Christian Ashley and TJ Blackwell engage in a thorough examination of the film "Flubber," a cinematic endeavor featuring Robin Williams, which currently holds a rating of 24% on Rotten Tomatoes. They explore the peculiarities surrounding the film's reception, particularly considering its whimsical narrative and the comedic talents of its leading actor. Throughout their discussion, they reflect on the film's thematic elements, including the protagonist's struggles with personal relationships and the innovative yet nonsensical science that drives the plot. Both hosts acknowledge the film's shortcomings, particularly in terms of special effects and pacing, yet they also emphasize its inherent charm and entertainment value. Ultimately, they invite listeners to reconsider the classification of "Flubber" as a "rotten film," highlighting the importance of finding merit even in works deemed flawed.

The discourse navigates the complexities surrounding the film 'Flubber,' a remake of the classic 'Absent-Minded Professor.' It is imperative to recognize that while the film has garnered a critique from audiences and critics, with scores languishing around 24% and 33% respectively, there exists a divergence between critical reception and viewer enjoyment. Our conversation unfolds as we reminisce about the film's premise, where Robin Williams portrays a brilliant but forgetful scientist, Brainerd, whose creation of Flubber—a pliable, buoyant substance—serves as both a comedic device and a narrative catalyst. The film’s exploration of themes such as innovation versus incompetence, personal relationships, and the ramifications of scientific exploration provides an intriguing backdrop to our discussion. Moreover, we examine the film's nostalgic charm and its capacity to engage younger audiences, despite its apparent shortcomings in special effects and pacing. Ultimately, the conversation reveals that while 'Flubber' may not ascend to the pantheon of cinematic masterpieces, it offers a light-hearted viewing experience that remains enjoyable for a family audience.

Takeaways:

• The film 'Flubber' serves as an example of a light-hearted comedy that, despite its flaws and a low Rotten Tomatoes score, provides entertainment value through the performance of Robin Williams.
• In discussing 'Flubber', we acknowledge the film's failure to meet certain expectations, particularly in terms of its special effects and pacing, which may contribute to its negative reception.
• The narrative of 'Flubber' primarily revolves around the character of Professor Brainard and his personal conflicts, rather than focusing exclusively on the titular substance itself, which may have confused audiences.
• We explore the film's attempts at humor and charm, noting that while it may not be considered a classic, it still holds a nostalgic appeal for those who enjoyed it during their childhood.
• The episode draws attention to the juxtaposition of the film's whimsical elements with deeper themes of love and commitment, as demonstrated through the character's repeated absences at his wedding.
• Ultimately, 'Flubber' is regarded as a fun and engaging experience, albeit not without its shortcomings, inviting viewers to find enjoyment in its silliness and charm.

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Foreign can a professor be before he's just incompetent as a man?

Welcome everyone to the next episode of Systematic Ecology.

We are the priests of the geeks.

Continuing on through our drive in series, drive thru series as we're discussing some rotten films.

Those films that either on the audience side or critic side or maybe both, are less than 30% rated.

Today we're going to be discussing Flubber, the remake of the Absent Minded professor and the Son of Flubber from, from the 60s, by the way, Fun fact, the first Disney film to ever get a sequel ever, as I understand it.

So.

Yeah, but it's not just me, Christian Ashley.

Today I'm joined of course by the man who actually invented Flubber, the man who didn't get quite the financial compensation he should have for this movie, TJ Blackwell.

How's it going, tj?

It's going great.

Really good.

Oh yeah.

Oh yeah, Glad to hear that.

See, you were.

What is this, 96, 97 when this film releases there?

Yeah, I was negative two.

So, you know, negative two years old TJ and six, seven year old Christian are leaving a drive in right now.

Like, how you feeling?

What's your first reaction to this film?

Honestly, I think it had been so long since I saw Flubber that I pretty much got to watch it for, for the first time again.

All right.

Like, you know, because I've, I think I've seen it before growing up once or twice.

Yeah.

But I honestly, I think it's really good.

Like it's not the best movie ever.

It didn't hold up the best special effects wise, but it was fun.

It was really fun.

And I think Robin Williams brings a lot to the role.

Yeah, it's a very Robin Williams film.

He gets to be himself.

It's nice to see that on screen.

