Kevin Schaefer, Andy Walsh, and Will Rose dive into the latest episode of What's News on Systematic Geekology, where they dissect the thrilling trailers that have just dropped and the highly anticipated film, "Project Hail Mary". Right off the bat, they’re buzzing about "Project Hail Mary", which Andy proclaims to be one of the best sci-fi films of the 21st century—though, of course, he has a soft spot for it. As they chat about the trailers for "Spider-Man", "Lanterns", and "Dune", the trio showcases their enthusiasm for geek culture, blending insightful commentary with their trademark light-hearted banter. Their discussions not only highlight the cinematic gems on the horizon but also explore the depth of storytelling in "Project Hail Mary", making for an engaging listen for fans and newcomers alike. So, grab your popcorn, kick back, and get ready for some stellar insights and laughs as they navigate the cosmos of geekdom! 

A trio of geeky aficionados came together to discuss the latest happenings in the realm of film and pop culture, diving headfirst into the thrilling world of movie trailers and the much-anticipated adaptation of the novel 'Project Hail Mary'. Kevin Schaefer, along with his trusty co-hosts Will Rose and Andy Walsh, shared their insights and banter that made the conversation engaging and humorous. They kicked things off by exploring a slew of exciting trailers, including those for 'Spider-Man', 'Lanterns', and 'Dune'. The guys dissected each preview, highlighting their thoughts on visuals and storytelling elements, all while sprinkling in witty remarks and light-hearted jabs at each other. As they moved on to 'Project Hail Mary', the discussion turned into a deep dive into the intricacies of the film's adaptation of Andy Weir's work, with Kevin praising the movie's cinematography and performances, especially by Ryan Gosling and the puppet portrayal of Rocky. The camaraderie and chemistry of the hosts, along with their shared passion for geek culture, made this episode not just informative but a delightful listen for fans.

Takeaways:

• The crew dives into the latest trailers, including the much-anticipated launch of the DC's Green Lantern series, which has stirred up plenty of buzz among fans.
• Kevin, Andy, and Will share heated debates about Project Hail Mary, with Andy being particularly passionate about the movie's fidelity to the book.
• Listeners get a sneak peek into the creative process behind bringing the beloved character Rocky to life in Project Hail Mary, showcasing innovative puppetry techniques.
• The podcast tackles the nuances of movie adaptations, emphasizing the balance between staying true to source material and making necessary cinematic adjustments.
• The trio discusses the importance of optimism in sci-fi narratives, especially in Project Hail Mary, which highlights collaboration for the greater good of humanity.
• The episode wraps up with a light-hearted reminder about the importance of balancing centrifuges, courtesy of Andy, blending humor with scientific insights.

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Foreign.

Hail Mary, one of the best sci fi movies of the 21st century.

Or is it simply loved by Andy Walsh?

We will see in this episode because, and we are talking about all that and more.

This is systematic ecology.

We are the priest of the geeks.

And we are here for another what's News episode where we talk about all the latest things in geek culture.

And tonight we have a lot to talk about because not only are we discussing project Hail Mary and sharing our thoughts on the film, but we have some big trailers to talk about.

We've got Spider man, we've got Lanterns, we've got Dune.

So very exciting things to talk about.

And I am one of your hosts, Kevin Schaefer here with two of my favorite geekologists that I think are perfect for this episode, Will Rose and Andy Walsh.

Guys, how are you tonight?

I'm, I'm doing great.

I, it's been a hot minute since I've been on a what's News episode.

So I, I saw the systematic ecology bat symbol up in the clouds.

Answer the call and I'm here and I can't wait to talk about it and hear Andy's thoughts on many things.

So this is going to be fun.

I mean, like I said, you know, project on there a huge movie right now, but I think like, especially, well, we couldn't have.

Yeah, well, I know Christian's not on this episode.

He's doing another one, I think later tonight.

But you know, we got Spider man, we got lanterns.

We gotta have you on for that.

And Andy, this is an absolutely essential one for you to be on because I was saying right before we were recording, you know, we'll get to our thoughts on the movie.

But if there was ever a movie like created specifically for Andy Walsh, I, I, I think this is a pretty tailor made for you kind of film.

Yeah, my, the View, for my front row seat on the Project Hail Mary bandwagon is looking pretty good.

Oh, very exciting.

So I, I'm really excited to get into that, all that and more.

And before we start, I want to give a shout out to all of our listeners, all of our viewers, subscribers, and if you are a supporter, we want to thank you very much.

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We really appreciate it.

All right, guys, well, before we get into the main topics, let us go to that always lovable lightning round.

Oh, nice effect.

That's different.

I like that one.

Yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't find the lightning sound, so I just like that one better.

That was even.

That sounds like.

I don't know also.

Hey, Andy, since you've got your flash T shirt on right now.

Like what?

You know, you look like you were just struck by lightning.

So what is your lightning round pick tonight?

Yeah, my lightning round pick is little movie called in the Blink of an Eye.

It just showed up on Mulu one day.

Memo to the folks at Disney Hulu, when you make movies, tell somebody.

And in fact, I was just rewatching the Lanterns trailer before this and another trailer for another Hulu movie that I'd never heard of that's coming out this Friday popped up.

But time travel movie.

Yeah.

So they just, they just make these movies and they just put them out there and nobody knows.

But this one, Andrew Stanton doing live action sci fi.

You know that I would have loved to have seen this movie.

Maybe get a theatrical release.

Maybe get a theatrical release budget.

The production values looked a little bit on the low side, but a very interesting story.

It covers three time periods.

A Neanderthal family in the in the distant prehistoric past, a genomics researcher in in the present or the near future who's working on Neanderthal and human origins.

And then Kate McKinnon on sort of an ark ship in the distant future and goes back and forth and ties together all those three different stories and sort of the continuity of the human race, past, present and future.

And just has a lot of big ideas and a lot of very current science on human origins on its mind.

And yeah, it's a shame that nobody knows that it exists.

Also, very interesting dramatic performance from Kate McKinnon.

Ah, that.

You saw me there.

I'm a fan that's, you know, Andrew Stanton has done more live action stuff.

I mean, for those.

He was a Pixar veteran, but he directed several episodes of Obi Wan.

And then I think he's done some other things.

But yeah, I'm always interested when I think he did some of Stranger Things as well in the earlier season.

But, but yeah, great pick.

I, you know, I, I love it and I love K. McKinnon.

So.

Yeah.

Will, what about you?

Yeah, I'm, I'm going down.

Kind of a Lobo Rabbit Hole with the new launch of Lobo number one with one of my favorite creative teams with Scotty Young and George Corona.

I think that's how you say it.

And I went and found Lobo's appearance on Superman, the Animated series in season one, which is a good two part story.

Love it.

Really, really good.

