I had the pleasure of joining Brenda Jasmin, on her podcast She Flourishes, to explore cultivating inner peace and attracting positivity in a chaotic world.

As the host of A Call for Love, I shared insights from my journey and discussed practical strategies for living a more grounded and fulfilling life. Here’s what you’ll learn:

• How to Attract Like-Minded People: Discover the qualities that draw positivity and supportive connections into your life.
• Setting Healthy Boundaries: Learn effective ways to manage interactions with difficult people while maintaining your inner peace.
• The Power of Meditation: Understand how meditation can transform your mindset, especially if you have an active mind.
• Navigating Chaos with Mindfulness: Get tips on handling life’s challenges with grace and maintaining calm amidst turmoil.
• Embracing Self-Love and Responsibility: Explore the impact of self-love on global harmony and personal growth.

This episode is full of inspiring conversations packed with practical tools and heartfelt wisdom.

Whether you're seeking to enhance your self-awareness or find more peace in your daily life, this episode will offer valuable insights and motivation.

Tune in to hear how you can shine your light even when the world feels chaotic!

Linda's Website https://www.globalwellnesseducation.com/

About Linda:

Have you ever battled overwhelming anxiety, fear, self-limiting beliefs, soul fatigue or stress? It can leave you feeling so lonely and helpless. We’ve all been taught how to be courageous when we face physical threats but when it comes to matters of the heart and soul we are often left to learn, "the hard way."

As a school teacher for over 30+ years, struggling with these very issues, my doctor suggested anti-anxiety medication but that didn't resonate with me so I sought the healing arts. I expanding my teaching skills and became a yoga, meditation, mindfulness, reiki and sound healer to step into my power and own my impact. 

A Call for Love will teach you how to find the courage to hold space for your fears and tears. To learn how to love and respect yourself and others more deeply.  

My mission is to guide you on your journey. I believe we can help transform the world around us by choosing love. If you don’t love yourself, how can you love anyone else? Join a call for love. 

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It feels like there's a lot of chaos going on in the world right now. So finding and protecting our inner peace is crucial, whether we're grappling with personal challenges or even facing global issues, learning how to find peace amidst the chaos, and possibly more important how to protect it is essential, and this is what you'll learn today on a call for love, Episode 73 I am sharing with you my interview on she flourishes with Brenda Jasmine. And Brenda and I have connected because our missions align beautifully. She's the host of she flourishes podcast, which really focuses on empowering women to live their best lives, which is like the mission of a call for love. And I think you'll love this episode, because you'll learn how to connect with your personal power by showing up in your life and releasing the fear that keeps you small. We always have those self limiting beliefs. And so together, Brenda and I weave together how to stay grounded and true to ourselves, even when everything around us seems to be turbulent, there may be just one thing. It always seems like there's just one thing weighing heavy on your heart or life, waking up in the morning. Everything's great, but there's just that one thing that may be challenging you, or you may find that you're avoiding it, pushing it away, covering it up, shopping over it, drinking over it, eating over it, whatever it is. What's that one thing? And in this episode, you'll learn how to hold space for this one thing and work through it. You'll also learn strategies for embracing and navigating, yes, those big emotions, always through resilience and self compassion. Brenda and I really share such a deep, transformative and empowering conversation here, and I would love you to listen to it. Listen to it and share it with somebody who could benefit from this message, because we're all in this together. We're all in this human experience together. So let's dive in and listen to my chat with Brenda Jasmine, first airing on the she flourishes podcast,

hello and welcome to the she flourishes podcast. I am super excited to introduce you to my guest today, because she is a fellow podcaster, and not only is she a fellow podcaster, but we actually live in the same city. And I have to say it's pretty rare. I have not met many fellow podcasters, let alone fellow podcasters that that live in the same city as me, just outside of Toronto here. So I am super excited to introduce you to Linda Orsini. Linda is a speaker, an educator, an author and an advocate for personal health and wellness. Linda is a certified Reiki master, a sound healer, a meditation guide, a yoga teacher, and she has taken her 30 years experience as a school teacher and all of these different modalities she's certified in, and she has applied those to her holistic approach of Being a founder of global wellness education. She is also, as I said, a podcaster, and she hosts the inspiring podcast called a call for love. Linda is passionate about helping women transform their relationships with their thoughts and emotions and through a combination of her mindset, work movement practices and meditation techniques. She guides women to heal them from the fear that keeps them small and to awaken their highest selves in her program called Emotional Freedom, Linda's mission is to empower you to discover your personal power, purpose and passion, enabling you to fill a life filled with more joy, love and abundance. Well, that sounds like flourishing to me, so I think you're in the right place here. Linda on the she flourishes podcast, welcome to the show.