I mean, he just brings that certain chutzpah that he has to every role.

Yeah, it's not the best of the best by any stretch of the imagination.

I can see why other people would have issues with it.

But like my first reaction to be like, man, this is pretty cool.

I had fun.

Wasn't the most deeply thinking film I've ever watched in my life.

But you know what, that's fine.

Sometimes you just got to watch a movie and have fun.

And this is a fun movie.

Yeah, it's a fun movie.

That's what it's supposed to be.

And I think it accomplishes that pretty well.

Okay, so would you like to explain a little bit like what this movie is?

And I'll piggyback off of you.

So basically, we've got our main character, Brainerd.

Yep.

Really on the nose.

Yeah, really on the nose.

And his first name starts with a P, doesn't it?

Or is that just his email address?

He's P Brained.

P. Brainerd.

I remember calling him Brainerd.

Yeah, I'm sure he has an actual.

Name because it's Phillip.

Phillip.

Yeah, he's P. Brainerd.

Just get that out of the way.

That's pretty funny.

But it's Robin Williams.

And he is this brilliant genius scientist working at this college that is being shut down.

And his goal is to invent something that will make the college so much money that they don't have to shut down.

Over the course of the movie, we find out that they're only gonna shut down because they can't pay back a loan that they took out from a businessman who is trying to pay his son's way through school.

So that's our main antagonist.

And Robin Williams, while trying to save the school, also is trying to not lose his fiance, who he has stood up at the altar twice when the movie starts and a third time as the movie starts.

Yeah, so that's kind of his personal conflict.

And the night of the wedding, he invents flubber, which is flying rubber.

And I actually did not know this was a remake of Absentminded Professor.

I've never seen the Absent Minded Professor.

Did not know it existed.

Didn't know the son of Flubber existed.

That was a little bit before my time.

And so was this.

Absent Minded professor is pretty good Son of flubber.

They heighten up.

They flanderize some people, let's say.

Mm.

Shocking.

So Disney sequels have just always been that way.

Cool.

So basically, we go through some shenanigans about flying rubber and how Brainerd decides to use flying rubber.

And we get to know his little house full of robots that he's invented because he is a genius inventor.

At the time this came out, he really.

There is no reason for him not to be the richest man alive.

Right.

He says, like, he made a sapien AI.

Yeah, he made an artificial intelligence that is fully sapient.

And he also made a Rube Goldberg machine.

Esque.

Like, it is definitely robot fueled, but it also is kind of Rube Goldberg esque.

Breakfast.

Just does it.

Automatically makes his breakfast.

No issues.

Except Weber, his other named robot in the movie, puts the plate at the wrong spot.

That's it.

And I'd say that's a pretty.

Pretty substantial success.

99% efficiency.

Yeah, so we get to that.

He falls out with Sarah, his fiance, and then his nemesis, the other, you know, less smart but more profit minded scientist.

But it's Wilson.

And he also has eyes for Philip, Brainard's fiance, because nothing he can, nothing he does is original.

They have a long history of him stealing ideas from Brainerd and profiting off of them.

So shenanigans ensue.

Suffice to say, he uses Flubber to power a flying car.

Flubber is basically the perfect substance.

It is infinite energy.

Cool stuff.

Cool stuff.

They use it to play basketball, which was cool.

It was like space jam almost.

It felt almost like space jam to me.

Because a good chunk of the movie, like 30, 35 minutes of this hour and 15 minute movie is about a basketball game.

So I do understand some of the criticisms that befall the film because it can feel a little waylaid at times.

And Flubber is not in that much for a movie called Flubber.

No, and it's not.

It's there in the original film too, but it's not the main focus either.

Yeah, it's more like it starts to plot kind of like this does in many respects.

Yeah.

So that took me by surprise because what I remembered of the movie was mostly flubber.

Oh, yeah.

I do remember seeing the trailers as a kid and it feels like, oh, that's all the movie was about, was them just having, you know, flubber parties and stuff like that.

Yeah.

But no, it's very, very small in the film.

Yeah, it's.

It's small.

Like, you know, he'll have his moments.

There's a big music number for Flubber.

His introductory scene is all about flubber and he is the driving point.

But the movie's really not about Flubber.