And knowing that Lobo is coming up with the Supergirl movie this summer, I been kind of exploring, like his first appearances and where he's been and where he's shown up and things.

And so the new comic number one, Lobo was.

Was really good.

Even if you don't like that character is too over the top.

It is the.

Just the craft of the art and the.

The artwork in this book is just absolutely amazing.

So.

So, yeah, that's what I think you get on just kind of deep dive in some characters.

As much.

As long as I've been in comic books, there are still characters I don't know a whole lot about and.

And like to go deep diving in some of those things.

So Lobo is one of them.

I do want to check the new one out.

I've got now the DC Universe Infinite app.

So reading a ton of comics on there, but yes, I like.

I mean, I'm so excited for momoa to play him this summer.

Yeah, it's gonna be fun.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well,.

I was gonna say if you can capture kind of his feel from.

From the anime series.

That was a lot of fun.

That was a good time.

It's been a while since I've seen those episodes and that was fun to revisit.

And that was when Robert from Everybody Loves Raymond, Brad Garrett did the voice and it was.

That's right.

Yeah.

Well, Andy, you got.

Since you watched the movie on Hulu, this was not a Hulu original, but it's on there now.

And I have been telling everyone about it ever since I saw it.

I wish I had gotten to see this in theaters last year, but a movie called Rental Family with Brendan Fraser, and it is absolutely phenomenal, criminally overlooked, I think.

And I really hope this catches on with more people.

But quick gist is that Brendan Fraser plays an actor who's been living in Japan for the past seven years, and he gets a job with this company that essentially has actors play certain parts for families or individuals.

And so one of the main storylines is he has to essentially pretend to be this girl, young girl's father because the mother is trying to get her into an elite private school and the biological father has never been around.

And so Brendan Fraser has to pose as him and in order to get to an interview, get her into the school.

And of course, he gets attached to her.

That's only.

And they form, you know, this, you know, kind of surrogate parent relationship.

And that's one of the main storylines.

But there's so much into it.

It is just one of the most charming, elegant movies I've seen in recent memory.

Cannot recommend it enough.

So definitely check that out.

It is available on Hulu now.

And yeah, I really hope more people see it.

It was absolutely beautiful.

Nice.

Cool.

Yeah, awesome.

Well, I know we've got a lot to cover tonight, so let's get first to the big trailers that came out recently.

So Blue Detective is premiering on HBO in August.

But yes, we have, we have a little joke there.

But we are of course talking about the lantern series from DC Studios.

And yes, the.

If you're watching on YouTube, you can see that if you're listening to this later.

Yeah, Andy has the title Blue Detective written above the credits and the image from the teaser.

But.

But this is based on Green Lantern and the Green Lantern universe from dc.

It has been advertised as kind of true detective in space.

And the trailer very much captures, I think, a lot of that created by Tom King, which is huge.

Damon Lindelof and Chris Mundy and then star Kyle Chandler as Hal Jordan, Aaron Pierre as Jon Stewart, not Daily Show Jon Stewart, but we'll get to that.

And then Nathan Fillian is resumed.

It's been is confirmed to re reprise his role as Guy Gardner.

So, yeah, lot talk about this trailer.

And I think before we get into some of the discourse around it, let's talk about our thoughts on the trailer first.

Andy, we'll start with you.

So, you know, you got your flash dirt on right now.

Can you talk a little bit about what you thought of this trailer and even some of your background with these characters?

Yeah, I mean, I remember the, you know, having a Green Lantern action figure as a kid and that, you know, that costume design was just so striking.

You know, I didn't really know much else about the character at the time.

You know, he went with my Superman and Batman action figures that I had that, you know, I knew those characters.

I had seen cartoons and read comics and so forth.

But yeah, Green Lantern I knew nothing about other than it's a really cool design.

And, you know, I've dipped in and out of the Green Lantern world at different times.

I think my biggest dive was when they were doing all the different colors of the rainbow and the sinestro Core and then the Sinestro War and all that.

All those stories.

Yeah.

So you know, it.

I like the design of it.

I like the sci fi of it.

And so I was not at all prepared.

I hadn't actually caught that this was supposed to be sort of true detective inspired.

And so, yeah, this, this trailer kind of caught me flat footed.

I was excited for Aaron Pierre.

I was a big fan of Aaron Pierre and Rebel Ridge a couple years ago.

So, yeah, I thought I was going to be very into this and, man, did the trailer just, yeah, leave me underwhelmed.

I hope there's more to it than this.

I want the show to be good.

I don't want it to fail.

But yeah, a true detective take on Green Lanterns was not what I was looking for.

And a very sweary, mopey version of the Green Lantern for all of the sins of the live action movie with Ryan Reynolds.

It certainly captured the, the energy and joy that would come from just being able to, to fly through space right on your own.

And I, you know, I was hoping for a little bit more of that and a little bit less jaded, cynical, you know, detective story kind of thing.

So we'll see.

You know, I'm, I'm assuming that there's a lot that we're not seeing in this trailer.

Maybe this is all episode one kind of stuff and the world will open up and expand and maybe somebody will smile or something at some point.

But yeah, you know, the call sheet so far has done more to get me interested in the show than the trailer.

No great perspective there.

I mean, you know, and it's interesting for me.

Well, first off, like, background of Green Lantern stuff.

So, like, many listeners of this show know I grew up on the DC Animated universe, so Jon Stewart was my Green Lantern from the Justice League Animated series.

Always loved that character.

And then, you know, got more like you and he kind of dipped in and out of the comic stuff.

I'm actually, I'm doing a deep dive right now on the DC apps.

I'm going to go through the whole Jeff Johns run, go through some of the older stories.

You know, there's a lot, I mean, I, you know, I've read a good bit of Jeff Johns over the years because he had an almost 10 year run and covering not just Al Jordan, but all of the Corpse.

And another run I really like is by Sam Humphreys that had focused on two younger Green Lanterns, Simon Baz and Jessica Cruz.

I really like that one.

But yeah, I mean, so going into this trailer.

So I did.

I was very aware that it was gonna.

That they had pitched it as true detective in space, because way back when James Gunn first announced his overall plan for the first phase of the dcu, he said there that, yeah, Lanterns was what.

I mean, not all of those projects have come to fruition.

Some have been canceled, but Lanterns was on the original deck for there.

And.

And he did say it was going to be a more like approach.

It was going to be on Earth.

But to your point, too, I do really think that this is only a glimpse of what we're actually going to see in the show and that it's setting up a lot more.

So, yes, it holds a lot back here, but I agree that I think more of the Green Lantern stuff is going to come up because also because we've already been introduced to a Green Lantern in this universe.

Guy Gardner in the Superman movie was very, you know, I mean, he.

It looks straight out of the comics.

And so.

