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We welcome Quincy Williams to our podcast. He helps companies save money by implementing & managing their wellness program. He's helped Columbus Metropolitan Housing Authority win "Healthiest Employer" in 2017 & 2018.
Quincy owns his own fitness consulting business, Quality Wellness Performance & Coaching, which specializes in personal training, group training & fitness coaching.
His approach is focusing on educating clients in ways that can support their goals and exercise adherence.
We talk about making that connection on how we think and how we stay healthy. Is being healthy a part of your identity?
Quincy dives into what calls the 4 pillars of health - emotional, physical, spiritual, and mental. A big part of staying on track for any of these pillars of health is understanding how we understand how our neural pathways can divert our healthy actions.
In each episode, Jeff and Eric will talk about what emotional intelligence, or understanding your emotions, can do for you in your daily and work life. For more information, contact Eric or Jeff at info@spiritofeq.com, or go to their website, Spirit of EQ.
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Hello, everyone. And welcome to the Spirit of EQ podcast.
Speaker:My name is Eric Pennington.
Speaker:And joining me today, as always, is Jeff East with Spirit of EQ.
Speaker:Hey, Jeff, how are you?
Speaker:I'm doing great, Eric, and I hope everyone else is too.
Speaker:So today we have an episode that I have
Speaker:been really excited about doing for a long time.
Speaker:And our guest today is Mr.
Speaker:Quincy Williams.
Speaker:We're so glad to have him in studio.
Speaker:Quincy, welcome. Thanks, Eric.
Speaker:Thanks for having me, guys.
Speaker:And as I mentioned to Quincy off air and you and the audience know this.
Speaker:I prefer our guests to tell the world
Speaker:themselves who they are, what they do, where they're from and do it in such quick
Speaker:fashion that we can get to this conversation.
Speaker:But, Quincy, why don't you tell the
Speaker:audience a little bit about yourself and we're excited.
Speaker:Hey, guys, it's Quincy Williams.
Speaker:I am from originally Cincinnati, Ohio.
Speaker:I'm in the health and wellness space.
Speaker:I do health and wellness for the Columbus
Speaker:Metropolitan Housing Authority and love what I do.
Speaker:I also have my own business, my own
Speaker:fitness business and consulting business, which keeps me pretty active.
Speaker:I have two kids, eight and nine, eight dominating Kendall, and I also do music.
Speaker:So I just basically live my life doing what's in my heart.
Speaker:And Quincy, that's great.
Speaker:And I would tell the audience as well.
Speaker:Quincy is being very modest and he's holding back a little bit.
Speaker:But hopefully, as we go along
Speaker:or I should say, we will Peel the onion back further.
Speaker:And one of the things as I mentioned about
Speaker:being so excited about doing this, Jeff, was that Quincy and I have met for lunch
Speaker:and coffee over probably last three, four years.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Pandemic through a little bit of a wrench in that series and that cadence.
Speaker:We've had some really great conversations.
Speaker:And that's one of the big reasons why I wanted you to come here today.
Speaker:I am very passionate about the four pillars.
Speaker:And you may remember in some of our conversations.
Speaker:And, Jeff, I think you have as well as that the four pillars of your spiritual
Speaker:health, your physical health, your mental health and your emotional health.
Speaker:Now all of them are vitally, vitally important to not only living a great life,
Speaker:but almost equally as important influencing others to live a great life.
Speaker:However, when you look at America as great
Speaker:a country as we live in there's, this great irony for the amount of wealth, the
Speaker:amount of access to information that quite frankly, right, Quincy.
Speaker:I mean, I can get on and do something in Google, and I can get the answer in what.
Speaker:5 seconds, 5 seconds easy.
Speaker:We're not in that greatest shape.
Speaker:And I know again, some of our
Speaker:conversations, the pandemic and its impact.
Speaker:And when you drill down into some of the
Speaker:statistics around things like Comorbidities and you go, Wait a minute.
Speaker:No, this can't be we've got the
Speaker:information, we've got the wealth, but it seems like we're moving backwards.
Speaker:So first thing I wanted to ask you, this can't be just because we woke up one day
Speaker:and decided I don't care about my physical health, something has to be going on.
Speaker:So
Speaker:what do you think is one of the connections? Maybe if you want to give
Speaker:another more than one, the connection between how we think and
Speaker:doing this thing called exercise and paying attention to our diet and all of
Speaker:that kind of thing. What's one thing that leaps out to you as a connection?
Speaker:It's a good question.
Speaker:I feel like it's almost a catch 22, because just like you said,
Speaker:we've been able to generate information within seconds, a matter of seconds.
Speaker:And so not only have we been able to generate information, but we've also been
Speaker:able to find solutions, like easy fix solutions.
Speaker:I feel. And a lot of that has been kind of what
Speaker:it's a great thing, but it's also kind of a detriment to what we have.
Speaker:You look at, we're the wealthiest country, but we're also the unhealthiest.
Speaker:And it's because of those things.
Speaker:We have access to so many resources that
Speaker:we kind of forget that our body still needs that movement, that action.
Speaker:You look at different celebrities,
Speaker:entertainers, they live a different life than what the average person lives.
Speaker:We're trying to keep up with that.
Speaker:Getting quick fixes, different things like that.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:I got to stop you there because you draw a great conclusion.
Speaker:So I see Mark Wahlberg, and I see that dude is in shape, man.
Speaker:Oh, man. I was thinking the rock, but.
Speaker:Are you saying, Quincy, that maybe we look at that and go, I want to be that.
Speaker:And it just happened to them overnight. Yeah.
Speaker:And we look at.
Speaker:Okay, what are they doing or what is the fastest way that we can get there?
Speaker:And a lot of times, it skips the discipline.
Speaker:It skips the work that you have to do in order to become that.
Speaker:And I also feel like
Speaker:we can talk about this a little bit more, but if it's not part of your identity,
Speaker:then you're not going to move towards it, you know what I mean.
Speaker:And so we look at how unhealthy we are as a society.
Speaker:A lot of it.
Speaker:Like we said, a lot of it is because of the access to information that we have.
Speaker:It's so easy to get from point A to point B, but it's not sustainable.
Speaker:I didn't catch it on initially, but if I can get an answer to my question
Speaker:in 5 seconds, is it my belief potentially, I'm thinking that I can just go to the gym
Speaker:tomorrow and then the next day, I look like Mark Wahlberg, right?
Speaker:Exactly. That's exactly what it is.
Speaker:I talked to a lot of clients, and they don't know.
Speaker:We don't know what we don't know.
Speaker:I hear I'm coming up on this vacation.
Speaker:I need to lose £20 in a month and it's not going to happen.
Speaker:How do you break that news to them?
Speaker:Not to go off on a tangent, but that idea that somehow.
Speaker:And I guess I should ask you, you have clients that actually.
Speaker:If you think about the concept of brushing your teeth, okay, right.
Speaker:If you haven't brushed your teeth in a year, let's hope that it hasn't happened.
Speaker:But if you haven't brushed your teeth in a
Speaker:year and then there's all things that all types of
Speaker:things that happen build up, Zack, just enamel deteriorate, all of it.
Speaker:But then all of a sudden something happens
Speaker:and you say, hey, I need whiter teeth in a month and you start brushing your teeth
Speaker:for a week, two weeks, and you don't see any progress.
Speaker:What typically happens, you give up, you quit.
Speaker:I can't do this.
Speaker:And so the perception is okay.
Speaker:Most society us as Americans, we see actors, entertainers, athletes.