It's about Reinert, the absent minded professor, apparently.

And they got.

Yeah, yeah, shenanigans there with the guy who.

The businessman who wants to take over everything.

And flubber shenanigans happen.

They're able to finally topple him and save the college and get married together.

Even though he doesn't show up in person.

It's on a view screen and we'll talk about that later on.

So happy ending, question mark?

Yeah, yeah, it's happy.

It's a happy ending.

So they fly off into the sunset on their way to Hawaii in his flying car with their robot and quasi plasmoid child.

So.

So, tj, how were you introduced to this film?

You know, given that you were about negative 2ish when it was made?

It was Definitely just one of those.

Like, you're at daycare.

Here's a Disney movie.

Yeah, fair.

Like it's existed longer than I have.

Simple.

Yeah, I saw it at some point because someone wanted to watch it.

All right.

I'm fairly certain I saw this in theaters.

And if not, it was on vhs because Disney was huge in the days, you know, as soon as it was done in the theater, vhs, unless they were throwing it up in the vault, you were gonna, you know, have it as soon as possible.

So we definitely rewatched it a lot of times at home.

I couldn't tell you how many times.

And I'm not thinking about any of the even.

There is some higher stuff in here.

I'm not thinking about that.

But it was fun.

It is what it is.

Like, kids, of course, are going to love Flubber because it's gooey and bouncy and animated.

So, yeah, the CGI hasn't aged extremely well.

But you know what?

For its time, it's fine.

Yeah, I think especially, you know, it's 97.

There aren't a lot of super impressive computer generated images before 97.

Unfortunately, the ones that are there are really, really good.

And this does not hold up as well as, you know, Jurassic Park.

Yes, obviously.

So I do think it really did age pretty well.

There are some clunky moments where, you know, it's clear that they're acting around nothing, which is, you know, not a skill that actors were taken to yet at the time.

Yes, Robin Williams does his best, but you can still tell, like, it's kind of like he.

He was just told, make some funny motions and we'll put the flubber in around you.

And that happens a couple of times.

The only effect that I think really doesn't hold up at all is the second half in the basketball game when they put flubber.

Only when they switch the ball to a CGI basketball.

It looks awful.

It really looks terrible.

Especially when it's like continuously dribbling.

Yeah.

It's like, oh, man.

Yeah, it looks horrendous.

Everything else I do think holds pretty.

Well, especially, yes, Weebo, the effects they do for her, the little mobile robot that he has.

Extremely well done.

Yeah.

Like super well.

Yeah.

Especially since Weebo is not motionless.

Weebo is going around almost as if she's propelling herself in the air around.

So whatever string work or effects they did for that.

Pretty good.

Yeah, really good.

So like this on Rotten Tomatoes right now is currently standing at a 24% on critics and I think 33% audience, she's like, why do you think it is the way it is?

Why do you think it's so low?

If you're not looking for a fun movie to watch, that definitely will score low for you.

I understand that.

And if.

Robin Williams.

Like, this is the funniest man on the planet.

So, you know, it's not quite there.

It's not quite Robin Williams level up.

You know, thinking about doing this episode, I was like, yo.

You know, it's probably Disney's third best sci fi movie and second or third best Robin Williams movie.

So fair.

A lot of it will come from that.

And I do think, like me, a lot of people, when it came out, expected to be more about the flubber.

And it really does focus on Brainerd relationship.

That's the driving goal.

And there are, like we said, flubber shenanigans and experiments, and you get the evil businessman subplot, but it's mostly about Brainerd.

So that's probably something that didn't really sit well.

There are some pacing issues, especially, like, I almost skipped the flubber dance sequence, if I'm being honest, because it just comes at a really awkward time.

It's kind of the definition of a big lipped alligator moment.

The.

The blam moment, as it's become that no be known on TV tropes.

It just.

It shows about a nowhere.

It doesn't really bring a lot of substance to the film, but it looks cool.

Yeah, it's just there for show.

And like, we had already experienced, like, this side of flubber.

There's just like a three or four minute dance sequence with flubber, like big band dance sequence.

And it's like, it's funny, it's fun to watch, but, like, not necessary.

So I could understand why it would get lower reviews than I think it deserves, but I absolutely do not understand how it got a 24%.