And the thing about the Green Lantern is, yes, most of their adventures are in space, and, you know, they're intergalactic and intergalactic police force, and you have the Guardians of oa, but there are also ones that do stuff on Earth.

So I'm still very much looking forward to this show.

I think what gives me hope, and this may be what is be the turn off for people, but this is actually what I'm excited about, is the involvement of Dave and Wendelof because he created the Watchmen series, which I think is one of the best comic book adaptations I've ever seen.

Talk about something that has a reverence for the source material but does its own thing and, you know, and is a continuation and does something that I could have never come up with.

So I really love that series.

And, you know, and.

And this brings me to another point, is like, I don't know if you guys saw the discourse between Grant Morrison and Damon Lindelof.

I will.

Danny, did you guys see hear about this?

So Grant Morrison wrote a substack post criticizing, pretty much echoing kind of like your thoughts, Andy.

And also because Damon Lindelof went on a comedy podcast and they were asking, like, why did you drop Green from the title?

And he made just like a.

He's on a comedy podcast.

And like, he regretted it after, but he made like a joke saying, like, well, you know, Green Leonard just sounds stupid.

Oh, we don't want to go with that.

We don't get it.

And he went and like, so Grant Morrison wrote this upstack post, and they Said, you know, stop hiring people who don't care about the source material and want to do that.

You know, this should be a fun, you know, based opera.

And then Damon Lindelop replied, like, it does suck when one of your favorite creators you grew up reading criticize you.

But I do want to say, like, well, he posted a picture of himself at his first Comic Con that he was invited to wearing a Green Lantern shirt.

This is back, like, when Lost was on.

So, I mean, there's no doubt he has a reference for the source material.

But, you know, I've seen many comic book adaptations over the years that take a different approach.

They still have a love for the source material, but do something different.

Arrow being a prime example that has, like, you know, more in common with Batman than it does with Oliver Queen in the comics.

But I still, you know, I love that show for many years, and so.

So, yeah, I'm.

I'm like.

I can't say.

I absolutely love this trailer.

Oh, my gosh, I'm so excited.

I do love Aaron Pierre and Kyle Chandler, so I think they'll be great together.

But I am, you know, curious how they will approach all this while still making it fit into the larger DC universe, because this really did feel more like, you know, when they said true Detective, like space, I was still expecting, you know, space elements, cosmic elements here.

And it seems like this is all, like, very grounded.

But again, I think this is only a portion of what we all see.

And some of the characters in the trailer, I think those might end up being, let's say, Parallax or a Red Lantern in disguise or something like that.

So I think we're bound to see more.

But I'm, you know, I'm still very excited for the show.

I, you know, I certainly have reservations as well, but I'm not as.

Oh, my gosh, this is a complete, you know, butchering of the source material.

So.

Sorry, that was my monologue there.

Will, I want to get your thoughts.

Yeah, a little background.

Like, yeah, I grew up on the Super Friends cartoon, and one of my favorite.

Yeah, I like Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman.

But next in line is, who doesn't want a power ring from space and a calling to do good and be a space cop and fly around with a.

With a power ring.

You know, I remember as a kid putting on a ring and pretending it was a Green Lantern ring.

You know, who doesn't want that?

Whether it's a mag Magic ring from Lord of the Rings or a space ring that.

With a calling.

Yeah, you Want a magic ring.

So I've always loved this character off and on with the comics.

Whoever creative teams on it will follow along.

Yeah.

So I guess in the Superman movie, it was very green.

A lot of green, fluorescent green.

And when they drop green from lanterns to just hide lanterns, there was green is missing.

So I kind of want to see some green.

But they were in the title.

They dropped green from the title, so I guess they dropped it from the trailer, too.

So I did see the ring.

There's green in that saw.

I saw a lantern and a little green there.

So I guess we're going to have Green Lantern.

But.

But I. Yeah, I was kind of underwhelmed by this, too.

The kind of grittiness of it, the cussing, you know, it's like, all right, we're going to do like a peacemaker version of Green Lanterns.

Okay, I get it.

As HBO Max.

But so.

So we'll see.

I'm very hopeful.

I'm.

I'm hoping, like you guys said, that it's just episode one.

And eventually he did mention that there is a Green Lantern who's a squirrel.

So maybe we'll get to see that later on and see the kind of cast of characters in space and more cost cosmic version of this as it goes along.

I do like Tom King a lot.

I do like David Lindelof.

So I, I trust them that they'll create a good show that, that can resonate with the source material and, and kind of expand the DC universe to future things.

So we'll see.

Yeah, I think maybe, maybe Jon Stewart will, you know, show up as the, as the Justice Gang at some point.

Friends.

Friends League, I guess.

I don't know.

We'll see.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, and I've seen one.

So they've also confirmed that Aaron Pierre will be in the next Superman movie.

And so I think I've seen this theory posted, too.

And I think this is possible that they could set this one up as, you know, because you're.

Andy, you were mentioning some of the, like, more cynical aspects of Hal here.

Wonder if maybe this will set it up as Hal ends up being the villain because Parallax has already inhabited him and like, Jon Stewart has to become ultimate Green Lantern here.

So, you know, I think that's possible.

We'll see what they do.

But.

But yeah, I mean, I'm, you know, like, I'm not like, oh, yeah, the trailer didn't, like, blow me away, but I'm also not as quick to reject it.

Oh, I also just decided to the line at the end where he's like, you know, all the.

All the other lanterns are aliens.

I'm the only human, I think.

I mean, because people were like, well, what about Guy?

I think that was a great gig at Guy Gardner from House saying, like, he's not even human.

So I, I did.

I like that line there.

But yeah, and that's also critics.

Hey, I love seeing them encase in like a green glow.

You could have.

You could have at least done that little.

He's flying away.

He's not Superman, you know, he's not Wonder Woman.

Like, let's have him glow a little bit as, as he goes.

But we'll.

We'll see how they do it.

Maybe.

Hopefully that was a test run and they'll get the, you know, they'll hear what the fans and fanboys and fan girls are saying.

They'll do a little listening and touch up and some editing.

When is it supposed to debut?

When does this come out?

It's not till August, so they've been working on it for a while.

So that's.

And it is the teaser trailer.

So, you know, I think let's see what we see in the next one and when the show premieres.

So we still have time there.

But.

But yeah, so we'll see how it goes.

But.

But on a different note, on a one that looks, well, I say much brighter, at least in color and aesthetic, Brand New Day comes out in July, directed by Destin Daniel Cretton, which I'm very excited for.

Speaking of also, Wonder man, they announced today that it's getting a season two.

Very happy about that.

What has Dustin Cranton done?

What else?

Shang Chi.

And then he co created Wonder man.

So.

Nice, nice.

Two for two in Marvel.