Speaker:We see people go from point A to point B,
Speaker:they put the work in and then we look at that and it's like I'm going to do that.
Speaker:But we don't look at what it takes to do that.
Speaker:We don't look at the mindset that it takes to lose £20.
Speaker:Yeah. And so that's just one of those things
Speaker:when I have to break news to clients or potential clients.
Speaker:It's not sorry, it's not going to happen, but it's more of those things.
Speaker:Like, let's look at a more realistic term
Speaker:and let's look at how this thing really works.
Speaker:If we can start to break down the process of what really happens to lose weight,
Speaker:then people start to get more of an understanding of the process and how long
Speaker:it's going to take and just make more real or set more realistic expectations?
Speaker:I've got a question for you.
Speaker:Do you think that the ideal has been set too high?
Speaker:Like you mentioned Mark Wahlberg or The Rock.
Speaker:If you go back and look at athletes in the 60s or 70s, they were very fit, but they
Speaker:didn't have that so defined or whatever do you think?
Speaker:Because we've raised that Mark so high that it's discouraging to people?
Speaker:That's a great question, I think.
Speaker:Yes and no.
Speaker:We look at different figures, role models or whatever you want to call them.
Speaker:And I honestly think it's more of a perception.
Speaker:Do you admire what they're doing?
Speaker:Do you admire how they're doing things or do you want to be them?
Speaker:And I think that's a question that everyone has to ask.
Speaker:What are you striving for? Really?
Speaker:When we talk about setting the bar high, I
Speaker:think that it really comes down to your environment and your surrounding.
Speaker:We look at social media.
Speaker:We look at where we're spending our time, where we're managing our time.
Speaker:And a lot of that has to do with how you
Speaker:respond or how you're going to set the bar when it comes to your health.
Speaker:And I think that's another thing.
Speaker:We kind of misinterpret what health or
Speaker:what fitness or what that really looks like from an individual standpoint.
Speaker:It's not an all in one thing.
Speaker:Well, when you look at I'm just kind of going back to this
Speaker:because we're talking about a lot in many senses.
Speaker:Jeff, these neural pathways, right.
Speaker:These things that our brain develops, and
Speaker:it's their pathway of how we respond, how we react.
Speaker:We've mentioned this on the show many times, right.
Speaker:This idea that it really is our brain
Speaker:showing how marvelous it is and setting us into these efficient ways.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:But our brain is not our loving mother or father who
Speaker:says, oh, Eric, I don't think that's a good idea.
Speaker:You're going to end up regretting that in
Speaker:ten years, our brain is going to just take whatever.
Speaker:Josh Freeman from 6 Seconds has a video that it's priceless.
Speaker:And he's basically talking about giving a lesson about how the brain works.
Speaker:And he said something that it always
Speaker:stops me in my tracks when I think about it.
Speaker:He basically described it.
Speaker:I'm poorly paraphrasing.
Speaker:So, Josh, if you're listening, I'm sorry,
Speaker:though your brain can get really good at the things that really produce positive
Speaker:outcomes, it can get really good at the negative stuff, too.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And I would imagine in the audience, I
Speaker:know here in the studio, we can think of examples of people we know and even in our
Speaker:own history, where we go, I was really good at that really unhealthy thing.
Speaker:And I think it has to do with what we're telling ourselves, too.
Speaker:That plays a big role.
Speaker:Our own personal narrative, correct. Okay.
Speaker:What we're telling ourselves inside our head.
Speaker:Those things have a direct impact on
Speaker:those habits, because what we tell ourselves, then we start to believe it.
Speaker:And then once we start to believe it, it
Speaker:becomes our identity, which forms the habits.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:So would you say that person? I know we'll touch more on this as we go,
Speaker:who comes to you as a potential client, and maybe in the past they heard those
Speaker:voices or that narrative that you never are able to complete things,
Speaker:your failure, you're not as good as they come to you with that, right.
Speaker:Right. And when you encounter that, how do you
Speaker:handle that when you see that they're sort of
Speaker:maybe in some ways living on that old narrative that says, you can't.
Speaker:What I'm still learning and it's practice.
Speaker:But you can change your perception in a second, basically.
Speaker:And so we get wrapped up.
Speaker:And I think all of us have some form of self negative talk.
Speaker:And I feel when these things happen, it's
Speaker:being attended to ask a different question, ask them a different question.
Speaker:So when I can't do this or when they're in the gym or even if it's the initial
Speaker:consultation, a lot of times there's that fear, there's apprehension.
Speaker:But the real win is them making the first step.
Speaker:You've already made the first step and reaching out for help.
Speaker:And that's a huge thing.
Speaker:So by doing that, you've already had a
Speaker:win, and then I find myself doing this, I think a lot.
Speaker:Obviously.
Speaker:I want to come back to that, too, because we talked about this once before.
Speaker:But go ahead.
Speaker:So a lot of times when there is negative self chatter that goes on in my head, I
Speaker:have to step back and ask different questions.
Speaker:You're never good enough.
Speaker:Wait a minute.
Speaker:Look at where you are right now.
Speaker:This didn't happen by chance.
Speaker:This didn't happen by fate.
Speaker:And I'm willing to go on record that most people listening right now.
Speaker:They have those thoughts.
Speaker:But if you stop and just take a moment and realize and recognize where you are in
Speaker:that space, you can tend to come first deep breaths, right.
Speaker:And usually a lot of times when you can
Speaker:just reframe it and say, hey, I've done this.
Speaker:I don't want to use the term.
Speaker:I've got a roof over my head.
Speaker:But when you start to break things down into the simplest form and you start to
Speaker:realize your wins to get you where you are right then.
Speaker:And there a lot of that negative self talk kind of goes away.
Speaker:We talked about this affair, and
Speaker:I thought it was really powerful because I've heard it from other
Speaker:leaders, thinkers, right? Is that we need to be talking to ourselves more.
Speaker:Right? Absolutely.
Speaker:That we don't have enough conversations with ourselves enough.
Speaker:And when I think about that, I can't give credit for it.
Speaker:But it's this idea that when you are
Speaker:encountering this sort of storm of negative thought
Speaker:and maybe even positive thought, depending on what you're situation, is that you
Speaker:should stop and ask yourself, is this true?
Speaker:And then after you answer it, is it really true?
Speaker:Right. So think about in the positive.
Speaker:I'm the greatest speaker on the planet.
Speaker:Is that true? Yes.
Speaker:Of course it is.
Speaker:Is it really true?
Speaker:Maybe for you, right.
Speaker:Maybe I pay you.
Speaker:Well, Quincy, but here's the thing.
Speaker:But let's look at the negative again,
Speaker:which is the one that most people are prone to go to.
Speaker:Right? I'm not capable of getting in shape.
Speaker:Okay. Is that true?
Speaker:Well, yes. Because my dad or my mom or I tried.
Speaker:Okay. Is it really true, right?
Speaker:It's more of a label that you're already putting on yourself.
Speaker:And once you label it, that's your brain.
Speaker:Just like you said, your brain says, yeah, that's what we do.
Speaker:That's who you are.
Speaker:I want to put myself on the spot.
Speaker:Oh, I love vulnerability. Here you go.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Never mind. I'll do it, too.
Speaker:I need to lose weight.
Speaker:I know that.
Speaker:I started doing the intermittent fasting.
Speaker:Doctor approved it, loved it.
Speaker:And over the first six weeks, I lost about £20.
Speaker:Nice, and then I got totally away from it. Okay?
Speaker:I just restarted about a week ago, so I'm starting to make gains. What would you
Speaker:tell me if you were working with me to keep doing it?