Yeah, that.

That does boggle the mind.

Like, I could get some of these.

Reviewers may have been old enough to have seen the original film maybe as kids, and maybe that kind of tank tainted their experience, which I get, you know, generationally.

Just things change and someone wants to focus on a different aspect.

And sometimes they do it well, sometimes they don't.

I think this is an okay take from the 90s.

Like, in the original film.

Like, there's a more of a subplot of, like, him, like, contacting the military for potential applications there.

And, like, built in that very 60s way of.

We could also use it for peace, as he's also doing all these other stuff.

It's interesting that way.

So maybe they didn't want to focus on it here.

Like, I think it may just be, you know, sometimes you're just a crotchety old man and you're not meant to watch a kids film.

And you know what?

Sometimes that's me.

And I may not like it, but a kid can look at and say, man, this is amazing.

And that's fine.

They're not right.

I'm not right.

It's subjective.

Yeah.

And like, I like, again, I do understand why people would rate it kind of low.

It does get a bit strange towards the end.

And then, like, Weebo's whole thing.

I assume Weibo was not in the original.

No, he had a dog.

Got a dog.

Okay.

He had a dog, not a robot that was in love with him.

So we haven't mentioned it yet, but if you don't remember, Clubber, you probably forgot his robot assistant.

Weebo is madly in love with him.

He is the reason that he missed.

And I think it's implied that she's also the reason he missed the first two weddings, likely.

But he's the.

She's directly the reason that Brainard misses his third chance to marry Sarah.

And you know what?

Kudos to her for keep on trying.

Like, she really understands her partner.

She's like, he misses a wedding, and she's like, oh, that's just Philip, you know?

And then he does it again.

He's like, oh, well, that one's really on me for trying again.

And then the third time trying a third time.

But Weebo madly in love with Professor Brainard.

And that.

I thought they were just kind of gonna drop it, as, you know, she's the reason he missed the wedding.

They didn't.

That continues.

And then Weebo, like, dies actually trying to save Flubber from getting kidnapped.

Are we considering Flubber a real character or.

I mean, it seems sapient.

It's semi sapient, quasi plasmoid.

But Weebo dies trying to save Flubber from being taken.

And it's like this big, dramatic thing.

After she had reconciled her feelings and gotten over the fact that she can't marry Brainerd and she wants him to be happy, so she wants to get him married to Saren, she goes, like, on her redemption mission and, like, Goes to Sarah's house.

And I really didn't understand it because, like, Sarah absolutely knew just everything that Brainard said.

But Weebo just recorded him saying how much he loved Sara and showed that to her.

And Sarah's like, oh, you know what?

I'll give him another chance.

Which, sure, okay, whatever.

Sarah feels a little light, but okay.

So that was weird.

And then the end of the movie, she reveals, you know, she likes.

Well, in the middle of the movie, she makes, like, a human version of herself to, like, try and convince Brainerd that they could be together.

Because, look, this is what I would look like as a person.

Strange, a bit odd.

So that's fair enough.

If they took points off for that.

Fair enough.

It was weird.

It was like, it's kind of cute because, you know, she's just a robot, but she's fully sentient.

Like, she knows exactly what she's doing.

And then in her death video, you know, if you're seeing this means I'm gone.

But I downloaded a profile of myself onto this computer.

And also, I changed some things, and I fixed my flaws, and I added a little bit of you.

So I treat my daughter well.

So they, like, they kind of have a child together, right?

Against professor, bring your twill.

I mean, is this the beginning of Skynet?

I mean, you bring up some good points.

Like, do you think it's trying to say anything about AI at all?

Is this just like, hey, we'll just throw it into the movie and see what sticks.

Yeah.

I highly doubt they were trying to say anything about AI Here.

Anything at all.

It seems almost impossible.

I agree.

I don't think they were thinking of the implications.

I just think, oh, man.

Wouldn't it be cool if this happened?

Or wouldn't it be sweet if she said this?

Say, hold on.

No one's thinking about what would happen afterward.

But you know what?

Whatever.

It's in the film.

It's still a fun film.

And then, you know, like, he.

He does.

He builds the robot.

He builds Weebo's daughter.

And him and Sarah just treated as one, as their children.

Child.

