Will Rose, TJ Blackwell, and Liz Clyde dive deep into the heartwarming and action-packed world of *Big Hero 6*, a standout flick from Disney's Revival Era. They kick things off by highlighting how this movie expertly tackles themes of grief and healing, illustrating the power of friendship and family in overcoming loss. As they reminisce about their personal connections to the film, each host brings their own unique insights, from Liz’s relatable perspective as the fun aunt to TJ’s revelations about the characters' emotional journeys. The trio also chat about the film's stunning animation and clever humor, all while navigating some slight technical hiccups in their audio. With a blend of nostalgia and thoughtful critique, they remind listeners why *Big Hero 6* deserves a top spot in the Disney pantheon. So grab your marshmallow-shaped buddy, and let’s geek out about this delightful cinematic experience!
Takeaways:
Will, TJ, and Liz explore how 'Big Hero 6' intertwines themes of grief, loss, and friendship, making it relatable for audiences of all ages.
The podcast emphasizes the dynamic between Hiro and Baymax, showcasing how technology can provide emotional support during tough times.
Listeners learn about the unique setting of San Fransokyo, blending elements of San Francisco and Tokyo to create a captivating backdrop for the film.
TJ and Liz share their personal connections to the movie, highlighting how it resonates with their experiences of family and loss in a heartfelt manner.
The discussion reveals how 'Big Hero 6' diverges from typical superhero narratives, focusing on intellect and invention rather than superpowers, which adds depth to the characters.
The trio reflects on the film's animation quality, praising its attention to detail and vibrant visuals that elevate the storytelling experience.
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Will Rose:
day we're going to talk about:
And to talk about this movie that I dearly, dearly love are assuming two of my favorite geeks who I haven't geeked out with in a while. It's been a hot minute since we've been on an episode together. TJ and Liz. How are we doing? How are you feeling? What's going on? Liz, go first.
Liz Clyde:
Doing pretty well. Just getting back in the swing, Back to school, back to routine. So just.
TJ Blackwell:
Just checking along for me. Everything is better now. I get to spend time with Will again.
Will Rose:
Yeah, yeah. All is well, and I am now.
TJ Blackwell:
Officially recognized by the state of South Carolina as a business owner. Comes with its own perks. Ooh.
Will Rose:
Can't. Can you reveal what the business owner is? Can you. Can you can reveal. Reveal. Reveal to us.
TJ Blackwell:
Yeah.
Will Rose:
No.
TJ Blackwell:
We're called NVMe computers. We build computers. We ship them locally. For now, we. I don't trust USPS or UPS or FedEx.
Will Rose:
Ah, I love it. I love it. Well, let's. I would geek out on that. Let's hop right into what we're geeking out on. I'll share first. I'm really geeking out on Alien Earth.
I like the Alien franchise. I like those movies. I like sci fi.
TJ Blackwell:
Horror.
Will Rose:
I like sci fi. I like some horror. You put them together. I like the Aliens franchise. The first few episodes of Alien Earth I thought was right in the universe.
Super fun. I first watched the first episode.
Like, I'm gonna watch 10 minutes and just to see what the vibe is like and then end up watching, like, two hours of it. So I'm.
I'm geeking out hard on Alien Earth and can't wait to geek it out with other hosts on systemic ecology and other friends who I know at Theology Beer Camp who really loves the Alien franchise. Liz, what are you geeking out on?
Liz Clyde:
Well, even though you can't see this in the video, but not too long ago I put together the One Piece. Lego just released like a One Piece series. So of course I had to put I was pre ordered it so I did the growing Mary ship.
So I had to rewatch all of the Netflix one piece and prep for season two coming. So a little bit of One piece this one but and Legos. So two great things.
Will Rose:
Nice.
TJ Blackwell:
For me. I've been geeking out really hard on Cyberpunk again recently.
The game's five years old at this point, but it's so good every time you go back to it, they've really transformed it.
Will Rose:
Nice, nice. I love it. All right, yeah, thanks. Thanks Geeks. We're geekologists and share with us on social media and other platforms what you're geeking out on.
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This is the second film in our covering of the revival era. The third one that we're going to do is Moana and our friend Joshua. It made up the quarantine era.
We can talk about that later on and you can catch up on all the playlists of all the people who love Disney and dis nerds and catching up all our thoughts on all the Disney films and movies and all that stuff on our playlist in the description below. All right, so diving into this movie, let's share a little bit of our relationship to this movie. How are we introduced to it? When did we see it?
, I know what era I was in in:
TJ, share with us, what's your relationship with Big Hero 6? I love this movie.