Speaker:Everyone's going to have a lapse, right?
Speaker:You just don't want a lapse to turn into, like, relapse.
Speaker:Mine was a relapse.
Speaker:I relapse.
Speaker:I have those days or moments or weeks, even where I don't have it.
Speaker:I don't want to work out, but
Speaker:it's almost like we said, it works when you work number one, and it
Speaker:works even more when it becomes who you are.
Speaker:So that's not an overnight thing.
Speaker:It's not going to be an overnight thing.
Speaker:It's going to be something that's got to constantly be in the forefront.
Speaker:You think about. It kind of like work every day.
Speaker:You don't feel like you want to go to work.
Speaker:There are going to be days.
Speaker:There's going to be moments where you're not going to feel like coming to work.
Speaker:But you have to.
Speaker:You have those days where it's like, hey, I'm taking the day off.
Speaker:And if you can think about your fitness routine like that, it's a necessity.
Speaker:It has to be a part of who you are.
Speaker:But it doesn't have to be perfect.
Speaker:You know, I can't remember what I was
Speaker:reading, but it said
Speaker:lost days hurt more than just little.
Speaker:So basically, just don't put up a zero if they're going to be days where
Speaker:you have say, I assign six exercises and 30 minutes of cardio,
Speaker:and you look at me like I have three heads.
Speaker:I'm not doing that today.
Speaker:It's okay.
Speaker:It's totally okay.
Speaker:As long as you don't put up that zero, don't do nothing.
Speaker:Do something because that's something.
Speaker:If you look at it from a positive
Speaker:standpoint versus you can't look at it as I only did ten minutes of cardio,
Speaker:it needs to be reframed and reshaped as man, I didn't have it in me today.
Speaker:I almost didn't do anything, but I went ahead and did 15 minutes of cardio.
Speaker:I feel a little better.
Speaker:I move on with my day. Okay?
Speaker:So don't beat yourself up too much.
Speaker:It's going to happen.
Speaker:But just make sure that that one day doesn't spill over into habit, because
Speaker:then your brain says, yeah, we don't work out anymore.
Speaker:Because in some ways, Jeff, isn't that kind of ideal.
Speaker:The dualistic versus non dualist.
Speaker:If you take a non dualistic approach to
Speaker:it, then you can see, well, there is the option of I did something
Speaker:versus the dualistic that says you did it or you didn't do it, right.
Speaker:And we know it's much more vibrant than that, right?
Speaker:Yeah. That makes sense.
Speaker:Another thing around the brain, which
Speaker:I've encountered personally and my exercise
Speaker:approach, and that is the benefits of physical exercise for your brain.
Speaker:I know there's a lot of talk and a lot of research and things written
Speaker:about the importance of sleep and how it helps the brain.
Speaker:We talk about there's things about food and how it impacts the brain.
Speaker:My goodness.
Speaker:I even heard a podcast where they were talking about.
Speaker:Now they're researching your dental health and how it has a connection to
Speaker:dementia and Alzheimer's, because a number of people who don't take care of
Speaker:their teeth and like that example you gave earlier, somebody I just don't do it.
Speaker:That stuff is directly connected to and it just blew my mind.
Speaker:It all goes back to the brain, right? Yeah.
Speaker:So I know that physical exercise.
Speaker:I remember you talk about endorphins and things like that.
Speaker:What are some of the things you would say
Speaker:doing physical exercise does to help our brains as far as brain health?
Speaker:Well, one, the brain is able to adapt to any circumstance, right?
Speaker:It's that neuroplasticity.
Speaker:So the exercise study and research is
Speaker:showing right now that's what it improves in terms of reshaping your brain, making
Speaker:it stronger, making more positive changes that definitely helps.
Speaker:There's a mind muscle connection as well.
Speaker:So there are different.
Speaker:My training isn't traditional.
Speaker:It's more functional training, basically,
Speaker:if you want to call it, if you want to call it that, that's the buzzword for it.
Speaker:So a lot of times I'll have different.
Speaker:We'll say from an exercise standpoint,
Speaker:I'll have you do things where you have to stop and think about it.
Speaker:So just imagine you're in a plank.
Speaker:Let's say you're in a plank.
Speaker:But I want you to move that plank.
Speaker:A lot of people will take their if I'm going to have you move it to the left.
Speaker:Most people take their left arm and then their right and then move their legs.
Speaker:That's the easiest, the fastest way to get to that.
Speaker:But if I were to tell you, I want you to
Speaker:move this plank only using your left arm and your left leg
Speaker:at the same time, your body has to stop and think about that.
Speaker:Like, wait, what are you doing to me?
Speaker:So it kind of
Speaker:makes your brain have to work a little bit in terms of the mind muscle connection.
Speaker:It's also one of the basic things where if when
Speaker:we're talking about exercise and training, basically, when
Speaker:we're doing that, we're breaking down the muscles so that it can get stronger.
Speaker:Right. So it's built and destroyed, basically to
Speaker:build well, to build, you've got to destroy the build, basically.
Speaker:So it's the same thing with your brain.
Speaker:Your brain does the exact same thing when you take it through a workout.
Speaker:Have you ever felt worse after a workout?
Speaker:Oh, yeah.
Speaker:Well, from a mental standpoint, once you accomplish a workout, do you feel
Speaker:like most of the time you feel good about that workout?
Speaker:You'll feel bad is when I knew that I was not using proper
Speaker:form, but I pushed through it anyway, that's when I kind of get into that.
Speaker:You knew it. You should have blah, blah, blah.
Speaker:But to the point, that's another topic, too.
Speaker:But what you're saying is that you got to
Speaker:the end of it and you feel a sense of like I did it.
Speaker:Yes. Absolutely.
Speaker:Your brain kind of gives you those endorphins, but it's one of those things.
Speaker:That where it's reshaping also. Wow.
Speaker:I think that's when we talk, you hear about it all the time.
Speaker:Your brain is the most brilliant thing on the planet.
Speaker:Most brilliant organism on the planet. Yeah.
Speaker:Wow. So if I hear you right, Quincy,
Speaker:I can improve my brain health function when I exercise correct.
Speaker:You can improve your brain function through exercise.
Speaker:You can improve it through things like puzzling things like music.
Speaker:But the quickest way to improve that is through movement.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So there is a term.
Speaker:And this is where you professional
Speaker:certified gurus of exercise will know more than me.
Speaker:But the term muscle confusion.
Speaker:Does that have any play with the brain? Sure.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So I'll put some of the typical situation that happens, right.
Speaker:So I'll go in and I'll have clients who prior to training or even when they're
Speaker:working out with me, they'll get into a routine where it's pretty easy.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:So usually a lot of times we'll get into a routine and we'll stick to what we know.
Speaker:So when you think about that, it's like teaching your body the same math problem.
Speaker:It's not going to grow.
Speaker:So a lot of times that happens, I've done bicep curls.
Speaker:I'm going to use that as an example.
Speaker:I've done biceps curls.
Speaker:I've done lunges squats.
Speaker:I do those every day.
Speaker:I do 30 of them every day.
Speaker:And now I'm not getting any results.
Speaker:So that happens.
Speaker:Typically, that happens a lot.
Speaker:And again, you're teaching your body that same math problem.
Speaker:Hey, what's one plus one?
Speaker:Yeah, I know this. I know this.
Speaker:So I'm not going to do anything about that.
Speaker:But the term muscle confusion.
Speaker:You're taking that program and you're
Speaker:pretty much ditching it and giving your body something that it doesn't know.
