I don't think it's in that order.
Speaker B:
It doesn't really matter.
Speaker B:
You can read any of them as one offs.
Speaker B:
They're awesome.
Speaker B:
At one point, you see Godzilla as Venom.
Speaker B:
Sick.
Speaker B:
You see Godzilla with like the hand, gives him the original Symbiote, like the null thing.
Speaker B:
So he becomes Godzilla, the God Butcher.
Speaker B:
Yeah, Sick.
Speaker B:
I think he becomes a Silver Surfer at one point.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
It's just cool.
Speaker B:
They just.
Speaker B:
And I think what I like the most about this is even though it's not like a cohesive story, they insert him into different points of the heroes.
Speaker B:
Like classic battle backstories, basically.
Speaker B:
Like when Spider man first is like doing stuff with Black Cat.
Speaker B:
And Mary Jane was just coming back, Fantastic Four first dealing with like Galactus.
Speaker B:
So it's like they're inserting him into the story in a really unique way to kind of retell old stories that we're already familiar with.
Speaker B:
But add Godzilla.
Speaker B:
And the coolest part of that to me is The Justice League 1 has like the legendary Godzilla.
Speaker B:
This is very clearly like the OG Japanese Godzilla.
Speaker B:
And they even have like some of the Japanese lettering in the comic book covers, which really brings more to that.
Speaker B:
I'm just like, it's cool.
Speaker B:
I love it.
Speaker C:
This is like, show a Godzilla.
Speaker C:
And it's.
Speaker C:
It really speaks to the way the companies are these days, Marvel and dc.
Speaker C:
Because dc, you know, they're going for what's relevant, the money.
Speaker C:
They want Legendary.
Speaker C:
They want Kong, Godzilla, T Met Scylla, Bahamut.
Speaker B:
Like, they want cool.
Speaker C:
They want all the monarch Kaiju in there.
Speaker C:
And they get most of them.
Speaker C:
They get Methuselah, T. Matt.
Speaker C:
They do.
Speaker C:
And then Marvel's like, well, let's.
Speaker C:
We're going to play into the history.
Speaker C:
You know, we have like 100 years of comic book history to lean back on.
Speaker C:
Godzilla has like 100 years of Kaiju history to lean back on.
Speaker A:
Let's do it.
Speaker B:
And that's part of like, the problem of like comparing these is it really is like an anthology of short stories or this comprehensive story.
Speaker B:
It's technically a different character when you think of that version of Godzilla and King Kong and all them.
Speaker B:
So it's like, it seems like it would be natural to compare them because it's like, oh, Godzilla stories.
Speaker B:
But like, they're very different things, really.
Speaker B:
They also have another Marvel event that I didn't know about that's a Godzilla destroys the Marvel Universe.
Speaker B:
So I don't know if that's more of a coherent storyline or anything.
Speaker B:
It is.
Speaker B:
So I need to check that out.
Speaker B:
That's.
Speaker B:
list, which also came out in:
Speaker B:
So they just did both of these events this year.
Speaker B:
Marvel was like, we want Godzilla, but we want to do classic Godzilla.
Speaker B:
Then we also want to do our own new storyline with it.
Speaker B:
Why not?
Speaker B:
Why not do both?
Speaker B:
Yeah, it rocks, man.
Speaker B:
I got so much reading to do Next.
Speaker B:
All reading counts.
Speaker B:
Episode will be okay.
Speaker B:
But so first, if you had to just rate and review the first Justice League versus Godzilla versus Kong and the first series, Marvel versus Godzilla, where would you.
Speaker B:
Where would you rate these?
Speaker C:
Well, I think it's important mention that Marvel has actually done these before.
Speaker C:
They are much older Marvel vs Godzilla comic books that you can find.
Speaker C:
Godzilla vs Hulk is out there.
Speaker B:
Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.
Speaker B:
Was that one of these two?
Speaker B:
Do they do another God delivers Hulk?
Speaker C:
That was.
Speaker A:
I think they did really old.
Speaker C:
It's old.