Oh, thank you, Brenda. I'm so excited to be here. It feels really good, and it feels so aligned.

Yes, it does. It does. And Linda, I don't think we've met in person, but we've talked on the phone, and we we've kind of known of each other and our share, you know, some mutual contacts, and I think read in similar circles, but I'm not sure we've actually met in person before. Well,

when I see you on social media, I see you with the peeps that I know. Which is so interesting. So it's time,

it is time, and you had also done a live podcast event. So we both did live podcast anniversary events, and that's how we got recently connected. And I am just really wanting to hear more about not only your podcast, but the work that you do in the world, because I know from us being in the same community that the work you do is very powerful, and people that have taken your program have really, really benefited. So, so first of all, though, I'm just curious like so you've been running your podcast for a year now.

I started just after you. So I my episode. I have 60 episodes and eight free bonus meditations. So 68 Yeah,

68 Okay, so I would love to hear, first of all, what made you decide to start a podcast, and just really even to understand what a call for love means, so our listeners really understand, you know what, what your podcast is about, but just, can you just share a little bit of that journey? Because I just think it's so fascinating to hear what inspires people to start their podcast.

I am so grateful you asked, because I really find inspiration from how I started the podcast. Because I feel like we all want abundance. You know, we all want to do well. We all want to thrive. We want to find our purpose be of service. And I was lying in bed one morning, that's when most of my inspirations happen, actually, in the morning. And I was like, you know, praying to the universe. And I thought, you know, the universe is thinking, Yeah, okay, but what are you going to do about it? And I thought, you know, I have to prove myself and and the only way I'm going to do it is to put myself out of them, on a limb. And so I created a mantra, which is, fuck fear, show up and shine. Because I thought if, if I'm asking the universe for me to step into, you know, my purpose. What am I going to do about it? So I decided that I was going to put myself out of an LM, as I said, really be authentic and show up every week, dedicated. And the moment, I decided that I have never missed a week of my podcast. Never missed a newsletter, and it helped me create a direction. It helped me really find my voice. Actually, I thought I was doing it for others, to offer it to the world, and then as it progressed and unfolded, I realized it was helping me find my voice, find my purpose. And ever since I made that clear intention, I feel like there's been this red carpet rolled out right in front of me where things are just rolling because, you know, I'm consistently showing up and and doing the best that I can is a perfect No, but it is the best that I can do.

Beautiful. Yes, it's so true, right? When we really step into into something, whatever it is like we were maybe called to do something, where we get that little voice, that intuition, that nudge to start something. And I love this fuck fear and show up and shine. I love it. And if you, for those of you listening, you won't be able to see Linda, but her color is her brand. Color is yellow. So talk and you do shine. You really do shine, Linda and and I just think I'm really taking this to heart this I really need to hear that little mantra of yours today. So thank you for that. And today we are going to be talking. I would like to talk more about that, how we can buck fear and show up and shine. I think I have. I'm going to lose my clean rating on my podcast today. I don't think we've dropped any F bombs on the show before, so thank you for that. But what we said we were going to talk about today, before we hopped on here, is really to talk about like, how do we find our peace and in the world, right? How do we in a world that maybe doesn't always feel so peaceful? How do we find our peace and protect our peace? And I think this whole idea, though, of just even you know, deciding to show up and shine and be ourselves and be authentic that you know can be. A way I would imagine that would help us. Would you agree to to find our peace?