Speaker:It's basically not one plus one.
Speaker:We're giving it algebra now.
Speaker:And so that's going to be the time where you start to feel.
Speaker:Within the next day or two, you start to
Speaker:feel the soreness, you'll feel a little uncomfortable while
Speaker:you're doing that exercise, your body is a little apprehensive.
Speaker:You're not sure of what you're doing.
Speaker:Those are the plank example that you gave. Correct.
Speaker:So we're normally doing normal planks, right.
Speaker:We know how to do that for the most part.
Speaker:But if we take that and we start moving it in different directions that our body is
Speaker:not used to, then our brain says, okay, what am I supposed to do with this?
Speaker:So a lot of the wear and tear that
Speaker:is necessary for your body to grow that is that muscle confusion.
Speaker:That's typically what's happening during that time.
Speaker:Okay. All right.
Speaker:Very nice.
Speaker:So when we think about when I go Zack to maybe the person who is
Speaker:and I use this example with you, we were getting Ray Race barbecue.
Speaker:Oh, my God. The alley there, which is a great brisket.
Speaker:It's just unbelievable.
Speaker:You're ever in the Franklinson area? Yeah.
Speaker:Franklin definitely checking that place out.
Speaker:Oh, my God. Oh, health food, right?
Speaker:Yeah. But you know what?
Speaker:This really kind of leads to it, right?
Speaker:I think sometimes people think Quincy that.
Speaker:Well, if I commit to getting in better
Speaker:shape or to start exercising, I have to be regimented.
Speaker:It needs to start at this time, and I must eat this.
Speaker:I can't eat that.
Speaker:And if I ever eat that, then the world comes to an end, right?
Speaker:It's not an all or nothing game, right? No.
Speaker:How much did Ray Ray's barbecue help? Your mental health?
Speaker:Oh, my God. I felt great afterwards, right?
Speaker:I always say there's not really a such thing as a bad food.
Speaker:It's all about what you're doing with it,
Speaker:what you're doing after it, why you're eating those different things.
Speaker:And if you can kind of separate or put into context what it is you're doing at
Speaker:that moment, then I don't think that you have anything too much.
Speaker:I love chocolate chip cookies.
Speaker:Love chocolate chip cookies.
Speaker:No, I overdo it.
Speaker:Heavy whipping cream.
Speaker:I am a professional cookie eater, but that's one of my weaknesses,
Speaker:and I know there are times and this kind of goes back to the relapse or lapse.
Speaker:There are times where
Speaker:I shouldn't be eating whatever Ray raise or cookie or pie or
Speaker:whatever the case may be, but I know in that moment.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:I got a decision to make after this is done because I am going to eat it.
Speaker:After I'm done with this,
Speaker:I can go about my day, which typically happens, or I can work it off.
Speaker:I'm not a person.
Speaker:I typically don't eat and then go work out
Speaker:because I feel like that's trained in my brain that food is bad.
Speaker:So that's just my personal opinion because of the relationship with your right?
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:If I'm going to eat something just and then go burn it off,
Speaker:I'm teaching my body like I have to go work out every time I eat, basically.
Speaker:So that's just how I see it.
Speaker:I don't want to train my body in that
Speaker:regard, but I will tell myself, okay, I've had X amount of cookies.
Speaker:I already worked out tomorrow.
Speaker:I'm going to have to double up a little
Speaker:bit or I'll double up for the next few days and especially if I have a goal.
Speaker:But if there's really no goal in mind and I'm just eating because I really like the
Speaker:cookie, then there's nothing to worry about.
Speaker:Again.
Speaker:Once health and fitness and exercise becomes a part of your identity, you're
Speaker:going to do the work to keep yourself healthy.
Speaker:Well, do you believe that most people get
Speaker:into trouble when it's these behaviors that
Speaker:are over a long period of time because to your point.
Speaker:And I know I've had my windows a time
Speaker:where I really love those fill in the blank.
Speaker:And I felt like anytime I go to the grocery store, I'm going to get those
Speaker:because I want those and I like those and on and on because I know that the research
Speaker:will show that the damage done is typically done over time, over time.
Speaker:Right? Correct.
Speaker:Yeah. And that's where you're right.
Speaker:People get into trouble with that.
Speaker:But also if we really think about it, it's all
Speaker:about our habits that we're really talking about.
Speaker:If it becomes a part of our identity as
Speaker:far as health and fitness, then incremental steps are going to be made.
Speaker:It's not going to be an overnight type of
Speaker:it's not going to be an overnight type of change.
Speaker:Do you find those people who are in that overnight change deal find it not
Speaker:sustainable, meaning they can't keep it going?
Speaker:Yes, I do.
Speaker:I've been proven wrong a lot of times, though.
Speaker:There are people who start off that it may
Speaker:be just a short term quick fix, but depending on what happens,
Speaker:right, something gets turned on, and then they start to shape in their beliefs
Speaker:and their values around health and fitness.
Speaker:And once you do that, then the magic starts to happen.
Speaker:Whether you're an early riser and you work
Speaker:out in the morning, you'll just wake up and start to do it.
Speaker:You feel like your day is not complete if
Speaker:you don't do something because we think about emotions, right.
Speaker:And I'm going to go back in time.
Speaker:Many of our audience members Quincy know that I used to be a corporate guy,
Speaker:and in the height of that, at my pinnacle, I remember going to visit my doctor, my
Speaker:primary care, and it was like a normal annual physical deal.
Speaker:And he's just a wonderful guy and got to the subject of exercise.
Speaker:And at that time, I wasn't doing anything.
Speaker:I actually believed that because I was so
Speaker:successful in my corporate life that it covered over all of the myths
Speaker:and the lack of you talk about how your brain can work in my brain.
Speaker:I thought, Well, you're a super successful dude.
Speaker:Just because you don't exercise doesn't mean anything.
Speaker:You're fine. Yeah.
Speaker:You'll be okay.
Speaker:I remember him looking me in the eye, and he has this way about him.
Speaker:He's still my family physician.
Speaker:He says, Eric, you need to be doing some type of exercise every day.
Speaker:I remember looking at him going, there's no way.
Speaker:There's no way, Doc.
Speaker:And I remember things in my head so dismissive of that idea,
Speaker:and I look back over it and I can go, what was I feeling that
Speaker:I was feeling this immense amount of pressure, anxiety in some levels around?
Speaker:Well, I can't turn down my volume in the career.
Speaker:Because if I do that, I could lose.
Speaker:And if I lose, then they'll know, you know where it goes.
Speaker:Right. So for me, it was a vital thing to go.
Speaker:That might be the approach for some people, Doc, not me.
Speaker:Yeah, right.
Speaker:And it had nothing to do with the fact that you couldn't exercise.
Speaker:That's a great point, because you're totally on.
Speaker:I had been the guy who start six months,
Speaker:quit for three, began again, stop for longer periods, began again.
Speaker:I was just totally inconsistent.
Speaker:So to your point, yes, I could have done it.
Speaker:I could have done something right.
Speaker:And that's the thing with society.
Speaker:We can do anything, anything.
Speaker:We just have to figure out what it is.
Speaker:And that takes some time. It takes some time.
Speaker:It takes some reflection.
Speaker:It takes all of it.
Speaker:But once you get down to the root of what
Speaker:is really bothering you, what are you really afraid of?
Speaker:Yes. Because in the work that we do at Spirit
Speaker:of EQ, this idea about emotional literacy, what is that fear?
Speaker:What is it saying to you?
Speaker:What is the message there?
Speaker:Because my fear was
Speaker:if I don't keep up this intense pace, I could end up getting replaced.