Speaker C:
It's from like the 80s.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
odzilla versus Hulk is with a:
Speaker B:
So there's another thought I remembered reading that Gary Dugan.
Speaker B:
Yes, A P. I don't know how to Say these guys names, but Gary Dugan's writer, so that's cool.
Speaker A:
Yeah, pretty cool.
Speaker C:
Pretty awesome.
Speaker C:
They're both just like, turn your brain off.
Speaker C:
Watch these fights specifically, Godzilla versus Thor is a 10 easily.
Speaker C:
Easy 10.
Speaker B:
That's fair.
Speaker C:
It's awesome.
Speaker C:
I love Thor.
Speaker C:
Not as much as others and not to the like.
Speaker C:
I'm a casual Thor lover.
Speaker C:
You know, Thor shows up, I'm sitting down.
Speaker A:
Yeah, it's fair.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
I'm just not seeking him out.
Speaker C:
But every time I see Thor, that's peak.
Speaker C:
I love Thor.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
Well, once you get like the first blade, the hand, and all of that involved, I'm here for some reason.
Speaker B:
That part of Marvel lore, like, a lot of the, like, weird celestials and stuff.
Speaker B:
I don't care.
Speaker B:
Once you get like, the original symbiote in the hand, all that.
Speaker B:
I'm like, you got my attention.
Speaker B:
I'm here.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
That.
Speaker C:
That issue specifically, 10.
Speaker C:
Everything else, I'm giving a solid eight, including Justice League and Godzilla.
Speaker A:
Kong.
Speaker A:
All right.
Speaker C:
They're fun.
Speaker C:
Turn your brain off.
Speaker C:
Watch Heroes fight Godzilla.
Speaker A:
It runs.
Speaker A:
All right.
Speaker B:
I'm gonna do something similar.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
Godzilla versus Thor is a 10.
Speaker B:
I mean, Jason Aaron's just incredible.
Speaker B:
He can do no wrong.
Speaker B:
I think.
Speaker B:
I think that might be a thing.
Speaker C:
I think that's correct.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
For me, Spider man versus Godzilla, I'd probably give a 9 out of 10.
Speaker B:
I thought it was just awesome.
Speaker B:
Also.
Speaker B:
It's just.
Speaker B:
For me, it's fun.
Speaker B:
Like a lot of the Godzilla verse Marvel things.
Speaker B:
It's fun because it's like a short story.
Speaker B:
We know what's going on in the story.
Speaker B:
Then we're like, here's how bad If Godzilla showed up, it would just destroy the story.
Speaker B:
And I'm like, yeah, it's great.
Speaker B:
It's fun seeing them not just destroy buildings, but also storylines.
Speaker B:
You know, this is.
Speaker B:
This is awesome.
Speaker B:
Plus, just.
Speaker B:
It showed, like, peak who Peter Parker is just as a person.
Speaker B:
I was like.
Speaker B:
I was good.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
Oh, you know what else The Fantastic Four versus Godzilla reminded me a lot of?
Speaker C:
First steps.
Speaker B:
Yeah, me too.
Speaker B:
I was thinking that, like, this moment.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
All right, I'll give Justice League versus Godzilla versus Kong.
Speaker B:
For me, I'm gonna give that one eight and a half out of 10.
Speaker B:
And then think everything else gets a seven and a half out of 10.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
The other, like, four Marvel ones.
Speaker A:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:
That's where I'm at.
Speaker B:
So cool.
Speaker B:
So finding the good in the other, though, the ones that we.
Speaker B:
We didn't give higher rankings.
Speaker B:
So, like, the Fantastic Four the Avengers for you.
Speaker B:
The Justice League versus Kong versus Cuts of, like, what do you still love about them?
Speaker C:
They're just great.
Speaker B:
They're.
Speaker C:
They're good comics.
Speaker C:
The stories are conducive at least to Godzilla fighting our superheroes.
Speaker C:
That's what they are.
Speaker C:
They're super fun, you know, they don't all need to be Jason Aaron blowing my mind.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
Although, listen, if for some reason we can convince them to do Shin Godzilla versus Hellboy, I think I would love it just as much as any of these.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker A:
Easily.