TJ Blackwell:
So I. I actually didn't, like. I didn't watch Big Hero 6 when it came out. I was 15. So that's like, just. Just old enough to not want to go see the new Disney movie, you know?
So I just didn't catch it for a couple years. I didn't feel motivated to watch it even until after senior trip, like with the school.
That year was to Disney World, and I got my picture taken with Baymax, and I was like, you know what? I should probably watch Big Hero 6 actually. And then I watched it, and I love it. I never, like, read the comic books, was not aware they existed.
But I do really love the movie, and it bothers me a lot. One of my favorite youtubers has a reoccurring bit where he thinks, spoiler warning, Callahan is like a bad twist villain. I don't agree.
I don't agree. I think he has good motivations.
Liz Clyde:
Yeah. For me, I can't remember when I watched it. I just know it was. I watched it and I loved it. So I've seen it probably like two or three times.
But I cannot tell you the first time I watched it. Just that I loved it, maybe because back in the day, when. How long ago has Disney plus been a thing?
Maybe I watched it on Disney plus because I know for a fact I did not see it in theaters.
TJ Blackwell:
So probably like four years maybe.
Liz Clyde:
So maybe it could have even been I saw on Disney not even that long ago, because I feel like it has been that long since I first seen it. I just can't tell you when. Just that I'm glad it's forever a part of my life now, and my life is better now that I've seen it.
Will Rose:
Yeah, that's a true statement. Yeah.
ht before COVID So maybe like:
know it came after Frozen in:
And my kids were 10 and 12 at the time, so they were still in that age, in that kind of age gap where we go to these Disney movies together and these animated movies together with each other. And so I remember hearing that Big Hero 6 was a marvel graphic novel and a comic book that I didn't know that I hadn't heard of that before.
And so I was like, oh, I'm into comics. I'M into Marvel. I like the writer Chris Claremont. Let's see what they do with this movie.
So to see this adaptation of a Marvel comic on the big screen and see what Disney does with it was pretty excited about that. So coming off of Frozen, both girls really love Frozen and the animation there was just superb, I think. Yeah.
For Big Hero 6, we were there in the theater with the kiddos and I loved every second of it. The soundtrack, the music, the animation.
I went and I don't think Marvel Digital had their unlimited app at the time, but I know since then I've read that comic in the digital app to kind of see what they use and what they didn't use. And there are differences there with that. Yeah, man. I think we've shared and kind of spoiled it.
We really love this movie a lot and think it's right up there with, with Disney Gold, TJ and Liz. Like tj, why don't you start like summarizing the plot of this movie and then let's fill in the gaps and then. And then I'll hop in as well.
TJ Blackwell:
So Big Hero 6 is kind of like I could see a future where they did like a whole long franchise about Big Hero 6 and this like the first movie background about like the formation of the team that's kind of the story. But the actual plot of the movie, it's about Hiro Hanada last name. Pretty sure it's Hanada. I feel stupid. I watched the movie like a couple days ago.
But it's about Hiro. He's our main character. Haha. Funny. His name is Hiro. It's just a Japanese name. It's not like actual. It's not H E R O.
His name's Hero and he is a young genius robot builder, mechanical genius. And his big brother is much the same and he's going to. Did they ever say the college's name in the movie? It's like it's Caltech.
Basically it's their in universe version of Caltech. And as robotics prodigies and you know, it goes through. Hero, you know, is a slacker. He's a genius.
So he likes to spend his time and money and smarts building robots to fight each other until he goes to Caltech and realizes like, wow, I could actually like apply myself and become part of like the frontier of robotics here. So he has to prove himself to Professor Callahan and be like a genius.
So he does that and he creates the microbots and they do their whole showcase thing. I'm just walking through the Whole movie.
And then after, when they, you know, he gets his offer letter to be accepted, it blows up the whole, the whole building blows up. His brother runs in to save their professor and his brother dies. And that is tragic. Plummets him, you know, into his depression.
The rest of their students, who are the rest of Big Hero 6, you know, we get to know them a little bit and then we get to go through Hero's journey of reconciliation with the fact that his brother died. And Baymax, which is.
If you know anything about Big Hero 6, as you probably know, Baymax is actually his brother's creation and he is a healthcare robot. And he's lovable and soft and all these things to make you feel comfortable. And he's the perfect doctor.
And we go through him, you know, kind of coping with his loss of his brother with Baymax, because Baymax was programmed by his brother. That's. That's him. And he doesn't realize that until a pretty good way through the movie. And he tries to change Baymax's what he thinks he should be.