In my book, he was gonna direct Avengers, Kang Dynasty, and then when that got scrapped and they went to Reese Brothers, they gave him Spider Man.

So, you know, I think they probably like, gave him, like, options.

But I mean, I'm sure he took up the chance to do Spidey.

So, yeah, very excited for this.

I mean, yeah, if you can't tell, I'm, you know, really stoked for this one.

I love that this is very much a continuation of Tom Holland Peter Parker story and, you know, building off the events of no Way Home.

I love the memes about this one where it's like fans like, you know, stoked to finally see Peter depressed and, and, you know, and.

And, you know, trying to hold on to everything, because that way.

I remember still when the Spider Man Homecoming trailer Came out way back when.

And I was like, okay, that looks fun, but Peter looks really happy there.

And I'm like, you know, where.

Like, where's my emo, Spider Man?

And it.

They actually did a brilliant thing where the first three movies were essentially the origin of this version of Peter, and he ends up with a.

In a worse place than I think Toby and Andrew ever were.

I mean, like, they.

So while they certainly lost people, Peter is now in this version, the mcu.

Peter is now in a world where no one remembers him and Aunt May died and he is completely alone.

So.

But we also get to see some really fun MCU stuff here, bringing in my guy Punisher.

I get to say that because I met John Bernthal, but.

But, like, you got punished here.

You got Hulk, you got Scorpion.

You've got the hand.

I think it's an absolute certainty that Daredevil will be in this movie.

I don't see how it.

And it's going to tie, I think, directly into Born Again season two.

So I. Yeah, I'm The.

The tone of the trailer, everything about it really excites me.

I mean, I think my only reservation is that it does have a lot going on here.

So we'll see how they handle all that.

But again, Destin, Daniel Cretton has delivered two of my favorite MCU projects in, like, in the post endgame era.

So I'm really excited to see what he does.

And also, Chris McKenna and Eric Summers are the returning screenwriters from the previous movies, so I trust them as well.

So I'm very excited.

But, Andy, what about you?

Yeah, I.

You know, I've been sort of ambivalent about this movie or just kind of like waiting.

What?

You know, wait and see, because I. I didn't really know what to expect and these all different stories and theories and whatever, so just kind of like, let's just watch the movie and see how it goes.

And, man, this trailer just.

Just floored me.

That opening image of Peter on the girder just had me hooked.

And I was in from there.

It really.

We got a Spider man of Queens before, and in Brooklyn, Spider man of the outer boroughs.

And now we've got Spider man in Manhattan.

Got the verticality of Manhattan.

The visuals there, just.

Just gorgeous.

Several other frames and images in the trailer were amazing.

I have no idea what the story is other than following up on his loss and his situation at the end of the no Way Home.

But that's cool.

We'll see where that goes from there.

But, yeah, it just looks amazing.

And knowing that again, I've also appreciated what Destin, Daniel Cretton has done with Shang Chi and Wonder man, so that's cool.

And knowing that, you know, Jackie Chan was on set of this film and blessed the, the action design as a.

As they were filming, I, you know, that's got me excited too.

So let's, let's go for a brand new day.

I think it could easily be the best like visually of the, of the MCU Spider man movies.

Like, I mean, again, I enjoyed all three of those, but that was, I think my only like, kind of like it was.

The action was good, but there were just elements in the John Watts movies that could have been better.

And I think here it just looks so much more fluid and you know, it perfectly pays, perfectly executed.

But Will, what about you?

Yeah, again, like where we were, I was underwhelmed with green lanterns and saw no costumes and it's just guys in blue jeans now.

We have a lot of costume here and it's very much a superhero and very, very Spider man, very street level Peter Parker with a suit that he could wash at the laundromat, you know, so I, I think it's very much a costume.

I, I loved it.

I thought it was great.

I love the te with the different characters who are going to show up in this very, very street level.

And, and so, yeah, this is, you know, Christian's favorite title, Brand New Day.

It's his favorite, favorite story arc in the, in the history of comics.

So I'm curious how Christian's gonna feel about this, but I, I do like it and of course where it's going to end up at the end and, or lead to doomsday or bring in Daredevil.

I'm curious about those things too, but let tell a good, you know, street level Peter Parker story.

Yeah, I'm there for it.

It's gonna be, it's gonna be great.

Although I'm just gonna feel so sad.

I hope they don't linger too much of how much every time he looks at his friends who don't remember him.

That is so heartbreaking, man.

I'm like, I hope, I hope that's like the first 10 minutes of the film and then we can like let him go out and, and have a little bit of hope.

But who knows how long they'll lean into it.

I do feel sorry for Peter.

I do.

But I think he will have enough going on in this book because, I mean, we haven't talked about.

We also Sadie Sink still as a mystery Which, I mean, I'm.

I'm gonna bet on it being Gene.

I mean, I read all the theories and stuff of like.

But, you know, there's even like a mind control sequence in this trailer.

They confirmed that before the trailer dropped.

So I, you know, and, and especially to cast an actor of that caliber and status right now, especially coming off the Hills of Stranger Things and all the other things she's doing, like, you can't put a movie star in a role that's anything other than a major Marvel character that's going to be there for multiple movies.

It was no accident that, you know, Dr.

Banner uses the word mutation in there.

So he could have said evolving.

He could have said, you know, leveling up.

He could have said stages, but.

But he used mutation in the phrase.

So I think that's intentional.

Oh, absolutely.

I think it's all building.

This is planting the seeds and, you know, creating a pathway for the Mutant saga that will be, you know, post Secret Wars.

So, yeah, very excited here.

And, well, and speaking of Christian, too, I think, I mean, I, I know he has his thoughts on a Brand New Day storyline, but also this trailer gives the vibe of the 90s animated series as well.

So, you know, the.

The neogenic Nightmare storyline.

So, you know, I think he's still really excited.

Yeah.

So cool.

Alrighty, Spider Man.

Awesome.

And one more trailer before Hail Mary.

So, yes, Dune part 3 and with returning director Denis Villeneuve.

And then I was really excited about this.

I didn't know this until I saw the trailer, but the screenplay for this one was written by Villeneuve and Brian K. Vaughan, the great comic book writer.

So I was really.

I thought this was really cool.

But, yeah, this is part three in the Dune trilogy.

So the first two films adapted the original Dune novel.

This one is adapting Dune Messiah.

I have not read Messiah.

I've only read the first book, so I know only bits and pieces about it.

I do want to read it before the movie comes out, but.

And the trailer doesn't really give much away in terms of story, but it very much sets the tone.

It, you know, clearly time has passed between this and the end of part two.

You know, Paul Atreides is waging war on Versus the Galaxy.

So, you know, there's a lot going on here.

We have all the returning cast members in addition to Robert Pattinson playing a major antagonist here and Anya Taylor Joy playing Paul's sister.