Speaker:I could end up losing.
Speaker:And at that time, I had no clue about any of this.
Speaker:For me, it was like, do you know what my name is?
Speaker:Do you know where I work?
Speaker:Do you know what my position, my title, all that. But as I look, Zack and I go, if
Speaker:I could have whispered into the ear of that, Eric, I would have said, Why don't
Speaker:you pay attention to what you're afraid of?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:What's at the root of that?
Speaker:And I get it.
Speaker:There are probably a number of people in the audience.
Speaker:I don't want to go there. I don't want to address the fear.
Speaker:I don't want to address this because it has bad memories.
Speaker:It takes me not only to ten years ago.
Speaker:It takes me back to my childhood.
Speaker:And then I got unpacking is a lot right. It is.
Speaker:And I certainly hope that I'm not
Speaker:diminishing the weight of going on that journey to look at.
Speaker:Well, where does it all begin?
Speaker:Where does that come from?
Speaker:However
Speaker:fast forward, my approach and thoughts about exercise are totally different.
Speaker:Now.
Speaker:I know in shows like our Squincy Jeff, we've talked about it.
Speaker:We do dispense a lot of advice.
Speaker:But if there's one thing that I have found
Speaker:in my life that typically gets me to go, Whoa, wake up.
Speaker:This is real.
Speaker:It's when I've been knocked down.
Speaker:And when my corporate career came to an end, phone stopped ringing.
Speaker:Nobody was patting me on the back.
Speaker:No one was saying, you're the one to watch.
Speaker:I decided to go out.
Speaker:I can run.
Speaker:And I was a cocky.
Speaker:You know what? I can do this.
Speaker:This is not a big deal.
Speaker:And Quincy, I maybe ran for maybe a
Speaker:quarter of a mile, and I felt like I was going to have a heart attack.
Speaker:And it was as if I still remember the Street I was on.
Speaker:I remember what I was wearing, and I remember where I stopped.
Speaker:I can see it as clear as day.
Speaker:And it was as if I realized, this is your time now.
Speaker:Yeah. You're going to need to make a choice.
Speaker:That's been my motive.
Speaker:I know everybody has their own way of getting to the place where they go.
Speaker:I get it now. Yeah.
Speaker:And I appreciate you sharing that story.
Speaker:I feel like.
Speaker:And that's the thing we had talked about
Speaker:earlier, where a lot of inspiration comes from and a lot of most society, their
Speaker:information, their inspiration is external.
Speaker:So there's, like, what we call it the external locus of control.
Speaker:So what happened with you?
Speaker:It sounds like you said you had a moment where and you had to make a choice.
Speaker:And I think that's where
Speaker:a lot of people will define their success is when they decide for themselves, not
Speaker:for anyone else, that this is what I need to do.
Speaker:And your body is going to it talks to you.
Speaker:That's why you have to talk to yourself.
Speaker:Because your body talks to you.
Speaker:It will tell you if something is in pain.
Speaker:Hey, we're not doing something. I need help.
Speaker:I need attention alert, basically.
Speaker:And it's better to talk to your body before it starts talking to you, right?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:When I first started my journey, it was funny because I can't remember.
Speaker:I was early 20s.
Speaker:So September 10, 2001 is a Monday.
Speaker:I was working for General Motors, and I had a lot of my coworkers.
Speaker:They were working out.
Speaker:I had just got really started getting into fitness, health, all of it.
Speaker:So working at General Motors, I was on the line passing time, screwing, shooting,
Speaker:screws and everything and just reading a lot.
Speaker:And I got into health.
Speaker:I got into fitness.
Speaker:I started studying it.
Speaker:And I remember going to the gym.
Speaker:September 10, 2001.
Speaker:No, I didn't go to the gym. I got sick.
Speaker:I got sick on that Sunday.
Speaker:I had, like, food, poison or something.
Speaker:So I didn't go that day.
Speaker:But I went Tuesday.
Speaker:Tuesday was September 11, nine 11th.
Speaker:And I was in Dayton, Ohio, at the time.
Speaker:And there's, right, Pat there military.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Everything shut down that day except for General Motors.
Speaker:Like, we were running like, You're not going anywhere.
Speaker:You're going to run these trucks?
Speaker:No, it was weird.
Speaker:But there was also another gym that was still open.
Speaker:Everything had just happened, so no one knew what to do.
Speaker:And I still went.
Speaker:So it's Tuesday, 911.
Speaker:I went to the gym and that was 2001, and I've been going the whole time.
Speaker:But I noticed through that my perspective changed a little bit.
Speaker:So there were times where I would go to the gym and I would have so much external
Speaker:motivation from things like other guys telling you, oh, you look great.
Speaker:You look good from females, like all the external all confirmation.
Speaker:Yes, it was all out there.
Speaker:And so that kind of grabbed my attention for a while.
Speaker:I remember when I had my son in 2011.
Speaker:It was a rough time.
Speaker:I was unemployed
Speaker:briefly, for about I think it was about two months, but it felt like two years.
Speaker:So there was a lot going on in that moment, but I remember looking at
Speaker:a picture of myself and not knowing who that guy was.
Speaker:I gained about it was close to £20.
Speaker:It may not be much, but I felt the
Speaker:okay, it's time to do something about it.
Speaker:And so that was the moment where I made a deal with myself and
Speaker:not to lose the weight, but just to get healthy, to get healthy.
Speaker:So if we can, I think a lot of people's goals they get
Speaker:defined by I want to tone up or I need to just lose £10.
Speaker:I don't know where that comes from, but common.
Speaker:It's very common.
Speaker:And I think my job as a coach is not just
Speaker:to help you meet that goal, but really define, well, why do you want to lose £10?
Speaker:Why do you feel like if you were just to lose £10, everything would be better.
Speaker:But what's the meaning behind that?
Speaker:£10.
Speaker:So, Quincy, we talk about some of those
Speaker:motivations and the catalyst to like, hey, it's time to change.
Speaker:Can you talk a little bit about what are
Speaker:some of the emotions that you've seen in the time with your clients?
Speaker:What do they come to that?
Speaker:Especially at the beginning.
Speaker:What do they come to the table with that you've observed and heard.
Speaker:It'S all types of things.
Speaker:But the main one is to impress somebody.
Speaker:And I feel like a lot of us.
Speaker:That's what it kind of comes down to sometimes.
Speaker:So for me, as we said, my motive was okay.
Speaker:I want to be able to impress this person.
Speaker:I want to be able to lift this much weight.
Speaker:I want this person to recognize me, and I feel a lot of times
Speaker:those are the motivations that bring people to I'm cutting you off.
Speaker:But does that kind of connect to I want to impress this person because I'm afraid
Speaker:they won't like me or love me if I don't look a certain way.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And it's as simple as that fear of what other people think of me.
Speaker:Oh, wow.
Speaker:It's a big thing.
Speaker:And it could start off as something where you make a statement where
Speaker:I want to look good in this suit or I want to look good in this dress.
Speaker:Yeah. Well, what does that mean, right?
Speaker:Because nobody says, well, the reason why I want to look good in this suit is
Speaker:because nobody will love me unless I look very handsome and put together, right?
Speaker:No one's going to say that, but what is it behind them, right.
Speaker:Okay. Yeah.
Speaker:There's a little bit of that, and
Speaker:I feel like addressing whatever the motive is is the main thing.
Speaker:But a lot of times people just want to look better.
Speaker:People want to look good naked.
Speaker:That's another thing.
Speaker:When it all comes down to it, we all have these vague.