But it, you know, it is the twist. Villain Professor Galen is alive. He is the bad guy. He steals heroes microbots idea and let his brother die and uses it for revenge.
His own little revenge plot that was there in the background because the other big tech guy, Cray, tries to buy heroes microbots at the showcase and he's like, no, no thanks. I'm gonna go be a nerd. Which is almost exactly what he says, actually. Big, big part of it. But that's what we do.
And they form Big Hero 6 with each of the kids, like special robotics genius specialties and that's their superpower. And they go fight Hiro's microbots. Think that's pretty much it. But it's super fun. The cast is super cool. They're all unique.
They're all fun to learn about. There is one guy who is not a scientist. He's a sign spinner. Fred. Shout out Fred. Love Fred. But it's really, it's special.
It's, I think, some of Disney's finest non musical work. I really mean that, Liz.
Will Rose:
Did he forget anything?
Liz Clyde:
Yeah. What really kind of captures this too. Like I said, I think I. I'm pretty sure I watched it not too long ago.
So I was definitely in my like later twenties when I watched it.
So it, even though I'm kind of outside that Disney kid era, so much older than hero, much older than like, you know, the college student that it portrayed, I connected well to the aunt. So what it does TJ didn't mention is Hiro and his brother. They actually live with their aunt.
So the aunt has taken care of them and has taken them in, and she's, like, the fun, cool aunt, which I can relate to because I'm the fun, cool aunt.
So walking through her dynamic, raising her two nephews as a single mom, and also the dynamic of once the older brother Tadashi has passed, like, even how he handles hero handles grief and how the aunt is trying to give him space but still encourage him. Like, it's just so much depth in that family dynamic that I really appreciate. So, yes, it's fun, it's quirky. I love. I love Big. Is that Bayamax?
And, like, the childlike that they brought to him. But just, like, that family dynamic of the aunt really, like, touched me.
And, like, just walking through grief because, like, people who've walked through grief, like, it's just. It's a. It's a battle. Like, even years down the road, you don't really ever stop grieving, if that makes sense.
And so just kind of, like, showing that throughout the movie, like, it's. You know, you always. You're always hoping, like, all of a sudden, like, the brother comes back, but he doesn't.
So it ends nicely, but it doesn't end perfectly. You know, there's still loss, there's still grief.
And so I really appreciate that, because not every story, like, and they got back together and they found the Prince Charming, and we defeated the evil guy. So it was very real.
TJ Blackwell:
Yeah. That does not happen here. Even though, like, yeah, like, Baymax.
Baymax dies, but not really, because Hiro is a genius, and he just makes another Baymax. He has Tadashi's original personality chip to put in the new Baymax. So it's exactly the same. So it's. It's a sweet ending.
I think it does actually kind of make the climax a little less poignant, where Baymax sacrifices himself to save Hiro.
And that's when Hiro realizes that that's the only way that he can confront his grief is by accepting it and realizing that, yeah, Baymax is gonna be gone, but he's not gonna forget Baymax. Baymax is still a part of his life because he was in his life. And I think it's a really phenomenal climax. And then it's not lessened greatly. It just.
It feels a little bit cheap that he built another one, but they don't cover it very much. It's just like, oh, yep, built another one. Tadashi's Chip. But I still think it's great.
Will Rose:
Yeah, I think, yeah, that ending was a cliffhanger that there's more story to be told. And so they do. On Disney, you do have an animated series of like three or four seasons.
I think of Big Hero 6, like episodic more adventures with Baymax and that team in the animated series on Disney XD and all that. So they left it, you know, left it hanging out there that it could be a second movie or an animated series they can put on Disney plus or Disney xd.
So I, I kind of agree with that. But like Liz was saying, I think it's important that they really touch on, on, on grief and what that means.
And since Baymax is healthcare robot, he's not only just like there to put like, ointment on a cut, but he's. They're also like. On a scale of 1 to 10, how are you feeling? What's going on? Oh, you're hitting puberty. You got smooth swings.
Let me tell you what's going on. That's kind of comic relief there, but also like, you're. He's also there to say, how are you feeling? Let's.
Let's get in touch with what you're really feeling. Don't lash out. Let's. What's. What's really going on deep inside you. And so I like how the movie did that.
And I think other Disney movies coming on later, whether it's inside or out, are really touching on human emotion and what that means and what we do with our emotions and what that looks like. But I think they start there. I think Frozen also dealt with kind of grief. And we talked about parents in other episodes of Disney.
Parents and good and bad and different through the eras. And here you. Have we mentioned Aunt Jazz or Cass where, where she is. Yeah, she's a cool aunt, but she's. Yeah, she's also there for. For her nephews.