I think that,

I think peace is there. It's just that it gets covered. You know, it's like Michelangelo. He chipped away the marble until he found the angel within. And I think that we get distracted and going back to the beginning, when you had asked me really what a call for love is, I'd like to actually connect it with one of your episodes toxic positivity. Because what my messages, and what I have come to know to be true for myself is that we have a whole range of emotions. And I am a student of A Course in Miracles, and they say there's two main emotions, there's love and there's fear. Now fear. People will say, Oh, well, I'm not fearful. But if you have a worry that becomes a bigger worry and loss of worries, then it becomes under the umbrella of fear, and it also under the umbrella of fear you have anger, jealousy, sadness, depression, and we don't want to cover it up like spiritually bypass and shut those things down. We want to be authentic and true. And so a call for love is knowing where you stand. Are you in a place of love which is light in your highest self and purity of just loving kindness, or are you on the other side? Are you in the lower vibrations of fear, stress, anxiety, drama, all those things, and so it's just noticing where you're standing and saying, Oh, I'm not in a loving space. So there is a call for love, and I will shift there, not when everyone tells me to shift, but when I'm ready. And so then the goal is, is to when you have processed it, when you have felt it, and through mindfulness, self compassion is my really go to and meditation. When you can hold space for that, then you can shift. You can shift into the higher vibration of love, which is the highest vibration.

Okay, so if I understand what you're saying correctly, so a call for love is when you when you notice you're not in a loving place and you're feeling the fear, the anxiety, the anger, the worry, whatever, however that shows up, then that is, that's a call to you, like a message, a call From the universe. Hello. It's a call, um, for love, that it's saying You Need Love Is that, am I understanding that correctly? Linda,

yes. So it's not just love outwards. It's even self love. It's love. So I had interview with my colleague, Monica, and we had said that love is actually spirit, right? Love is the highest source. So when you are not feeling your best, it's okay, it's okay to not feel your best, but at least know that you're not feeling your best, offer yourself some loving kindness, do things that help nurture your your heart or those emotions, and then say, When I'm ready, when I'm able, I'm going to shift. It's a call for love. It's a call to, you know, move through it, possibly let go or heal it, whatever that may look like to you,because there are many paths to liberation, and then to step into that really beautiful vibration of loving yourself, the planet, the animals, others, everyone which is in a state of peace, loving kindness.

This is so good, I know in positive psychology, they talk about different emotions, and they ask people like, how much would they spend? I don't know if you've heard of the study, how much you would spend for to experience different emotions. And the emotion that people would pay the most to feel is love, like that, they say. And Barbara Fredrickson, who talks about emotions, says, like, love is like the superior emotion. It's like you said, it's the the top emotion, the one that we all really want. So I love this. What you're saying is, you know, it's a call to move through it, to move through the field. Ear to heal yourself, and you're saying, there's lots of different ways to do that, and that when we feel this self love, we can feel more more peace. What I guess my question like, is, we always try and bring it to the practical. But first of all, I guess it would be, how do you notice that? Like, what might it look like for someone to realize that they're in a place where love is calling, or they're being asked, like, it would be helpful for them to start moving through how would you notice it? That's the first part of my question. And then I guess the second thing is, like, once you notice it, you said there's, yeah, there are all these different modalities. But what are some ways that maybe we can, we can, can do something about it. But let's just start with, how do you know when maybe you maybe need to move through some of those emotions to get to that place of feeling more love?

The Great question, Brenda, and the thing is, is that we are spiritual beings living this human experience. And I know many, many people, and I have a really great life, I feel a lot of abundance, a lot of blessings. But being part of this human experience, there's always going to be something there's always like the tale of two cities. It was the best of the times. It was the worst of times. We have so much greatness in our life. Especially, I feel very privileged where we live. There's peace and abundance, but there's always one thing. It could be one thing within you or a relationship. It does not have to be 100 things. And it's one thing that's kind of like that trigger, that pressing point that's like really showing what's up inside you, and I believe that we are really oblivious to it most of the time. You know, we avoid it. If it's a person or a situation or a feeling, we avoid it. We avoid it. Push it away, cover it up shop over it, drink over it, eat over it, whatever. And how we notice, which is my truest passion, is through stillness. I am a meditation guide, and my mission is to welcome you home to yourself, right? It's befriending yourself and the we are the hardest critics on ourselves, and she flourishes, I know is dedicated to women who are the most critical, from what I've seen, that inner critic. And so it's not about forgetting who we are. It's about befriending who we are. And that takes courage. It takes courage to sit in silence and kind of open the Pandora's box to see what's inside. And that's why I love to guide meditation in a group, because in Sangha, in community, we come together, supporting each other, to hold space for all our emotions. Because when you create the intention and attention and awareness, then you know it becomes like right there on the platter, and you realize you're not really going to die from jealousy. You're not really going to die from, you know, disappointment. These are just emotions and feelings, but they are not who you really are. And so the first thing is we have to notice them. And that takes courage. It takes stillness and it takes silence. It takes listening to the inner stirrings of your heart and soul. And so I believe, through meditation, that kind of opens the door and then you want to invite self compassion.