Speaker:I want to say these vague fitness goals, and there's nothing wrong with them.
Speaker:There's absolutely nothing wrong with them.
Speaker:I think at the end of the day, it's
Speaker:important to know or it's important to establish what's the goal long term.
Speaker:Are you saying that because getting in shape for the opinion of others
Speaker:can only sustain you for so long? Am I close there?
Speaker:Correct. So if you're doing it for the sake of
Speaker:appearance, for others, then it's not part of your identity, right?
Speaker:Going back to what you said about right.
Speaker:So it all goes back to that.
Speaker:And if it's not part of your identity, then it's not going to be sustainable.
Speaker:Now it doesn't have to be.
Speaker:All I want to do is lift weights or all I want to do is work out or be healthy.
Speaker:But there's a frame that you can put it in
Speaker:instead of saying I need to lose £20 or whatever the case
Speaker:may be because I feel like that's a negative connotation.
Speaker:Also, you can reframe it as I'm a healthy person or I'm a fit person.
Speaker:If you can start to say that to yourself,
Speaker:then you start to take action on that, right?
Speaker:That becomes
Speaker:part of who you are, part of what you're doing, part of your everyday life.
Speaker:And so I feel like if you can establish that if things become who you are, then
Speaker:you'll more than likely have success with them.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I constantly talk about, you know, it has to be a part of who you are, right?
Speaker:Yeah. So we think about what you're doing.
Speaker:You left
Speaker:the corporate world and now you're doing this is part of who you are, right.
Speaker:And you wouldn't have it any other way.
Speaker:This is what you want to do.
Speaker:You'll wake up and build you'll wake up and figure out how do
Speaker:I connect with people in regards to their emotional intelligence?
Speaker:How do I make an impact on that?
Speaker:And so I think it's foundation on dates, fundamentals.
Speaker:That's the same thing, though, work, entrepreneurship, business and all that.
Speaker:It's multi layered and its motivations.
Speaker:But it's like even with me and my
Speaker:exercise, because as I said to you and I mentioned this to our producer,
Speaker:Brett, about my years in the desert, right over the last close to 20 years.
Speaker:I haven't missed a beat as it relates to my exercise.
Speaker:But to your point, it is a part of who I am now.
Speaker:It is no longer a well, if I get to it, I get to it.
Speaker:It's no longer.
Speaker:Well, I don't need to push myself.
Speaker:No, it is really one of those things where it is now a part of me.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And I get it two years from now, five years from now.
Speaker:I may not be able to run, but I can do something.
Speaker:You can do something. Yeah.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:I may not be able to have the same pace, but I might be able to jog.
Speaker:And if I can't jog, I can walk. Right.
Speaker:Because that was the early on thing, and it's the way I'm wired.
Speaker:I got in this.
Speaker:You would have thought I was training for
Speaker:the Olympics, and I had a wise mentor coach who said,
Speaker:Take a step back and look over the horizon here.
Speaker:You want to have a diversity of different
Speaker:things that you can do with your exercise, correct.
Speaker:Because the reality is there might be a
Speaker:day where your body is going to say, we can't do that anymore.
Speaker:And if that's the only thing you had, you're going to be bummed.
Speaker:You're potentially going to be a little depressed and you might decide.
Speaker:So I'll give you an example, because that happens so often, right.
Speaker:I've gone through so many different ways with fitness.
Speaker:Yes. I was being modest.
Speaker:So I used to do fitness competitions, right.
Speaker:And I was a physique competitor.
Speaker:So I had a coach and I started training for fitness
Speaker:competitions and started winning, like, great.
Speaker:This is awesome.
Speaker:What that did was
Speaker:I stopped competing after a while, but what it did was after I won.
Speaker:I started to identify myself with that person.
Speaker:I'm Quincy.
Speaker:I win fitness competition.
Speaker:I have to have muscle all the time.
Speaker:I have to work out this certain way.
Speaker:Basically, people saw me as that.
Speaker:So I had to live as that.
Speaker:And so it changed all of my workout.
Speaker:It even changed a little bit of my training.
Speaker:But it also helped me arrive to this where I'm at right now because I saw so many
Speaker:people saying, I want to do what you're doing.
Speaker:I want to look like you can you it's like,
Speaker:Wait, what what do you really want to do, though?
Speaker:And do you know what this takes?
Speaker:So I started having to Peel back layers for other people.
Speaker:And it helped me understand where people's mindset, where they arrive in their
Speaker:mindset on some things when it comes to health and fitness.
Speaker:And so
Speaker:I ended up quitting competing and started focusing on more specific training, more
Speaker:health and fitness, a lot more for emotional health, too.
Speaker:I think what tends to happen with people
Speaker:is just kind of how you were saying, I want to run.
Speaker:I want to run. There may not be a day where you can run.
Speaker:So even though health and fitness and
Speaker:wellness is important, you can't get and you need it to be a part of your identity.
Speaker:You can't get too attached to it because
Speaker:things are going to change, and it's going to command you to.
Speaker:How do I say this?
Speaker:It's all going to come back to you have to
Speaker:reflect it's all going to come back to where you have to do some real self
Speaker:reflection in regards to what you want your health to look like.
Speaker:Because that comes back.
Speaker:And we've talked about it before in prior shows, this sort of
Speaker:defining about who you are and what's important to you.
Speaker:And I almost kind of go, man, what kind of
Speaker:age are we living in where that has to be, like, explicit in conversation.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:You would go, of course, you need to know who you are and what's important to you.
Speaker:But society doesn't tell us that.
Speaker:No, it doesn't.
Speaker:We were doing a presentation to a group, and a lot of our work is certainly overt,
Speaker:and it's specific to competencies and why it happens and how all that.
Speaker:But there's also Jeff, you know this we get a sense about things.
Speaker:We get a feel of the room.
Speaker:We listen closer to those conversations.
Speaker:And in this one particular one happened some time ago.
Speaker:It's like it was clear to me there was this I mentioned muscle confusion.
Speaker:It's like, who am I?
Speaker:Confusion? Yeah.
Speaker:Because you can tell some of it was derived from social media.
Speaker:Well, the reason why I'm doing these
Speaker:things is because all of my friends are doing these things.
Speaker:And if I want to appear like I am, then I must.
Speaker:You have to. Okay.
Speaker:And you fill in the blank. Right.
Speaker:And I'm thinking, oh, my gosh, no, this needs to be explicit.
Speaker:We need to say it more.
Speaker:Have you defined who you are?
Speaker:Have you define what's important to you?
Speaker:Don't think about who you see on social media.
Speaker:Don't think about your coworkers.
Speaker:Don't think about your careers, all these
Speaker:narratives and all these dogmas that come at you.
Speaker:You got to clear that out, because
Speaker:otherwise, I think we end up making these mistakes go.
Speaker:Well, of course I'm going to go hire Quincy, because Robert, Bill and John Man,
Speaker:you see how much muscle they put on themselves.
Speaker:I got to help you now.
Speaker:I love how you connect this idea around emotion, mental with the physical, right.
Speaker:Because how many trainers just go. Okay.
Speaker:All right. You want to get like, John, let's go.
Speaker:Right. See you in the gym tomorrow.
Speaker:And then here's the program.
Speaker:But those trainers, right.
Speaker:I'm not trying to condemn them or they're collecting a fee, right?
Speaker:It's a transaction. And one of the things I've loved about
Speaker:you, Quincy, is that there's a heart behind the work.
Speaker:And yes, I know there's work.
Speaker:And yes, you could get as cut as whoever.