Like, yeah, that's their daughter now, and Flubber is their son.

Hey, it's a weird family, but it works.

So, like, other than that, the positive things, we can get out of this film real quick.

Yeah, I do think it's really funny.

I think even if you want to say this is Robin Williams worst movie, which could be.

It's still pretty funny.

Like, it's a good time, I wouldn't say it's a roaring good time, but it's a good time.

It's enjoyable.

Like, it's fun to watch.

I'll probably end up watching it again, you know, within the next couple of years.

I'll come back to Flubber because it is fun to watch.

You know, not as fun as other Robin Williams movies, but he's still Robin Williams and he's still phenomenal.

The acting here is really good.

They play it so straight all the time.

And I think that's hilarious too.

And then everyone else also does do a good job.

Like there's not really bad actors in the movie except for the bad guys, because, you know, they're bad actors.

Lancey Brown, super funny.

Like the slapstick.

It lands.

It's good.

I will probably just be skipping the flubber dancing.

I see.

I can't abide that.

I know why.

But like, it, it just, there's some nostalgia there.

It's like, oh man, this is what the film's about, right?

It's like it's not, but it's cool.

It feels like I'm there for it.

You know what it does?

It's an inoffensive film.

It's got some charm to it.

Is it his best?

Absolutely not.

Is it Disney's best also?

Absolutely not.

But yeah, I agree.

Like a couple of years down the road, like it's probably been 15, 20 years since I last saw this film.

I'd watch it again later down the road.

Yeah, I'd show this to my kids if ever have them.

Oh yeah, absolutely.

Because it's like it really is there.

It's good enough to watch.

It's funny enough for me to say.

I don't think it deserves a 24% or a 30.

What was the other one?

33.

33, yeah.

That's crazy.

At least a 50.

Like this is not a bad movie period.

I guess they just weren't ready for it.

It was just, you know, before.

Before their time, like moving on from there, you know.

Part of the film, as you mentioned, is that there is a basketball game.

This also occurs in the Absent Minded professor with different effects, you know, given that the 37 years removed where he implants a bit of the flubber onto the soles of their shoes during the basketball game.

And they start bouncing around over their opponents, catching balls they shouldn't be able to.

Dunking balls they shouldn't be able to.

Like, is it cheating to use flubber in a basketball game?

There ain't no rule.

It's said in both films, it ain't no rule.

Absolutely.

It is cheating.

And I know it would go.

It would get past as cheating these days.

Not just because these days, the concept of something like that is a lot more likely.

For example.

Oh, my gosh.

What is it?

Nike makes running shoes.

And I cannot remember the type, the name of the shoe, but in most official marathons and track events, you can't wear them because they are so beneficial to running that it's literally unfair.

And it's just a shoe.

I'll look it up.

I try to remember what shoe it is, but that's a thing that exists.

And, you know, most basketball shoes are made the same way generally.

You know, there are little differences for play styles, but this is, for sure, performance enhancing something Also something.

Because it would not get passed at all.

There is, like, pretty.

They keep it pretty regulation these days.

You know, if you.

It's happened before.

People, like, run through their shoe.

Like, their shoes split open on the court.

Their shoes get replaced.

They can't play with a split shoe because it's, you know, not safe.

Yeah.

Actual physics involved.

Like, some people are breaking their legs as this goes on.

Oh, my goodness.

All of them actually goes through a basket.

Yeah, that's possible, though.

That's.

It's not very, very tiny.

Sure, you can do it.

But, yeah, our feet aren't meant to take the shock absorption from all this.

The shoes aren't designed for that.

My knees would shut right off.

Yeah, it would definitely be if they found a way to do it and you wouldn't take all the, you know, effects of it.

Yeah, absolutely.

They'd ban it or they'd find a way to make it where both teams could have it.

Yeah.

It's out of the question.

This is definitely cheating.

Even if there ain't no rule that says a dog can play basketball or, you know, you put flubber on your feet.

Yeah.

No way.

Yeah.

Nike vapor flies.

Vapor flies Prototype vapor flies that were so advanced they just get banned outright.

Have, like, carbon fiber plates in the midsole.

And it's crazy.

It's crazy.

But, yeah, we're gonna ignore the scientific inconsistencies for the sake of it being a funny science fiction movie.