Yes, it's so I there's a lot to unpack there, and I it's so interesting. I was just thinking this morning. It's funny, you say that about like there's always something. I was just thinking that this morning, I was thinking, no matter what's going on in our lives, like there's always something, right? There's always like, I don't know about you, Linda, I haven't had many days I don't think, in my life where I wake up in the morning and I think, wow, like, I have nothing that I'm worrying about. Maybe before I had kids, I had less, I don't know, but do you like I do you really like? And maybe that's something I need to work on. But no, like, there's always something right. Like, there's always a little niggly like, Oh, I'm thinking about, you know, we have a family member who hasn't been well and like, you know, that kind of pops into my mind, like, oh, like, so I don't know, like, there's very few times in life when I think we can look around and say, in our own life and everybody we love, that everything is, is hunky dory, as we say, Everything's perfect, right? There's always something a little niggly, something that kind of, you know, muddies the water a little bit. And so I think part of that is accepting, right? That's life like life is gonna and there's, there's definitely times we're dealing with bigger curveballs and more more of a crisis situation. But then there are those days when you know it's it's okay, but there's still maybe a little something would you do? You think that's kind of fair to say?

Absolutely, our ego, our ego's looking for something to worry about, or to what it thinks to protect us from it. I think we're programmed, honestly, like that,

yes, right? Yeah, looking for threats like the negativity bias, right? Yeah. You're in our ego and, yeah, what is it? What is it that we need to kind of and our brain wants to grab on to something? So I So, I guess if we accept that, you know, there are going to be things, but you're saying too, sometimes there's things going on, and it's not that we're even aware and thinking, Oh, that thing's bothering me. What you're saying is, actually, we're busy. We're maybe eating or drinking or avoiding numbing out because we're we don't want to look at these things or these emotions. And if I understand what you're saying, you're saying like one of the tools that you think is the most powerful is when you're meditating, because that force that gets us sitting in that stillness when we really can see what what's maybe bothering us, or what emotions are coming up.

It's true that I have a program that I've created called Emotional Freedom. And what it is is that we often blame other people, right? He said this. She did that. They you know, this organization did this. The world is doing this. You know, the economy. And we're always projecting outwards, and what happens is that when you create deeper awareness, it's a chance to raise your consciousness in order to realize that the world is a mirror to us. And so it takes examination. It takes really turning inward. And the power of our mind, as I'm trained in hypnotherapy, is just huge. This is huge. And so, yeah, we really want to, we want to notice those things. And instead of projecting outwards, notice, and that's what I say in the course, find your personal power. Because if, if you are saying to somebody, you did this, this happened, you are, you are giving away your power to the other person or to the circumstance. But when you say, oh, you know what? I can change my perspective, I can change my mindset, I can change my actions, you become empowered, and you're not waiting for other people. If I had to wait for some people, that would not be a good thing. But when I know that I have the power to change my reactions and my thoughts, then I'm more empowered. I think

those of you listening will really be nodding your head right now, and I think we're all guilty of that, right where we blame others, or, Oh, if only this person would do this, or if only that thing happened, then, you know I would be happy, or, you know, everything would be okay. And yet, you know, it's more uncomfortable to say I'm responsible, or, you know, or I need to take responsibility. I can't wait, wait around, right for someone else to do it for me. I need to to do it myself, and I need to take responsibility for my own emotions. I think, I think that's really, really powerful, but that's uncomfortable too, because we don't always want to, right, like, who want? It's much easier and faster. Don't you fight to just blame everybody else.