And there's a deeper family story there. What I like about this is a superhero story, but they're not superheroes with superpowers. They're like super geniuses with tech.
So they invent their own weapons. They are in this super genius school building off Iron man and Iron Heart or whatever.
He's building an armor for his healthcare robot, who in the comic was like a bodyguard. A little different in the comic, but.
But here they're a super genius team that have different gifts, that have different powers, but it's all from their own genius and what they invent. And I love how this team kind of comes together and friends, the comic relief. I just thought this, this team is super cool. Way, way cool.
And not necessarily with superhuman powers or mutants, but they invented all their stuff and that little micro.
But in terms of like nanotechnology, you know, from a decade ago, thinking about nanotechnology or robotics and what that looks like, I think it still applies. They're kind of building on this is what down the road this could look like. So, so yeah, I, I really enjoy this movie.
And what do you guys think about like, the setting? Like, it was, it was not, it was Asia, but not San Francisco, but what is it? San Fran. Tokyo? Is that what, what it was?
Is that the setting of what they're lifting up? Are they was Disney going out for another artist that extending to the San Francisco audience or like bridging the world together? Yeah, that's it.
TJ Blackwell:
Yeah. So it's San Fransokyo.
And they, they want to in because I'm pretty sure in the comic books they're just like in Japan, it's Japanese and they wanted to be more relatable. So what they did was they made it about this young Japanese boy and like their version of San Francisco, which is San Fransokyo. And it's really cool.
It's got like the Golden Gate Bridge, but it's actually the, oh, what are they called?
Will Rose:
The Golden Gate Bridge.
TJ Blackwell:
Dang.
Liz Clyde:
Taurus.
TJ Blackwell:
Yeah, the gates, like the Golden Gate Bridge, they make that with the Japanese super cool gates. It looks dope.
It's a really fun way to like familiarize the setting because, you know, they're releasing this for primarily an American audience who's familiar with, you know, San Francisco more than Tokyo. And you know, there's Caltech. So it's a, it's a really dope setting and it's really cool to watch them like, exist in the city.
Especially the chase scene between Dr. Gallaghan and like them in their little like Fiat 500 racing around San Fransokyo. That's really good. The best chase scene in a Disney movie, I think. Nice, nice. Yeah, yeah, I second, second best chase.
Will Rose:
And I think the animation. Before we go to the ranking, I do want to talk about animation.
I think, you know, Frozen was incredible and, and this era is incredible, but, and get the Moana is incredible. This one is right up there. I, I, I don't see a flaw in it at all.
Like, and doing the perspective of the flying scenes and you seeing the emotions on their faces and yeah, Baymax is a very plain robot. He's just like a. A blow up. Like one of those things you see in front of car lots.
You know, they're flapping at you in the wind, waving at you for whatever to lure you in to buy a car. But he. He. But they build, like a super cool armor for him.
And learning what his power is and how he morphs to be a part of the team, I think was genius. So rewatching this not that long ago, the animation and art is. It's just. I couldn't. It's perfect.
I don't know what you guys think about animation being. I like good animation, good cartoons. But this one. This was up there.
TJ Blackwell:
Mm. Yeah. I feel like people don't talk about Big Hero 6 as much because, like, when I'm watching it, it's. It's like, it's flawless.
It just looks exactly how they wanted. Was gorgeous, and you just don't even think about it. Yeah. Yeah. This looks. This is. This is good. This looks great.
And I can't imagine how hard it was to animate the microbots because there's some detail in those things. Oh, my goodness. The microbot structures that they use pretty much throughout the film is crazy. And they look so good.
Liz Clyde:
Never have I ever wanted to hug something in my life, though, watching Big Hero stick.
So when we went to Tokyo, we went to a museum called Team Labs, and there was this room with giant balls, like giant white balls, and they were kind of inflated, and I would not leave that room. And there's so many pictures of me just hugging the balls. And I kept on saying, this is. This is the closest I'll ever get to hugging Bayamax.
And so that is a dream even, I think. Was it. What was it the North Carolina Comic Con?
We went to and we saw Bayamax and we got really excited until we looked inside and all of our dreams got crushed because it was a weird guy inside. But the point is, I did not hug him, listeners, in case you were concerned for my safety, I knew better not to hug him.
But the point is, never have I ever wanted something to be so real. And, like, we're so smart. Why can't we create RPMXes right now?
TJ Blackwell:
I think we could. I don't know.
Liz Clyde:
I don't see why we can't.
TJ Blackwell:
I think you're overlooking mascots.
Will Rose:
Like the.
TJ Blackwell:
The inflatable mascot suits. I think that that would feel similar.