So, yeah, I mean, I love the first two movies really into the first book, so I'm very excited for this one.

Andy what do you have any thoughts or just your background with Dune?

Yeah, my background with Dune begins and ends with the Denis Villeneuve movies.

I was a big fan of his from Arrival and then, you know, some of his other film.

Catching up with those after I saw Arrival, you know, like what he did with Blade Runner and so, you know, more sci fi from.

From Denis Villeneuve.

That sounded good.

So check that.

My.

My son actually has.

Has read the books and so he was.

He was excited for them and so we watched these films together and you know, looking forward to being able to finish out the.

The trilogy with him and maybe the rest of the family.

You know, it looks like, you know, more of the same.

The first two films were very good to excellent, you know, visually stunning and you know, some.

Some meaty sci fi themes and it looks like this is more of the same.

So bring it on.

You know, I wish.

I wish things were being handled a little bit differently in terms of release dates maybe or at least IMAX screens and things like that.

I don't know.

But we'll see.

You know, mostly because I just.

I don't want.

I don't want Avengers Doomsday to do so poorly that we don't get.

We don't get our MCU X Men films.

So please, please don't fumble.

Please don't fumble.

The X Men is all I ask.

But, you know, not because I want this movie to do poorly.

You know, I. I am happy to see this movie do well.

You know, I hope to be able to see both movies in theaters.

Maybe even, you know, we'll do a doom.

Doomsday marathon or something like that.

But yeah, anyway, you know, this film itself, look, I'm excited for.

And yeah, I mean, yeah, I.

You can do both by like two weeks.

Yeah, you can do both.

We can do both, folks.

We can do both.

It's a both.

And come on, y', all, we can.

We can do this.

I'm with Andy.

Yes.

As X Men fan.

Mutant fans, like, we.

We don't.

Let's do it.

Whatever.

Set up in Spider Man.

We can do it.

Yeah, I. I'm looking forward to this.

I mean, the.

The trailer, you know, in terms of the visuals and the music, it just puts you right back in that universe.

And you know, to get a good set of headphones and listen to it is absolutely moving.

And in terms of how they do that.

So I can't wait to go back and re.

Watch the other two and ready for this one and then.

And then do that.

Have the trilogy it's good.

I'm a failed Dune book reader.

Like I always say I'm gonna do this and I read a couple chapters like there's no way I'm gonna get through that thick thing.

So I kind of give up when it comes to reading Dune.

But I, I do like the universe and I like its legendary status and sci fi lore and what it set up for Star wars and sand planets and all those kind of things.

So, yeah, I'll be there.

There.

I'll be there.

I'll definitely see it whenever it opens.

You know, if I have to choose between Doomsday or Dune, which goes first with SSC first, I'll probably see Doomsday first, I'm not gonna lie.

But then I'll see Dune.

There'll be plenty of time.

There's not gonna be as big spoilers with Dune as there will be with Doomsday.

When I watch that, like, I will get spoiled with the ink credit or whatever.

So I'm gonna.

I'll see that one first on the first day and then Dune dun.

You know, there'll be too many spoilers there for that one.

Yeah.

In this world, it's gonna be Thursday night.

If not, if I can get training than that I will.

Yeah.

But Andy, actually, I'm impressed that I've read a science fiction book that you haven't.

This is like earth shattering for me, but I, I like I thought you were gonna say I've read all of the, like, even the ones that are like that Villeneuve isn't as crazy about and like.

But you never.

Oh, you got.

So you've never seen the David lynch film.

I highly recommend checking out.

I know it's weird and stuff, but.

It's weird.

I've seen it.

It has Sting in it.

I'm aware of.

Yeah, it is.

My wife's a huge Sting fan and that even wasn't enough for her.

So I think there's even an action figure I'm Sting out there somewhere you could probably find on ebay, you know.

Yeah, Dune action figures.

I don't know.

I do have a reverence for the lynch film.

I know it's like heavily criticizing stuff, I mean, but it's quite fascinating.

I do recommend checking it out at some point, but.

Yeah, but I.

And I agree, if they could just shift the release dates by slack because, I mean, of course I'm going to watch them both back to back, but I would love to see Doomsday and IMAX and then this and IMAX and, you know, if One is hogging all the screens.

Like, that's going to be problematic.

So just release them.

Like, I mean, they'll both be done by then.

Just release them like, two weeks apart instead of on the same day.

I imagine they will.

I imagine they will.

Yeah.

Now, they just moved.

They just moved Jumanji two weeks to Christmas Day.

There's just not a lot of wheel room.

It's a crowded.

It's the hot.

Yeah, the holiday is always.

It's always for big movies, but.

Yeah.

Well, friends, Christmas presents for you are buying you movie tickets to come see it with me.

So I'll help out.

I'll help out the economy by doing that.

There we go.

Awesome.

All right.

Well, Andy, I'm very.

Well, I'm very excited to get to do the final big topic of the night, which is Project Hail Mary, directed by Phil Lord and Chris Miller, screenplay by Drew Goddard, and based on the novel by Andy.

Weird.

Like, Busy Andy.

Like, I love that Andy.

Where his name even sounds like.

It's, like, close to your.

Like, you're both Andy W. So, like, I feel like if you guys met.

Aw.

Oh, it's great.

But, yeah, well, I don't know who actually, Andy, let's save you for last, because I know you're gonna have, like, the best thought.

I'll give my quick thoughts first here and then will.

I want to hear from you.

But, Andy, I want to hear, like, your full monologue on this movie, because I'm really excited.

But, but, yeah, so I, I have seen Project Hail Mary twice already.

I read the book literally right before I had a few days off work, and so I finished it, like, the night before I saw the movie.

I really enjoyed the book.

I mean, I, I also did the same with the Martian back when that came out.

Read the book right before and, you know, I, like, I, I.

It was interesting because I.

There are people who sent the book, like, like, changed their life.

I mean, it was made, you know, I, it.

I.

For me, I thought the book was very good.

I think this is one of the few cases where I think the movie is even slightly better than the novel because there is just something special about everything about this, really.

All the elements that come together from the cinematography, the directing, the screenplay, the performance by Ryan Gosling, and not just him, but supporting characters like Sandra Holder, um, as Eva Strada, and then James Ortiz bringing to life Rocky.

And I think that was the biggest thing was it's like, when you're reading the book, like, really enjoyed Rocky, but I think the way they brought him to life here.

And the use of puppetry, the voice actor who you do the puppetry as well, the interactions between him and Ryan Gosling's portrayal of Ryland Grace, all of this is phenomenal.

I, you know, so I really love this movie.

I thought it was just a great experience and you know, and for Lord and Miller, they never got to make their Han Solo movie.

You know, they were like, oh, Lucasfilm and Ron Howard took over, but in a way they got to make another at least man in space story and I think something even better.