It is, it is faster. It doesn't but it is certainly faster, yeah,

and and no, not easier in the long run, definitely. So and this program of yours, I want to hear more about it afterwards, although I just think maybe we, well, we can talk more about. That I before we hopped on to you and I were talking about, about how so we live in this world, and, you know, definitely in the last number of years, you know, we were saying, you know, there's like, there's always something in our personal lives, there's always something in the world, right? Like, same thing, right? Do you ever look at a news the newspaper, and it's like, oh, it's just all good news today. No, right? The newspapers would go out of business, the the media, right? It's always like, what's wrong? Pay attention to this. Look at all these things that are wrong in the world. And then that's not, you know, we think it's like, right now, like, oh, elections and the economy and the climate and and post pandemic, all of that. But even before that, we always had things that we were concerned about in the world. And so we're concerned about our own lives. We're concerned about what's going on in the world. And so if we want to live in this place of love, in this place of peace, it can sound a little bit Pollyanna. And yet it's so important, because we can just throw our hands up in the air and say, Oh, the world is, you know, going to hell in a handbasket, right? And what can I do about it? And my little corner of the world, and and then we just, we worry about all the things that are going on. And then we just kind of walk around with this worry or this anxiety without doing anything about it. And what you are inviting people to do is to say, actually, no, like, you can definitely, we're concerned about all that, but you can do some things within you can do, you know you can it can be a call for love. And there are things that you can do. So what would you recommend? Because I was going to say for those of us, but I think all of us are in that situation where we're concerned about the world right now. How can we, like find peace in all of that? And so I know you talked about meditation, and do you want to just say more about, like, maybe the mindset too around and what we can do so we don't just end up feeling terrible about what's going on in the world. Okay,

so let's take an example. You know, I heard somewhere there's about 30 wars going on at this time, 30 wars. And you say, I'm a really peaceful person, you know, I take care of my body, I take care of my family, I law abiding citizen, but you know what, I won't talk to that person, this one person. And so what I'm saying is that that's an act of violence. Actually, when you have cut somebody off, or you're not talking to them, it's it's not in terms of violence, like aggression, but it is a low vibration when you are saying, Why is somebody else fighting? But then I'm having fighting in my heart with that one person. You could have 1000 people in your life, but there could be that one person, and if you really took a look at it, how you're ignoring or you blocked them, or, you know, you try to avoid them, or you are thinking terrible, not so nice things about them, or even in your words, then really you're doing the same thing on a much smaller scale. So if you want to see peace in the world, it has to begin with you in any small way. And as we had talked about this before we started recording, Eckhart Tolle, you want to raise your consciousness so the more you raise that vibration, the more you raise that so that there's not just that one person, but where you can, I wouldn't say, My mom always used to say, you don't have to like everybody, But you you need to love them because they're a human being? And so I kind of think of that I don't have to necessarily want to go out with tea with everybody, but I don't want to have to wish them ill will. And so it becomes, that's where it starts with us. It starts really noticing in our lives. And, you know, be the example. You know, as a school teacher for over 30 years, don't do as I say, do as I do. Right? What actions are we leading? We are, you know, showing our children, showing our friends we're living by example. In fact, in A Course in Miracles, you're really not supposed to teach it. You're supposed to live it. And then people come to you and say, Oh, what are you doing? Where you look like joy, like love, like what? What are you doing? That gets you there. And so you want to live from. That essence. And, you know, it's funny, because one vibration attracts another, and so when you start doing that work, the people around you come out of the woodwork too. I like, I look around at me, I can't believe how many beautiful people I have in my life like it's astound and I'm meeting them more every day, and I'm so grateful, and I feel so blessed, but we're all doing the work. And so the higher you go, for instance, if you're dating, you know, and you're in the slums, you know, what are you going to attract, right? So the higher, the more you work on yourself, the more you're attracting.