Speaker:But if you get cut like him because you're just chasing, who are you?
Speaker:Are you going to be happy?
Speaker:Is that really the thing that you want. Yeah.
Speaker:I think there's this thing with training.
Speaker:I don't really write programs anymore, primarily because anything can happen.
Speaker:Anything can happen.
Speaker:I can have the perfect program for you for the whole week.
Speaker:But
Speaker:something happens where you're sleeping wrong and you can't move your neck.
Speaker:I can't say, oh, you got to do it.
Speaker:You still got to do it.
Speaker:That makes no sense.
Speaker:So it's all about how is your body feeling at that moment?
Speaker:I'm not suggesting that you shouldn't
Speaker:write programs or anything like that, right.
Speaker:But I feel like, for me 20 years, something like that.
Speaker:So you build up a knowledge bank.
Speaker:But there's also some things that change
Speaker:on a daily basis, so I can't expect you to do X that I wrote out yesterday.
Speaker:You're adding flexibility to how you train, right?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:There's a lot behind that.
Speaker:But there's also the people who
Speaker:have to have it match your identity.
Speaker:And I don't want to sound like that has to
Speaker:be the first thing that happens before you can have success.
Speaker:There are things where you could be in a situation where your
Speaker:body had talked to you and something happened.
Speaker:You have to go to the doctor just like you had mentioned.
Speaker:And the doctor says, hey, it's time for
Speaker:you to make some changes, and you may not know how to go there or how to get there.
Speaker:You hire a coach.
Speaker:Hey, Doc says I have to lose weight.
Speaker:I've never worked out in my life.
Speaker:I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker:I hate exercise.
Speaker:I hate exercise.
Speaker:That's a big statement.
Speaker:But there are a lot of people who are in this place.
Speaker:I hate exercise, but I have to do it.
Speaker:I hate exercise, but I want to live.
Speaker:I got it.
Speaker:Hopefully the mindset is it'll become a part of their identity soon.
Speaker:But let's get them feeling better first. Yeah.
Speaker:So it's one of those things where you have to be patient with it.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:So, Quincy, for those out there in our audience, that go.
Speaker:Okay. I get it.
Speaker:Quincy, it's important.
Speaker:Yeah, you've convinced me, but I'm maybe that person who I hate exercise.
Speaker:Or you know what?
Speaker:I don't even think I could run a mile or a quarter of a mile or whatever.
Speaker:What would you say?
Speaker:Or maybe one, two things that they could start.
Speaker:And I'm not going to try to put you on the spot to say it has to be X or Y.
Speaker:But because this person could be living in
Speaker:California, and we may never see them type thing, what would be something you could
Speaker:say that you would encourage them to get started on that path of an exercise
Speaker:program, getting back into that or getting into it for the first time.
Speaker:Getting into it for the first time.
Speaker:If you're the type who hates exercise, then we need to take that away.
Speaker:Don't exercise.
Speaker:Do something that's fun.
Speaker:Do something that's active do something that you may not consider exercise.
Speaker:So if you hate cardio, but you love dancing, then I would try to find
Speaker:a place where you can go dance a little bit, maybe two, three times a week.
Speaker:There's different types of videos where you can go do that.
Speaker:There's activities, sports activities.
Speaker:You can do any of those things.
Speaker:But it's all about how you shape it.
Speaker:You don't have to work out.
Speaker:You just have to get moving.
Speaker:And if you can get moving to where you're breaking some sort of sweat and you're
Speaker:doing it on something that you enjoy, especially if you don't like exercise,
Speaker:then that's going to lead into it's just going to lead to the next step where
Speaker:you'll see those results and you'll be proud of those results.
Speaker:And it's hey, I need what's the literal effect?
Speaker:I think it's called where one thing
Speaker:happens, you change one thing, and now you see it's a great change.
Speaker:And now you have to start changing other things around you.
Speaker:And so that's typically what happens.
Speaker:You just need a little bit of momentum in that regard.
Speaker:Once you get the momentum, you can see your mindset take care.
Speaker:It does the rest.
Speaker:It takes care of everything else.
Speaker:Or you can give me a call.
Speaker:We are going to give you Quincy's information, by the way, so that if you
Speaker:want to talk to him about anything that you heard on the show or anything that he
Speaker:might be able to help you with further, we'll definitely do that.
Speaker:But, Jeff, go ahead. All right.
Speaker:So I think this is the longest that Eric
Speaker:and I have done a podcast where music didn't come up.
Speaker:That just happens.
Speaker:We both are bass players and have a love of all different kinds of music.
Speaker:I did not know that I'm sitting here with my head down looking
Speaker:down on my notes, and I'm going, I have not told no, you haven't.
Speaker:There's a secret.
Speaker:And Eric and I both have a lot of
Speaker:admiration and respect for the late Neil Pirate, the drummer from Rush, who argued.
Speaker:I'll argue anybody that if he's not in the top two or three, you're wrong.
Speaker:Convince me.
Speaker:But that's what he was.
Speaker:But that's not who he was because he had so many other things.
Speaker:He was an author, and he did not identify
Speaker:just with being one of the greatest rock drummers and a really good band.
Speaker:What I see happen to people is
Speaker:when they have that identity you were talking about.
Speaker:This is who I want people to think I am.
Speaker:Or however, you want to say that when that is taken away from them,
Speaker:I'm of the age now where serious retirement is something to think about.
Speaker:And I see people 65, 66 before 70.
Speaker:They retire from what they've done all
Speaker:their life, and they just waste away because they identified with just that.
Speaker:And they don't replace it with something
Speaker:how important is you like, I know you do some stuff with music.
Speaker:How important it is to find something like that to continue what you're doing.
Speaker:Man, I think that is one of the most critical pieces.
Speaker:So there's a lot to unpack there.
Speaker:There's a lot.
Speaker:First, there's a Netflix series.
Speaker:I don't know if you've seen it, and it talks about the it's a recent one.
Speaker:It talks about the best drummers. Okay.
Speaker:And everyone was saying that he's one of the best top three for sure.
Speaker:You have to look that up.
Speaker:But I just want to hate you for that, because if I find it.
Speaker:That'S all it's going to be.
Speaker:You got to do another podcast just with that.
Speaker:I think it's important because obviously, you guys know I love music.
Speaker:It's like breathing.
Speaker:And I think it is important because just as much as I love what I do in the
Speaker:health and fitness space, I equally love what I do in the music space, too.
Speaker:And it's an outlet.
Speaker:I try not to attach myself too much to it because I do use it as an outlet.
Speaker:So when things with fitness can be a little stressful, I go straight to music.
Speaker:It's always playing.
Speaker:Always.
Speaker:My partner will tell you, I'm kind of obsessed with it.
Speaker:If it's not playing in any house, what is going on here?
Speaker:Why are we not having music going?
Speaker:Yes, but it doesn't have to be music.
Speaker:But I do feel like it is important to have
Speaker:something else that you can go to in order to have an outlet.
Speaker:If you cling on to one idea or one belief for too long, nothing is permanent.
Speaker:Everything changes. Everything evolves.
Speaker:So I feel if you can have something that
Speaker:you can go to, but not only just that, but being able to learn a new skill.
Speaker:We talk about the newer plasticity of the
Speaker:brain and being able to connect those things.
Speaker:Those are all great resources to have that.
Speaker:But I've seen people and I've been talking
Speaker:about we talked about General Motors, people who do the thing that they do 30,
Speaker:40, 50 years, and then retirement is done, then there's nothing going on.