Liz Clyde:
No, because it's so hot inside. Because I've been an inflatable mascot for a trunk or treat when I was Pikachu. And that's just not like. The hug's not the same. You can't hug that.
I mean, granted, lots of kids hugged me, but it wasn't the same. The same, like, longing I have whenever, like, it's like. It's like hugging a marshmallow. A warm, toasty marshmallow. I want that in my life.
TJ Blackwell:
Yeah, we just need. We need to find a way to get someone to wear a huge, like, hot water balloon. Like, you know what I'm talking about? Like, yeah. Yeah.
Liz Clyde:
Next time we all get together, this.
TJ Blackwell:
Is going to be our project, right? Filling a giant balloon with warm water and getting someone to walk around it.
Liz Clyde:
I like it.
Will Rose:
Yeah. Yeah.
I guess, you know, yeah, the question there, not to go off on a tangent there, but do you want someone, like, a real person in it, or do you want it to be programmed a certain way?
Like a robot that is, like, genuinely benevolent, that can program to be, like, really caring and loving, that doesn't have, like, they can't get too hot or too grumpy when they don't eat that. They can just always be Baymax from that kind of computer tech, AI, whatever. What we rather have.
Liz Clyde:
No, definitely robot. Yeah, People suck. Give me AI computers all day long.
Will Rose:
I love it. I love it. All right, so we're going to get a little deeper into some, you know, some of our favorite scenes and characters and stuff.
And then I think this movie does have a pretty good, strong message that we can lean into. But in terms of our rating, where are we putting this? Where we ranking this?
You know, if you have to give a little prelude on how you rank movies, that's fine, too, But. But how you ranking it, Liz. TJ then. Then I'll rank.
Liz Clyde:
I will give this a 9.8. I think that's probably the highest rating I've given with all of my. My stuff. Maybe Mulan. I think I gave Mulan A10 because, like, Chinese.
And I felt like it was my heritage. I had to, like, gave it 10. But yeah, 9.8. No, because, yeah, correct. Milan was complete bias. This is just. And the I minus the point, too, because.
Which is really in its genius and stuff. I still. It's like when you watch the Lion King, you still don't want Mufasa to die.
You still have hope that, like, maybe, just maybe, he won't fall into the canyon. Right? And so, like, when I rewatch it, then, like, maybe, just maybe, like, he really didn't die. So, yeah, 9.8.
TJ Blackwell:
That's a good answer. I was thinking Like a strong nine. A really strong nine for me. Definitely. Just. It really. It stands the test of time. It still looks great today.
The story is great. The characters are great.
Even so Fred, the non scientist of Big Hero 6 in the climax of the movie where they're, you know, in their final battle, he even realizes that his greatest strength is not the suit that was made for him. It was his ability as a sign spinner. And they don't start winning until he starts spinning signs. It's great.
Will Rose:
Nice. Yeah, I'll give it a 9 and then I'll bump it to a 9.2. Because of Fred. I like Fred and I like his character.
He's gotten the comic relief, I think him and his suits and being able to dress up and those. Not like Iron man armor, but. But a miniature Kaiju that breathes fires is pretty fun. So. So, yeah, 9.2 for me. I do. I agree with TJ.
Laker frame was like. Yeah, the. The whole Callahan coming back and being the villain and. Yeah. Something. But. But yeah, I even touches on his grief. How he responds to grief.
We'll talk about in a minute.
Kind of this movie like our response to grief and what we use with tragedy and trauma makes a difference whether, you know, we're going to use that for. For good or.
TJ Blackwell:
Or.
Will Rose:
Or for to be a villain. So I'm. I'm. I'm up there 9.2.
And I. I think if you look at all the rankings of where it is, it's funny that they didn't really make a second movie or try to capitalize on it, but I guess it was that animated series on XD that that's where they were doing it and I guess. Where does Disney show up in the parks?
I've been a few times, but have we seen Baymax in the Wild or Big Hero 6 marketed among Disneyland Disney World? Do you guys know as the dis nerds of the show?
TJ Blackwell:
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I took my picture with Baymax in 17.
Liz Clyde:
I'm sure he's there. I just never seen him. When I'm gone. I would freak out like a little schoolgirl and probably push a kid. But, you know, probably for the best.
I haven't seen him so I don't end up on the news.
TJ Blackwell:
Yeah. I'm not sure if he's like currently in action, but I definitely got my picture taken with him, you know, eight years ago.
I think I still have the picture somewhere.
Will Rose:
I. We should post that. Send it to me and I'll post it on one of Our social media posts when we're talking about this movie, I. I like the idea.