Speaker C:
Easily, actually.
Speaker C:
But I will say, I do think, especially if we get justice league, Godzilla.
Speaker B:
Kong 2 gets a 9, so I definitely do that.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
But yeah, Mike Magnolia, get Shin Godzilla.
Speaker B:
Right.
Speaker B:
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker C:
That's it.
Speaker C:
That's all we're saying, Mike.
Speaker B:
That's our bonus episode.
Speaker B:
I'm just kidding.
Speaker B:
I don't think it is.
Speaker B:
Should be.
Speaker B:
But.
Speaker B:
But yeah, No, I think I agree.
Speaker B:
I think a lot of what I love is they still lean on, like, Godzilla's origins.
Speaker B:
All of these stories do the thing of, like, yeah, Godzilla wants us to care about the planet.
Speaker B:
The reason that he came up for Spider man was like, hey, Venom doesn't belong on this planet, and he's upset about it.
Speaker B:
And Spider man is doing that.
Speaker B:
Hey, means justify the ends.
Speaker B:
Of course I'm going to use this symbiote.
Speaker B:
And we see how terrible it turned out in that comic.
Speaker B:
And I'm like, yeah, a message against utilitarianism.
Speaker B:
I'm here for it.
Speaker B:
You know, you see the industrial stuff against Luke, and Luke likes Luther.
Speaker B:
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, this is what Godzilla was meant for.
Speaker B:
This is.
Speaker B:
They use him as a plot device, but this is how he was meant to be used.
Speaker B:
So I'm like, yeah, I love it.
Speaker B:
Although I do think he was a little bit more than a plot device in Jason Aaron's story.
Speaker B:
But that's because it's Jason Aaron and it rocks.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
It's so good.
Speaker C:
So good.
Speaker C:
Every once in a while, Jason Aaron's just like, what can I do to make gods or Thor more powerful?
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
Even counts as a storm.
Speaker B:
Oh, so funny.
Speaker B:
So how do you think each of these IPs, Marvel and DC relate both the comic and Godzilla universe Canonicity?
Speaker B:
Do you think they make it fit canon?
Speaker B:
Okay.
Speaker B:
Or they're just completely ignored canon for these stories?
Speaker C:
I think it mostly ignored canon.
Speaker C:
The ones I think fit the best are, well, dc, because they cop out, like, oh, different universe.
Speaker C:
So of course that does technically Fit.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
Thor's, I feel like, actually does fit a lot better, because.
Speaker C:
Sure, he could just be an alien.
Speaker B:
Why not?
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
They don't cover that part as deeply.
Speaker C:
And then Fantastic Four, I feel like, probably fits the best just because that's the kind of thing that they would deal with anyway.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
Celestials.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
Yeah, I definitely agree with you.
Speaker B:
Especially, like, yeah, D.C. with the alternate universes.
Speaker B:
That's what DC does.
Speaker B:
I feel like for Marvel, it fits the canon really well.
Speaker B:
If you paid attention to the canon previous to where the story was, they obviously are not going to continue the story as if Godzilla was there.
Speaker B:
That was never their intent.
Speaker B:
But as far as, like, historically, where it falls in line, they do a really good job of, like, assuming the canon of everything that happened to the hero beforehand.
Speaker B:
And just what if Godzilla was there?
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
Fantastic Four does feel like do it best, though.
Speaker B:
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker C:
And they get to blame Mo man for it.
Speaker B:
Of course.
Speaker B:
Of course.
Speaker B:
Natural course.
Speaker B:
Do you think that either Marvel or DC did a better job at scaling the Kaiju than the other?
Speaker B:
Like, for, like, power, strength, size?
Speaker C:
Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:
DC does a way better job just because it's consistent.
Speaker B:
Is it because it's the legendary universe and they're just bigger in the legendary universe, or is it.
Speaker C:
Well, they're bigger, less powerful?
Speaker C:
And then DC is like, the same team for each issue, or at least the same direction for each issue.
Speaker C:
In Godzilla, Thor, Godzilla's like a universal being.