Speaker:I'd be willing to bet that there are so many different things that anybody who
Speaker:is close to retirement or maybe thinks that.
Speaker:Okay. I'm an artist.
Speaker:That's what I do.
Speaker:Well, you may be an artist, but have you explored this or have you explored that
Speaker:there's so many different things and that's how you grow.
Speaker:Basically, if you can let go of the attachment to who you think you are, your
Speaker:perception is then that's where the growth starts.
Speaker:It's almost a fair warning for everybody out there.
Speaker:Your culture that we live in, at least in
Speaker:the United States, is one that really tries to box people in.
Speaker:It tries to define you and tell you that you must do this in order to do this.
Speaker:And you must think like this.
Speaker:Jeff mentions about retirement, and this
Speaker:has gotten me in trouble in certain sectors of my family.
Speaker:Where I go.
Speaker:Retirement is a myth.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And quite frankly, it was probably created
Speaker:by Wall Street, and you have enough marketing behind it.
Speaker:You have enough messaging behind it that
Speaker:people will live their entire lives to get to this place.
Speaker:That Wall Street has said you will find
Speaker:this pot of gold, and then you can retire to Florida and play golf all the time.
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:That's a myth. It's a myth.
Speaker:I mean, don't get me wrong. I mean, I get it.
Speaker:I know some people have lived out that
Speaker:story, but to say that that is representative,
Speaker:especially in a world that has been turned upside down as it has.
Speaker:Why would you want to even pursue that? Right.
Speaker:And I feel like that isn't.
Speaker:Well, I don't know.
Speaker:We're all different.
Speaker:Some people are looking for that.
Speaker:But me personally,
Speaker:when I think of retirement, I don't think of retirement as stopping.
Speaker:I think of it as the next step. Okay.
Speaker:What's the next venture?
Speaker:It's freedom. It is.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:The real gym is being able to figure that out.
Speaker:Now, what you're doing?
Speaker:You're knocking on your door, correct.
Speaker:I'm very blessed and fortunate to be in a space where
Speaker:I'm 42 years old, but I don't see I don't even fathom retirement right now.
Speaker:To what you're saying there Quincy and Jeff, you may have alluded to it as well.
Speaker:The idea is we come back to like you as a
Speaker:trainer, this exercise thing for the life of me, it would seem to me like you'd want
Speaker:to be in the best shape of your life as you enter into retirement.
Speaker:So that what you do after that is sustained on whether that's you retire and
Speaker:you become a volunteer for the Salvation Army or for make a Wish Foundation, or if
Speaker:it's the next venture or whatever it may be.
Speaker:And I've got family members where I go, you are killing yourself.
Speaker:Now, what kind of shape are you going to be in
Speaker:when it's, quote, untied to have freedom and it's like it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker:I guess that's one way for me to plug this is why we should all be exercising.
Speaker:And you're absolutely right.
Speaker:And just what we talked about
Speaker:today when we talk about it being a part of your identity.
Speaker:If you can put that in there or work to
Speaker:build, that is the better term work to build that as part of your identity,
Speaker:then everything else in your life will start to shape.
Speaker:You're living your purpose, basically. Yeah.
Speaker:You know what, Quincy?
Speaker:It reminds me of you never seen those
Speaker:visuals where you touch a color and then the color just spreading.
Speaker:Right? You know what?
Speaker:I come to my mind when you said I cut you off.
Speaker:I'm sorry. No, but that's right.
Speaker:I mean, you're living your purpose and when those things they're all connected.
Speaker:Right. So I would encourage everyone
Speaker:if exercise isn't in your I like to say big three, but you can say top five.
Speaker:If it's not in your top five, find
Speaker:different ways or even look at your top five right now and figure out some things.
Speaker:Well, maybe I spend too much time here.
Speaker:Maybe I can plug
Speaker:20 minutes a day for exercise, 20 minutes, maybe too much in the morning.
Speaker:I can give it ten minutes in the morning
Speaker:and maybe ten minutes around 01:00 or whatever the case may be.
Speaker:So once you can start doing those things.
Speaker:So once retirement comes,
Speaker:as we said, it's the next steps, your body is ready for it.
Speaker:For the next step, you only get one, you only get one.
Speaker:Yeah. All right.
Speaker:So this is a two parter.
Speaker:I like you to tell the audience what is
Speaker:something you're working on currently that you'd want them to know about?
Speaker:And then if we do have an audience member that maybe wants to reach out to you
Speaker:directly, obviously, we'll put your information in the show notes.
Speaker:But why don't you tell us about what are you working on right now?
Speaker:That got you really excited that you want the audience to know about?
Speaker:Well, there's a lot of work, but I'm trying to tie everything together.
Speaker:So right now I have a YouTube channel that is basically an exercise library.
Speaker:So if anyone who is looking to get in shape, you can head to my YouTube channel.
Speaker:It's Quincy Williams.
Speaker:And basically what you'll find are basic
Speaker:exercises stemming from body weight exercises.
Speaker:Dumbbells TRX suspension trainer, which we
Speaker:didn't get into that point because we've got some yeah, there's a lot with that.
Speaker:But the YouTube channel basically consists of that.
Speaker:If you're looking for different exercises that you can do proper ways to modify and
Speaker:progress the exercises, they'll be right there.
Speaker:And it will be linked to my website, which is qfitnesstraining.
Speaker:Com and also linked to my website is
Speaker:TRX, where you can find me and have any type of TRX training that you want.
Speaker:You can go straight to their website.
Speaker:I'm one of the feature trainers there, and you can book sessions there.
Speaker:You can also find me on.
Speaker:Ig at Qfitness training.
Speaker:But, Quincy, what about that six week challenge thing that we've talked about?
Speaker:Oh, yes, the six week Challenge.
Speaker:So the six week challenge, basically, it's kind of what we were talking about today.
Speaker:It's a challenge in regards to your
Speaker:mindset and how you can relate your mindset to your body.
Speaker:So the challenge, basically is you come up with your own goal, and I'll help you
Speaker:decipher that goal to make it more realistic, make it more attainable
Speaker:just to make sure that it's something that you can do within the next six weeks.
Speaker:So the goal is not only to hit your goal,
Speaker:but to springboard you into a more healthy lifestyle and more emotional awareness to
Speaker:where you are in terms of your health and fitness.
Speaker:And I will tell you, audience, I have gained a lot from Quincy,
Speaker:certainly, personally, and that probably is coming out.
Speaker:But just in his advice for me, as it relates to my health.
Speaker:And we were talking about this last week.
Speaker:If you remember, is that I was rehashing the conversation we had about hamstrings.
Speaker:Yes. And you kind of gave me.
Speaker:Well, what you might want to try is this
Speaker:and that could be the reason you're having issues with your low back.
Speaker:So I go and I start doing that and call it serendipity.
Speaker:I hear this other trainer who I respect a
Speaker:lot, says, Well, if you're having issues with your low back, it could be your
Speaker:hamstring and basically repeated back to me the exact same advice you gave me.
Speaker:So I'm just telling everyone I'm a living breathing testimonial.
Speaker:Quincy, I can't thank you enough for coming on, man.
Speaker:We've just thoroughly thoroughly enjoyed it.
Speaker:And always a pleasure talking to you guys. Yeah.
Speaker:And considering the time frame, as I have said before, we will have you back again
Speaker:for a part two, because there are some other things I do want to get into.
Speaker:But as things go, and as we know, there's only so much time.
Speaker:So with that again, thanks for joining us, audience, thank you for tuning in.
Speaker:And we look forward to seeing you and being with you the next time.