The scene in my head is as Liz goes up to a kid, pushes the kid out of the way. The kid scrapes his knee, and then Baymax turns and ignores you and goes to the kid and say, what? How? Rate your pain from 1 to 10.
And the kids like, pain in my knee is a 3, but my emotional pain's a 10. Where's the scary lady? But I think that's funny.
That's the way I'm going to create my head of something that happens on the news that goes viral out there in the world. All right, let's get into our. All right, favorite scene, favorite character, favorite fight from the film. 3 or 1. What stands out for you?
What's a moment or character in the field that a film that you really like?
TJ Blackwell:
My favorite scene is probably the chase scene where Gogo has to take the wheel over from Wasabi, you know, show him how to actually drive in San Fransokyo. I love it. It's so dynamic. It's so fun to watch. I love racing as a whole. So, like, watching that scene is so well done, and it's beautiful. It's like.
It's like one of the dreams for, like, a driver is to just have free reign in the streets of San Francisco. I love it. It's so good. It's so well done. And it's. You love it because, like, that's her whole thing. It's wheels.
But for favorite character, not hero, probably Honey Lemon. I think Honey Lemon is just, like, the most infectious character that Disney has ever created. She's so bright and bubbly and not obnoxious somehow.
Not sure how they did that. That was crazy. But I love her. She's super cool. Her power is super cool. In the comic book, it's different.
Like, this is one of the few things that I know in her. In the comic book, she still has, like, the power purse, but instead of, you know, being like a chemical mixing bag, is a bag with wormholes in it.
And the wormholes go to a bunch of different dimensions that she can access freely and, like, store stuff. Like, that's insane. And then her change in the movie is just really good. And she's super fun. Fight might also be the chase scene. Can I say that?
That seems fair to me. That seems fair.
Will Rose:
Nice. Liz, how about you?
Liz Clyde:
So I think one of my favorite scenes is it's when they got caught in the rain or something like that. And Fred was like, well, just go to my place and we find out Fred is freaking rich. Like, Richie rich. Like, the. He has his own butler rich.
And everyone was just like, wait, you're not homeless?
TJ Blackwell:
Yeah. That's like, right after the chase scene, they're like, we go to my place and it's a mansion. He just has art of himself on the walls.
He has, like, commissioned, like, Kaiju suits.
Liz Clyde:
Yeah, that. That is the best. Best scene ever, hands down.
Will Rose:
movie and he's still alive in:
Stan Lee's got a picture with the family. So he's. He could be bankrolling that. That super school of geniuses, but who knows? But I love it that.
That there's a Stan Lee cameo in the family portrait on the wall.
TJ Blackwell:
Now that scene also speaks to the experience of being a young adult and then finding out, oh, like, oh, what do you do for work? And it's just familiar with generational wealth. Like, oh, he's just rich. He's been rich his whole life. Oh, that's cool. Sweet.
Liz Clyde:
But he's so humble and chill. I love it.
TJ Blackwell:
Yeah.
Will Rose:
Unassuming. I really. I love the whole. I don't really have a favorite character. I like their dynamics as a team.
Each character is so different, not just in their look, but also their power set or their genius level. I like the diversity on the team, and I use that. The broad sense of diversity that.
That each one of them is so different to have, like, distinct characteristics and you like each one of them. So for me, I love how they brought this team together, these kids together, these young adults together.
I really like the dynamic and the chemistry among them. One of my favorite scenes. I like the fight scenes. I like the little twist. I like the animation with those, as you said, tj, those microbots.
The opening scene where there's this battlebots going the town and kind of the big reveal of who he is and how he's a genius and how unassuming he is, but then he wins. Is. Is just really, really good and funny. But I do like it when they first are creeping up on the island and they're like, be careful.
He could be anywhere. And they hear, like, a noise behind him, and they turn around and just unleash their. All their power on something.
Ends up being like a little pigeon, you know? And then the pigeon just flies away. I Love you. It's kind of it real. It reveals what they can do or could do.
And kind of a funny way before the big battle scene.
And then you got to get in the serious aspect of who they're battling, who the villain is, the big reveal and how, how, you know, they're all experienced some kind of trauma and how they respond to it. I, I think that's really, really, really well, well done. Let's get. Let's get deeper a little bit here. We talked about it. We alluded to it.
This movie deals a lot with trauma and we think about what makes a hero and what makes a villain. We talk about it all the time. It's in our intro.
But yeah, you see their response to grief and the loss of a loved one and then what they do with that energy. You know, we've all experienced grief in our own lives and we've responded in probably healthy ways or unhealthy ways.