Speaker B:
Awesome.
Speaker C:
Thor hits Godzilla with the power of the universe, and he lives.
Speaker B:
Of course.
Speaker B:
Why wouldn't he?
Speaker B:
He's Godzilla.
Speaker B:
So ignoring the.
Speaker B:
The Jason Run comic because Jason Run.
Speaker B:
Jason Aaron comic, because, again, he's too good.
Speaker B:
Do you think of the rest of them, did any of the other ones stand out as, like, using the Kaiju really well as characters rather than just plot devices?
Speaker C:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
I think we actually get a lot of good characterization out of D.C. just because it does, like, slow down a bit at times to give everyone that character moment.
Speaker C:
You know, Batman gets his time in the cave.
Speaker C:
Wonder Woman gets her time manipulating men into thinking she's weak because she's a woman.
Speaker C:
Classic Wonder Woman.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
Even Supergirl, you know, we get to see Superman's braggadocious cousin doing her thing fighting a giant gorilla.
Speaker B:
Of course.
Speaker B:
Why not?
Speaker C:
Of course.
Speaker C:
But moments like Green Arrow getting attacked, you know, just on Skull island, just like.
Speaker A:
Yep.
Speaker C:
Figure it out, man.
Speaker C:
You're on your own for now.
Speaker C:
I do think they spend a decent amount of time characterizing.
Speaker B:
Yeah, well, I was gonna say yeah, too.
Speaker B:
Like, not Just like the Kaiju.
Speaker B:
But do either Marvel or DC do better with the.
Speaker B:
Their own characters?
Speaker B:
You know, I mean, like, is anything brought up in this that you're like, oh, man.
Speaker B:
Like I mentioned Peter Parker because there is that scene of when he's fighting Godzilla and he realizes sound can do something.
Speaker B:
And he basically risks his life to use sound to save Godzilla from the Symbiote.
Speaker B:
Because he's like, this is my fault.
Speaker B:
Godzilla shouldn't even be here.
Speaker B:
I did this.
Speaker B:
And he puts his own life on the line.
Speaker B:
And you're like, wow, that's peak.
Speaker B:
Peter Parker.
Speaker B:
Do you think there are any of the other superheroes in either of these events that you're like, man, they really did a good job at showing who this character is.
Speaker B:
It's just who they are.
Speaker A:
I don't know.
Speaker C:
We get Thor.
Speaker C:
Thor being his cocky Thor.
Speaker C:
We get cocky Thor.
Speaker C:
I like that a lot.
Speaker C:
The Fantastic Four.
Speaker C:
Reed is humanity first.
Speaker C:
We need to do whatever we can.
Speaker C:
In dc, it's kind of.
Speaker C:
Kind of different because everyone's scared to lose Superman.
Speaker C:
Kaiju wise, I think.
Speaker C:
I think they all do a really good job.
Speaker C:
Godzilla's been through a lot.
Speaker C:
Legendary Godzilla now is just.
Speaker C:
If he has the inkling that you are hurting the planet, he's going to.
Speaker C:
He's going to mess you up.
Speaker C:
Or if you are a different Kaiju.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
I do think, though, for the.
Speaker B:
For the dc, like the Justice League verse, Godzilla versus Kong one.
Speaker B:
Because I haven't seen the second miniseries.
Speaker B:
I think they do a good job of one showing, like, Shazam.
Speaker B:
As a comparison to Superman.
Speaker B:
Like, when Superman's down, how does Shazam Fit these shoes?
Speaker B:
Not as good, but, like, I really like that they highlight him.
Speaker B:
There's one of the other ones I was like, I actually really like how they use that character.
Speaker B:
I do think Aquaman was made cooler than.
Speaker B:
You know, they've been doing good with that for a while, actually.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
Really cool in this because of course.
Speaker C:
Tiamat gets down there to Atlantis.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
And Aquaman's like, it's cracking time.
Speaker C:
It's time for the cracking.
Speaker B:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
I loved that.
Speaker B:
That we were like, we.
Speaker B:
We have our own Kaiju, actually.