But, yeah, when he's testing how well it would work on a basketball court, he puts Flubber on his own shoes and jumps and touches the scoreboard.

Yes.

He touches the Jumbotron and he lands and he's fine.

Which you could say is because of the flubber.

But the flubber's not on your knees, you know.

No, my Knees would shoot out of my legs.

Probably kill somebody.

All right, last question.

Would you take Dr. Brainard back to Mary after all he's done?

Say you're.

I think her name is Sarah.

Not one, not two, three times at the altar.

Yeah, there's absent mindedness and I'm a very absent minded person, but I'm not missing the first wedding day.

So what do you think?

Would you take him back?

Yeah, I think so.

Because in this situation, I love him enough to take him back the second time.

So really it's just, it's just trying to get it down until he's there.

I suppose, using the world of the film and that the two times.

Is that before.

And she came back a third.

Yeah.

Like, is it really a big deal to give him a fourth?

The fourth try?

I mean, at this point, I guess for her.

No, for me, that ain't happening.

Like, clearly I'm not a priority in your life.

You can't even show up.

And, you know, it's not even my day.

It's more the bride's day anyways.

And if she didn't show up, say, okay, well, clearly you don't like me, so I'm not going to deal with that.

I mean, that's fair.

I can't, I cannot disparage you for that.

But, you know, I mean, he made flying cars, which I know we said.

I said the thing about scientific inconsistencies.

Whatever.

I think it's hilarious that the way he made a flying car is with a nuclear fission engine.

Yes, that's hilarious because, like, it's, it's really not the flubber doing the work.

Like, it's only working because he's using flubber.

But all he really did was make a nuclear fission engine.

This man should be a multi billionaire with a company with all that he's done.

Yeah, I'm pretty good.

I'm pretty good at letting movies do what they want to do for fun.

But that, that blew my mind.

I was like, huh.

All right.

So out of 10, TJ, what are you feeling?

What would you rank this film out of 10?

I think what it deserves is a six and a half.

Okay.

Yeah, I'm pretty comfortably there at six and a half.

I was going to throw seven, five.

You know, it's not the most amazing thing in the world, but it's fun, it's engaging.

Like you're going to enjoy what you're doing.

It's not going to be like, I have to rewatch this film immediately to get all.

Everything that happened in it, But it's fine.

It's 6, 5, 7, 5.

Whatever you say.

Or would you say 6, 6, 5.

Oh, we can meet it.

Honestly, I'll go seven.

Okay with the seven.

That's fine.

I think this is a fine, you know, seven film overall.

So I guess not middling.

It's just there's enough there to make you come back later on.

Yep.

It's worth watching.

And I feel like the threshold for me for is it worth watching?

Is probably five.

Fair enough.

All right.

So, tj, I'm sure you've had to answer this question many times already since you've been called into audible multiple times over, including this episode.

But what treat or snack will we not think of for a drive in theater that might actually be perfect?

So perfect is a strong word, right?

But with the capacity, the ability, I think fondue, okay, would be amazing.

And if, you know, you can't get a big fondue pot in the back of your car and, you know, pull in backwards for your spot at the drive in and use it, you know, we have modern technology.

Like, it's possible now.

It really is.

But if you can't, I think Raclette would be really phenomenal.

Drive in treat.

If you're not familiar, it's like a fondue ish kind of thing.

A hot knife, scrape the cheese, put it on something ooey gooey goodness.

And with not quite as much of a mess as a fondue.

Well, I resent this question because it's making me think about things I'm not supposed to have anymore, you know, with the diabetes diagnosis and all that.

But you know what?

Screw it.

We're already here.

I don't know.

Have funnel cakes ever been at a drive in theater?

Oh, for sure have to be.

Have.

You know, I used to do it all the time back in the day.

I don't remember there being one.

I live pretty close to one of the only drive ins left in our state or my state.

But I'm gonna go, I'm gonna see, because I feel like to me, a drive in feels almost like a fair you got there.

Surely some drive ins sell funnel cakes.

I mean, if they don't, they're losing out because, I mean, that's sugar overload, and that's what I can't have anymore.

But that's why I would really want.

Yeah, like a nice light funnel cake would be great for a drive in.

There you go.

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