Do you think this movie does a good job in helping, you know, kids and Disney fans of all ages, children of all ages, as we said, with the reality of grief and what that could look like?
TJ Blackwell:
Yeah, I think so. I think it really proposes, you know, enforces a healthy way of handling your grief. And it's really important for children to see that kind of thing.
And, you know, they weren't afraid to make Big Hero 6 a little more grown. I'm pretty sure it's the only. It's the only Disney movie where we see a family member explode. So it's got that going for it.
Will Rose:
Yeah. Liz, I know this is close to your heart and life experience too, and faith expression.
Liz Clyde:
I mean, the reality is being in like, it's. It's a trend right now on Tik Tok, which, you know, you have to. When you have trauma, you try and find a little humor to it.
But it's like a lot of people are doing that candy salad type deal and it's like, my name is Isabelle and I brought. My dad died in a car accident at 4 and was burned alive. And I brought the sour gummies. And then like a kid is like, my name is blah blah.
And my, you know, like. And so the reality is everyone has some kind of trauma. Everyone's going through something.
Like, you're not alone in grief or suffering or just a bad hand that you felt like life has dealt you. So, I mean, you kind of can look at it as like, well, this guy, he already lost his parents. And so a lot of kids may not have parents, right?
They might be in the foster care system, watching this. And now he had to lose his brother. And now. And it shows that how he, he gets angry, he gets depressed.
He doesn't want to talk to people, he doesn't want to do anything. He starts acting out, which is, you know, very common, a very real reaction.
But then it kind of, it does show him, like, he had to slowly get pulled out of it and, like, he found purpose and reliving and, like, creating his brother's dream and bear Max. And then he finds out, like, well, now there was foul place. Now he has purpose in trying to figure out the truth.
And so how he's climbed out of his grief can be really inspiring to someone. So. Because, I mean, everyone has trauma, but you don't have to stay there and let it, like, defeat you. Right.
So I feel like it does a really good job with the entry level of, like, the little kids, you know, kind of just seeing, like, oh, wait, my life isn't like a Disney princess.
My life is kind of like that where people just kind of leave me, and I don't know why, and I didn't do anything wrong, but now I have to fight this bad guy when I should just be home playing video games.
Will Rose:
So, yeah, I, I, I like that.
I think, yeah, this movie talks a lot about, you know, there's family and then there's found family, and then there's friendships and what that can mean to you.
So I like it that that Baymax, a part of that healthcare robot's care for him, is, is not just like, the physical pain there, but also, like, I contacted your friends because you didn't. You needed them in your life. You're not in this alone. Don't shut down. Don't close people off. That's a part of the grieving process.
Like, not wanting to be around people or talk about it. And you do.
Yeah, you slip into maybe some depression and you don't want to be around folks, but to have your friends have him call, have the robot call the friends back in to say, let them help you with this. And that newfound purpose was like, I'm gonna get back this revenge.
But then they figure out what a more healthy response that is at the end is maybe not, not revenge, because, hey, look, he's going through it too, that being able to relate with the other person or empathize with other person, but then it's really the friends that are there to bring him through. And again, like a hug. Yeah, just hugging, hugging Baymax will help when it comes to that. Maybe that at the end.
And then there's that hope, like it didn't have a clean ending. Well, you brought the brother back. He's. The brother's not in another dimension.
Baymax did sacrifice himself, but there's hope that you can kind of build. Build something new, a new chapter in your life.
And it may not be the exact same, but you build on what, what other people have built before you and build upon that. Whether it's technology or the emotional intelligence in your own life, you can, you can build on and learn from those things. So I think that was.
I think it's really, really well done there. And I like how they portray friendship. You got to get your team together.
That's why I have systemic ecology, to get our teams together, to walk through life together. Not only geek out together, but walk through life.
So friends out there, if you're going through a hard time, if you're experiencing grief, if you need someone to talk to, we are here for you. Yeah, maybe a podcast like I don't know those guys. But if you just want to reach out and ask a question.
A lot of us are in, in churches and ministry and have been a part of healthy communities that, that know good resources, that if you need extra help, we may not be your Baymax, but we can be extra help that you reach out to and just share with you that you're not alone in your grief. Cool. Are we leaving any threads out there? Anything out there that we're forgetting?
TJ Blackwell:
Josh is pretty close to Baymax. Oh, Josh, Josh. Josh does like the fist bump thing. He does that. He's been doing that.
Will Rose:
Yeah, we forgot about that. That's one of the best stains.
Liz Clyde:
You bump it and you kind of blah, blah, blah.