Speaker B:
So, yeah, let's do this.
Speaker C:
That rock.
Speaker C:
And we do get a lot of great characterization out of Billy Batson.
Speaker C:
Because the reason Superman has to tank that atomic breath and just get.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
I mean, he dies.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
Goes back, but he dies is because Billy Batson.
Speaker C:
Shazam.
Speaker C:
Is stupid.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
And that would be a good idea to, you know, Shazam.
Speaker C:
While he was, like, being Held by Godzilla.
Speaker B:
Yeah, I forgot General Ross is in the Godzilla verse.
Speaker B:
Hulk from this run, which is the second time they fought, that you get some interesting characterization from him because, like, obviously he's like, yeah, we got to take Hulk down because he's a threat.
Speaker B:
And then it's like, is he a threat?
Speaker B:
Still want to take about right now or.
Speaker B:
Yeah, like, I loved that.
Speaker B:
That was cool.
Speaker B:
I think my biggest letdown was the Avengers.
Speaker B:
I feel like none of the Avengers really got much characterization.
Speaker B:
It was just a cop, which it was still a fun comic, but it was very much just your superheroes fighting Godzilla, which is awesome.
Speaker B:
Yeah, it was awesome.
Speaker B:
But, like, character wise, I don't think much happened there.
Speaker A:
No.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
Thor, on the other hand.
Speaker B:
Good.
Speaker B:
Jason Aaron is so good.
Speaker B:
This was our Jason Aaron podcast.
Speaker B:
Hope you guys enjoy Supergirl too.
Speaker B:
You mentioned her.
Speaker B:
I feel like she gets a little bit of.
Speaker B:
A little bit of character time.
Speaker C:
Yeah, she does.
Speaker C:
She does get a little.
Speaker C:
Little development.
Speaker C:
Nothing crazy because of course, you know, her thing is get Kong to where you can out fight Godzilla.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
And then she does her own thing with the Lex and the Toy Master.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
So usually this is where I would be, like, where do we hope happens next?
Speaker B:
But you already know.
Speaker B:
So, like, what.
Speaker B:
What are teasers for what happened next with, like, Godzilla destroys the Marvel Universe and Justice League versus Godzilla versus Kong 2?
Speaker C:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
So it's definitely a bigger, more cohesive scale for DC side of things.
Speaker C:
We're gonna be in the legendary verse.
Speaker C:
I'm predicting.
Speaker B:
Good prediction because he's read it, but.
Speaker C:
I say I look forward to it.
Speaker C:
Look forward to a lot more hero and villain interaction and characterization in that.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
Kaiju Killer, Kong, Kaiju King Shark are really the main things I need to hear.
Speaker B:
What about Godzilla destroys Marvel Universe?
Speaker C:
I don't remember.
Speaker B:
So we both have something to look forward to.
Speaker B:
What do we hope happens?
Speaker B:
I hope we get more actual character time.
Speaker B:
That's what I'm really hoping for.
Speaker B:
As much as I love Godzilla, it's more fun to see the actual characters interact.
Speaker B:
That's one I forgot.
Speaker B:
Lex, you do get a lot of characterization from Lex.
Speaker C:
A lot.
Speaker C:
He's the main driving antagonistic force.
Speaker C:
So.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
Which is funny because it's like Justice League versus Godzilla versus Kong, but really it's all of those versus, like, Luther really what?
Speaker C:
It is pretty good.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
Which, I mean.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
You still get this thing where, like, for me, and this is one of my big complaints of the James Gunn movie, it's where, like, Lex is a bad guy, where I still understand him without ever making it like a sympathetic bad guy.
Speaker B:
He's never a sympathetic bad guy, but he's one where I'm like, yeah, no, I get it.
Speaker B:
Superman and all that.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
That's terrifying.
Speaker B:
I agree, man.
Speaker B:
Godzilla, force of nature.
Speaker B:
I'm with a man.
Speaker B:
Like, yeah, okay, I get it.
Speaker B:
Let's make Mechagodzilla.
Speaker B:
Let's do something that we can control.