I think that's how I attracted you into my life, I think, and how we got connected, right? I think it's that being a person out there in the world who's who's doing this work, and I think that is so important to think about. And actually, before this morning, I was just taking a course and and that was, now it was more of a business course, but interesting. They were saying something very similar. They were saying, you know, if you want to attract, let's say clients that are action takers, like you need to be an action taker. Or if you want to like, so, whatever you want to be attracting, you need to be emulating that you need to be so. So I love that how you said, you know you're you're peaceful, you're showing up with joy, and then you're attracting people who are like that, or who who want that, and you're willing to make the commitment to that work. I think that's so great. And thank you. I want to go back to what you said, because I did have a little bit of a when you said, Oh, we have to, like, you know, it's an active that felt harsh to me, like it's an act of violence, like, because we all have that one person, right? Or, I know,

I saw your face and I was like, it is shocking, but it's, it's, you know, could be a strong word, but basically, that's what you're saying here, and I'm saying too there's that one person, and there's always going to be one thing, one circumstance, one experience, one person somewhere in our life that is just pushing our buttons.

And and I love how you said and so, yeah, I had that little reaction, like, but then what helped me was when you said, you know, it's not that, because there's sometimes we have boundaries, and, you know, I'm not going to be everyone's cup of tea, and everyone's not going to be my cup of tea, right? Like, we don't have to be friends with everyone. And there might be people that you feel like they're just not, not your person, or there's something that's happened in the past, and we need to have healthy boundaries. And so I love what you're saying. It's like, well, it doesn't mean we have to go out for tea with them, and we can still wish them well and send them love and not not wish them ill will. So I think I'm glad you made that distinction, Linda, because I think there will be, you know, people listening. If you're listening and you're thinking, I'm not, you know, I still, you know, have that person, but I love this concept of it doesn't mean you know you can still be loving you just you don't have to hang out with them.

Oh no, you you know we're not going to connect with everybody, but what is your inner dialog saying about that person? Are you really sending them vile thoughts and comments, or are you just saying, you know, I'm going to maintain my boundary because I have certain standards, and that's fine, but I do. I wish you well. You know you don't have to be in my life, but there's a there's a difference. You could call it a fine line, but really, if you wrote out what was going on in your mind on a piece of paper and showed it to somebody, would you want that person to read it? That's what I'm saying. It's because we can think very strongly and negatively about experiences or people,

and that is not going to help us to find peace. We need to get we need to accept and move on. Okay, so you talked about this, about meditation being a really powerful tool, and that idea of stillness, and then you, you, you see the different emotions that you have, and then needing to have the courage, I guess, to look at those. And yet, I don't know, like I do find that, you know, some people love meditation, and they're, you know, it's great. And I just heard some people, where was I? I just heard someone the other day saying, and this is why I can't meditate because I have too many things going on in my mind and and it doesn't work for me. I heard someone say that just yesterday. So what would you say to that person?

Well, who's running the show? Who's running the show? Because our mind is a muscle. You. And our mind, if we wrote down or recorded everything that our mind is saying, it's never ending. And the thing is, is that the dangerous part of that is we believe everything we think. And that's very dangerous just because you think it doesn't mean that it's true. And so for people who meditation, you can't go from 100 to zero like you can't it's too much if you have anxiety, if you have panic attacks, it I do not suggest meditating. I suggest running, going for a walk in nature, do, possibly attending a yoga class and gradually moving to that stillness, or in the middle of the night when you can't sleep, or if you wake up, maybe doing a little mindfulness practice to help you fall asleep. But I do not suggest meditation for people who their mind is just too running too rampant. But if your mind is so fast and so furious, then it's just something to notice that who's running the show.

Okay, thank you for that. So for people that are feeling that way and and so, yeah, it's almost like meditation is too big of a leap. It's like that's maybe further down the road. So start with some of these other other techniques, and then you move into meditation. Absolutely. You

know, solitary confinement, in in a prison, the hardest thing is to be alone with yourself. There's no picnic. You want to really go slow. And I guide meditation all the time, and I say the only bad meditation is the one you never did. And even if you created one sliver, one second of white space, I call it a meditation Halo. You know that little space that you created has like a psychological effect. As you move on through your day, you're not so reactive. And that's the thing with meditation is and I saw it with my students too. We're really reactive, and when you learn the skill of stepping back, you can be more responsive. It gives you more control over your life,

and that's what we need, right? Like going back to what you were saying, like, if we're, you know, having negative thoughts or negative emotions about other people we're adding to the problems in the world. We're adding to, you know, the lack of peace. Whereas if we are able to, you know, tap into into something like mindfulness, something like meditation and feeling more of that peace, then that's going to help us and help the world in turn.