But, but yeah.

So I, I really love this movie.

Will, I want to get your kind of thoughts on it also, I didn't even get a plot summary, so if you want to talk about up just a little bit what it's about.

Yeah, I, it's Interstellar and ET Had a baby and that's why you have Hail Mary.

And so I, I had re, I re watched Interstellar for any and I do our, you know, on Loop series.

And so that was really thick in my mind about the plot line of saving the Earth, going to space, not maybe not being able to come back.

Time difference, what that, does that look like?

And then, you know, then you have an alien show up.

I, I, I really loved it.

It was very charming.

It was good.

I thought the pacing was great.

I thought the, you know, how they tell the story of, you know, he has the lost memory, but then you have these kind of flashbacks to kind of fill in the pieces of how he got to where he is and some of that journey along the way and kind of fill out the story.

That way I thought was brilliantly done.

And so see, I really liked it.

I, I wanted to read the book, but I was like in my book list is way, way tall and long.

So I was like, I'll just, I'll just see the movie first and I'll read the book maybe later on.

But I've heard, you know, different.

I've heard people say, oh, if you enjoy the movie, you're gonna love the book even better.

Kevin.

So that's what people have said.

So you can send all your angry emails to Kevin Schaeferailmary dot Rocky and he'll answer all your angry emails for that.

But I, I really, I, I adore this movie.

I thought it was really good.

I'll probably go back to it.

It's visually stunning.

I will say there at the end there's a couple things like oh, that kind of likes the typical things of oh, sacrifice.

So that he can come back home.

But then the twist of.

I thought there's a couple ending.

I was like, oh, this is where we're gonna end.

And it doesn't.

It hangs on for another 20 minutes doing other things.

It's like, oh, that's what we're doing.

So that caught me.

It drug.

Drug for me a little bit at the end because I was like, there's a couple fake outs in terms of how the movie is going to end, but I love where it landed at the end.

And I miss.

I have a question for Andy about the book a little bit later on when it comes to life and life and water and non water life, that kind of thing too.

So, yeah, Andy, take it away.

I know you really love the book.

How do you think the movie matches up?

And did you have, you know, this was written for you, as we've said?

Yeah, I mean, you know, I read the book pretty much as soon as it came out.

I, you know, was paying attention to Andy Weir following the Martian.

So I'd read Artemis when it come out and read this when it came out.

This is my favorite easily of his three novels so far.

And so I was very excited, the news that they were going to adapt this.

And so I thought it was coming last year, but, you know, these things go as they must.

And so it was also my most anticipated film of this year.

May.

You know, I still very much liked Wake Up Dead man, but it may very well have been my favorite movie of last year if it had come out last year.

And it is definitely in the running for my favorite movie of this year.

It.

It was just, you know, pretty much exactly what I wanted.

You know, I didn't.

I don't.

I don't read books necessarily.

Like, oh, I'm picturing things a certain way and it has to be this way and it has to be that way.

But it, you know, it captured the feel of the book.

The sort of grounded optimism or realistic optimism of the book that, look, this may not work, but what is the alternative?

Do nothing.

And I think that's a really helpful perspective that, yeah, it's not all gumdrops and rainbows, but that doesn't mean we don't put in the work and find our best shot and give it our best shot.

And yeah, just what Andy Weir does so well is create problems that can be solved.

By doing science or applying science.

And this movie.

And the Martian, maybe the Martian does a little bit more of that.

It gets a little bit more granular on that.

This movie kind of glosses over some of the details in the book.

Book especially, you know, figuring out how to commute, how Dr. Grace, Ryan Gosling's character and Rocky, the.

The alien that he meets can.

Can communicate across, you know, a language and culture barrier unlike anything that any human has ever experienced.

That felt a little rushed.

But you know what?

You know, go with it.

We have.

We have to keep going.

I understand.

Like, this movie has to keep rolling.

Yeah.

So I understand.

Yeah, it definitely has the pace, but yeah, there.

There is more to that in the book.

Book.

There is.

You know, there's more.

Some of the other science as well, and I guess, yeah.

To kind of flesh out the plot just a little bit.

Right.

So we discover that the sun is dimming, and that is a result of these interstellar microbes, that.

Space virus.

There's a space virus?

Andy, is there a danger of a space virus?

Is that real?

Do I need to be worried about this?

Andy?

It's not an asteroid, it's not climate change, but there's the space virus.

Well, they do use the phrase space virus, but they also say that it's a cell.

And viruses are not cellular.

So it is.

It is probably more like a bacteria.

But of course, it has no.

Shares, no common ancestry with anything on Earth as far as the book and the movie lead us to believe.

And so classifying it as anything taxonomically related to Earth is maybe, perhaps a mistake.

So bacteria might also be the wrong word.

We'll say microbes.

I think that's.

That's taxonomically unspecific enough.

Gotcha.

Yeah, definitely.

Definitely cellular life.

Definitely microbe.

Could such a thing exist in space?

I mean, this.

This is one of the reasons why the space program is so.

So particular about what.

What we send up there microbially, because we don't want to contaminate things, and we don't want to contaminate the possibility of discovering microbes elsewhere.

But there, you know, there's reason to think that microbes could survive traveling on meteor, meteors or something like that.

We don't have any evidence that does actually happen, but we know how hardy microbes can be.

We have done science in space to show, you know, that things can survive in space, you know, in different, very strenuous environments.

You know, low, you know, high vacuum, low gravity, high radiation, all these things.

And so, you know, I don't think we need to worry about a, A.

What is it, the Andromeda Strain scenario, the microgright book, or, you know, something like this.

Exactly.

But, yeah, I think, I think there's the possibility for there to be all kinds of wild and woolly things out there that have capabilities that we, that we haven't encountered on Earth or perhaps even haven't even imagined.

But, you know, these particular, you know, the extreme physics of microbes that can travel near light speed and absorb all light and, you know, eat suns, eat stars.

That's pretty extreme.

And so, yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't put that as maybe the most likely scenario of all the extraterrestrial microbe scenarios, but it sure makes for a fun movie, a fun story.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So the sun is dipping because these microbes are eating the sun.

And they discover that there is a star in the nearby neighborhood, relatively speaking, that doesn't seem to be infected with these microbes.

And so Ryan Gosling is sent.

Dr. Grace is sent in a spaceship to figure out what's special about Cow Steady the star and star system that are not infected.

And while he's there, as the trailer gives away, he encounters an alien on a similar mission from another planet who, you know, who's been sent to answer the same question.

And the two of them work together, figure out how to overcome their language barrier and work to figure out a way to save their.

Their respective home planets.

And yeah, they're just.

I mean, they're a charming duo act.

Rocky is entirely puppeted it.

It is probably the cutest creature that has been put to celluloid that does not have a face.