Speaker B:
Like, the desire for control.
Speaker B:
I understand the desire to have your own safety and future in your own hands.
Speaker B:
It's just.
Speaker B:
It's relatable.
Speaker B:
He's still just straight up a bad guy.
Speaker B:
So it's not, like sympathy, but it's like, at least I get it.
Speaker A:
Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker C:
I am.
Speaker C:
Also.
Speaker C:
If I was bald, I would do the same thing.
Speaker A:
Yeah, of course.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
But that's what.
Speaker B:
That was my problem with the James Gunn movie.
Speaker B:
It was like, oh, he was just jealous.
Speaker B:
And I'm like, yeah, that I just don't get.
Speaker B:
I get Superman being terrifying and wanting to do something about it and feel like you have your own destiny in your hands.
Speaker B:
I get just being jealous.
Speaker B:
That's just dumb.
Speaker B:
It's a dumb motivation.
Speaker B:
It bothers me a lot, actually.
Speaker B:
But anyway, I digress.
Speaker B:
As far as, like, things go, though, is there anything, like, we can learn from this?
Speaker B:
Like, a lot of times when we watch Godzilla movies, we're like, oh, here's this thing we're doing or playing it, and we should learn to be better.
Speaker B:
A lot of times with our superheroes, we're like, here's something we want to aspire to or a villain we want to not be like, is there anything here that we're like, man, I want to be like Godzilla and have nuclear breath.
Speaker C:
That's my main takeaway.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
It's pretty much, hey, don't turn your sentient crocodile friends into giant monsters.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
I mean, if you're.
Speaker C:
If.
Speaker C:
If you get too important at your job, it's gonna be really hard to take time off.
Speaker C:
That's what we learn in what we learned from Superman.
Speaker A:
True.
Speaker B:
I mean, in all seriousness, like, I do think it's one of those where, like, learning to have.
Speaker B:
Be open with people about what you're doing and having a backup plan is actually probably pretty important.
Speaker B:
Not like Superman.
Speaker B:
I think if he relied on his friends better, it might not have been as terrible.
Speaker B:
When he got defeated, they would already know what he does and be able to try to do something.
Speaker B:
But most of them had no idea how much he was even taking on.
Speaker B:
This might speak to me A little bit.
Speaker B:
I'm not sure how much our own podcast people know what I.
Speaker B:
How much I do for the podcast.
Speaker C:
Too much.
Speaker B:
It's true.
Speaker B:
But.
Speaker B:
And then, yeah, like, Lex, he's just a bad guy, but at the same time, like, I do think there is something learned of this.
Speaker B:
Like, we lean on our own ability to create our own, like, desires to be the best.
Speaker B:
So much like he is.
Speaker B:
The I, like Lex is if you take the pursuit of the American dream to the logical extreme, that's what it looks like, right?
Speaker B:
Like, when all you care about is power, being the best and having control of your own destiny, it can get to a point where it drives you to destroying everything around you because you're so set on being the best.
Speaker B:
So, like, I feel like that's probably an important message.
Speaker A:
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:
The Marvel ones, it's harder again, because it's like an anthology of short stories.
Speaker B:
You know, Fantastic Four, the typical, like, yeah, being a family, it's good.
Speaker B:
Spider Man, I feel like it's probably the most important one where he's like, hey, I assumed that I.
Speaker B:
The ends justified the means and did not think about, you know, I don't know, all the possible outcomes.
Speaker B:
He was assuming that even though it was doing something to him, that it was fine.
Speaker B:
And I think it was a good illustration of, like, hey, you say the ends justify the means, but sometimes you don't actually know what's going to happen.
Speaker B:
You don't know all the repercussions of your actions.
Speaker B:
Something's wrong.
Speaker B:
Maybe just don't do it.
Speaker A:
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:
But I think those are my main takeaways.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
Talk about Kaiju.
Speaker B:
At the end of the day, would you.
Speaker B:
You would prefer reading Justice League versus Godzilla versus Kong?
Speaker C:
I would prefer reading specifically Thor.