Yeah, we need to embody, we need to be the change we seek in the world. If we want to find, if we want the world to be peaceful, respectful, you know, kind and loving. It first begins with ourselves. How can we expect others when you know there could be one, even if it's a small area, but I would think that there's always one area where you know you can really work through that in order to be the change you seek in the world you know, instead of casting stones,

be the change you seek in the world. And that's the famous Gandhi quote. I love that. And I think that's such a good answer to so many things. And yeah, when we do look around so for when you're feeling like, you know, the world is falling apart, or your own world, or, you know, even your community to be that change. And I just, I think that's really beautiful. And it can just be so small, right? It can be like, just in our community, like, who are we being, how are we showing up? And I just think that it gives us something to do, instead of, I just don't think it's healthy right to look around and and just feel terrible all the time when we see what's going on in the world,

absolutely. And it could start very small. You know somebody taking your parking spot, you know what's going through your mind. Like we can start really small, but if you start to notice all those thoughts, and that's what stillness does, mindfulness or meditation, if you notice it, then, as I said, you might be in that place, but it's a call for love. It doesn't mean you're going to say, Oh, I love that person right away, but or I love that. Circumstance right away, because, as you said, that's, it's not true. It's not true to who we are. But if you can say, you know, this is how I'm feeling right now, and I just going to be with that right now, but you know, eventually, I want to, you know, just just feel that peace inside, send that loving message out to that person and say, you know, for instance, this is very silly, but it's a little example. I had this beautiful Mando, a Manduka yoga mat. I bought it. It was nice purple. It had little sparkles in it. It was like, ready. And I left it to at the front in my old studio, and I came back and it was gone, and there was this brown lot. Oh, really, Matt left. Now, I don't know if it was an accident or whatever, but, you know, I still think of that, and I think I hope that Matt is bringing that person joy, like, if it's not bringing me joy, I hope it brings them joy.

Sorry, it's just too funny. It's like the yoga mat gets taken from the yoga instructor, and she flips out, right? No, it's like, it's like, a test, right? How peaceful Are you? Yeah, prove it. It's

proven. Yeah, you take my, my one, um, one artifact that I need to practice. Yeah,

it is. It is, and yet, yeah, you're right. And then just to be able to twist and it doesn't mean, yeah, you're not going to have that initial emotion of, like, oh my god, right, or being upset or being disappointed, but then being able to, like, move through it, and then get to that place of, well, I hope whoever has it is, you know, really enjoying, really enjoying it now that

I remember it means that it's still in me, right? Well, noticing it, but that's okay, because, you know, my initial react, this is the thing, reaction versus response. My reaction is, oh, I missed that yoga mat. And then when I come into my higher self, I'm like, you know, it's a thing, and I hope it brings them joy, because I still have a yoga mat that I can practice on, but you know, it wasn't the sparkly, beautiful, purple one.

Yeah, I think you need to invest in another one, and maybe you put a lock on I don't think there's a way to do that, but

trust me, I have a couple yoga mats, so I do get my num nice, purple, sparkly whatnot.

And I think this is just a perfect example, too. How, like you talked about, you mentioned the toxic positivity or the spiritual bypassing, right? Like, if you just jump straight to, oh, that's okay. Like, I'm sure someone else is enjoying it, like, you know, we're human, and you're going to have those initial emotions of disappointment, or whatever those emotions are, but then being able to move through them and get to out to that other place exactly.

And that's I love how you say that. Brenda, because I always say this too. It's a moving through. That's why a call for love is a progression. It's not a jump, right? It's so unfair to think that we're going to jump, but can we have as smooth as possible transition? And that's where peace is. Peace is not the absence of chaos. Peace is finding peace in the chaos.