It is very easy to hack into the neural circuits in our brains that make us fall in love with things with big eyes and, you know, baby.

Baby faces.

Right.

And so that has been employed to great effect in any number of stories do to make animals and aliens and other things breed to us as cute babies that we have to fall in love with immediately.

But Rocky has none of that.

Rocky has no eyes, no facial features, nothing for your pareidolia to latch onto.

He is just a rock spider.

And.

Nevertheless is delightfully charming.

And yeah, he may not have a face, but he definitely charms me with giving the thumbs up or thumbs down in the wrong way.

You know, I'm like, oh, that's cute.

So, yeah, he's enduring.

Enduring.

And also, one thing I want to say about is what I really love about the movie and how it translates the book is because.

So the book is written in first person from Grace's perspective.

And so you get a lot of insight into, you know, like is he.

He's still like when he's on the shipper for most of the time he still doesn't have memories of everything that happened when he was on Earth.

He gradually as his memories come back and then, you know, and then he's has the story with Rocky play out.

So you get all of this insight into his character.

You get all the insight into the scientific aspects.

And I thought the movie did a great job with both, you know, adapting that character.

Ryan Gosling bringing a lot to the performance and you know, taking what was there in the book and in the screenplay and really making it it his own.

And the screenplay does a great job where you know, because that's very hard to translate to the screen when you have primarily one human character and you know, you're relying on the book's narration of his inner thoughts and how you translate that to film.

So I thought all of that was expertly handled.

Yeah.

And like the balance of like seriousness, urgency along with kind of charm and humor and kind of light heartedness.

Gosling does a great job with that.

It gives me hope for, you know, Starfighter coming up.

He's going to be, he's in the Star wars universe soon as a Starfighter.

He's the, the lead in a major Star wars movie.

So seeing him in space and his character and how he acted out, I was like, oh cool.

I'm really looking forward to him in Star wars too.

But yeah, Andy going back to the plot there so that when they get to like working together and then you know, you had.

They have to science, you know, like the Martian.

They have to science the crap out of this thing together.

They work it out.

But then there's that element of, of sacrifice too that makes you kind of really feel to what could be done because it's not just language but also like oxygen atmosphere, body suits.

You know, he has to.

I love it that his name is Dr. Grace.

There's Grace involved.

You know, as a good Lutheran pastor, I love grace.

Mary full of grace.

Hail Mary full of grace.

And so that I think that that's intentional but, but you know, he has his own spacesuit spacewalk and what that looks like.

But then so does, so does Rocky has to figure out, you know, what, what, what he can do and can't do and, and solve around that as well.

Yeah.

And you know, I think Weir did a really interesting job of imagining a very different kind of, of culture right that has different strengths and, and weaknesses and a different kind of, you know, different path and trajectory of science development.

And so there are, there are things that we would think of as sort of obvious and requisites to space travel that there.

The Rockies people just aren't.

Aren't aware of at all because of their different sensory experiences and the different environment of their other planet.

And so, yeah, I thought, you know, that was, that was well done.

You know, you don't really get much of that in the, in the film, but there's a lot of that in the book.

Sort of the background of why, why things are the way they are is, is worth kind of checking out.

And yeah, I, you know, I also just, I really appreciate the way that the film gives us a hero character who is not perfect at everything.

He is highly competent in his areas and we get to see him and the people around him employ their competence to great effect and to the benefit of mankind.

And that's always exciting to see.

At the same time, he's not Dr. Gray, super genius.

He doesn't have 12 doctorates.

None of this kind of like, you know, he is also, you know, an action hero and an ace pilot and you know, a surgeon and whatever.

Like he has.

And has three daughters back home.

He has to go save.

Like we've done that already with Intercell.

Like, his attachments on Earth are pretty small, but still the problem looms of what.

What do you do with the rest of human race?

So I'm, I'm.

That choice was made.

Like, yeah, he, he thinks of himself.

He's like, I don't think I could do this.

But then, but then you find out why he's on the ship.

They basically smuggle him and kidnap him and put him on the ship because they believe in him to do it.

Like, that was a little something that I didn't know was coming.

I was like, oh, okay, I see what you did there.

And then to see him care for Rocky and that gives him hope to save and he can.

And they solve that problem together.

But still go to Rocky and maybe he'll come home one day, we don't know.

But he likes what he's doing, teaching.

But that whole element that we just saw in Interstellar with the family attachment and should I or should not go with a family and kind of the trolley problem of Earth and who do I save?

That wasn't necessarily a part of this.

It was a different thing, which I thought was refreshing to me.

I guess because Interstellar were so close.

Just Rewatch that.

And I don't know what you thought about that, that aspect of it.

Yeah.

And, you know, and that, that is faithful to the book.

And, you know, in the ending, you know, while it does make some changes, you know, it.

I wasn't, I didn't feel like it was dragging because I was expecting some amount of what we.

We got there at the end.

Yeah, it is.

You know, he is an interesting character in that his motivations are entirely, you know, extra familial.

Right.

It's not, you know, if I, I'll save the Earth because it saves my.

My kid.

It's just I'm gonna save the Earth because that's where all the people are.

And, you know, I care about the human race in the abstract, you know, and that is something, you know, there, there's the quip and, and I'm forgetting which geneticist or whatever said it, you know, about.

He'd be willing to sacrifice his life for two of his kids or eight of his cousins kind of thing, you know, doing the math of what will.

What will ensure that my, My same genes survive in the same ratios.

And, you know, humans are capable of altruism and compassion and cooperation that goes much beyond that kind of calculus.

Right.

We're not just hardwired to.

To care about our immediate family, but, you know, we have this ability to recognize the entire human race as our extended family.

And, yeah, it was cool to see that dramatized.

It's also great to see examples of an example of things that we have done in the past and could do again in the future, these sort of international collaborations on big science endeavors.

Right.

We have done this before with space, with medicine and engineering projects and technology and so forth.

And like I said, we can do it again, but we just have to want to.

And I, you know, I think, I think there is something, you know, not that we need necessarily a crisis, although we, you know, take your pick of ones we could work on.

But having, having goals to work together as a people is a much better unifying force than a common enemy.

Like, you know, the watchman hypothesis of, oh, you know, the people of Earth can come together as long as they have a space alien to hate.

Well, maybe, you know, the people of Earth could come together because we have a space alien that we want to fall in love with and need to go visit.

Yeah.

And I was also encouraged that I, I.

My movie theater I was in opening night was pretty full, and you kind of feel like the summer blockbuster is, like, coming, here we are.

It's Spring, we're getting close to summer.

These movies and there's a lot of young people, high schoolers in there as well.

That was.

That was kind of fun.

So yeah, it's kind of a role model for like not only just like a cool sci fi PG13 movie, but also you given some hope of.