Speaker C:
And if I can't just read Thor, then yeah, I would read Justice League versus Godzilla versus Kong.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
I mean, I want to say the Marvel verse, Godzilla, I would still prefer, primarily because of the Hulk one that I forgot about.
Speaker B:
Spider man and Thor, obviously, but as a whole cohesive story, you know, like, there's the other parts of the Marvel one.
Speaker B:
I'm like, I don't want.
Speaker B:
I don't need to read the Fantastic Four, X Men or Avengers ones again.
Speaker B:
But as a cohesive thing, the Justice League one, I'm like, yeah, I need to read again before I read the Justice League versus Godzilla versus Kong 2, which I absolutely have to read.
Speaker B:
And that one I'm actually am going to reread.
Speaker C:
It's a lot of cool Bat Family moments.
Speaker A:
Oh, yeah, well, they do.
Speaker C:
They do pretty much a similar thing as Spider man when he, you know, Spider Man's able to recognize that the symbiote's weakness is sound.
Speaker C:
And the bat family being, you know, six, seven geniuses, they discover that Godzilla actually has the same weakness.
Speaker C:
So they, normal people, of course, put their lives on the line to join this Godzilla fight.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
And it's pretty fun.
Speaker C:
It is nice to see the bat family interact with each other, including Red Hood.
Speaker B:
That is cool, actually, which is pretty sweet about that.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
I did think of one other thing that I liked about both of these stories before we wrap up, too.
Speaker B:
Even though Justice League was like the legendary Godzilla things and they're just kind of like continuing Justice League story, it was very much felt like old school kind of comic book storytelling.
Speaker A:
Right.
Speaker B:
Of like, there's good guys and bad guys.
Speaker B:
Like, there wasn't, like, they weren't trying to nuance Lex in them.
Speaker B:
Lex just straight up had, like, the League of Villainry or whatever it's called.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
And I don't know, something about that old school feel to both was, I don't know, refreshing.
Speaker B:
I enjoyed it.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker C:
They dropped the pretense.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
I think sometimes comic books try too hard to be serious.
Speaker B:
You could still be something that's meant for all ages and that adults can enjoy, like pretending to be something you're not.
Speaker B:
And I'm glad that they.
Speaker B:
They don't do that.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
All right, well, then I guess we'll.
Speaker B:
We'll start wrapping up a little bit of a shorter episode.
Speaker B:
But, you know, sometimes that happens.
Speaker B:
Sometimes it happens.
Speaker B:
We unfortunately didn't have the budget to just show Godzilla destroying things on screen for a while, or else this would be a much longer episode.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
We're gonna go ahead and wrap.
Speaker B:
Start wrapping this one up.
Speaker B:
Of course we're going to do recommendations.
Speaker B:
Tj, what.
Speaker B:
What recommendations do you have for.
Speaker B:
For me and our listeners, Godzilla versus.
Speaker C:
Or Justice League versus Godzilla versus Kong two.
Speaker C:
It's really good.
Speaker C:
Alternatively, absolute Martian Manhunter.
Speaker C:
Phenomenal.
Speaker B:
I forgot about that.
Speaker B:
I have it on.
Speaker B:
I think I downloaded it and just didn't.
Speaker B:
Just did not.
Speaker C:
Absolutely phenomenal so far.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
I'm trying to remember.
Speaker B:
There was a King Shark comic that I really liked.
Speaker B:
Here it is.
Speaker B:
It was a 20, 21 run.
Speaker B:
It's just King Shark.
Speaker B:
It was awesome.
Speaker B:
I think it was part of, like, a Suicide Squad series, but it was just King Shark Suicide.
Speaker A:
Yes.
Speaker B:
Suicide Squad.
Speaker B:
King Shark issues one through six.
Speaker B:
So it was only six issues.
Speaker B:
I really enjoyed it back, then I'm gonna be reading it again.
Speaker B:
There's an orca involved, so that's cool.
Speaker B:
Also, yeah, I guess Justice League verse God delivers Kong too, because I'm about to read that again.
Speaker B:
Seems like I missed out.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
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