Oh, say that again. Peace is not the absence of chaos,

yes, yes. It's finding Hey at peace in the chaos, finding

peace in the chaos that is so good, that is so good. So it's not again, kind of going back to that whole like waiting for to wake up in the morning and Oh, today's the day my life is finally peaceful. That's let me know what happened, yeah, so not the absence of chaos, but it's finding peace within the chaos. And

you know what I say? I say to my clients, is that you know how a baby sleeps in the in the subway or at a fair or in a noisy situation? That's what we want to to be. Well, that's my goal is. Is to be be in the tornado, but to be grounded, you know, not to be spinning, not to be triggered, not to be like reactive. It's okay. There's going to be tornadoes. There are going to be storms. So. Can we stay grounded in who we are? Who we are is whole. Is complete. Our is love. When you look at that little baby that's born, they are the purest essence of love. And that's coming back to who we truly are

that is so so beautiful. And, you know, we've had a couple of family, you know, some things going on with, you know, just this past year, two different family members and hospital visits and things like that. And it came to me recently because of this. I thought, you know, being a woman, you know, we have so many people that that count on us, and we care for so many people and and it made me think, you know, knowing kind of the year we've had, it's made me think like I want to be, you know, we talked about on the street flourishes podcast, you know, showing up in the world the way you want to, and as the best version of you and and it, it dawned on me that I want to be when life throws these things my way. I do want to be that calm in the eye of the storm like I want to be. I don't want to be adding to it. So if there's a crisis, I'm not the person like the chicken with my head cut off like I actually want to be the woman, the mother, the, you know, daughter in law, sister, aunt, whoever I want to be, that person who is grounded and is the person that others can count on, and I'm there for myself too, like being that piece. And so thank you for that. Thank you for that. Because that is something that it it really has come to me this year that, like, we can't be adding, you know, even in our own families, and then talking about how we're talking about the world, but even in our own families, and we're, you know, I know, for me and my listeners, were at that age where life is, life is throwing maybe some bigger curveballs than normal, with, you know, health crises and different things like that, and really being able to be that person that others can count on, and that you're there for yourself too, right, that you're, You're able to cope in those difficult situations. So thank you for that. That's really, really helpful and a good reminder. So Linda, I could talk to you like, I feel like our time has just flown by here. And the last question I always ask my guests, and then we'll talk about how people can connect with you, but the last question I always ask is, what's one thing you most recommend that women can do to flourish in their lives,

be kind to themselves. I am an advocate for mindfulness, mindfulness, self compassion, just self compassion. I guide courses in it, and it's in my program, but people think being kind to themselves is like being selfish. And what self compassion does? It opens the door to greater empathy for others. And self compassion has three components. It's it's being mindful of what you're doing and saying to yourself, and it's loving kindness to yourself, you know, maybe taking a break, maybe going for a walk, maybe calling a friend, maybe doing something kind for yourself, and then knowing it's part of humanity. We're not alone. We're all going through this together. And so, you know, she flourishes is such a beautiful statement of rising, of elevating oneself. And I believe that through self compassion, we can honor the light and the shadow and know that the truth holds both ends and when we are self compassionate to our shadows, that creates empathy for others, and we become a greater source of groundedness, stability. Love, loving kindness, right? Everyone says love is kind of like woo, woo, but it is the ultimate. It is the ultimate to be embraced in a blanket of loving kindness from others.

So true. And thank you, Linda for being out in the world and shining your light and letting your voice be heard, because in this world, we need more people like you. So I'm so glad you listened. And. Started your podcast, and I'm so glad you said yes when I asked you to be on the show. So thank you for that, and for people that want to connect with you and hear more about your emotional freedom. Course, how can they connect with you?

Well, they can log on to my website, global wellness education. It's long, but it's true. I'm global. I'm all about education and wellness. So it's global wellness education.com. And the podcast is a call for love,

wonderful. So while you're listening, as soon as you're done listening to this, go on to a call for love podcast and follow Linda's podcast, because if you like she flourishes, you're going to like a call for love as well. I know you will. So so please, please do that. And thank you so much, Linda for being on the show. I look forward to listening to more episodes of your podcast. And thank you so much for all that you do in the world.

Thank you, Brenda. I just, I just feel like I have a new friend. So thank you.

I feel the same way.

Bye for now.