Of how we can solve the problems and work together as a society.

I hope is.

It's a.

Is a tale and a parable that hopefully we can take to heart in this day and age for sure.

Oh, it's very needed.

That's why, you know, and.

And there is like kind of a darker element of the book as well.

You mentioned about, you know, him kind of like, you know, the government kind of just taking an Morgan's will and throwing him on the ship.

Like they do a little more with that.

And there's like, like another element to that in the book that they left out here.

But it's still.

But nonetheless it's still a very optimistic story in this.

The movie especially I think is that.

Is that you know, especially in this day and age where there is so much cynicism and there is, you know, justifiably a lot of things to be concerned about.

But.

But at the same time we need that dose of optimism to say that oh, there's is still the best of humanity out there.

Absolutely, absolutely.

So yeah, in terms of recomm recommending this, I fully recommend the movie.

Go see it, get your popcorn, bring a friend, bring a family member and, and have fun.

It's.

It's definitely worth it.

I think so.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Awesome.

Well, that.

I think that.

Yeah.

Andy, anything else you want to say about it?

And like I also get very high.

Oh, my final question.

Yeah.

Is life possible without water?

You know, was his theory Right.

I wish they build on that a little bit because Rocky is kind of prov.

His point that you don't necessarily.

Was it carbon based?

Was it.

Did H2O involved with this?

I mean he had his like little simulation on the planet, his dome biodome.

But like, is that something that they play around with in the book a little bit longer?

You know, kind of like, hey, I was right or not.

Yeah, I don't recall that he gets to really explore whether Rocky is.

Is water based or not.

But in, you know, in general, you know, there is I.

There are various theories about, you know, alternative chemistries that don't involve necessarily carbon as being quite so central or phosphorus.

Right.

There are other.

You can basically kind of go down the periodic table and you know, within a given column, you know, most of the, most of the elements that are, are central to life kind of come from the top couple of rows.

And that's because they are the most abundant, because they're the easiest to form.

Right.

All these elements have to be built up by fusing protons or nuclei together from smaller components.

And so you need more energy to do that and you need stars who have been around longer and longer time to do that.

And so there's just a lot more hydrogen and helium and carbon and things in, in the world, in the cosmos than there is, you know, uranium or americanium because of where they are in the, you know, in the sequence of how things, how these things are built and also their, their stability in the lifetime.

I probably shouldn't have chosen radioactive ones as my other examples, but.

Yeah, so you kind of go down the column and the elements below kind of have some of the same properties.

So silicon is under carbon and that's why people say, well, they maybe could have have silicon based life instead of carbon based life.

But the, the, the combination of hydrogen, oxygen that you get in water has additional properties, right, that you can't just extrapolate from hydrogen and oxygen and that you don't necessarily get by combining things from the same columns in the same way.

And so between the, the fact that there's just, there's very little of anything else.

Right.

You know, I, I think, I think that that's what convinced me that the, the abundance argument I think makes me the most skeptical that there is other life in the cosmos that isn't sort of carbon and water based.

Not that, you know, not that theoretically the chemistry is impossible, but more just there's just not enough of those elements around for a long enough time to have done, to have done things.

But you know, that's not to say that, that maybe there isn't some planet out there somewhere where things just happen to concentrate and, you know, the right kind of stuff come together.

But I would, would, I would expect that in, you know, in, in the part of the, the world, the, you know, the cosmos that we're able, going to be able to get to anytime soon.

I think if we are going to find life, it probably will be water, water based.

Well, if they give me a vote of who to send to, to like find that out, Andy, I'll put you on that ship tomorrow if you really want to go.

I won't do it against your will.

I want to get, you have a family.

You have a family.

I'll Ask your family.

You guys have a, a more than three hours to think about it.

But yeah, I, I, I, I trust you.

If you were to go solve it,.

I appreciate that problem.

One thing that I, you know, I would know is to, to balance my centrifuge.

That was, that was my one little science nitpick.

He's got his two little eavendor cubes.

He puts in his centrifuge.

He puts them right next to each other.

Now, it's probably a low, a low speed centrifuge.

It's probably not that big of a deal in that case, but it's just good practice.

Right?

Right.

I've known too many people who have, who've ruined tens of thousands of dollars of not balancing the centrifuge, so.

Duly noted.

Yeah.

Okay.

If you don't take anything away from this podcast, take away this, don't let your centrifuge get too close to each other.

Is that what you just said, Andy?

Yeah.

Don't put the two you want to balance like opposite sides so that when they're, they're balanced dual and noted.

Writing that down right now.

Yep.

And then the one other thing that I want to shout out about the movie is the score by Daniel Pemberton.

He, you know, he has become my favorite film composer who is not named John Williams.

And so, you know, as if this movie wasn't already enough for me, the fact that he was apt to do the score was, was amazing.

You know, there's, it's got some of the kind of Hans Zimmer Organs for Space kind of influence from Interstellar.

There were definitely some cues that had some interstellar influence, just like lots of other, you know, lots of other things about the film had an interstellar influence that, why not?

But there were also definitely some original things as well.

He brings instruments and different kinds of sounds to film scores that you just don't hear many people are using.

So he's just very inventive and creative in that way.

And I thought that was a good fit for a movie that is exploring the limits of, you know, what's possible biologically and technologically.

So, yeah, I'm looking forward, I haven't had the chance yet, but I'm looking forward to digging into that album on its own and thought it worked very well in the theater with the film.

So shout out to him.

Nice.

He's brilliant.

I have the spider verse soundtrack.

Oh, yeah, those are, those are great stuff.

Nice.

Cool.

Thanks.

That was fun.

Oh, this is a blast.

And I love too, we Got Andy Walsh like that, like a science class here, right here on Systematic ecology.

I was just fascinating for me to learn about, but I will still again take credit.

I'm the only one here who's read Dune.

I was not expecting that.

That's right.

There you go.

We learned that too today.

Tonight.

We sure did.

Awesome.

Well, I think, guys, we can all collectively recommend Project El Mary.

We'll do that as a recommendation for tonight.

Absolutely.

Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely.

Oh, man.

Yeah.

Our.

We had a comment from.

From Evan, two thumbs down.

And I was like, what is he thumb downing for us for?

And I was like, oh, now I know.

Now I know.

I get it.

I remember.

Yeah, thanks.

Thanks, Evan, for doing two rocky thumbs up for us.

Yeah, thanks, buddy.

I love it.

Awesome.

Well, guys, this was an absolute blast.

Always love geeking out with y' all and, and just, you know, covering all the latest stuff in geek news.

So.

Yes, you know, go see Project Del Mary.

Let us know what you thought of these trailers.

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You do that instead of our usual sign off.

Remember, always bound centrifuges.

And also with you.

Sa.