TJ Blackwell:
Yeah, but he does like the. That Baymax does. He's been doing that bit for 11 years. Yeah.
Will Rose:
Nice, nice, nice, nice. Well, friends, thanks for listening. Thanks for your support. Thanks for being a part of our superhero team.
Whether you're like Fred and just your bankrolled and have tons of dough and you want to just throw a little bit our way to keep systemic ecology roll rolling smoothly or going to events or going to comic cons, we'll gladly take that support.
Or if you just want to pray for us, or if you just want to reach out and say, hey, throw a heart or like on one of our social medias, that keeps us going too. And again, you know, write rank and like and support us any way you can. We support that and we're just. We're really grateful. Great.
For here as geekologists with you in this life and adventure of geeking out, we're going to do an extra question. And so we want you to hop on over to Captivate or the AMP channel on Apple Podcasts. AMP Channel.
And our question is, if you could have your own personal Baymax, what would its primary function be?
You know, in the comic book it was like this powered up like Bodyguard, but in the movie it was a healthcare robot, an emotional support AI robot that is like a big fluffy marshmallow. But if you could have your own Baymax, what would it be? And so your host here, tj, Liz and I will answer that over there in the extra question.
Hop on over. We could be a part of it. Thanks, y'.
Liz Clyde:
All.
Will Rose:
Any, any last threads out there, TJ or Liz, that if we go to bed tonight and we're like, man, I didn't share about this movie in this way or this scene. I think the fist bump and the little.
I'm glad you brought that up because I think that's what I would have like, man, we didn't talk about that because that's a good scene. Anything. We're hanging out there.
Liz Clyde:
I think I've said it all.
TJ Blackwell:
Wasabi is cool. Wasabi doesn't get enough love. He's kind of the least interesting. He's just like the perfectionist.
Yeah, but like Wasabi and he gets the cool power gauntlets, his plasma induced lasers.
Will Rose:
Yeah. You know, you just sparked something else. Like, you know, your team doesn't have to all be the same. You need, you need to have different functions.
Just like St. Paul talked about the body and the hand and the foot and the ears and the eyes, they all have different functions, part of the same body. You know, you have extroverts, introverts, people with different skills. Some people don't get as much love.
Some people aren't as funny as Fred, but some people you know, are a little more serious. You need, you need the whole gang together to round out, round out your team. And I love that. Any recommendations as we close this thing up?
Is anything out there could be what we talked about, could be about Disney. It could be a book or whatever. Anything we want to recommend to our folks out there.
What I love about cismic ecology, I think I have the pulse on geek culture of this day. But every time I hop on it episode, I always learn something new and add to my list of things to geek out on. Tj, anything to recommend out there.
TJ Blackwell:
I. So I'm.
This is a weird one because I haven't actually read it, but the Fourth Wing, pretty popular dragon novel series is doing a collaboration with the Colorado Avalanche, the NHL team, and they're releasing like a whole special edition of the book for it. So I recommend picking that up. That's really cool. I'm probably gonna pick it up just because it's really sick.
Will Rose:
Nice.
TJ Blackwell:
I've also heard a lot of good things about it. Cool.
Will Rose:
Liz, how about you?
Liz Clyde:
Let's see.
I've just been listening to a lot of audiobooks lately, so if you don't have time to do much of anything, there's so many free audiobooks on YouTube and so I've been listening to a lot of Victorian style because I love like, I love that time period Victorian and stuff. So just a lot of soireways and balls and like, you know, the, the whole like noble high society of like London. I love it for some reason.
So I've just been listening to that. So if you don't, even if you don't like it and you find you have little time, just get an audiobook. There's so many.
Literally every genre is available on YouTube to listen to for free.
Will Rose:
That's fun. That's fun. Yeah. You mean there's comfort foods and then there's like comfort audiobooks. Comfort books.
You sit down and you're like, you just, you just let that wash over you and you're entertained by it. I love it. Yeah, I'm.
I'm going to recommend, I'm going to recommend getting the Marvel Unlimited app for a little bit and read the original graphic novel, A Big Hero six. I, I think it's, I think it's worth it.
Chris Claremont is a legendary X Men writer, can be very wordy, but I think the art style of that, I think it's late 90s when it came out, maybe 97, 98, late 90s art style and, and the storyline, I think is good. It's different from the movie. 99. Yeah, it's. It's different style from the, from, from the movie, but, but yet super fun.
So if you like graphic novels, you like that medium of, of reading and reading comics, I Recommend Big Hero 6. All right, folks, thanks for listening. Thanks for being part of our geekologist superhero team. And remember, always share the faith. Share. Doug.
